/ck/ - Food & Cooking

But the part that really struck a chord with a lot of viewers was the decision to force all students to eat the fish. Most of them agreed to do it, so the rest were forced to submit to the will of the majority. This decision led to some heartbreaking scenes, like children struggling to eat the fish with tears flowing down their faces.

“What are you doing to these children?” one horrified viewer commented on Twitter.

“Shouldn’t you also acknowledge the will of the weaker minority groups?” someone else asked.

According to Yahoo News, these special classes have been held at elementary schools in Tokyo and Shibuya Ward for two years, but this recent controversial segment put them into the spotlight.

The Nippon Foundation, which reportedly hosts this project at seven elementary schools nationwide fought back against the criticism, claiming that because of growing environmental problems like global warming and over-fishing, engaging in a serious discussion about the value of fish as a food from a young age is very important.

“As the sea environment worsens due to global warming and over-fishing, efforts are being made to learn and think about environmental issues through the ‘life’ of fish raised by children,” a Nippon Foundation statement on the recent scandal reads.

The Class of Life has its share of detractors in Japan, but many children and teachers who take part in it claim that life itself can be cruel, and that the best way to show you respect food is to eat and not waste it. The question of whether elementary students should take part in such a project is up in the air though…

>>13870948
There's a story about Salvador Dali rescuing a bunny in the woods of whatever; he brought it home, took care of it and it grew. Once they needed to travel to America for a long time and their staff was going to travel with them, so his wife Gala said to majordomo "¡Manãna, estofado de conejo!", which basically means "tomorrow, rabbit stew."

Some people take offense to that.

Good lesson. I wish I had something like this growing up. Fortunately I had my dad and grandad.

Pathetic.
They're fish, for heaven's sake.
I could understand getting attached to a dog or a rabbit, but you can't cuddle a fish and it can't show you affection.

>>13870970
Careful what you wish for. You would probably have become vegan today if you had that experience in your psyche.

>>13870974
>but you can't cuddle a fish
No, but you can do other things.

>>13870974
Have you ever meet a child? Kids aren’t exactly known for their rational thinking and stoic demeanor

>>13871009
yea the kids whos parents never teach them shit about food are bound to be morons

>>13871009
Not only have I met them, I used to be one.
Killed and butchered my first rabbit when I was ten. Made a handpuppet from the pelt with the head still on it.

>>13871049
You did not raise that rabbit from a baby as a pet. Do not lie and say you did.

>>13871051
We did have rabbits that we raised and ate, but my first one with at a boyscouts camp and not one I "knew".
Again, though. You can't bond with a fish the way you can with a rabbit.

>>13871009
This. Children are stupid as always. They talk to dolls like it's a real being.

>>13871049
So you’re basing your criticism of these kids, who clearly live and grew up in a completely different environment than you, off of anecdotes from your childhood? Good to know
Sorry for not considering that everyone in the world should think and act as you do since you’re clearly the benchmark for any and all reactions from a human

>>13871095
No I am also a young Japanese school child

>>13871095
>who clearly live and grew up in a completely different environment than you
A weak environment for weak people. Glad classes like these exist to harden these little bitches up.

Fuck you limp-wristed pansies who eat a steak from the grocery store but get upset when you see a cow slaughtered.

Just like how some soldiers had PTSD after a war and some thought shooting people was the best and most exiting moment of their lives, some children cried over eating their pet fisch and some didn't.

Let's not pretend that everyone reacts to stimuli the same way.

>>13871095
No, I am, for the third time now, basing my opinion off [of] the fact that you can't connect with a fish the way you can with a fluffy bunny or puppy.
And it is just my opinion. What else could it be?

it's a pretty good life lesson though
the meat you eat has to come from somewhere and it's good to know how it came to be

>>13871148
It is your right to say it, but it is also my right to run up and say “u dum”

>>13871153
But the meat you eat has no emotional value, This project just forces emotion into something you're naturally not supposed to have.

