/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14006748
First

Why are coffefags always so far up their own asses?

>>14007320
Dibs on posting this next thread.

Today I had my coffee black with homemade blueberry scones

Do I need a proper grinder for Clever dripper or will a cheapo Walmart blade grinder do? I just need my coffee to be okay, I don't need it to be fantastic.

>>14008168
get one with a coarse/fine setting for when you get another coffee machine

roasted some Sumatra Mandheling last week. Tried it with my v60, bland. French press, bland. Tried it in my espresso machine today and its got some great acidity and sweetness. Never had such a big difference when using the same beans (usually my coffee is nice any brewing method), what gives?

>>14006748
I've grown tired of coffee lately, I don't really know why, but I think it might have to do with my heartburn. It's not pleasant to drink anymore.

>>14006748
Coffee gives me the most based vinegary shits

Just moved home from Vancouver to Dublin, got out of my 2 week self isolation and decided to buy some coffee. Found this shit in lidl for €2.50. I didn't even know that you could buy whole bean roasted coffee for that cheap.
On the nose through the valve I'm getting notes of;
>Unethical labour practices

Vietnamese coffee layers

>>14006748
I have coffee from my espresso machine. I like dark roasts but not too dark. With sugar.

This is the shit,no tryharding on pretentious shit. Coffee is for serious people.

You fucking hipsters should go drink tea.

24 hours is the best amount of coldbrewing time imho

>>14009513
1 minute hot start then 12 hours at room temp

How does /ck/ make their coffee?

>>14011158
Flair or v60. ~15g for a double espresso, or a mug of pourover.

Whats your grinder and espresso machine setup? I'm on a shitty Mr coffee burr grinder and want to upgrade my v60 cup and get into espresso. I tried the $100 oxo3 grinder and wasn't satisfied, it didn't like to feed beans and had to be shaken constantly. Is pic related okay?

>>14012931
Best grinder for under 500 probably.

What's your coffee to water ratio in tablespoons to cups?

>>14013037
These are not effective units of measure. Try 16g water per 1g coffee, and use a scale.

>>14013039
sorry anon not going to break out my chemistry set when I'm half asleep at 7 in the morning. I'm going to scoop my coffee using heaping tablespoons and you're going to respect that

>>14013043
Its very easy and cheap to use a scale. Try 2tbsp and a little extra to one 8ounce cup of water

>>14013043
Imagine getting out shit to scoop shit into other shit. Get a scale, pour.

>>14012931
I use HARIO hand grinder

>>14006748
>wake up 2am from napping all day
>5am now, drink coffee leftover from yesterday
im thinking based, anyways, fuck chinese people and fuck their virus

Guys, is there any budget Manual Espresso machine that can do the proper pressure? I don't care how it looks.
I've been Looking into regular Espresso machines but anything below 500€ seems to be garbage that either can't make proper Espresso to begin with or falls apart after a few months. I get it since they seem to be Pretty complicated machines with the heating, the vapor and all. But then I found out that Manual machines exist which don't really consist of much more than a Lever and a metal filter, so they should be cheaper. I looked on Amazon but they only have half a dozen models from some third Party supplier at leat in my country...
I just want to make Espresso at home, but I can't justify spending 1000€+ when I can make Pretty decent coffee with a waterfilter, a kettle, a 30 bucks aeropress and freshly Ground beans from my local roaster I pass every day anyways.

>>14006748
I'm starting to dislike coffee. I drink it everyday to wake up in the morning and I'm sick of it by now. I used to love cappuccino and latte, but now if I were in some café, I'd just drink cocoa.

>>14014243
I tried mixing my coffee with about half a packet of dark choccy swiss miss. It's pretty good

>>14007320
I think you mean teafags who are so full of themselves they enjoy smelling their own farts

>>14014076
the flair or the cafelat robot.

I severe people instant coffee in a fancy Hario pot, and they think they're getting specialty coffee, they literally can't tell.

>>14014076
I pull several doubles daily with a scratch and dent flair signature + pressure gauge. $210 for everything. Pair that with a ~$200 handgrinder and you're g o l d e n. You can even skip the grinder if you're getting fresh shit locally, but its good to have around for when you want to branch out. Stepless grinder is undoubtedly better for your home scenario so you're not running out to have them grind more beans when your shots are pulling fast.

>>14012931
Check TJMaxx, Marshalls or HomeGoods. They had the breville grinder at a great price.

/ck/ I need help.
Been a coffee drinker for a long fucking time, and I usually drink about 20-30oz a day because being a teacher is difficult as fuck.

When I was a teenager I switched to French Press because the taste was so much better than a drip-cloth coffee maker. However, French Press is slow and a pain in the ass to clean. I've tried a few other options but nothing beats the continence factor of using a machine to make my coffee, so I'm going to save the French Press for special occasions/parties/whatever.

What coffee maker should I get that has a metal filter in it? I want something that won't dilute the taste like a generic coffee filter. I also need something that can make a large pot of coffee. My wife wants an espresso machine and we have some Williams Sonoma giftcard, but some of their Keurig rip-offs are just as shitty as Keurig with their proprietary coffee cup/pod things.

Any advice would be great.

>>14015311
Use that WS giftcard towards a breville barista pro. Half decent grinder, gets your wife her espresso fix. Won't do your big cups of filter though. You could look at a technivorm/brevilles clone of that, or just get a size 4 v60, a coffee sock, and use the BBP grinder.

>>14015330
No need for a grinder. I'm a pleb who just does it at the store. Thanks for the advice though, but not sure if this solves the situation.

>>14015368
Store grinding espresso doesn't really work unless you're using pressurized baskets. Technivorm/breville clone is what you're looking at. Sonoma has it. Breville Precision Brew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfkdkZRv6Mc

>>14015469
Sorry, I should have clarified.
Let's get away from the whole espresso thing. My wife can sort that shit on her own.

