/ck/ - Food & Cooking

How sophisticated, drinking cheap swill

>>13850627
>cheap
it's in the upper price range, you simp

>>13850645
>£50 a bottle
>Upper price range

Fucking NEETs.

>>13850656
how fucking rich are you? what do you drink, pappy von vinkle?

>cask type that may be sterilized via sulfur candle
>Glenmorangie
Bad combination. Enjoy your rotten eggs aroma and flavor.

>>13850678
Not rich. But not deluded enough to think a £50 bottle is the height of sophistication.

>>13850684
I always hear this and assumed it was bogus until I had Glenmorangie and Glenfarclas. One bottle could be great, other bottle I buy next time tastes fucking rancid.

>>13850723
I,m gonna have to agree with the asshole on this one. 50 quid ain't shit for a bottle of scotch.

>>13850569
How does this compare to the 12 year old version?

There's nothing random about my alcohilism

>>13850569
>Glenmorangie shitta poobum
no thanks

>>13850569
I've got a bottle of it and the Lasanta sitting right here. I'm disappointed to say the Lasanta is better. Imagine if it got the extra two years instead.
Great whiskys though.

>>13850723
After that you get severely diminished returns. How is a whisky really if you can buy multiple other great whiskys for the price?

>>13850729
I've had a billion bottles of Glenfarclas and never had a sulfured one. Ralfy has had the same experience, and he says they hand-inspect their sherry casks.
But yeah, it's technically a possibility with any sherried whisky or wine barrel-finished whisky.
Glenmorangie seems to have a high rate of sulfured bottles from what I've read.

What are some good Canadian whiskeys or rye whiskeys more broadly?

>>13850890
This is r the real question. What's new with the 14yo?

>>13842601
>Interested how it compares to more traditional Islay stuff.
OK, I just had my first dram of pic related. It doesn't taste like an Islay at all, despite the base spirit being 12-18 month old Islay whisky. Zero to little iodine, vegetal or medicinal notes.
It's way fucking smokier than even Ardbeg. Nose is pure smoke and STRONG. Smells like liquid smoke.
Flavor is BBQ meat. Super smoky, savory and rich. There's a good amount of oak in the background which isn't tannic/astringent but the smoke and savoriness are really, really up front and in your face. The peat and the charred wood synergize incredibly well here.
This is by far, and it's not even close, the most flavorful whisky I have ever tasted as well as the most masculine tasting whisky I have ever tasted. I like it better than Laphroaig 10, Lagavulin 16 or Ardbeg 10. I like it about equally as much as Ardbeg Corryvreckan, albeit in a completely different way. Again, it tastes nothing like an Islay. It's normally $50 and it's absolutely fucking incredible for that price. This is a must have for any peat-head.
The source of the base spirit is a secret. If I had to guess, I'd guess it's Lagavulin, based on flavor. It tastes closer to Lagavulin than Laphroaig or Ardbeg, yet tastes nothing like Lagavulin.
I will purchase this again.

>purists still sleeping on Kavalan
You are missing out

>>13852420
It's supposedly the same but slightly better.

>>13852564
It's all unaged, a clear weakness, and currently costs the same as a 15-18 year old scotch.
I actually got some from a friend in Taiwan, and though whisky is much cheaper there it's still matched against the same scotches.
It's not even good yet and people like you have hyped it into Japanese tier pricing.

>>13850569
glendronach port is much better

>>13852564
I'll buy Kavalan when its pricing isn't fucking retarded.

What's your favorite age, /ck/?

I think 12 year-olds have the best palette and finish, but my favorite age has to be 10 years old because of the nose. I just can't stop smelling 10 year-olds. I could smell 10 year-olds all day long.

>>13852635
things age faster in tropical climates
it's also expensive just because Kavalan is pretty much the only known producer and they charge whatever they want. It's not a demand issue, there's always plenty on the shelf.

>>13853352
Just because things age faster doesn't mean you don't have to bother ageing.
Put in the 6-8 years. If it is a lot hotter it won't taste young by then.

>>13850569
i prefer balvenie.

>>13850656
Dude 50 is not even top in the lock at your grocery.