Do the kids know they are raising the animals for food?

>>13870950
>life itself can be cruel, and that the best way to show you respect food is to eat and not waste it
Exactly my thoughts, these are important life lessons on where your food comes from and adults wringing their hands over this are crybabies.

Yeah I totally agree, empathy is for fucking pussies. You need to teach these kids from a young age that attachments mean nothing. Living things can never be companions, they are put on this earth meant to be used and abused by you regardless of your feelings towards them. Your emotional feelings are worthless, and the only thing less valuable than your emotions that is any life that isn't your own.
After all life is cruel, so what does it matter if I add to that cruelty? Just sold my daughter's organs gonna use the money to buy a nice meal, yeah I loved her but my feelings of love and respect for her are far less than important than the physical value she could add to my well being and she was at her peak, primed, and ready for slaughter. It's no big deal, life ain't all roses and fun times after all, my betrayal was a good lesson for her young mind.

>>13870998
Nah. I cried over tons of shit as a child. It's healthy. Emotional fitness. They will all get over the trauma, but remember the lesson of the value of the food they eat.

>>13871170
u wot m8
the point is you're eating something that somebody somewhere raised

>>13871242
>but remember the lesson of the value of the food they eat.
Realistically, they'll forget the feelings within a year and return to eating tasty fish without thinking twice.

Humans being able to forget and return to normalcy is healthy as well.

>>13871248
>the point is you're eating something that somebody somewhere raised
I don't raise every single beef and fish I eat. The kids cried because they personally raised the fish they ate. It's nothing alike to reality and sends an inaccurate and pointless message.

Forced emotions.

>>13871122
Based 50 iq poster

>>13871260
the lesson is to value the effort that went into your food and to not take it for granted

>>13871248
>eating farmed fish

>>13871268
Wow I'm so glad that we can expect kids to be introspective and not expect them to be traumatized by a needlessly contrived "lesson"

Every single person should at least raise chickens or grow crops. Nobody should live completely divorced from the land and their food.

>>13871252
Some kids will, sure, but not all of them. Smart kids will always be smart.

>>13871268
>value the effort
Looked like the project was trying to force emotions into the things they eat, not teach children to value the effort that comes into raising the meat.

The kids cried because of the cute little fishies they are eating, not because they were proud of their work in raising the fish.

Overall it was stupid.

>>13871285
>traumatized
This is how humanity operated since the dawn of civilization. Hunting, fishing, ranching, agriculture. Like I can understand not wanting to kill a person, but being unable to kill an animal is pathetic.

>>13871285

Trauma is educational.

>>13871307
Very much this. Kids get over what they consider trauma (which is still very real trauma, btw) very quickly. The feeling will subside long before the lesson is forgotten.

>>13870948
Seven is a little young, but it sounds like a really nice class for middle school.

>>13871307
>>13871315
My gripe is that this trauma didn't teach anything useful. You're not supposed to have emotions for mass produced meats.

>>13871153
>>13871268
The meat you eat not only hasn't been raised by yourself personally, it hasn't been raised by anyone "personally". There were no tears spilled by anyone over the tuna at the store, no times of happiness spent bonding with it, not by you or even the people who sold it.
It's pointless. There's no way you would get some lesson about not wasting food from this. At best you will learn to feel nothing the next time you have to kill your fishy friend to eat it (cause this is an occurrence that happens in most people lives that totally needed to be prepared for, yeah right), and at worst it'll traumatize the more empathetic kids from wanting to eat any fish ever again.

>>13871347
The point is people put effort in either raising or catching whatever you eat. People have literally died at sea doing what they can to get fish to your table.
You sound like a city faggot who never had to struggle for anything.

>>13871362
Are you fucking stupid? You really that much of a dumb retard that you can't see that the two things aren't equatabe at all. What you're talking about has NOTHING to do with the classroom project. Your NPC smoothbrain is attacking some gay generic strawman about thos darnd cityslickers that you've conditioned yourself for, when that has nothing to do with what's being discussed here.