I just want a good metal-filter coffee maker that isn't a pain to clean and is faster than a French Press, i.e., a machine. Recommendations?

>>14015291
all those places are closed because of corona

>>14015469
Sorry, spoke too soon. So does that thing have metal filters on it as an option? Still watching vid.

>>14015499
Not sure what comes in the box, but you can get one of these and snag a cheap metal v60 filter.

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-Precision-Brewer-Pour-Adapter/dp/B07PYK5SMG

>>14015499
You can buy metal filters for the cone for 30 bucks or so.

>>14012931
Lido E and the Flair

I want an electric grinder. What's good?

>>14015489
not a machine but get an aeropress and a metal filter
shit is really easy to clean and fun to mess around with
really fast since you can push the coffee out immediately after putting water in

>>14015469
Been looking at this thing now, which seems like it does everything I need.

Can you fit a metal cone filter in it though? That's the million dollar question I can't seem to find an answer for.

>>14015770
>>14015611
>>14015617


Yes. I'm unsure what comes in the box, but there are various compatible metal filter baskets.

Cnet review says

>The brewer comes with a filter basket, cone filter adapter and a permanent flat-bottom metal filter.


So they give you flat bottom metal basket, but you can purchase a metal cone if you'd like.

>>14015905
Yeah I saw that, I'm just wondering can a metal cone one fit... specifically one like this?

https://www.amazon.com/Pour-Over-Coffee-Filter-Reusable/dp/B01DY6FO8O?ref_=s9_apbd_orecs_hd_bw_bxQKt&pf_rd_r=FRFE7F5K369CTXJM8Z0V&pf_rd_p=2ab3114a-d179-5adc-b139-13937110c0f4&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-11&pf_rd_t=BROWSE&pf_rd_i=14162591

>>14015926
>cone filter adapter

Seems like it. That $30 pourover adapter seems like its specifically to hold the little bottom lip of a v60, your cone should just sit in that center basket.

>>14015638
The breville in that post is better than it should be. Looking forward to the Fellow Ode. Lots of people really like the Niche Zero

>>14015926
You need a long cone, one that fits in a melitta #4 basket. That v60 one won't fit. https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-Coffee-Filter-Cone-Fits/dp/B00B86QMBQ

That will

>>14016010


>Flair

>When grinders try to tackle both brewed coffee and espresso, they become a master of none. In stark contrast, Ode was designed to dominate brewed coffee— pour-over, French press, cold brew, and more.

>>14016037
Didn't see that you just wanted it for the flair. Either way, Fellow's marketing rhetoric there does not apply to home espresso. The reason that commercial espresso grinders are specific to espresso is because of the nature of their grind workflow. To start your grinder with beans in the burrs already takes more torque and causes more stress to the motor. The solution is to use powerful motors and smaller burrs. For home use, with a single doser like the Ode, this is not a constraint. If a flat burr grinder can't grind for espresso it is a matter of poor alignment, and should be fixed regardless. So you can use a well aligned Ode to make espresso, though it might not have the resolution of adjustment in that range to be ideal. The reason the Ode is appealing to me is the price, flat burrs, and it looks like the burrs would be easy to align if they didn't already come well aligned.

The breville or the niche may serve you better for precise adjustment.

>>14016333
I'm the other guy with a flair. Reason the Ode doesn't appeal to me is the price lol. I need to know what corners they cut to target that price point.

https://youtu.be/P9cxIxMatnE

Jannies can suck my hairy uncircumcised COCK if they try to ban me again

>>14014076
>>14014318
I'd say go for the cafelat because even though it's a bit more expensive for the Flair you have to heat up the brew chamber before use. With the robot you don't have to worry about preheating the machine. Also I got the rok grinder at WLL at $189 and I've been very happy with it for espresso and brewing.

Maybe someone among you coffee nerds can explain me why there are so many ""people"" that like scolding hot coffee, forcing every shop to serve it that way by default.
I mean, saying you like coffee and asking them to serve it in a way you can't even taste it is kinda retarded.

>>14016422
It's not that complex. It's likely that they are producing at scale, and without too much extra nonsense. Take a look at the breville. It should be a 400 dollar grinder, but it's way cheaper because they have the factories and manufacturing knowledge.

>producing at scale


Its way easier to make 100k shitty units than it is to make 10k great units. In ANY facet of manufacturing.

>>14016983
So you are assuming they will be low quality? You also ignored my entire point. You can produce something of equal quality for a cheaper price if you produce more total units. That means that despite the lower price, you could actually get a higher quality item.

>>14017055
How much manufacturing experience do you have? Have you ever attempted to bring a product to market with foreign manufacturing? I'm assuming the quality will reflect the price point, as their engineering and marketing teams intended. Fellow makes great products that fail repeatedly. If you get a good one, hold onto it. Electronics known to fail, see the CONTINUAL, years long battle with the "no water" error on ekgs and corvos.

Should I elevate myself to a chemex or a v60 next? I've been using an aeropress but I want something larger for the weekends when I have more time to drink more coffee.

>>14006748
>flat white

so a latte?

>>14017371
It uses less milk than a latte and is foamed a little different. Its pretty close though, basically a less diluted version.

>>14015311
Percolator?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_r5kpXPRYo Thoughts ?

>>14012931
>>14014076
Manual espresso & grinder? I like ROK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdsqF83x9rA

>>14007320
To get that Flavor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak

Bump

>>14015126
I often travel and go to random shops to get V60. Sometime it sucks but I never say anything. Maybe this is what happens here.

Can I make cappuccino at home if I don't have this shit?

>>14019287
lmao thats not what you use for frothy milk retard, you use a steam wand
you can just microwave milk or stop being a poorfag and get something to froth it properly

Aeropress and Hand frothed.
Simple as.