The 10 year is better than the nectar dor

>>13850678
50 quid is not expensive whiskey

>>13850678
>wheated bourbon
Into the trash it goes.

>>13850569
This is good. La Santa is better.

>>13852553
fuck yeah thanks for coming back with the report.

I wish it were available in michigan.

>>13853316
underrated post

>>13852553
I can't find this in the UK, so thanks for the in depth review. I'm intrigued and want to try it so I'll keep looking.

Imagine picking Scotch over Irish

>>13855289
Irish whiskeys mostly all have the same profile. Scotch is much more varied and interesting.
>inb4 Connemara

>>13855435
Single pot still Irish whisky is wonderful. Dat creamy/oily mouthfeel, man.

I love the original Glenmorangie. Scotland's best seller too btw.

>>13856309

Glenmorangie is very far away from the best seller in Scotland

>>13850645
Kekkk no its not retard and its not even good for the price range its in

>>13852553
Fucking kill yourself what u have described sounds like it has absolutely zero balance in it a good whiskey should be firey and vibrant with a good balance not taste like fucking liquid smoke and vodka
Please die

>>13856309
FUCKING DIE

>>13852233
I agree about diminishing returns at that price point with Islay whisky. Given the quality of something like Ardbeg Uigeadail, I dont think its worth spending much more money on a bottle than that costs.

Obviously its a personal preference, but i think anything up to £130-£150 there are still decent increases in quality to be found. I like sherry aged whisky but I seem to find that if its young, I dont like it so much. Id much rather have 1 bottle of a 21 year Glendronach than 2 or 3 bottles of younger Glenmorangie.

>thinking you're sophisticated for drinking official bottlings of basic bitch distilleries
Thankfully plebs like you will never know about indie bottled Glenmorangie that tastes 10000x better then equivalent priced underproof shit from the distillery. Fuck LVMH for ruining them and Ardbeg.

>>13852383
Wisers 23 Blended Cask Strength
Any age stated Lot 40 Cask Strength
Anything Shelter Point
Any peated Glen Breton (super hard to find though)
Maybe some Two Brewers and Alberta Premium Cask Strength editions and that's basically it. Every other Canadian whisky sucks balls.

>>13852553
Stop shilling your garbage here. All Lost Spirits "whiskies" are rotting vegetation in a bottle. You idiots should've closed down years ago because your products are shit and you dont even make most of the shit you produce in-house. Even Do Good are better then you and they've made exactly 1 good product which is more then Lost Spirits will ever make when Lost Spiritd are more focused on making money with their gimmicky distillery tours.

For those in this thread who've never heard of Lost Spirits and their owners shitty personality read this shit http://recenteats.blogspot.com/2012/09/craft-whiskey-week-lost-spirits.html?m=1

for me its this

>>13850569
>Johnny Walker? Ahem, excuse me, I only drink sophisticated, HIGH END liquor

>>13856309
The base spirit doesn't have enough going on. That said, the finishes are great.
As for best... where's their old stuff?

>>13856432
Market differences. Here Ardbeg 10 costs $80AUD and Uigeadail costs $140. Is it 1 and 3/4 times as good? idk, I love Ardbeg 10.

>>13856631
Well if thats the difference, then probably not. The 10 is £40, Uig is £53, Corry is £63 which makes Uig the best choice for me. Its not worth double the 10 though.

>>13856501
I'm not a Lost Spirits representative, just a random whisky lover. I'm >>13842612 from the last thread. Pic related. Tell me, where did Bryan Davis bad-touch you?
>>13856425
Most whiskies roundly described as "balanced," in my experience, lack character or intense flavors. Intense flavors and strong characters don't often exist when too many flavors are all balancing each other out. I like whiskies with character and intense flavors. For example, I prefer Corryvreckan's brutish approach to peat to Uigeadail's peat/sherry balance. Your mileage may vary.

Anyone else get tricked into paying extra for this? Has rave reviews and liquor store told me that I was lucky cause they just restocked them. It's not bad, just pretty average as hell.

