/ck/ - Food & Cooking

But they taste good

>>14128727
Yes, and?

>>14128727
>we have vegetables, meat, and fish
>meat, and fish
People are so stupid.

>>14128727
Yes, and? I quit red meat for environmental reasons. I just eat a lot of turkey, fish, and seafood these days.

>>14128737
in many cultures fish and meat are separate things

like how veggies and fruit are separate things even though ""veggies"" like tomato and eggplant are fruits

>>14128759
What the fuck do I care about "other cultures". They're wrong.

>>14128738
>I quit red meat for environmental reasons
>I just eat a lot of turkey, fish, and seafood these days
Moron.

>>14128782
but white people do it too
in catholicism fish and meat are separate

>You are not allowed to eat meat or poultry on Ash Wednesday or any Friday during Lent - but you can eat fish. During Biblical times, fish and seafood was a cheap — or free — option, and not considered a luxury. Many people give up meat for Lent as it's the total opposite — at least it was during Jesus' day.

>>14128793
>christianity
>white

>>14128788
>moron
I know you are but what am I?

>>14128803
>muh cow farts
Literally braindead.

>>14128807
Not an argument.

>>14128803
>global warming
>antarctica melts
>now suddenly have a whole new continent to plant trees on to soak up all the CO2

i dont see the problem

>>14128812
Appropriate.

>>14128817
That's not how it works. Sort of for Russia because their permafrost is defrosting which is giving them swathes of valuable farmland. The negatives vastly outweigh the benefits. Like the Amazon forest - yes, they are NOT the lungs of the world - are an incredibly important filtration system and part of the climation regulation of the entire continent. If the Amazon forest is sufficiently cut, a lot of southern states in the US will desertify. Brazil will gain some farmland but plenty of surrounding countries even as far as the US will lose a lot more.

>>14128738
>Environmental reasons
Spit out the liberal Kool aid. Eating meat doesn't have a quantifiable environmental impact. Opposition to factory farming is purely a moral decision, and you can always source meat from small farms with higher standards.

>>14128845
>brazil
brazil is a shithole of corruption, nothing new

>>14128845
who says anything about cutting
this is about increasing temperature
desertification is being reversed now more than ever
the earth is going through a greening process

this is all natural by the way

>not stuffing and grilling it

>>14128727
Someone who only eats fish and vegetables is, I believe, called a pescatarian.

>>14128727
u r mum is meat
that is all

>>14128793
>in catholicism fish and meat are separate

They're just plain wrong though. There is absolutely zero logical explanation to how muscle tissue from an animal under the waterline is magically somehow not meat.

Also
>catholics
>white
lol

>>14128759
and in thailand monks can eat fish even though monks are supposed to be vegetarian

>>14128727
Tasty fried skin

>>14128759
>fish isn’t meat so vegetarians think it’s a vegetable
Retard. I know what you’re getting at. Some vegetarians claim to eat fish. You are retarded though and don’t realize that vegetarians aren’t vegans and most do it for dietary reasons over ethical ones and the ones that do eat fish know they aren’t true vegetarians and usually a state their dietary exception.

>>14129057
where was i talking about vegans and vegetarians? get some reading comprehension you homo

>>14128807
>overpopulations don’t cause environmental damage
Braindead /pol/mutt conspiritard. Go LARP in your containment board instead of somewhere that grown ups can see you and judge you.

>>14128727
>tilapia
it's not even food.

>>14128803
>spend a decade scientifically prove CO2 is the problem
>get challenged for a few yea
>ACHTUALLY METHANE
Every fucking time.

>>14128852
>muh /pol/ arguments
Do actual research instead of blindly believing every infograph you come across. /pol/ is only right half the time. The other half they are just as retarded as the left

>>14129071
>overpopulations
Kill yourself if you're so concerned.

I’m not a vegetarian for ethical reasons so I don’t fucking care

>>14129103
>Do actual research
You've never done actual research in your life. You gobbled up some "authority's" agenda and regurgitated back here like the good little drone you are.

>>14129095
They've always said cow farts were a huge deal. Don't be disingenuous because you're too stupid to pay attention or remember it. I read this in my biology textbook in the late 90s.

