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>>13893821
No, it’s better. Drink about ten bottles and you’ll prefer it.

>>13893821
not nasty, but it's cheap for a reason so not something you drink on ice

>>13893821
Evan williams gets the job done if you know what I mean.

>>13893830
>>13893847
>>13893852
a friend of a friend said pic realted was the best cheap whiskey but im too chicken to try it

>>13893875
my grandpa liked this stuff on special occasions. but we're canadian and he was a heavy drinker. A half pint of lambs and some kind of cola will set you straight if it's cheap where you live too...I always preferred Canadian whiskey or rum myself tho, nice and syrupy.

>>13893821
It’s worse. Trust me. EW 6 years ago was better. But formula changed.

>>13893821
it's far better than beam

>>13893889
You know, I thought that something was different about it the last time I had it. I used to drink it all the time from like 2012 until like 2015ish when I started getting more into other whiskeys. It's a real shame too, used to love Evan Williams, guess I'll stick to Knob Creek from now on.

>>13893875
I have had cheaper and better.
I don't even buy Ballantine's when it's on sale for the same price as the bottomshelf rotgut.

>>13894104
just get single barrel EW.

>>13894113
Easier said than done. I've only seen Single Barrel EW at one liquor store and that was quite some time ago. I know the one nearest me probably doesn't carry it.

>>13893821
It's pretty great whiskey, it's me and my friends favorite drink. If I had more money, I'd get scotch in the end, but the bourbon there is really great.

Built up a tolerance fast, cause we'd watch gangster movies, having started with Goodfellas. It was great. The genre ended with Heat, but didn't finish that, nor Casino, due to the guys being so pussywhipped. it's started being infuriating how these powerful men take their girls shit and eat it.

Now it's on to war movies, starting with Full Metal Jacket once this crisis ends

>>13894133
Those are some long movies, but all pretty good. I just watched Goodfellas myself, one of my favorites

>>13894133
teenage post

>>13893821
It's unironically better than Beam for a way better price point. JB is nasty, don't buy it just because of brand recognition.

>>13894133
>Casino
To be fair, the whole point was that Ace was kinda pathetic, and a definite cuck/simp/whatever buzzword you wanna use. By the end of the movie he's pretty much back to square one, with literally all his time in Vegas having been a waste. The unraveling or end of every characters' life is just as important to it as the decadence and badass mafia shit in the first half is.

Good taste for the most part either way, though, and I definitely agree with your choice of whiskey.

Just get mellow corn. It's sweet, cheap AF, and not technically bourbon, but it's the best drunk per $.

>>13893821
Get the BIB Evan Williams. Definitely worth the few extra bucks. Personally, I’d step it up even slightly more & get WT 101.

For me its Old Crow

>>13893821
jim beam black is one of the best bang for back bourbons

>>13894498
My friend that I used to drink with switched to Old Crow. Pretty good stuff desu.

>>13894441
I tried finding Mellow Corn in my area and couldn't. Sucks, I would love to try it given that I tend to like liquor with high corn bills.

>>13894451
Wild Turkey 101 is all I buy these days.

Evan Williams 1783 is best Evan Williams. A little more money, but a whole lot better product. I've got it on good authority that some places fill up the more expensive whiskeys with EW1783.

Few are discerning enough to tell. I think the average drinker perceives smoothness more than anything. Wine, beer, liquor...doesn't matter what it is -- if it has "heat" and reminds one of paint thinner, then it will be rated lower. Expensive whiskeys are a meme because whatever flavor profiles they may have are completely irrelevant to most people's tastes. The mid-tier whiskeys can hit that smoothness profile at an affordable price making anything else a "more money than brains" situation.

>>13893821
What kind of Beam have you been drinking? White label? Evan Williams is much better than white label Beam, and cheaper as you have discovered. For my tastes, EW isn't bad, but it's a little too sweet.

My daily drinker right now is Beam Double Barrelled. Smooth and delicious and economical. You have to like the Beam mash bill though.

>>13893821
Just buy some everclear and infuse it with something.

>>13893847
I like EW on the rocks. I mostly mix it with cola or vermouth instead of drinking it straight, but it's not terrible as a sipping whiskey either.