>>13857115
You only need two flavours to balance. Ardbeg 10 balances smokiness with sweetness.
Perhaps this is more apparent in wine, where balance is less fine tuned and varies with bottled age. Too acidic or too tannic are easily visible as gaping flaws.
But is intensity, balance and complexity possible? I think you have to pick two.

>>13857270

Arberg 10 is about a balanced as a Klan meeting

>>13857270
>You only need two flavours to balance
Going by this definition, I think Lost Spirits Abomination "Sayers of the Law" balances smokiness with savoriness quite well. It smells like liquid smoke but it doesn't taste like liquid smoke.

How you all holding up right now? What was the first bottle to be finished during your isolation

>>13857396
Isolation hasn't changed my one dram per night while watching Tucker Carlson policy. I'm not an alcoholic. I just like the flavor of good whisky.

>>13857270
>But is intensity, balance and complexity possible? I think you have to pick two.
I'll tell you what, if the Redbreast 12 cask strength I just got done sipping on a dram of doesn't accomplish all three, it comes damn close. I like it about as much as A'bunadh.

>>13857410

Auchentoshan Three Wood.

>>13857432
You had me at sherry bomb. This will be one of my next purchases.

>>13857401
And what is your good whisky?

Is this good for the money

Everything I've heard about this distillery intrigues me, though their prices seem kinda outrageous

>>13857410
I've only had the regular Redbreast. It has a nice oily mouthfeel, but is otherwise middle of the road imo. Not that intense or complex. Crazy expensive here too.
A'bunadh is intense and balanced, but there's only two big notes; sherry fruits and wood glue.

>>13858358
I've had the tasting set. They're all nice but not worth the price.

>>13852383
Gibson's 18 is one of the best whiskys in the world and I'd put it up against bottles that cost ten times as much.

>>13850569
I tried this at a whisky convention and it was definitely not worth the price tag

>>13852564
Kavalan is insanely overpriced for the only novelty that it’s made in Taiwan/Thailand/whatever shithole it’s made in

>>13858858
How expensive is it?
It's good value here for a 14 year old.

>>13858879
Here it’s about 73 dollars, which is definitely more than it’s worth, and at that point I’d rather just get Lagavulin 16 which is the king of that price range

>>13858797
>A'bunadh is intense and balanced, but there's only two big notes; sherry fruits and wood glue.

Make up your mind. Is it balanced or are there only two big notes?

Glendronach 15 is a lot better, yeah, but I think A'bunadh is pretty well-rounded for a sherry bomb. A lot of other sherry bomb scotches, no matter how well they're made, just end up tasting so much like brandy that they feel less balanced to me. You just taste the raisin, the coffee, the nuts, and it's kind of too much. For example: Tamdhu batch strength. I enjoyed it, but I feel like I would have to be in the mood specifically for that kind of scotch to want to drink it, whereas I feel that A'Bunadh is like the near-midway point between a heavy, rich sherry bomb and a cirtus-y "normal" unpeated scotch that I think somebody could drink even when they're not in the mood for an overwhelmingly rich plum pudding type dram

>>13859020
>Make up your mind. Is it balanced or are there only two big notes?
Both, that is my point

>>13857270
>You only need two flavours to balance

Is this stuff as good as kentucky deluxe?

How can I get better at sherried scotch?
I’ve tried quite a few but they all just taste like sour raisins, and I usually get a headache from the high acidity, like if I’m drinking wine

good pish

Laphroaig 10 vs Talisker 10? Can't decide.

>>13859092
Switch to brandy.

>>13856543
Nectar*

>>13859601
Those two are pretty different, man. Maybe you'll want to get one of each.
I prefer the Laphroaig, but you might not.

>>13859601
Laphroaig 10 CS >>>> Talisker 10 > Laphroaig 10

>>13859867
Why is Laffy 10 CS so fucking rare?
I can't find it in any liqour store here, and on second hand market its insanely expensive

>>13859848
I've never seen a taco bell either. What do you mean by meme menu item?

>>13859877
not only rare but fucking expencive in my area. I think because they make it by small (relatively small) bathces. but not sure. and also because they are greedy jews too.