Where do people get their ratios from? I've been doing french press for awhile and never really measured anything out just filled it to the brim with water and did a scoop/per [large] cup of coffee. A method I read was 30g of bean to 500g of water. I finally measured what I normally do which makes a pretty flavorful cup of coffee and it's 15g of bean to 400g of water. The method I followed is producing really bitter/acidic/overpowering cups of coffee and I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or if people drink extremely strong coffee all the time.

>>14020094

To elaborate I just used 35g of bean to 725g of water and my coffee still tastes too bitter and acidic. I normally do 35g to about 800-850g of water. I dont understand where people are getting 60g of bean to 1000g of water from, its undrinkable.

>>14017354
V60. Result is generally better, and filters cost less.

>>14020426
i use 13g/150ml of finely ground coffee in a machine that produces around 4-5 bar pressure and it makes a nice cup. I suppose your ratios would depend on your grind and brewing method.

>>14020562

>depend on your grind and brewing method.

Ding ding ding.


>>14020426
Play with your grind. Get fresher beans. Way more variables to control than water weight and bean weight.

>>14020580
>Play with your grind. Get fresher beans.

I go to a local roaster, my beans are extremely fresh.

>>14020562

I use a medium or coarse grind and I'm using a french press. 13g to 150mL sounds like incredibly strong coffee.

>>14020623
>>14020638

Don't mean to spam but I usually use two scoops (about 28g total) of beans, grind coarse, and fill my french press (800mL) for two larger than average mugs of coffee. It tastes perfect, and am just going to go back to doing that. But I'm just trying to figure out how ratios like 60g of coffee to 1000g of water taste good because it was way too much when I tried to make it.

>>14020638
i'd say the coffee i brew with my machine is sort of between moka pot coffee and actual espresso. i get decent extraction and am able to get a thin crema but it's not quite espresso hence why i brew 150ml. it's strong enough to use as you would actual espresso in drinks like lattes, capps or americanos but not strong enough to drink as straight espresso.

>>14006748

>>14020623
Are they grinding it for you? Ideally you want to tweak from cup to cup, not bag to bag.

>>14020871

No I have my own grinder

>>14020931
>>14020580


>Play with your grind.

You can suffer a few shitty cups of coffee if you're learning about particle size and extraction.

>>14020426
Grind much finer. Get better coffee. You are also using not nearly enough coffee.

>>14020623
>local roaster
That's likely the problem. The vast majority of local roasters are clueless and are making terrible coffee. Freshness is much less important than the quality of the green coffee and the roast quality.

>>14020845

most heroin users don't use the entire syringe. in fact its not really recommend. most shots are around .3-.5ml.

>>14021111
good point, good digits, will revise.

>>14021076

I thought you were supposed to avoid finely ground coffee in French press. And it seems like im not using nearly enough but when I make it my way it tastes like its supposed to. 60g of grounds looked like it could make 3-4 cups of coffee. I couldnt imagine using 30g for one.

>>14021111
there are versions ive seen that have "nevermind, now i need to poop" under "now you may speak", but for the heroin version it would say "now i dont need to shit, maybe ever again"

>>14021143
nope. Grind fine.

bump

>>14008648
>with sugar
Have you tried it without sugar?

Anyone here roast their own beans? What method do you use? Wanna get into since I have nothing else to do

>>14022157
Modded popcorn popper. I'm in the process of redoing my top housing so I should have some screenshots up in a few days. Going to move my bean temp probe up a bit and redesign the way I attached the screen.

>>14022157
Modified popper. Mine's less high tech than >>14022422
though. I wired in a knob to control the heater, and have a thermocouple that I use to graph the roast. Works well.

>>14023282
My brother stole and lost my dremel. Replaced it with a 0.5 amp piece of junk from Harbor Freight. Spent 20 minutes cutting into that coffee can for a new top, then sat outside pissed for 45 minutes. I'm just going to hacksaw it tomorrow and use a grinding wheel to clean it up a bit I guess. How far off the bottom of my roast chamber should I situate that bt probe?

>>14022157
Roasting coffee is a deep hole, man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1nmLcBYOxk
My advice: don't start. Haha

>>14023423
Steal his car and replace it with a pedal car.

I put my aeropress in the dishwasher and now all the markings are gone, is that normal or did I get a shitty batch? I have to put it in the dishwasher, it gets super greasy after 3-5 uses...

Any advice for bean to cup machines?

>>14023423
I have mine just under 1cm off the bottom, and the probe is parallel with the bottom so it can be fully submerged in the bean mass.

>>14006748
>10 cup Chemex
>Capresso Infinity grinder, set to the largest medium grind
>Oster BVST-EK5967-NP
>Caribou Blend

Not exactly fancy or precise, but it's pretty drinkable black.

>Fill water kettle
>Rinse chemex
>Light tea warmer candle
>Put about the right amount of beans into grinder and run it
>Put filter in chemex
>Rinse filter, swirl the hot water around to pre-heat pot
>Add grounds, pour a bit of the water in and let it bloom for a minute
>Slowly add the rest of the water until it's used up
>Cap with shot glass between pours to keep hot

>>14008168
>Walmart blade grinder
These are only for grinding spices.

>>14025068
Do I need the Baratza Encore?

>>14025083
Depends, how autistic about how exact your coffee is?

I get pretty good results from both a $15 hand grinder and a Sub-$100 Capresso Infinity.

Had some gourmet stuff today, totally recommend it. Drink it black like a fucking man

It happened to me as well. I don't really care since I use a scale

>>14025102
I just need it to make a 6.5/10 cup of filter coffee.

>>14025144
Eh, a decent grinder and pourover set will cost about the same as a good drip machine, I'd say just buy pre-ground if that's all you want.

So went with 60g of bean to 1000g to water and coffee is way too dark and bitter. Where does this ratio come from? I am using pic related and grinding fine on the spot. I could actually taste the notes when I use far less bean and more water. Going to try lowering it down to 40g of bean.

