/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14177125
Because the food on the left comes out of a series of Sysco Boxes/Bags/Jars

>day old rice, leftover veggies and 6 shrimp made by some fob asian and slapped into a styrofoam box
vs
>fresh fish and veg, prepared by trained professionals with wine pairing and a nice atmosphere and service
gee I wonder why

Really makes ya think, huh?

>>14177138
food is food
the rest is just bullshit

>>14177125
It's worth the price to not be seated next to the fat bastard who ordered the slop on the left.

>>14177125
The right is less pixelated than the left.

>>14177125
The right is maybe a $30 plate, and that's in a nice sit-down restaurant. Where do you people even find this shit?

>>14177138
>fresh
kek you wish, but that's honestly all it takes for plebians, the lie that it's "fresh" enters your mind and you believe it.

gutter oil vs truffle oil

>>14177138
You can't, and honestly anyone else either, possibly actually care about atmosphere right? You couldn't possibly.

>>14177252
t. virgin

>>14177252
Is this supposed to be a joke or are you literally homeless?

>>14177198
Bad food isn't good food tho

>>14177138
Subway offers subs made with fresh meat, vegetables, and bread, prepared by sandwich artists, paired with a delicious Coca Cola and served in a nice, rustic atmosphere. You get all of this for $7. Expensive restaurants are a scam.

>$12
>no tip
You’re scum.

>uploaded by some sheboon on twitter
You really need to stop coming here to post shit. It's worse than reddit fags coming here for something to post there

>>14177433
>It's worse than reddit fags coming here for something to post there
You got it backwards. It's usually /ck/ that steals content from reddit.

>>14177198
Never has there been a post as dumb as this one. I am in awe

>>14177125
I have seen some absolutely retarded high prices from those Facebook cooks selling gumbo or wherever.

>>14177326
Subway is REAL American cuisine.
All the Haute Cuisine places are just copies of what Europe has.

Judaism

>>14177129
also 2nd portion is designed to go with multiple courses while lthe left one is designed for hungry worker that had to skip a meal.

>>14177125
Part of it is quality, the vast majority is prestige.

>>14177692
But American restaurants use finest californian champagne and wisconsin cheese that outclass the stupid European ones easily.

>>14177138
((((Atmosphere))))

the right had to pay professional chef and Michelin four star rent

$12 food
>all servings piled onto each other
>cooks are usually not certified chefs and are instead high schoolers with 3 days of training
>ingredients are low quality
>additional sides unintentionally mixed in to each other before served
>serving tray cleanliness is a variable
>same unwashed serving utensils used for every food item
>food potentially unevenly cooked
>high chances of diarrhea or nausea
>god knows what else in the kitchen that could come in contact with the food
$200 food
>prepared by certified chefs with pages of work experience
>served in legitimate establishment and not converted crack den
>highest quality ingredients
>everything prepared when ordered and not idling in a giant tray
>counter tops, utensils and stoves are sanitized after each use
>chefs cook it perfectly
>perfect bowl movement
hmm

>>14177252
when he says "nice" atmosphere he means its not the kind of place that autistic broke losers go to

>>14178083
>Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
officially tl;dr

>>14177125
its so rich people can feel sophisticated

>>14177326
Enjoy your 50% soy “chicken” lmao

>itt: heads up their ass wannabe upper crust fags get triggered at simple eats
Anyone with half a brain knows that both options are objectively inferior to that one mom and pop owned hole in the wall joint. You know the one, the one that's nearly fucking impossible to find the first time despite you passing it a billion times and smelling something delicious each one until you finally seek it out. The one ran by that little old couple that are nice and polite but will crack the whip on their workers in a heartbeat because they know how shit should be done and it shows when you take the first bite. Give me that shit over either the slapdash carryout or the hoity toity bullshit. Gentlemen, tell me about the place that was that spot for you. For me it was this little joint in Richmond that's been kicking around since my mother was a child. Used to hit it every time I went to visit my great grandmother before she passed. Still wanna hit it just one more time even if she's not around to enjoy it with anymore.

>>14178083
>certified chefs
there is no such thing
>low quality ingredients
also, there is no such thing, they all get their supplies from the same places
>cleanliness
you think the difference in cleanliness exists? you're gullible

>>14177198
What a moron.

both of those meals are $12 what a bullshit image

>>14178344
>also, there is no such thing, they all get their supplies from the same places
Incorrect, damn you're retarded if you don't think there can be different quality in ingredients.

>>14178344
Your only correct opinion was the first

>>14178344
do you guys not train to be a chef, getting certified by an education board?
or do you just open a kitchen and hope for the best?

>>14177125
The poor eat to fill, the rich eat for the experience.