>>14128803
>per kilogram
Irelevant data if you don't also provide the yearly production of all those products in kilograms.
In most countries, beef isn't the #1 produced meat. in fact we mostly eat 9 time more vegetables as a whole than actual meat and meat product. It's easy to believe USA's data, but USA are not the rest of the world. Globalization failed, most countries aren't burger eating balls of lard on scooter.

>>14128759
fish is culinarily fish, that's why there's a distinction between a fish pie and a meat pie.

>>14129123
70% of the average american's diet is plant based.

>>14128983
The blood from fish is clean as opposed to the unclean blood of a meat animal. It is a theological reason.

>>14129123
Look up the numbers yourself retard. Beef is double all the rest combined

>>14129149
That’s because it’s 50% sugar and HFCS

>>14128852
>Eating meat doesn't have a quantifiable environmental impact.
Bro we literally cut down rain forest every single day to make more cattle grazing pastures.

>>14128817
>i dont see the problem
The overwhelming majority of the Earth's vegetation is in the ocean, the ocean is acidifying killing said vegetation. You are a retard.

>>14129174
Not him but eating meat is not contingent upon the destruction of the rainforest.

>>14129186
relax
elon musk will create a carbon absorber and save us
and also make anime real

>>14128727
>what is pescatarian
are americans really this dumb?

>>14129153
>The blood from fish is clean as opposed to the unclean blood of a meat animal.

I'm and atheist and while I try really hard not to not come across as some kind of fedora-tipper, I just cannot think of someone who believes that as a rational being. "Unclean blood" is caveman thunder demon shit.

>>14129187
Something doesn't have to be contingent upon something to be contributory to it. Westerners eat way too much meat, that's just a fact, it promotes and supports an overly large meat industry.

>>14129174
and effectively 0% of our meat supply comes from there, so the usa continuing to eat meat means nothing for the rain forest

>>14129243
Fuck off, kike.

>>14129243
>Westerners eat way too much meat
says who? wheat lobbyists
yeah fuck off

>>14129205
>what is pescatarian
not vegetarian.

>>14129243

>too much meat

Why so? According to whom? By what standards? Suck my dick. I'm never going to eat bugs.

>>14129243
>Westerners eat way too much meat
Westerners have huge tracks of land upon which to grow meat bearing cattle. You're just jelly your country is tiny.

>>14128727
>Fish is meat.

Mind= blown

>>14129250
>meanwhile, in reality
https://beef2live.com/story-united-states-beef-imports-204-107547

And that's just the US, people in general eat too much meat in the west.

>>14129285
Why do you think Americans buy shit from China? Because it is cheaper. The fact there's huge amounts of land in America means nothing if it's cheaper to get meat from elsewhere.

>>14128727
vegetarians don't eat fish, retard, its presbyterians that do

>>14128788
>uses a period after a single word
Moron

>>14129397
>has a period after a single month
Woman.

>>14129273
just eat less meat and more lentils asswipe

>>14129412
want to try and make me?

>what is pescetarianism
jfc its like quarantine has melted everyone's brain

>>14129641
i think op's point was against pescetarians who call themselves vegetarians you turbonigger

>>14129388
this, my Granny is a presbyterian

>>14129159
>Look up the numbers yourself retard.
you have the burden of proof on your side, fanatic.

>>14129378
I don't know what that site is but judging from the name of it, clearly nothing it can say can be trusted

>>14128803
You'd be surprised how much trash in the ocean comes from fishing.

>>14129689
Would you believe the USDA?
https://www.worc.org/were-importing-beef-and-labeling-it-product-of-the-usa/

>>14129668
anybody that adheres to a specific diet is smart enough to call it by the right name. I've know plenty of vegans pescetarians and vegetarians and they always make the right distinction.

>>14129668
only in the west do people get so autistic about labels

>>14129802
well ive known retards who call themselves vegetarians who eat fish and even a couple who say they are vegetarian except for chicken so take your anecdotal bullshit and stick it up your japs eye

>>14130077
a vegetarian isn't going burst into flames if they eat one piece of meat. you are way too concerned over the lifestyle preferences of other people.