Here's the graph from my roast today. Used Colombia Maria Rojas. I rehydrated these ones, and they definitely look different than the normal ones. I'll post a picture of the two different batches side by side in a second.

Is there a decaf that doesn't taste bad?

>>14025527
Kenco Decaff tastes better than the normal coffee

>>14025509
Here's the two batches side by side. On the left is the non-rehydrated batch, the right is rehydrated to around 16%. Very similar roast level. You can see the hydrated batch looks darker, with more pronounced mottling. Had the same kind of result with the rehydrated kenyan. I'll taste them tomorrow to see the differences.

>>14025561
Sorry, normal on the bottom, hydrated on the top.

>>14025505
Your coffee is just bad. The picture you posted, if that's the coffee, indicates a roaster that has low information, roasts too dark, and does not properly assess the coffee post roast or track data during the roast. The lack of information about the green coffee indicates that the green is likely of poor quality. The flavors you are tasting are of over roasted coffee that has also likely been roasted very badly.

The ratio of 60g/L comes from a calculation. The calculation starts with a good extraction level, somewhere around 20-21%. Then it takes into account the average north american preference for coffee concentration of somewhere around 1.2-1.3%. To get both of those with one liter of water, you start with 60g of coffee. If your coffee tastes bad there, you have bad tasting coffee to start with, most likely.

does the temperature of the water matter when you're about to brew?

>>14025355
Pretentious and wrong my friend
https://youtu.be/wS8igZyhNFw
Coffee made with a blade grinder is just fine, and buying preground is absolutely the worse thing you can do. Burr grinder is only really necessary for things like pour over and espresso where consistent grind size are critically important for good water flow.

>>14025582
You're both kind of wrong. Ground coffee, especially lighter roasts, can be good tasting for a few days. Coffee ground on a blade grinder can also taste good. Coffee ground on an ek43 and then brewed the next day will likely taste better than coffee ground on a blade grinder right before brewing. A good grinder will bring flavors into focus, a blade grinder is forgiving but always muddy. It's likely that the folks in that video aren't particularly familiar with top tier coffee. Supermarket grinders are not much better than a blade grinder anyway, and the coffee there is terrible regardless.

>>14025598
Good point about the tasters being plebs. I agree with your description of the flavor differences. Just wanted to contest the idea that coffee made with a blade grinder is invalid and they should just not bother.

>>14025620
Couldn't agree more. I think the dogmatic backlash to things that are vilified in coffee comes from a place of insecurity and misunderstanding of one's own coffee. Most people aren't making very good coffee; they buy beans that are too dark, poorly roasted and sourced, and kind of bad water. Every cup they make is mediocre at best. They invest money into some gadget or other in expectation that it will make their coffee taste good. It doesn't, but they have to justify spending the money, so they latch onto ideas about just how bad X is. I was there once, back when I started. Turns out the local roaster I was buying from is actually making coffee that is stupendously bad. I've come a long way, have excellent equipment and have learned a lot. Tasted one of their "medium" roast coffees next to a 22.5% DTR batch of my own (which is as dark as I've ever roasted for myself) and theirs was flat, devoid of acidity or sweetness, papery, dully, roasty, bitter. It was a 0/10. The better the equipment and skill, the more obvious the lack of quality is. I've also made delicious coffee with a blade grinder, and with instant coffee. People don't want to hear that though, because they've spent money and time on their drip maker and local roasted coffee - they don't want to know that they could be drinking coffee that tastes 10x as good for a quarter of the price if they just used proper water at the right temperature to make instant (around 60c btw).

>>14025620
>Just wanted to contest the idea that coffee made with a blade grinder is invalid and they should just not bother.
Blade grinders create random ground sizes, heat the coffee beans, and in general don't make consistent coffee.

They're great for making fresh spice powders, though. Which is why they should be renamed as spice grinders.

>>14025645
Local roaster in my area is also terrible. Been trying a few different roasters ordering online. Recommend any? Also agree on Instant, I think Instant coffee is actually better than most most supermarket coffee like Folgers, Maxwell ect. Side rant, I think the whole justifying costs thing explains the huge following Keurigs have with normies. They don't get hot enough to actually brew coffee, I'm pretty sure those little pods are just filled with Instant Coffee anyway but it comes out worse and costs more, and takes longer than Instant.

>>14025686
Yes they are inconsistent, but they don't make coffee taste bad. They are perfectly useable. They are great for spices though. I have a separate one for spices. detachable stainless steel grind chamber

>>14025577

I'm not disagreeing with you, but can you explain how I am able to taste the flavors described on the bag by using less bean/more water compared to the standard ratio?

new to coffee here. How do I get the most chaste baste taste yannowhatimean? I can get grinded beans from Costco but idk if they're good or not. I also don't know how to make it, what machines and how much I should spend.

>>14025705
What temperature water and method of brewing are you using? If you're doing some kind of immersion method you may be losing less heat by having a higher ratio of water. Try preheating the vessel

>>14025715

I brew at 212F and use french press.

>>14025745
I promise you it is a coffee problem, and maybe a water composition problem. Try some coffee from cat & cloud

>>14025745
Are you preheating the French press?

>>14025748

I use the coffee I posted because it's local, that's from California? Beans will be shit by the time they get to me.

>>14025751

I've never heard of preheating a french press.

>>14025582
>Burr grinder is only really necessary for things like pour over
Is Porlex enough for V60, or do I need to spring for Aergrind?

>>14025620
And inconsistent grinds cause inconsistent extraction. What aren't you understanding?

>>14025755
Pour some water into the press and little it sit for a couple of minutes, pour it out, then add the coffee, new water, and brew. If you don't do this, the water will lose a lot of heat immediately as soon as you pour it into the press because the temperatures will try to equalize, resulting in a weak extraction. You were accidentally mitigating this by having additional water. Try the proper ratio again, but preheat the press this time.