>>13893875
That tier of "whiskey" isn't even whiskey. It's neutral grain alcohol with caramel color and artificial flavors. Old Crow is the cheapest actual whiskey I've been able to find, and while it's not good by any stretch, it at least doesn't taste like nail polish remover mixed with 100 year old butterscotch discs.

In terms of a whiskey that's consistently fine, relatively reasonable in price, and can be found pretty much fucking anywhere, IMO Jim Beam.

>>13894782
Is it even legal to call a whisky "scotch" if you go the KD route? Feels like they have a few more restrictions. Now KD can use the word "whiskey", but they can't call it a bourbon. Blended seems the best they're legally able to do. As well as slapped Kentucky on it. The bottle in that post does say blended too, but I feel like Scotland wouldn't let cheap tiers use the word scotch. Unless it was actually 100%, and not "scotch" where 75% of it is neutral grain spirits.

Pure devil juice. On several occasions, after arriving at a party to find it deep in the throws of utter debauchery, I asked myself "wtf is going on in this house". After looking around at the faces of sluttified "good girls", mongrelized normal guys and concerned hosts I would then notice the empty gallon of Evan Williams.

Every fuckin time.

>>13894802
Technically, it must contain at least some malt whisky and all the spirits must be aged 3 years (including the the grain whisky ie the neutral grain spirit) in order to be called scotch whisky. The majority of blends are pretty bad though and probably dont contain that much malt whisky. Doing a side by side tasting of a blend and the same blend made in the 80s is particularly illuminating. Scotch was at low point then (as opposed to the boom we have now) and you can tell they were putting much better whisky into blends in order to win over customers. Single malts also weren't as much of a thing so there was more good whisky to put into blends (instead of bottling them as single malts).

>tldr; blends are basically a dead category if your an enthusiast for a variety of reasons. Notable exception is the great king street blends which are excellent (and fully disclose the amount of grain whisky in them on their website)

>>13894912
Feels like a lot of alcohols have recently been picking up the last couple of decades. Would be interesting to try a bottle of alcohol from the 80s, but that probably requires some luck and money.

>>13894919
Definately man. If you get a chance to try an old blend jump on it. My friend brought back a bottle of 80s Johnny Walker black from Taiwan and it was awesome. Night and day between it and the modern stuff. Put jw green, double black, and a whole lot of shitty single malts to shame too. I can really see where it got its reputation. That being said try the king street blends if you can find them. Great whisky that I'd put against any single malts in the price range (well at least where I live). There still about half grain whisky but GOOD grain that has been aged for an appropriate amount of time and actually contributes to the flavour. They are made by compass box who started about with niche grain blends and really know how to blend grains. No age statement but non chill filtered and no colouring added iirc. Closest thing I've had to an old school blend.

>>13894451
WT 101 is excellent for the price point, taste, and ABV. It's the pinnacle of midshelf sipping whisky imo

>>13895272
You are spot on, I actually use it as a reference point as to what is good and what is bad.

It’s just the hallmark of American Bourbon through and through.

I’m drinking Pikesville 6yr straight Rye now, my next bottle is going to be Old Ezra 7yr Barrel Proof Straight Bourbon.

>>13893821
My dad and grandfather are both high-functioning alcoholics, and this is their drink of choice, it's cheap, the bottles are big, and it's great for mixing, not a fan of alcohol myself, but I trust their recommendation

I personally prefer it and it's usually cheaper by a dollar or two. Jim beam is the worst bourbon.
If you're going to get bourbon at least get Wild Turkey though imo.

>>13895272
>It’s just the hallmark of American Bourbon through and through.
I started drinking that years ago when I heard that it was Hunter Thompson's preferred drink. Great stuff. Ice makes it better.

>>13893821
what's the worst whiskey drunk youve been anons?

mine was a few weeks ago, cut to ~24 hours of no food so an empty stomach and polishing a fifth of Heaven Hill with Milo's Sweet Tea mixed in all night...woke up on my couch the next morning and didn't feel right until the day following that

>>13893821
*blocks your path*

>>13896068
OP here
Canadian whisky seems to me to be the best mixing whiskey because its so light in color and flavor. Seagrams VO and water was my go to for years.
>>13894451
>>13894737
>>13895272

For those suggesting WT 101...I like that stuff, but it's comparable in price to jack in my town, which is to say more than double in price.