>>13857117
Their cask strength is good, but yeah it's all just american imitation scotch

>>13859877
not much gets imported, most of it that does sells out immediately
same problem with the Cairdeas

Got a bottle of this on discout, but holy hell just pay the extra 5 bucks for the 18 if you're getting it at retail.

>>13859601
Laphroaig 10 > Clan MacGregor > Jeppson's Malört > Talisker 10

>>13861354
>Clan MacGregor > Jeppson's Malört

>>13861424
Chocolate chip green tea icecream.

>>13853316
kek

> laughs in 101

Does eagle rare live up to the meme or are there better options for the price?

>>13861618
It's pretty good but not a world beater by any means. $30 is a fair price for it. I don't think I'd pay $40 though.

Wild turkey is for gaylords.

>>13859733
>Spain
gibe the Estrella boss
I actually think I liked Mahou more though

What's the highest you'd pay for a laphroaig 10?

>>13861801

I'd pay 20 bucks for a bottle of it.

>>13861801
~$40. I think it's been 35 or so every time I've purchased it.

>>13859867
>>13861354
You guys are making this hard! Can you explain the differences and why you prefer what you prefer? Only scotch I had was Highland Park 12 and I found it really boring, if that helps.

>>13861867
just get laphroaig, tallisker is mediocre and has been shilled in these threads by either a terminally autistic guy or a genuine Diageo employee

>>13861618
It's pretty good and 10 years for a low price

>>13861909
Can you really shit on Diageo when they're also behind Laga 16

>>13861618
all buffalo trace is overhyped
but it's pretty good

>>13861935
yes because it's a shell of its former self, has gotten sweet and watery in recent years
quality of the oak has clearly gone to shit
these days I just buy Longmorn 16 instead

>>13861943
>triple the price
No ty

>>13861943
You could've said Port Askaig and sounded less embarassing

>>13861947
???

>>13861964
Lag is 50 and Longmourn 130 here.

Anyone tried winning anything on whiskyauction.com?
The prices in there seem alright, in the sense that you might be able to get a steal

>>13856523
can you PLEASE and i mean PLEASE I BET YOU post the picture of your dick? i fucking need it so much.

>>13861967
where do you live? Texas prices are pretty okay on certain things but I'm still butthurt that redbreast 21 is $320 in Texas and that you can import it in certain states for like ~$170

>>13861867
Highland park 12 is swill.

>>13861979
Germany. Redbreast 21 is 125.

Coke and Fanta
Where my Spezi bros at?

>>13861990
what would you say, how much does a bottle of fine whisky cost in germany? if you want to buy a bottle of good whisky and spend on the above average scale while buying it, what would you spend? 50 euros? 200 euros?

i'm not asking how much does a bottle of above average whisky cost, it's more of an average german consumer spending standard related question.

are there people who like Jura

>drinking Glenfarclas 25
>realize the intense freshly-finished wood note seems familiar
>realize it reminds me of fucking mezcal

I still like it, but it's bizarre. Try them side-by-side if you don't believe me.

I don't like sherried whisky

>>13862005
Do you mean in general or for me? I guess I consider anything above 40 "above average" expensive, so it has to be really good in some way. Most stuff like Laph 10, Talisker 10, HP12, FRSB etc. is between 25-35.

>>13862045
in general. here in croatia you're considered a big spender if you cash 50e for a bottle. even buying jw red (which costs around 15e) is considered slightly above average.

so when you compare our standards, i thought maybe you guys are buying 200e bottles on the reg and aren't considering it luxurious.

>>13862037
why

>>13862057
Oh nah, if you mean in general it's exactly the same here. Most people buy no name booze from the discounters. To be fair, some of the no name stuff is pretty decent, at least as good as something like JB or JW red at like half the price.

>>13862090
I don't know, it comes off as acidic and sour to me and a very strong raisin flavor.
It's a very sharp taste to me, and can sometimes give me headaches.
I don't like wine either for the same reason.

>>13862096
have you tried glendronach 15? One of the softest sherried whiskies out there, I get more citrus than raisin. I find the raisiny notes come more from port pipes like Dalmore's

For me its Evan Williams
The most affordable brown alcohol
*coof*

Anyone here had Ledaig 10? Thinking of buying it.