That means flavors, presentation, atmosphere, and rarity of ingredients.

There's nothing wrong with cheap filling food, but if you can afford 200 dollar a plate food, you are likely not worrying about filling your stomach or eat enough calories to do labor jobs.

>>14177138
>nice atmosphere
What's nice about it?

I get upset paying $30 for a meal, without drinks.
I cannot understand how anyone can pay $200 for a plate that looks like a jackson pollock painting

>>14177252
I definitely care about atmosphere. I can't stand when you have to shout over the music to talk to other people at your table, listen to someone's kid having a meltdown, look at flies buzzing around, or deal with a shitty rocking table. Going to a dine-in restaurant is primarily a social experience when you're in a group. If all I wanted was good food, I can make it myself for half the price. Anything that detracts from me having a good time with my party in a restaurant sucks ass, so of course atmosphere matters.

>>14179601
>I can make it myself for half the price.
it would take you $100 to make that little pile of fish and vegetalbes wtf
is that like $10 for the food and $90 for the bad dragon dildo to stuff up your ass you cumguzzling faggot

>>14177138
if you didnt live in your mums damp basement youd have a nice atmosphere at home too dickhead

>>14177125
If that's Patagonian toothfish I can understand.

>>14179629
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>>14178344
Culinary Institute of America? Canada has Cook and Chef as a certified tradesman course through colleges. There's levels to being a chef.

>>14179681
>Patagonian toothfish
YUCK! I prefer prefer Chilean Seabass

>>14177138
Bruh even Michelin star Asian restaurants use day old rice in their fried rice dishes. Its actually better for frying.

>>14179629
different species of fish have different prices.
like the fish i get nightly from my hot wive vs whatever gross tang you have, you slob

>>14178243
>i like it because others don't have it :)
Congratulations on falling for the most unapologetic marketing ploy of the modern age.

>>14179818
which ones? is there like one of those high quality high class restaurant YouTube videos where they say it?

>>14179473
Ikr, that's like my rent payment and just for a single plate. I can buy like 240 cans of deens for that amount.

Good bless rich people spending money on these things though. Keeps many people employed.

>>14177138
You fags are insufferable. “Atmosphere” okay so some faggy decor and pretentious customers sitting around in a mental circle jerk droning on and on about the local grass fed fair trade piece of meat is an atmosphere. It is people like you who ruin food. People like you who make something simple and enjoyable and suck the life out of it with your pretentious bullshit. I am tilted and if there’s one thing I hate is fags like you who think there is any justification in spending a large sum of money on some fish that some hipster cuck prepared thinking it’s anything more than a piece of fucking fish with some sort of sauce. Die. And no, I am not a poor fag who can’t afford it. I’m just not a faggot who feels the need to go out of my way to be a faggot.

>>14177138
>atmosphere
Nigger, how dumb are you

>>14178083
>>14177138
If my hunger is not sated then the meal is shit.

you can get quality food for cheap, people saying left is slop leftover is just presumptuous. fine dining, at a certain degree, is a scam.

>>14177138
>fresh
ive seen enough of Ramsay's television programs to know this isn't so

>>14177138
I don't give a flying fuck about atmosphere

>>14177138
>nice atmosphere
No thanks.

>>14177125
Ahh fuck they took down that one clip from Penn and Teller Bullshit where they serve kfc to people telling them its gourmet 5 star cuisine and they believed it, this kinda works too I guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_IoNQHMFLk

>>14180783
Tbh organic cucumber taste better then non-organic. The rest i really can't tell much difference

>>14177326
>>14178291
No one eats the Subway chicken, dude. The cold cuts and tuna are fine.

>>14177125
I think there are probably a lot of restaurants out there that get away with overcharging because of status and location, but a truly exceptional meal is very easily identified. The top tier ingredients and the care with which they are prepared can be incredible.

There is also diminishing returns, is a meal at a well know high end establishment really 50X better than a good shrimp fried rice? In my opinion, almost certainly not. Otherwise I would be scrimping and saving to be able to hit up Alinea a couple times a month.

But it is cool to have an experience once every couple of years at a truly high end restaurant. The service is insane, the wine pairings are insane, they do things I could never do in my home kitchen, the atmosphere that is created to put you at ease, and ingredients and dishes I have never been exposed to all make it worth while.

>>14177125
They are both food.
But the 200 euro is an experience, you start around 6-7 o clock have a supper, have some soup, something in between, main course, and desert.
And bam it's almost 10 already.
Those "fancy" dishes are usually very rich in fat which is why it fills hard eventhough it's so little.