Beam is $20 a handle and turkey and jack are like $45.
Also, I think scotch should really not be in this convo, but w/e
scotch is like a different drink all together imho


how about pic related compared to beam guys?

>>13893821

It's really not that bad. I've found that it mixes just as well, if not better, into simple cocktails (ie whiskey cokes) than Beam.

>>13897211
drank like 9 shots in two hours last week, lost my guts but hey in my town it's 30 dollars a handle (1.75L bottle). haven't drank since but it tastes great for the price

>>13894263
so what? it made me fondly remember when i was a teenager and still had pals to drink and do chill stuff like that with. now no one has the time. and i'm the only one that still drinks evan williams LMAO.

>>13898647
i know this feel anon
i miss my friends they're all supporting some bitch now and a couple of rug rats no time to chill/drink/smoke/trip/concert/movie/bar hop/etc.
feels band man

>>13896014
was at a keg party last year and the fuckers did Angry orchard for the keg. I drank about 4 cups of orchard and a 375ml bottle of bulleit bourbon and felt like utter trash the full day after. Also passed out at 11 the night of. Still didn't puke though.

>>13896014
Lmao, that's one of the worst things you could mix it with.

>>13898835
Wow, did you go to a high schooler's keg party? No offense, just asking. I can't believe anyone would want to drink that much angry orchard, holy fuck.

>>13893821
Evan Williams and ginger ale. Thank me later.

>>13898851
OP here
yeah i drink my beam with pic related when i dont want my beam neat.
its pricey for soda, but its really worth it
>inb4 you spend a lot on soda to cover up your shit taste in bourbon

ha yeah i guess its true

>>13895995
>I started drinking that years ago when I heard that it was Hunter Thompson's preferred drink.
Pretty sure that's Chivas Regal

>>13893821
If you are trying to get drunk on a budget, then Evan Williams is the go to for cheap whiskey. For a couple bucks more I think Rebel Yell is a little bit smoother, but also a tad less strong. Basically if you are saving some money and want to give it a dash of whatever soda you like it will get you by.

>>13898850
Nope, Endicott LMAO. Rich preppy private college. I pushed for my friend to get anything else but i guess the majority of people who contributed wanted angry orchard.

>>13898941
this brand of tonic is ideal for G&Ts, gotta say

>>13897211
Old Grand-Dad is a completely different kind of bourbon from Beam. It's very rye-heavy so it's quite spicy and not for everyone.
Old Grand-Dad 114 is a flavor bomb for a reasonable price.

>>13896014
Heaven Hill is 80% neutral grain spirits and only 20% blended whiskey. It's not really whiskey, even though it's grouped with the whiskey in the section of most liquor stores.

>>13894802
>but they can't call it a bourbon
A nip can sell a chink literal piss and according to American law, it's still bourbon because it was made for export.

>>13894940
I think any blend tastes better after a decades long marriage period and oxidation in the bottle.

>>13893821
Depends on which Beam line you're talking about.
EW BiB is pretty much better then standard Beam lineup, however Knob Creek is a lot better then EW in my opinion but not as good as the high end stuff that Heaven Hill makes (Elijah Craig, William Heavenhill, Old Fitzgerald).
Booker's used to be amazing but now it's way too young stocks and the quality has dropped. Little Book is pretty solid but too expensive. Bookers Rye I hear is supposed to be fucking amazing but it's impossible to find one for under $1000 because of secondary kikes.

>>13894782
>That tier of "whiskey" isn't even whiskey. It's neutral grain alcohol with caramel color and artificial flavors

patently false

If I don't drink bourbon but want to use it for cooking, what's a good one to use?

>>13900106
Evan williams?

It’s cheap and has a plastic screw off cap. It doesn’t pack alot of flavor but the flavor it does have is completely agreeable. It does pack some tasty heat after the fact but it never burns. I find absolutely nothing harsh in it what so ever. Is it the best? No. Is it completely decent whiskey costing a fraction of the price for other stuff? Yep. Not a damn thing wrong with this whiskey and not a damn thing not to like about it.