Grandmother had me cut a chickens throat at 8. Great but hard life lesson in learning the true value of food. I would add growing a vegetable in the curriculum personally.

>>13871307
>>13871306
Yes, because every butcher and farmhand in the country must suffer a requisite amount of trauma before they're allowed in the industry. Newsflash: you don't need to be beaten as a child to gain some emotional stability. While trauma might be educational, you don't always get the right lessons.

I find this mindset fucking astonishing, especially considering how degenerate and morally bankrupt the Chinese have proven themselves to be. And you want to encourage more of this shit in other parts of the world?

>>13871170
>you're naturally not supposed to have.
Generally speaking you raise your own animals to butcher them

>>13870948
>agricultural high-school
Well no shit then
Dumbass city people whinging about this
>>13870998
>You would probably have become vegan today if you had that experience in your psyche.
Yeah that's why all the kids that grew up on farms for millenia of human history and ate animals they raised went vegan right?
It's not traumatizing unless you're already a pussy even for an 8 year old.

>>13870948
They should do it with rabbits or calves instead

>>13871436
Butchering a cow in front of the class would be pretty metal. I once watched a pig get butchered when I was a child and it was loud as fuck.

>>13871170
>>13871260
>>13871300
>>13871325
Why the fuck do you have so many pictures of frogs inside hamburger buns

>>13871547
Stop asking questions and find me more photos for my frogburger folder

>>13871547
I think the more pertinent question is 'why don't YOU have that many pictures of frogs in burger buns?'

>>13871562
Sorry, anon, all I have is anime girls inside burger buns.

>>13871565
I now have exactly as many as have been posted in this thread.

>>13871581
>I now have exactly as many as have been posted in this thread.
Fuck yeah.

>>13871565
I'm more of a hotdogman myself

>>13870948
>Chinese social media
>leaving most viewers in a state of shock
Bruh what? they burn cows alive, hang pigs from their noses, skin most animals without killing them first, they do a lot of other things on a daily basis I will not mention because it's not on topic, how the fuck are they shocked at this?

>>13871562
>>13871581
Why not both?

>>13871584
Also saved.

>>13871587
>Japan is China

>>13871601
Saved

>>13871617
What's your point? the article says Chinese people were shocked at this.

>>13871617
>I can't read

I don't remember where I heard this, but there's supposedly a military somewhere that does this thing with german shepherds.

>>13871077
the fuck is that body type?

Japan just be like that sometimes

>>13871601
I prefer photos

>>13871640
yours, apparently

>>13871645
>not a single passenger killed in a crash since they were launched in 1964

double checked this and was thoroughly impressed. we can learn a lot from the Japanese

>>13871640
Rippetoe’s dream

>>13871077
What the fuck is wrong with him?

>>13871823
fuck you

>>13871645
That reminds me of how I read the US marines makes recruits lie in bunkers at the gun range and change targets. That way they get used to the sound and feeling of being shot at.

>>13871900
That's not special, that's just what's done at large ranges. I did that at Bisley, a civilian range in the UK.

>>13870948
Based.

I'm not vegan, but people should be aware of the "dark side" of food if they are going to exercise the privilege of eating meat. Otherwise you get morons who are squicked out by touching a raw chicken breast or can't handle bones in deenz because it reminds them that what they were eating used to be alive and they can't handle the guilt.

>>13871943
I agree, but it should be made clear to the children at the very start that they will be eating the fish. I think it's unnecessarily cruel if you let them have the impression that this fish is a pet, and then spring the eating part on them out of nowhere.

>>13871955
Yeah. Agree 100%.