>>13853316
based joe

>>13861618
Idk why but I dislike it.

It has this saccharine cotton candy palate that just seems completely different from regular Buffalo Trace

>>13861867
then you shouldn't look at havy Islay (peaty) scotches. Go for Aberlaur 12 (best selling scotch in France) or Glen Grant 10 (best selling in Italy). take your time, develop your palate, move from basic malts to more challenging ones. Highland Park 12 was a good start, btw. If you liked that then you can go for Talisker 10, or something like Bowmore / Bunnahabhain

>>13861909
no one is shilling here for Talisker you faggot, it used to be great whisky before DIageo, and now's much worse, but fucking still on the same level with Laphroiag 10, because that kike-tier Islay is still on 40 fucking % for literal women and gaylords of
>muh islay

>>13861977
de fug why would you need a picture of muh dick?

>>13862242
wow, you're such an adult, omg

figgot

>>13862143
Don't. Not much depth of flavour, little smokiness but a lot of tannic acidity and little sweetness. Not a balanced drink.

Not enough stock pot for my taste.

>>13862227
Someone who is new to scotch shouldn't be bothering with Talisker 10 or Bunnahabhain. Bowmore isn't a bad shout but it's not a good example of anything in particular it's just a mediocre whisky. It's more of a cocktail whisky than a dram.

>>13862270
if he found HP12 "boring" that most of begginer level scotches will be the same for that guy, you see. and you're 100% wrong about everything you've said my man. Bowmore is not for cocktails. and Bunnahabhain is perfect whisky no matter if one is a begginer or not.

>>13862104
Is that the new 15? The old 15 was the first bottle of single malt I bought it and it was excellent. I thought about getting the new 15 but I dont think it will live up to expectations of the old version.

>>13862143
Very sharp, it was a challenge to drink

She left me bro’s. 3 months and it won’t stop hurting. Been drinking every night since. It’s starting to cause problems. Can’t stop. Feeling numb at night is the only thing I look forward to anymore.

She wanted a family and I wouldn’t give it to her. Now all I have is the bottle.

>>13862544
Why dont you want a family? Literally the best thing you could do with your life?

>>13862546
Lots of reasons. I never took her seriously. Took her for granted. Thought she would never leave despite everything. She was also a cheater and a liar so there’s that also. Regardless this pain is unreal.

>>13862544
just forget about her as soon as possible. reflecting doesn't help. and her - is not the best you can pull out. so this better this hhappened now than in 10 years when she'll take your house and three kids away. remember: there are literally MILLIONS of those, and MILLIONS far far better. just get your ass up and move on!

>>13861119
spend it on drugs for resale desu ladaroony

>>13861527
I always pretend I’m the mad stork in Infinite Jest when I’m ruining my life with Wild Turkey. It ain’t bad.

I don't live in Thousand Oaks anymore. Does Del Taco really do tamales now?

>>13862567
Based good natured anon. I have a good job, I make good money, best shape I’ve been in a long time. I have friends and a nice house but this girl made me feel alive. It took her leaving me to realize how much I truly cared about her. I honestly didn’t treat her the best. I can’t even blame her for leaving me. It’ll get better I know. I’m not sure a relationship ending has ever devastated me this badly.

>>13862585
yeah, and stop drinking already. booze dosen't help. leave it away and keep moving. everyone been there and went through such shit. this is what the life is about.

Time to settle things once and for all.
>Ice or no ice?
>Lowball style glass or Glencairn style glass?

>>13863310
>ice or no ice
ball of ice if too hot, otherwise none/few drops of water
>lowball or glencairn
glencairn unless peated, then lowball

>>13863310
-no ice
-nothing but Copita Nosing glass
or raging Richard Paterson jumps out of the nearest mirror and brutally chokes you to deaths

>>13863310
>Ice
>Lowball

>>13863262
Nah, I work with tri-tip all the time and it definitely has three tips. Pretty sure it's a west coast/California thing.

>>13863310
No ice, nor water.
Glencairn over lowball obviously, but I don't think glencairns are the best nosing glass. Copitas are easier to drink out of and have a similar if not better effect.

I think lowball may be the worst possible choice. A shot glass, saki dish or champagne flute would all be better.