But food is food and I can also plate a little so I can also make such fancy food at home.
Only thing I miss are little specific details like baby cilantro, but none of my friends except me care so I think it's just a love for details.

>>14177125
actually the one on the right is 12E and the one on the left 2 or 3

>>14178083
>prepared by certified chefs with pages of work experience
Why would I care? If the food tastes good I don't give a shit if it was made by a high schooler making it for the first time or some old fuck with 50 years of experience. Literally boomer way of thinking that only specially trained people with experience can do things well.

>ameriots thinking the stuff on the right is high grade stuff
i eat that daily at uni and it's super cheap

More food = more good
Therefore the left is best.

>>14177125
Fine fining is more about experiencing the flavors crafted by the chef than it is about getting full.

>>14177125
>$200
That does not cost $200 though, but the answer is about produce of course and cost of ingredients.

The left seems to consist of mostly rice and vegetables, which are cheap ingredients, with long shelf lives that can be easily bought in bulk, stored or frozen for ages. Although there is shrimp there, there are not many, and shrimps can be extremely cheap, since there's lots of varieties and varying qualities, and you can bet these are cheap, low grade farmed shrimp, that come frozen and prepackaged in bulk bags. All the ingridents used for cooking are cheap as well, basic oil, salt, msg, cheap bulk condiments like soy sauce, flour, water. They definitely don't use any fresh spices or herbs. And it's all cooked extremely fast. Guarantee it's lowest quality battery eggs used for the rice as well.

The right however is no doubt chilean sea bass, an expensive fish and the major factor in the price. It's also a generous portion, and you can guarantee that all the ingredients used are fresh and of the highest quality. Using heirloom tomatoes, fresh herbs, olive oil, butter, even the salt will no doubt be an expensive premium variety.

>>14181146
Nothing of that matters but the flavor being acceptable, and the gains in flavor of the right over the left are much, much smaller than the increase in price tag.
In a ratio of quality to price, left wins, and on top there is more food, and more food is always good.

>>14177125
Where can I buy the food on the left?

>>14181181
What are you even on about? Taste is subjective. To you a chilean sea bass might not be worth it for a variety of reasons, you might not like the taste, you might not appreciate it, you might have a low income and deem it too expensive. These are all your personal opinions though, and not everyone will agree with you. Some people might absolutely adore sea bass, and/or hate Chinese food. They might be wealthy and consider $30-40 to be a meaningless amount of money, or maybe it's just an occasion that they want to celebrate by eating a special meal.

You also talk like restaurants would choose fancy ingredients based on the simply fact that they're expensive, as if to boost the price of a dish, but that couldn't be further from the truth. They simply choose the produce that the chef or restaurant owner likes, and deem worth it for their particular restaurant and what their particular customers would expect and want. If they didn't think an ingredient was worth the price difference, then they simply wouldn't use it.

I don't know why you just don't go buy a sack of dog food for $15 and eat that for the month.

If you've ever been to a resturaunt that serves things like the right picture, you know that those meals generally come in different courses, and you generally leave just as full because you had a starter, entree and dessert that are all extremely well made and taste incredible and you got to enjoy that with friends or someone you love in a beautiful classy restaurant. No shit a pile of mediocre chinese food is much less expensive it's just frozen shit covered in msg that you can eat at your desk while you watch moeshit.

>>14177198
Very cool!

>>14181316
im watching batman

>>14181305
>If they didn't think an ingredient was worth the price difference, then they simply wouldn't use it.
how naive

The wageslave wants to feel superior and justified of his vain existence. That's why.

>>14181492
It's kinda true though, why would they pick more expensive ingredients just for the sake of it? It would hurt their bottom line.

>>14177125
You know how sometimes a new series of computer parts comes out and there's one for the average person and then there's one that's only like 10% better and costs 3 times as much only because it's technically the best thing available? It's like that.

Also jews.

>repackaged dog food vs "restaurants" that like fine art are a front for money laundering schemes of the rich and famous
One's for mutts, the other's for kikes.

>>14180111
its basic cooking everyone knows that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFboYreY4fA

you dont make fried rice with fresh rice

>>14177284
>>14177594
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>>14181479
Oh god, my sides, that's fucking gold.
Can't believe 4 guys are actually mad that someone doesn't buy the fancy cuisine bullshit. Best food is made at home with regular ingredients and love, fuck your fancy chef BS I don't want 2cm2 of fish laid on a single lettuce leaf.

>>14177198
absolutely based.

>>14178243
what a fucking tool lmao.
Anon I have a UNIQUE pen to sell you, it's $500 but I can assure you that nobody else have that pen (especially not broke losers).

>>14177326
based anon, don't fall for the chef BS, get yourself a nice cheap meal and move on.