>>13871640
They call it the bowling pin

>>13870948
I think this is an important lesson, but the way they went about it is fucking retarded. I wouldn't want to kill and eat my dog, because I'm emotionally attached to it. Obviously, a fish and a dog aren't the same thing, but these kids are seven. Is anyone surprised that seven year olds are retarded and struggle with more abstract meanings about conciousness? If you eat meat you should be willing to kill animals, I would absolutely one hundred percent be willing to kill everything I've ever eaten. I don't just pretend that steaks don't come from cows, or rely on butchers as a coping mechanism, I fully understand the role that death and killing has in life. Wasting meat is rude, you should have a level of respect for all living things, and understand your place in the world.

This is emotionally manipulative as fuck though, when I was in elementary school we just hatched and raised chickens. They were sent back to the farm we got the eggs from, and became layers, then we ate the eggs that came from the chickens. This accomplishes pretty much the same, it's a very visceral experience that shows how life comes to be, how food is raised, the work that is put in by farmers, and how taking care of the chickens themselves gives you a beneficial product. There's no reason to make a seven year old face oblivion and expect them to react logically or learn in any objective way. It's hippy vegan bullshit, and again, I say that believing if you're not willing to kill the things you eat, you don't deserve to eat meat.

>>13872052
>but the way they went about it is fucking retarded
>"The Nippon Foundation"
>"global warming"
>"environmental issues"
Of course they're doing it a retarded way, it's just an another shady "foundation" running a fucking indoctrination camp targeting first-graders, trying to make them averse to eating meat through trauma.

>“Shouldn’t you also acknowledge the will of the weaker minority groups?” someone else asked.

what does this mean??

>>13871640
Peak male performance.

bump

This is what you get from urbanized people who get all their food from supermarkets.

People who keep chickens at home, fish in rivers or go to farmers' market seeing carcasses being cleaned don't bother with this shit.

>>13871077

Why is the censured version the only one these days? This guy had a massive dick

First time?

>>13872312
blue board senpai, why would shit not be censored?

bump

>>13872578
de-bump

>>13870948
Fucking liberals

>>13872306
that's not the same thing as being made to eat something you thought of as a pet, dummy

>>13871823
fell for the starting strength meme

>>13871238
based.

>>13871238
I thought you were sincere until the part about the daughter's organs and was about to report you for being underage b&.
>>13871306
There's a difference between killing an animal you aren't attached to and killing a pet. And even then, slaughterhouse workers who kill animals for a living are at extremely high risk from developing trauma-related mental health issues from it, including but not limited to PTSD.
People who act like they're tough for being unaffected by killing caught animals, or killing any animal, are such fags
>>13872052
It sounds like your school went about it the best way possible. I've heard of some programs that took kids to the local slaughterhouse, which probably has mixed value.

>>13871943
>can't handle bones in deenz
I can't handle bones in deenz because I almost died choking on a fishbone as a kid, not because of some moral grossery.

>>13871955
This is actually the way it should be done. From the sound of the article, that's what happened with the chicken, at least.

age

>>13870974
>you can't cuddle a fish
Yes you can

>>13870948
based

Babied ignorant urbanites are a plague upon the world and they should be forced to see just a smidgen of the natural order by their school.

>>13870948
Meh, this doesn't sound any different than a fisherman working at a fish hatchery. Don't emotionally connect with your food.

>>13870998
A lot of kids (especially girls) become vegetarian for a little while because it seems like the moral thing to do though. It rarely lasts though.

I'm from Texas and our FFA program made us raise and kill a chicken for our first semester.

>>13873120
Are you autistic? Who are you speaking to?
Somebody capable of critical thought? A working adult like you mentioned? Or a seven year old child?
If you suddenly pull a stuffed toy from a child, you aren't teaching them to not emotionally invest in stuffed toys. They just resent the absence of that outlet for an emotional connection. It's arbitrary trauma with zero educational benefit.

A child doesn't need to butcher their pet dog to know that it bleeds and is made of meat and bone.
They don't need to visit an abattoir to intellectually understand that animals are slaughtered en-masse to yield food for consumption.

