/ck/ - Food & Cooking

who the fuck is this kevin branch guy they cut to for 5 seconds to say useless shit

>>13939288
>I love Alton but this feels so stilted in its imitation of Japanese game shows, and I haven't even SEEN the original iron chef
What is this? 1992? Deja vu

Since you missed it, the original Iron Chef was weirdly, oddly, campy. It was like those extreme obstacle course shows where people slipped off rolling logs greased down, into the water, doing a dangerous split busting their head at the same time and people laughing and commentating with stupid exclamations!
That's what Iron Chef was. Why was it better? It was hilarious, but there were judges that were so freaking intense about the aromas, and flavors, and you got this thought that maybe they had only once in their life eaten these rare things.

>>13939288
Because it lacks the seriousness and presentation of the original. Yes it was campy, but they wanted to win and the commentators and judges usually had interesting insights to what they were cooking and why it was impressive. Remember: they used it to help teach students as well and entertain.

Plus they'll never be able to match that charming odditiy that Takeshi Kaga put into his role.

>>13939341
I think the american chairman is the most off putting part, he feels like a trophy jap

the original iron chef had the budget of a small country
it was also wild that there wasn't a dish count requirement so you'd get some guy making 2 dishes and some other guy making 7
none of the american chefs have the charm of hiroyuki sakai either

>>13939320
I'll def check out the original then, hopefully it's this but feels more natural. shame I won't get Alton's commentary though

>>13939377
The original is definitely worth seeking out.

>>13939377
Well aren't you in luck. Also I love Alton, but his commentary is shit in comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71KYuHBz7u0&list=PLaQc4YXhlTa9mhSJ3aBeoFo92O6Klrgdz

I think one of the huge differences is that the American version is very wink wink nudge nudge about their campiness. Like haha we're pretty goofy too right??? Meanwhile the Jap version rolled with it the whole way. It was extremely over the top dramatic from beginning to end and you could sort of believe it was an actual battle between rival chefs and not just a TV show. Also Hans Zimmer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJa_zqdY3UQ

the original Iron Chef is just pure fucking kino, trying to emulate it is silly, you'll never be able to recreate that.

>>13939485
I don't think that's true, but you definitely can't do it with the mentality that most network executives have. The show is first and foremost about the drama of competition; most executives are used to editing in fake drama in reality TV and have no idea how to present the genuine article. You see the same problem in FOX's abortions with Gordon Ramsay.

Here's a link to almost all the original iron chef episodes, dub included for most, but not all.
http://www.ironcheffans.info/

>>13939288

I love Iron Chef. I remember watching the OG series with my extended family. We all thought it was amazing watching top chefs go at it.

It's a silly show, but it feels like the "toughest" of the cooking show competitions.

>>13939415
pretty kino

>>13939415
>only 155 episodes
There are over 300 episodes if you include specials and the rebooted episodes from 2012/13

I have ~250 episodes from season 1-7 of the OG series.

>>13939288
As usual, the American television execs decided to be retarded and thought that they had to change up the format to make it appeal to American audiences more, even though the original was already wildly popular. So they made it more like every other shitty reality show, with cutaway interviews and unlikeable characters.
They also gimped the quality of the commentary by making Alton do all of it, rather than have a play by play commentator, color commentator, and guests like the original. Having more perspectives about the food was interesting, and the sports commentator gave more time for the color commentator Hattori to think and say useful things.
The chairman was garbage. He was a bad actor and tried way too hard to be a zany Jap guy and it’s just cringe
Finally, the quality of chefs on the original was obviously worlds better. They managed to consistently get people who were at the top of their field. In America, they got more garbage celebrity chefs like Bobby Flay and then held contest shows to pick new Iron Chefs. The lower quality of chefs, combined with the shitty reality TV vibe, meant that nobody, including the challengers and audience, took it nearly as seriously as the original was taken. That made the show less exciting to watch and turned it into kind of a joke that chefs who really were at the top of their game generally didn’t want to be seen on, unlike in Japan where competing on the show was really taken seriously and seen as a badge of honor, leading to really good chefs competing on almost every episode.

>>13939509
>>13942039
That site no longer hosts videos. Neither does any other on the internet, as far as I can tell, except for some shitty rips on jewtube. I can’t even find a torrent anywhere. Would one of you kind anons know of anywhere it’s still available? Or maybe put up a download of your collection?

>>13942152
I should do this eventually. I didn't nab their whole collection before they went offline, but I do have 197 episodes, and 170+ are in English with only a couple of dozen in Japanese with subtitles...

>>13942152
>I can’t even find a torrent anywhere
cause you're not looking in the right places

>>13942165
To be fair, it's not exactly commonplace for someone to be on one of the most exclusive websites for TV torrents in the world. There are less than ~35,000 members of that site and getting in is a pain in the ass.

>>13939367
Did he seem like that in John Wick 3?

>>13942165
Please share your secrets shishou

>>13942164
Please do it sempai, I’ll suck your dick

>>13942165
Not really helpful but thanks

KWE SAN
the challenger has added pealed prawn, lemon juice, and cabbage into this blender

>>13943891
He’s saying Fukui-san

>>13944021
Thank you, floor-reporter Ohta. Now let's go back over to the Iron Chef and see... oh, what's he working on here? Doc, can you make out what that is?

>>13944021
learn something new everyday, thanks anon-san

BROTH OF VIGOR

>>13942487
He was strange but it was ok

>>13939288
Why haven't you? That's the real question. There's a twitch of re-runs of the old one. Go look for that and waste a couple hours of your life. You'll have zero regrets.

>>13943713
Get invited to BTN (https://broadcasthe.net/))
Which is an insanely difficult process.

He's not wrong though, Iron chef is on there.

>>13944464
Domo

>>13944464
Do you have access already?
Would you be willing to seed a public torrent so us plebs can all share in Iron Chef’s glory?

>>13939415
What the fuck is this reddit shit?

>>13945421
What in the actual fuck are you on about?