>>14025770
Inconsistent extraction does not mean bad flavor. It basically results in a blend of sorts. Which doesn't taste bad either. Single Origins/Burr Grinders just have more focused flavors.

>>14025768
Porlex should be fine, you don't need really fancy Grinders unless you're getting into espresso.

>>14025774

I'll try this out. But I'm not sure it's causing weak extraction. It seems over extracted with the 60/1000 ratio because the coffee is darker and more bitter compared to what I was doing before, which resulted in more flavorful coffee.

>>14025755
Shipping doesn't take long. Light roasted coffee can be good for more than a month past roast. The coffee from that local roaster will be shit from day 1 until it's gone. Try finding a better roaster locally if you really don't want to ship. What's your city? I'll see what I can find for you.

>>14025808
How finely are you grinding and how long are you steeping?

>>14025808
Btw I also agree with the other guy that your coffee is likely shit. My friend orders from those happy mug people and I remember it tasting awful.

>>14025808
Oh also important. Since you're preheating the press, you don't need the water at full 212, I'd take it off the boil for 45 seconds or so before putting it on the coffee

>>14025864

But it tastes pretty good when I use more water. I know it's not the best coffee but this supposed standard ratio is causing my coffee to taste overbrewed and I'm trying to understand why. I was probably using around 15-20g per 400L when I was eyeballing things and the coffee would taste chocolatey, creamy, etc

>>14025842

I was doing coarse for awhile but switched to fine. In the press I let it steep for about 90 secs then skim off the crema or whatever it's called, then give it another 210 seconds.

>>14025892

Noted.

>>14025950
Shoot for medium, if you're using a blade grinder go for 12 pulses or so, give it a small shake between pulses, this will help it be more be even. Once you add water just leave it alone for 4 minutes. That's how I did it when I used French Press.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esEJ_-ergdU&feature=youtu.be

Is coffee good for you?

>>14025950
You prefer it at such a low concentration because it tastes bad. If you don't want to hear the answer, why ask?

>>14025998

No, it tastes fine at low concentration. It tastes like it's advertised. Truly bad coffee would still taste like shit no matter how you made it, your answer is a lame cop-out.

>>14026005
You are drinking coffee at half of the typically preferred concentration. When you increase the concentration so you can taste it properly, it tastes bad. You prefer it diluted because it tastes less bad, because there is half the concentration of bad tasting compounds. Brew ratio doesn't change flavor by much in an immersion brew like French press, it merely changes the concentration. It's not complicated.

>>14025986
Brew method matters a lot. If you use a method that doesn't involve a filter, it's pretty high in LDL cholesterol that's bad for your heart. Otherwise it's fine in moderation.

>>14025691
Keurigs are about as bad as it gets. It's around 7g of coffee in one of those pods, so you should only get a cup that's around 100g, but they make cups around twice that size.

For my all time favorite roasters try CleverCoffee and Phil & Sebastian.

For a general rule: look for roasters that have single origin coffee that, ideally, can specify the farm that the coffee came from. If they talk about roast degree a lot, that's a bad sign. From there it's a bit of a crapshoot - the number of roasters who do an OK job but still introduce some roast taints from bad RORs are pretty big, and you can't really tell if you're going to get that without trying it yourself.

>>14026049

Fair enough. I can't find any fresh roasters near me so I don't have many options available.

>>14026129
George Howell is great also, and in the states

>>14026143
Try another online option. Craft is in your price range and is supposed to be decent. I'm actually trying some myself, I'll report on quality when it arrives

>>14026143
Shipping costs shouldn't be too bad. I can order coffee from Denmark to Canada and pay around 10CAD in shipping, and get it within a week.

>>14026152
I've heard George Howell is the best of the best in the U.S, unfortunately a bit out of my price range. Been experimenting with a few sources trying to find a good value option to use consistently.

>>14012931
Doesn’t make espresso

>>14012931
https://www.baratza.com/shop/sette30-refurb
Get this instead

>>14026173
Yes it does
>>14013016
see that picture

>>14026172
Unfortunately that is the price range for good quality coffee. Below that and you are buying green coffee that is of lesser quality, or past crop, or both. It still ends up being quite inexpensive per cup.

>>14026202
I will try an order of George Howell once and see if it really is noticeably better. Thanks Anon.

>>14026215
Right on dude, hope you enjoy it.

>>14017354
chemex looks cooler which is why i bought it. james bond uses it when hes not on assignment in the books too.

>>14026551
Annoying filters though

>>14026574
>Open pre-fold
>Pinch tip crosswise
It'll stay in place just fine long enough for you to give it a quick rinse with about 6-8 ounces of boiling water, and after that stay perfectly conical.

>>14026574
i also think theyre annoying especially the round ones ill have to try >>14026707

Is there any actual advantage to v60 vs other cheaper pour overs? They all seem to be the same thing

>>14026825
>cheaper

Size 2 plastic v60s are $8.

>>14013016
>different coffee roast used between domestic and commercial grinders

kek.

>>14026825
Dimensions and filters are perfect, also yeah, they're not expensive to begin with

>>14027415
Fuck plastic

>>14012931
Are you willing to drop ~$800 on a basic espresso setup?

>>14027420
Compares well to the domestic grinders you dingus. And is suitable for espresso

>>14027457
Plastic is best

Can anyone help me get coffee milk right ?


I made a thick syrup of 1:1 coffee/sugar today and turned out good but it doesn't dissolve in cold milk at all. Am I missing something obvious here ?

>>14027646
Forgot pic to catch peoples attention


BTW even the half-assed version I made was DELICIOUS. Mine wasn't brown at all but it was still so sweet and the milk had a wonderful coffee body to it without being overpowering.