>>14130139
i literally couldnt give a flying fuck what they do, stop trying to deflect from you being wrong

>>14130192
I wrong that pescetarians tend to only eat fish and vegetables or i'm wrong that they will burst into flames if the break their diet?

>>14128817
Some places will get colder, that's not quite how that works. For instance, more water evaporates, rain comes sooner, causing certain places to be significantly wetter and colder. Other places will be significantly drier and hotter because of that. The weather is going to be fucked.

>>14130209
you're wrong that there aren't people who call themselves vegetarians and eat fish, you're wrong that many people don't have some deep rooted idealogy that fish do not count as meat and you're wrong about what OP meant

>>14130253
if you tell somebody they'll be served served meat they'll be expecting a cut of steak not a fillet of salmon. as >>14128759 pointed out we have these distinctions so that one isn't confused for the other. you're certainly posting a lot despite the fact that you don't care

>>14129214
You sound like an aids victim.

>>14128738
>I quit red meat for environmental reasons.
>fish ok tho
https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/overfishing
"The number of overfished stocks globally has tripled in half a century and today fully one-third of the world's assessed fisheries are currently pushed beyond their biological limits, according to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_finning
https://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/economy/moratorium.php
https://usa.oceana.org/blog/bycatch-spotlight-one-biggest-issues-facing-sharks-today
>>14128852
Large scale rearing of livestock is responsible for an absolutely obscene amount of environmental damage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production
>>14129273
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26853923/

Is this thread just packed with underage teenagers who would normally be at school or something?

>>14130312
hmm, what about a whale steak?

>>14130312
>what are we having for dinner?
>i'm serving meat
said no one ever

>>14130312
i said i dont care what retards eat but im more than happy to waste my time in quarantine calling out clowns who try and be clever

ATTENTION EVERYONE
THE SKY IS BLUE
THAT IS ALL.

>>14129464
You're going to have to when the price of meat doubles, it's healthier anyway.

>>14128731
Based and improv pilled

>>14130495
That's not true for every fish you twit.

>>14130139
>a vegetarian isn't going burst into flames if they eat one piece of meat.

No, but they're clearly lying about being a vegetarian. Which is the goddamn point of the thread.

>>14129384
Is this bait? China is a nett protein importer. American pork is a huge part of the Chinese meat market
>that innuendo tho

>>14130974
That would matter if anon was specific but he wasnt and so it doesnt.

>>14131243
That's pork. And you're missing the point, we still import meat from China for cheaper markets.

http://www.foodandpower.net/2019/11/08/usda-greenlights-contentious-chinese-chicken-imports-following-news-of-poultry-trade-deal/

good day

>>14130495
Good post. Fish farms are disgusting too and a terrible idea, if anything people need to eat less seafood.

>>14128727
Pesco-vegetarian is a dangerous diet. Collagene is essential for the joints, and is only found in MEAT, not fish, dairies or eggs. I've been in this diet for 4 year and I developed horrible joints pain.

>>14130768
>said no human ever

>>14131291
>and is only found in MEAT, not fish,

Fish is meat though. That's the whole fucking point of the thread.

>>14131254
That is you autism talking. Ask you handler about it. The failure to state exclusions in a general statement does not imply an absence if exclusions in practice.

>>14131300
No, fish is not meat. Fish is fish, meat is meat.

>>14131706
Fish are friends

>>14128983
The laws are written in Latin and coarsely translated.

>>14129057
I know a vegetarian who says fish and insects have no souls so she can consume those. She also will eat meat off of discarded "animal carcasses" at her work because she feels that the wasted meat is an afront to the animals soul. She works at Popeyes.

ive never tried catfish before, is it good?

>>14129731
Canada too, I once worked at a plant unpacking chicken from Brazil and repackaging it as "product of Canada"

>>14128727

>>14132002
Fry it up in cornmeal with coleslaw and sweet tea, good shit

>>14131312
Yes, in isolation. However the exclusion makes anons central point (ie fish is more environmentally friendly with respect to his dietary choices) moot. Most anything can become true if you generalize it enough, communicate with specificity or get out i;m not interested in your semantics.

>>14128803
>"nuts have a negative land use change..."
whoa...

>>14132272
Only in consideration of carbon capture. It's very postmodern