How do I enjoy this

it's just so hot

>>13863264
How much water to rice did you use

>>13863530
is London broil an actual cut of meat or a method of cooking? I hear different definitions.

>>13863264
>not realizing that all you do in the first 4 years of sushi apprenticeship is washing rice

I mean must be easy even robots can do it.

>>13863521
tiny sips, lots of nosing

>>13863521
That's probably my favorite current bottle. Thanks for reminding me to go look for it (yes, I misplaced a $90 bottle of whiskey in my tiny apartment). Try adding a couple drops of water if it's too hot for you. I'm more of a tiny sips guy like the other anon said.

>>13863567
I resolved to only drink this on special occasions since it was so expensive. I guess I'll try tiny sips next time.

>>13863521
small, and I ,eam SMALL sips. just a few drops at once. and then over and over. take your time, and someday your palate will be fine.

>>13863593
I mean*

>>13863521
Drown half the bottle at once. You gotta front load big burns like that so you can adjust to it.

>>13863588
Just poured myself a bit (turns out it was just being a bottlelet behind something else). Yeah, good stuff. It's such a flavor bomb that I only ever pour tiny glasses and never worry about saving it for special occasions.

>>13855237
>Seething & coping tastelet

I've got a bottle of this coming soon via FedEx Ground. What am I in for?

>>13863521
Either suck down a long drink to accustom yourself to the strength or decant it a while.

>>13863436
Ragusea video methos works well

>>13863521
Testosterone injections. Pussy.

>>13863521
4-5 drops of water, wait 10 mins
inb4 butthurt

>>13862544
>>13862559
>>13862585
fucking normies

>>13861977
>13862045
>>13861977

For me, it's bottom shelf vodka

because I'm a random alcoholic, not sophisticated

I'm going to the liquor store tomorrow. What should I buy that's under fifty dollars?

>>13864441
appleton estate 12 year old rum

yummy stuff, under 40 bucks where I live

>>13864447
I haven't tried rum before. I look forward to it.

>be me
>go down to a buddy's friends house to move, paint, and do some basic remodeling
>it's a family friend
>we have a feew beers every day while making steady process
>out of vodka
>drink one of his beers but it's gross and right now I can't get my juicy juice
>make it through the day killing it
>family friend sees me sweating and mistakes basic withdrawl symptoms ot for tecada or whatever has been going around lately
>have a seizure
>bite my fucking tongue
>humor and go to ER office
>they renewed a few of my scripts which was cool
>wanted to leave but "ooooh no I need an MRI and EEG"
>I am still fucking here, typing as I hit
>the dumbest fucking part?
>this was the second seizure ever
>last one was three months ago
>in my state they take away your license after two seizures within' a year.
I want to fucking die and I am STILL STUCK IN THIS GODFORSAKEN UPSTAIRS ER /OFFICE/HOTEL THING.

>>13864483
I had a seizure and my license taken away as well. I would recommend biking to work if you can. It's great exercise. The worst thing is people might smell sweat while you're in the room. It gets your quads big though and you'll have to buy new pants. Sorry to hear about all that shit. Can you still talk after biting your tongue?

>>13862227
> Park 12 was a good start, btw. If you liked that then you can go for Talisker 10
Like I said, I found HP12 boring. Is Talisker noticeably different? I'm worried that if I get it and it only ends up being a mild subtle difference I will regret not having gone for the Laph 10. But if you say it's way different I might go for it. Like the other anon said, it's 45% vs 40% (while being 2 bucks cheaper).

>>13864471
enjoy anon!

>>13864494
Yes, anon, I can. I surprisingly only got the sides so they swelled up real badly and I have to talk/ talked like a retard for a few days.

>>13863521
>61% abv
There's your fucking problem. You need to add water.

>>13864483
>>13864494
Are you two still lucid when you experience a seizure, able to hear what people around you are saying, etc? It's of medical interest.

Why the fuck is bourbon so hot and harsh compared to scotch and Irish whiskey? Even a 40% abv bourbon will burn my mouth/throat more than a 50% abv scotch or Irish. Is it less time spent aging or maybe something to do with corn?