A child can be presented food and educated where it comes from. They can even watch somebody professionally butcher an animal they have no association with.
But arbitrarily having the children raise pets without properly understanding what the curriculum has in mind for them, and killing them before their eyes has no outcome other than reinforcing childish notions of being upset when life isn't preserved.

>>13873256

>>13870948
Most of them don't seem to have a problem, it's just a couple girls crying. What a retarded overreaction from dumb gaijin

>>13873274
>dumb gaijin
reminder that you will never be a jap and are somehow even a step below one, go fuck yourself you worthless weeb

>>13873018
Whenever I interact with educated urban liberals I slowly begin to understand why Pol Pot marched everyone in Phnom Peng to the rice fields and killed all of the intelligentsia.

I think the kids should be a bit older, but I agree that this is an important lesson they need to learn.

those eye mosaics freak me out

>>13872316
damn look at those coconuts

bump

Nah, fuck the crybabies, this is the reality of life, and children should be taught it early on. Cows and chickens and all the things you eat were living things once and if you can't handle that eat a fucking rock.

>>13871347
It teaches you that the food you're eating was once a living being. I know you liberal edgelords want everything dehumanized, but respecting life is an important lesson.

On one hand, it's good because they'll hopefully not grow up to be pussies
On the other hand, the entire program sounds like blatant veggiefaggots trying to discourage meat-eating.
Hopefully it blows up in their face.

>>13870948
This stuff needs to be done, it's important education, but wait until they're are like 10 or 12 and make sure they know that the animals they're raising are food, not pets.

>>13871587
China will take every possible opportunity to take a low blow at Japan, even though they are orders of magnitude worse.

>>13870948
>Giving a single fuck about a dumb fish.
What little bitches.

>>13870974
Not the point here. You raised something with the intent of looking after it, not with the intent of eating it. Typical soulless slants, at least they don't blowtorch dogs in Japan.

>>13874035
How do you know that, though? Did you take the fucking class? Nowhere in any of the OP post does it say that they weren't told flat-out from the beginning they would be eating them at the end of the semester or whatever, but every one of you faggots in the fucking thread keeps strawmanning that

>>13874052
Why else would it be controversial you absolute brainlet LMAO

>>13871238
Thats why you fucking asians are considered soulless, bug eyes ant people with the minds of an insect.

>>13870948
"SHUT UP, EATTO FISHU!"

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>>13871628
why would chinese people be shocked by animal cruelty kek.

>>13874972
This

>>13870998
I did as well, killed fish and gutted it an an early age. Great way to start life by ending an other, great lesson in the value we put in food. Veganism is just a social.construct meant to harbor people who are too mentally weak, quintessentially restricting their own nature and eventual diet. If you are vegan, you have mental problems and could be the result of a malnourished diet.

>>13874972
They mean the upper elite chinese, the ones with pets and westernized lifestyles, not the basic peasant eating stray dogs on the daily.

>>13874972
There's a huge propaganda push thanks to this virus nonsense to try and pretend that China has never ever eaten wild food or had animals butchered before selling and that only filthy foreigners would think to do so.

>>13871640
>>13871823

>>13871122
This. These little crybabies must learn the consequences of their actions. Now they see what must be done to prepare a succulent meal.

>>13871671
Always on time too yeah?

>>13870948
>>13870950
Sounds like an interesting project, it is a great idea to show to children how and where their food comes from. However, I would state that I personally doubt of how many farmers do kill, dress and eat their own animals, I don't have numbers to say most don't although we know most animals are sold for industrial processing. I know people who had animals for their own consumption and even they wouldn't do the killing and dressing themselves.

So to force them to do this, seems to be somewhat self punishing for someone's pleasure.
>inb4 you eat animals everyday

Its one thing entirely if you have to kill and process the animal yourself for your own consumption, I wonder how many farmers would actually be able to do that themselves if they had to.