>>14027547

>>14027917
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_sink

>>14024318
Normal. Seems to vary per person, but if you machine wash it, you WILL eventually lose the gold letters. Did it at least leave a print outline you can use?

What's the catch?

>>14028613
It's a refurb. Usually when somebody gets a detective thing they return it through warranty and they basically just ship them another new one. They then fix what was wrong with the original product and since they can't sell it as new they sell it as refurb. Usually without warranty.

If I'm not bang on with that I'm at least not far off. At any rate usually it ends up being a non-issue but like 1 time out of 10 you're shit outta luck. I'd ask if there's a warranty but usually the only real difference is that you don't get to be the guy that puts the first scratch on it.

>>14006748
I have a question that hopefully someone here can answer

is there any specific, functional reason why portafilters are round?

besides the locking mechanism, and the "twist" of compressing the grounds

Is it?

>>14014076
Assuming that a double espresso in your local coffee shop is say €3.50, that's 142 espressos.
You also won't use it every day, you will for 2 weeks, the first few coffee's will not be that great because you're learning what your machine is capable of.
Honestly, seriously consider wheather or not it is worth it. You can go to your preferred coffee shop and get what you believe to be a good, consistent espresso every time.
That €500 is better spent on beans, a good grinder or some other basics. I would recommend that you be cautious on the idea, unless you are using it at least every three days over the course of a year, it hasn't been a good investment of your money or time.

However if you do choose to pull the trigger on this, under no circumstances should you use dark, or midium/dark coffee. The oils in the coffee WILL make your machines internal plumbing dirty over time, home espresso bars aren't designed to be cleaned like commercial ones and this can be a problem. Stick to medium or medium/light. And for the love of God, don't shell out a couple of hundred quid just to cheap out on a decent set of scales.

>>14027646
>>14027657
Why not make a rich simple syrup, coffee and milk separately and combine them in any way you want. It looks like the coffee syrup would go stale unless you like diabetes. No idea why it wouldn't dissolve, a 1:1 w/w syrup is not even thick.

do you guys ever put cocoa powder in your coffee? i been trying to mix it and a little milk but it doesn't really come out good.

>>14029487
You need to add some sugar. Raw cocco powder doesn't taste like chocolate until you add sugar.
Your best bet would be to make your own simple syrup using just sugar and water.
Alternatively you could use splenda or a sugar free vanilla syrup, but these will taste a little off but not disgusting.
Just make sure to measure how much you use, it's very easy for your mocha to go from tasting like chocolate and coffee to tasting like shit.

>>14029639
thanks, I might try. although I prefer not to use the sugar just because it's not good for ya

>>14029210
No corners, so the water can more evenly go through it, and easier to clean?

i like dark arabica roasts. I prefer turkish/espresso coffee. but i just drink whatever i'm served/can get.

>>14029487
No. What you need to do is heat some milk to about 55-60oC and then add it to some nice, finely chopped chocolate. Stir until chocolate dissolves, add cocoa and sugar, stir and then add coffee and stir some more. You can add extra hot milk before the coffee.

>>14029919
are these presumptions or is there somewhere definitive that states these reasons? They all make sense, it's just that im doing research for a project and coffee culture is full of so much "well i do it *this* way" that i cant find a good source on some things

>>14006748
Recently purchased the pictured electric burr grinder (hand grinding getting a bit too tedious). Good choice, or have I fucked up?

>>14030438
fucked up
Those are technically burr grinders, but they use a specific type of burr that really does a terrible job.

Here's an article on the type of burrs in that grinder
https://prima-coffee.com/learn/article/grinder-basics/learn-whats-deal-false-burrs/32642

>>14019127
no I think it's just that so many coffee shops offer V60s but have no clue what they're doing when it comes to pourovers

>>14029435
What does any of this means and yes the syrup is so thick if I turn the glass upside down it only barely starts to slide out

>>14029382
>The oils in the coffee WILL make your machines internal plumbing dirty over time


75% of the reason I shill my flair. Removable grouphead. Easier to clean than the robot, easily available orings, and theres nothing to break. You can grab scratch and dent signatures for $160.

>>14029210
Pressure

i put too much vanilla in my coffee and now it tastes bad

>french press broke
>shitty drip maker makes coffee taste like plastic
>old ass stove top espresso maker makes it taste like metal and probably will give me lead poisoning or something else
resorted to basics, used a funnel, put a paper towel in there with coffee and poured water over it until nice and done, could be better if i poured it slower but i found my alternative, based basics.

>>14030759
pressure from/for what and why does the shape help that

>>14031108
why are you obsessed with the shape when you haven't even researched the very basics of how espresso is made (ie how coffee extraction works)?

Will you get mad if I put coffee ground using a blade grinder into a V60 dripper?

>>14031108
https://www.mobilehydraulictips.com/hydraulic-cylinders-used/

>>14031126
I've got you buddy, don't stress out.

how to get frothed milk at right consistency for latte art? if I cook 2% milk on stovetop till 160F and then whisk it will it be less foamy bubble and more delicate? at the moment my built in milk frother just fucks shit up. i'm supposed to draw a bear in my girlfriend's cappuccino for her birthday

>>14031126
kek you dont know what i have and havent researched. i know how it works but what aspect of the pressure and why does the shape help with that? I know the basics and the workings of how espresso machines make coffee and how shit runs

i just cant find anything to clarify the reasons WHY the porta filter is round, or why a non-round portafilter would or wouldnt work

>>14031255
just saw this

doesnt it only matter if it's a pressurized portafilter though

>cheapeast most bitter preground i could find, through a 20€ electric maker
>it's okay
>prolly cup or two

>>14025561
>>14025509
Side by side the hydrated coffees are noticeably better. Bigger body and sweetness. Much more intense dry aromas. More flavorful overall. Not by the hugest amount, but it's worth the extra effort.