>>13870948
this is redpilled. I remember when I was child we had pigs which was very fortunate for us in those times. I had a favorite piglet I named misha, my father warned me to not name animals who will be eaten but i didn't care. I gave him special treatment, fed him the best food and gave him rubs, he grew into the fattest biggest pig we had and my father was very proud that i could raise such a good pig. then grandmother died and there was to be a feast at the funeral.

Father said it had to be misha that was served because any less would be disgrace. I cried and cried and he offered to do the deed but I said no dad, I am strong. I killed and butchered him. Everyone complimented the feast and we had a great time and he was the most delicious pork I ever ate in my whole life.

children need to learn this lesson.

>>13876372
your father was not teaching you a lesson he was neglecting being a parent he should have kept you from babying that pig

>>13876372
cuck.

>>13870950
"Shouldn't you acknowledge the will of weaker minority groups?"

hahahahaha NO
EAT THE FISH
Stupid idpolers

>>13871547
This. >>13871562 Every post of a frog in a burger is one more picture of a frog in a burger that I save.

>>13871645
>>13870948
Man, westerners have so much to learn from Japan. We could be years ahead in terms of our tech and research if we stopped being such pansies about everything.

>>13876380
no, i resisted, he told me how to avoid pain but i thought i was smarter than him at 8 years old. he offered easy way out and i rejected it, so i took hard way and learned the hard way.

>>13871275
Every god damn day

>>13876906
HE HATES IT!

How were they forced to eat the fish?

>>13876798
i assume youre older now, say you lived in a farm, and had a son, eight years old, and you saw him everyday with the pig pettin and loving on him like it was a pet and you knew what destiny the pig would have, would you not keep your child from making that attachment? you were a child, you were 8 years old, you could be told things till you were blue in the face, you didn't think you were smarter, you were 8, you were just a child. you were a very unsupervised child, you shouldn't have been allowed to make that attachment.

>>13876372
>>13876798
Okay surely you can see how that is different from kids being forced to do the stupid thing that you did.

>dad can i shoot myself in the foot with this gun
>no son don't do that
>fuck you dad it'll be fun
>aaaaaaaaaaaah it hurts
>see son that's what you get
vs
>son shoot yourself in the foot
>okay dad i trust you
>aaaaaaaaaaah it hurts
>see son you learned a very valuable lesson. never mind you could have learned this lesson without the needless pain but it was fun to see you suffer

how is this controversial
any kid who grew up on a small self-butchering farm learned this
i raised dozens of cute chickens, and every single one of them turned into delicious soup

>>13872756
Pretty sure it isn't possible to choke on deenz bonez unless you're a throatlet

it's common as shit in Japanese schools.
Around 4th of 5th grade they all rear some sort of animal and then process it's goods at the end.
I've seen Japanese kids farm firefly larvae, silkworms, octopus (and then kill, gut and hang the octopus flesh to dry) and all sorts.
It's only even making news because it's fish and chickens. The article's designed to get vegans, vegetarians and hippies mad, but unfortunately there's literally none of those in Japan.

>>13877411
there is at least one study i have seen a year or so ago that looks at statistics of food processing workers and the picture that it shows is not a good one, this type of "education" is nothing more than unnecessary pain inflicted for the purpose of "the faster they grow up the faster they can see how painful life is", its like taking your 14 year old boy to the whore house for him to become a man. i am beginning to understand why nips are so fucked up

>>13870948
WTF? I love FFA and 4H now.

>>13877234
It wasn't a deenz bone, it was a salmon bone, but I've never been able to look at fish the same way again. Including deenz. I know the bones are supposed to be edible, but I just can't overcome the gag reflex from that time.

>>13873256
didn't read lol

>>13877411
>designed to get vegans mad
What's with people thinking there's a vegan conspiracy? CK is anti-vegan but obsesses more about veganism than people who are actually living the vegan lifestyle

>>13877447
Most nip fuckupery happens when they leave highschool, get churned through the meatgrinder of their highly competitive universities, and then finally sell their soul to a keiretsu where they will work 14 hour days with no overtime and mandatory post-work drinking parties where they use the excuse of alcohol to voice their opinions on work progress directly becuse social expectations demand they be obedient and subservient in the workplace proper.