>>14031512
How did you rehydrate? Semirelated, I've heard the guys who press out rosin rehydrate their flower to 72% with boveda packs, but a few said they've had GREAT results by steaming their buds before pressing. Its raining today but I made a little progress on the roaster. Still need to mount the bt probe and drill a few cable management holes, but I'm happier with my screen fitting.

>tfw no EK43 bf

>>14031527
Added 17g water to 283g green coffee, shook it up and let it sit on the counter in a plastic container over night.

>>14031527
>>14032745
I do have an extra 69% boveda in the humidor so I might try that, but it's simple enough just using the water directly. Would probably take a few days or more with a boveda, considering the amount of water it takes.

>>14030438
>>14030533
>Not just spending a bit extra

>>14028613
>didn't buy it and now it's gone

Is there any benefit to a fancy expensive grinder if I'm just making drip coffee with beans from the grocery store?

>>14032807
Bodum bistro goes on sale sometimes for like 60 bucks

That capresso is OK, but not quite as good.

>>14032762
I've only got a tiny 72% cigarhustler shipped with my last order. I moved on to heartfelt beads after boveda shipped me a case of mislabeled 65s.

In other news my ekg gets here tomorrow, lunar shipped, and I got my yuunan sourcing order. Nakedportafilters has yet to send me a way to pay for the SEprofiler, but I "ordered" it. Hopefully kruve ships the propels soon.

>>14032992
No. A $20 Hario off Amazon is perfectly good

>>14033134
How addicted are you?

>>14034005
~60g a week. I just like spending money.

>>14012931

Shitty Welhome grinder that clumps on blends, and the grind setting seems to be getting looser, used to jam my rok on 1.5 setting. Planning to upgrade to single dose.

Bump

>>14034445
what's the middle gizmo

That Kamira thingy in the last thread looks pretty nifty. I'm growing tired of my old moka pot and want a bit of an upgrade.

>>14035087
Rok espresso. Don't buy it if you don't want non-standard portafilter size (49 mm)

What's the closest thing to a ristretto at home without using an actual espresso/capsule machine

>>14035359
Since I'm tired of my moka pot, I went and looked this up. It looks like a cool idea, but there are many reviews saying that the valve goes bad and it either can't build pressure, or it exploded. I think I'm gonna pass on this

Just bought this shirt for my wife's birthday. Etsy makes shopping so easy. Just find something handmade that is relate to your loved one's interests and press buy.

>>14035824
fuck wrong shirt, i meant this one.

My local roaster fucking closed.

I'm struggling through some bad Starbucks because I ran out of the good beans. French press medium ground is about as good as you can get it but it still tastes like stomach acid

>>14035824
+ 1000 basic bitch

>>14035824
wtf do you mean by makes shopping easy

>>14035740
Thing is, I'm looking at the photos of the defective units (as posted in the Amazon reviews) and the safety valve on the exploded ones looks different from the one on the current model (the current one looks like a regular Bialetti-style valve).

I buy my coffee from Amazon pre-ground. Is that bad?

>>14030978
AHHHHHH NOW IT TASTE LIKE PAPER TOWEL FUCKCKKCK !!!

>>14031311
You can't really get microfoam without a steam wand. If you have a French press you can put the heated milk here and get a nice foam though.

Is the Bee House dripper significantly easier to pour than V60 or Kalita Wave?

>>14033250
Kek. No

>>14036313
Yes.

>>14036351
v60 + coffee sock. Under $20 for both.

>>14036443
A bit yeah. Go for the single hole bonmac if you want easy repeatability.

>>14036695
>bonmac
>1 hole

Isn't that just Melitta?

>>14036990
Takes the same filters. It's pretty much the bee house just with 1 hole.

>>14036443
>You know you want the super easy setup of Oxo's pourover

store-brand instant
nice, boiling water from my plastic/metal kettle
eye-ball it, put an ice cube in it

>>14032992
You will see the most benefit buying better beans

>>14020426
I'm with you anon, I think there's just a general preference for strong coffee, but that isn't the only way to drink it.

I like my coffee at tea strength, well balanced and well extracted.

I've been getting takeaway coffee almost every day, it's nice. It almost makes me want to get my own machine or something but I can't really be bothered and I don't know if I'd take advantage of it that much. Machine because I need my steamed milkies

>>14006748
Drinking my uncle's cheap shitty coffee rn just because it's quick and easy.

>>14016583
I work as a barista and I've asked our regulars who order it extra hot what their reasoning is. They've all told me it's because they like to slowly sip it over time and giving it to them so hot makes it last longer

I put finely ground coffee into my portafilter and it pours water out of it. Like straight water out of the portafilter. It goes through the coffee but its clear as glass. This happens even after I descaled it

>>14012931
it's a plastic piece of shit

>>14031356
are you literally retarded? this is like asking why aren't pipes square

>signs that a coffee shop is serving bad coffee

>>14041179
Sounds like your machine isn't building pressure

>>14040917
Getting it from the store is much easier but brewing it yourself is much cheaper. I used to just get drip brews but even then it was stronger than homemade. I got used to the weaker strength and it's easier in that you just throw away the cup and that's it whereas with homemade you have to throw away the grounds, wash the pot and wipe up the counters. I still have a preference for homemade though since I used to get bad vibes at Starbuck's and I can make a fresh pot whenever I want. It's also $0.75 per cup instead of $2.00 so I can also have a lot more.

>>14038519
>Oxo
>Unfortunately, all of our testers thought the coffee it produced was weak and under-extracted.

>>14041184
Rebuilt my engine with square pistons.

>>14042417
Bad review because they didn't make the grind finer. Seriously, this is retarded.

>>14042417
That's retarded. Pourover is just a funnel and a filter

im so tired of folgers. what are some decent coffees i can buy online?

>bought V60
>bought stainless electric gooseneck kettle
>coffee tastes great
>having to fucking descale the kettle every other day because rust keeps trying to form in random places
I mean I'm all about loading up on extra iron in the diet but to think that eventually a critical part of this thing might rust and make a hole/cause something to fall off is kind of annoying.

>>14043953
>rust
>descale
Uhhh
The descaling is likely causing rust.

>>14044024
Not sure what other alternatives exist then. A noticeable very brown, small rust spot formed in the side walls of the thing after just one day of use. There's no telling how long this piece of shit will last.

>>14043953
>>14044040
Scale is mineral buildup from the water. Rust is corrosion.

>>14044040
Sounds like you bought a shitty kettle.

>>14044040
Let some scale build up. Also, what kind of stainless steel rusts?

>>14044249
How is your $200 kettle treating you?

>>14044630
Almost sprung for the walnut handles. Things great, had to turn off the hour temp hold though. Makes my lights sliiiiightly pulse.

>>14044440
Shitty chinese stainless, apparently. I'm really sad that there's pretty much no way to tell if you're getting something good or shit no matter who or where you buy it from.

>>14044766
Literally the reason I went Fellow over the bonavita temp control kettle. Tons of neg amazon reviews about rust developing on the welds.

>Material: 304 stainless steel kettle body and lid, plastic base.

>>14044861
Yeah, the bonavita has some issues. Had to send a base back after a week. Had a few of them have issues reading the temperature fairly often. The welds are trash. Mine at home still gets the job done most of the time after 5 years though

>what are you drinking
Gevalia Mocha Latte, I'm not a big coffee snob so it's just something I can make in my Keurig.
>do you like it
Yeah, what comes in the box makes it sweet enough for me to just take it and go
>getting anymore
I'll get another cup around 7ish before my final

>>14046596
Gevalia was one of the better tasting coffee from my keurig days.

>>14046887
their grounds are my go to, especially the Espresso Roast

>>14006748
I gave up coffee for Lent, then Corona happened, so I haven't been to a coffee shops in months. Just sip 1 tea in the morning. 20 cent per bag tea >>>>>> $3-5 at local coffee shop 30 days a month

how do i enjoy coffee? every time i've tried coffee, it's just tasted chemically(?) and bitter with the intended flavor only being a vague sensation in my mouth
is there a gene that prevents me from enjoying coffee? if it helps, i actually quite like teas, including black teas.
>inb4 just get good grounds bro
ive found that i could hardly tell between grounds; also theres a chance i've just been french pressing entirely wrong

>>14047457
>tasted chemically
Maybe just go to the local Starbucks when they reopen, and try a few of their coffees to see if you like any of them? An espresso-based drink can be expensive, but a large cup of brewed coffee can be had for about $2.

>>14047778
Bad idea. Anything at starbucks is going to be over roasted and brewed badly.

>>14047782
disagree. their blonde roast is pretty solid. also can get espresso drinks with blonde espresso shots -- much better than regular espresso

>>14048057
Their blonde roast is OK, I agree. But they typically brew it poorly. Their espresso is always total trash.

Has anyone ever made the breaking bad coffee machine? Was it actually a sound concept on the perfect cup of coffee?

>>14048065
you're right they ALWAYS fuck it up when they do blonde pour-overs (idk why?). but blonde if it's ready on drip is good -- or just get an americano with blonde shots

>>14048145
It's basically what Funranium Labs has been doing with their Black Blood of the Earth coffee extract for decades now.

>>14006748
Cafe bustello is the superior coffee and you cant convince me otherwise

>>14048315
Often times their drip is brewed badly as well. And their blonde espresso is better than their usual, but it is still bottom tier. It's shocking to me the lack of quality control that starbucks has. It's nonexistent.

Your opinion on the Origami dripper?

>>14048613
hard to make it level, provides no advantage over something like the wave, april brewer, blue bottle dripper, stagg dripper etc

*makes baristas obsolete*

>>14047778
i'm surprised i'm being reccomended starbucks

>>14050743
By the same people who tell you hario skerton's are the pinnacle of grinding.

>>14050817
no idea what hario skerton is, first time ive ever posted in ctg
i barely know anything about coffee actually lol, its just like put bean in hot water

Turn on CC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I42nXIqsOQ

here i thought coffee is all the same, but this one taste like booze

>>14049807
Is that a new version of a chemex?

>>14052720
Bailey's Irish Cream has whisky in it dumbass

>>14053412
Yep. The Funnex.

>COFFEE IS FRICKIN AWESOME! ARE YOU EVEN AN ADULT IF YOU DON'T DRINK COFFEE?

>>14053561
so brave

My cheap Bodum french press broke. Should I buy another or try an aeropress? If I go the french press route again, is there a better brand at that price point or should I just go with what I know?

>>14054312
Ikea has a big cheap stainless one you're not going to break. If you feel like blowing money on something slightly different you're not going to break, I've heard good things about the fellow duo.

I like coffee like my women~ affogato. :P

I like coffee like my women~ affogato. :P

>>14054312
I broke my first two french press by stirring it with a metal spoon. Now I stir with a plastic chopstick... slowly.

>>14055599
How fucking hard did you stir?

>>14054312
Aeropress, I haven't used my french press since buying one

Anyone here enjoy Gween Tea?

>>14056030
Yes, but why are you affecting a twee speech impediment in text?

Love a good genmaicha from time to time.

>>14056010
Aeropress makes a better coffee than french press?

What's the consensus on milk frothing wands?

>>14057243
they're a bit queer if we're being honest

Coof

>>14057128
It makes different coffee.

Anyone here have an opinion on King's Coast coffee? When i first tried their yirgacheffe beans, you could smell the blueberry notes and i made a brew that came out fantastic, but as of the last dozen bags, i cant smell the notes and cant get them in brew. Whats the deal? Are ethiopian beans this variable?