"If you ask an employee of KFC Japan,who do you work for? He won't say 'I work for Kentucky Fried Chicken, he'll say 'I _belong_ to Kentucky Fried chicken'... Normally a guy in Japan doesn't really start making his first business decision until he's about 40"
Loy Weston, KFC Japan chairman, 1981

>>13877630
>CK
Louis CK? What's he got to do with anything?

Its a pointlessly cruel experiment. If you want to teach them the important of life and the sacrifice animals make, go take them to a fish processing or meat processing place. Making them raise and kill pets just isn't the same as being okay with eating random animals.

>>13878353
Taking your kid hunting to shoot a deer for dinner is a much more effective way of teaching them

>>13878697
That is actually harmless compared to this.

>>13870950
>“Shouldn’t you also acknowledge the will of the weaker minority groups?” someone else asked.
Not based and not redpilled.

Honestly the problem here is that a whole show is made out of it, teaching the kids that this is something special. Kids growing up on a farm don't feel as bad about it because it's an every day occurence.

>>13870948
FUUUUCK

>>13870948
how is it controversial

>>13877411
Vegetarians exist up and down in Japan you deluded American weeb.

>>13871077

>>13871077
>>13879322

I still blame American culture for that shit.

>>13871238
Based psychopath

>>13871640
Thiccboi

>>13871002
pervert

>>13871095
Valid reply to most 4chan posts.

>>13871095
>beats chest while screaming ethnocentrism
fuck off

>>13878697
That too, but taking a whole class of kids hunting isn't exactly a viable option. Maybe its something best left to parents to decide.

you're not supposed to get attached to the animals you butcher though
that's the rancher's way at least

>>13879964
Parents decide to let their kids be trannies and dance at gay bars, so they're not great at this sort of thing.

>>13870948
The only way this could be malicious is if they hid the fact that they would be killing, cooking, and eating them themselves. If so, that's fucked. If not, then this is just over-sensationalized. Its not even a cow or a pig or anything that can actually display an ounce of recognizable behavior.

>>13871077
That dude is XXY for sure

>>13870950
>“Shouldn’t you also acknowledge the will of the weaker minority groups?”
This from the Chinese? Lmao

>>13871275
I hate it

>>13880113
HE HATES IT!

just reminds me of west dissecting frogs. i didn't want to do it because i knew i wouldn't gain very much of anything from it.

>>13870948
>fish
A butcher once came to our school and killed a living chicken in front of our eyes. I forgot how the rest went. I think he skinned the feathers out too, but that memory repressed for some reason

>>13870948
Its the same for many jap school. I kind of like this, these animal lives are not wasted.
It teaches an important lesson to the kid about the value of life and sacrifice of animal for their food.
Now you know that when Japanese says itakimasu they honestly mean it.

>>13879999
If the alternative is the government forcing everyone to think and act one way, having a choice is preferable even if some parents get it wrong.

We need this in America. Every seafood video has tons of pussies commenting how preparing fish is so horrible.

>>13880369
Did you raise them from tadpoles to full grown, killed them and then dissected them? That’s the difference

>>13870948
Yeah I don't think I could do this. I'm fine eating meat, I prefer the animals to have as nice of a living as possible (They taste better that way too so why wouldn't you want it?) but I don't think I could actually eat something after seeing it's face, let alone something I raised. Maybe middleschool and high school but elementary is too young for this, these kids barely understand their food comes from a source beyond a super market or maybe even the kitchen.

>>13880728
>these kids barely understand their food comes from a source beyond a super market
That's sort of the problem, though

bump

>>13870948
Fucking japs kamikaze bomb everybody and rape all the chinks but eating fish makes them cry?

>>13881026
you can teach them that without the personal emotional investment into a particular animal and then be forced to eat it.