>>13864931
virgin barrels and young age

>>13863692
you're into a fucking good scotch, my man

>>13864447
>under 40 bucks where I live
holly shit mate. I can buy it here for like 23 bucks.
>>13864534
buy Talisker, yes, it is significantly different

>>13864931
Probably the Rye, it adds a lot of spice to the resulting liquor.

>>13850656
Does more expensive mean more better?
Where does value for money cross the line into veblen goods territory?

>>13863310
I usually put a teaspoon of water in a glencairn or copita and then put it in the freezer for 30 minutes.

Slightly chills the whisky without adding too much ice and killing it. Downside is its a bit autistic and you need to plan at least 30 minutes ahead.

>>13864534
>Is Talisker noticeably different?
It's noticeably different from any other whisky. Most whisky tastes like whisky. Talisker tastes more like feces.

>>13864931
Bourbon generally is smoother because of the corn and distilling process.

>>13866042
Why do you hate it so much? Did the Talisker maker kill your parents or something?

>>13861909
>tallisker is mediocre
giving it way too much credit
>and has been shilled in these threads by either a terminally autistic guy or a genuine Diageo employee
true, see
>>13865178
>buy talisker
totally not marketing speak
>>13866042
>Talisker tastes more like feces.
now this is way more accurate than mediocre

>>13864915
I was not. Before the seizure happened I knew something was wrong. I wasn't thinking clearly and I could hear buzzing inside my head. It was like a bees nest was inside me. I blacked out and woke up later in the ambulance. From there I remember thinking the paramedic was cute. Then I felt like throwing up and he gave me a bag. I dry heaved a lot then blacked out again. I woke up again as they were wheeling me through the hospital. Another blackout. I gained consciousness for good once I was in the hospital bed. I think the entire ordeal took two hours from my seizure to waking up in the bed. I do wish I was conscious, because now I'm not afraid of them. To me having a seizure is just feeling off, then waking up sore some time later.

>>13866132
There's a couple anti-talisker shills that hang around here. Any time someone mentions talisker, they get called a diageo shill by these autists

>>13857117
Their blue one is the best of their line, also their cheapest.

>>13866789
exactely. and Im not saying Talisker is great, it ISN'T, because I clearly remember what it used to be before Diageo, and before the whisky selling boom. remember their previous label on 10 yo? that one was exelent scotch, solid 86-87 and one of the best 10 year-olders. and with new label they've changed recipe (added more re-filled and low quality barrels), and its quality dropped significantely. but even tho, Talisker 10 is far better then HP12 and most of basic / beginners scotches.

>>13866789
>>13866821
>Talisker 10 is far better then HP12 and most of basic / beginners scotches
Alright guys, I will try it next. If it's shit I'm gonna find you and I will murder your families in front of you.

>>13866821
HP12 sucks so that's not a huge achievement

>>13866872
it also used to be good with old labeling. now sucks.

>>13864931
newly toasted barrels, all scotch is first-fill which means 60-70% of that intense oaky quality has been washed out
different water supplies, scottish water is some of the most naturally pure out there
typically higher proof as well, for a non-bottom-shelf bourbon, 45-50% is standard, whereas 43-46% is more the course for scotch. There are obviously exceptions, but this is what I've noticed.

>>13862278
Hp12 is boring because it's cheaply produced not because it's a beginner scotch.

Bowmore is a perfect cocktail whisky because it has all the expected elements of a scotch, smokiness and fruity sweetness without either dominating a cocktail. It's a great all-rounder for cocktails unless you want to switch to a blend but that's not ideal for your backbar.

Bunnahabhain whiskies are mostly oaked which makes them great for American tourists and not much else.

>>13866789
t. literal paid Talisker shill
For those who aren't regulars in these threads, the Talisker shill literally got raped by the mods for samefagging to shill Talisker by attempting to create the impression of consensus:
>>/ck/thread/13490463#p13518664

>>13865595
I think there is a loose association.
Once you get to the price of 18 year olds you start doubling in price for a 21.
30 year olds cost 4 times that and from what I've been told there is no distillery character left at this point, only variations due to cask influence. Not that I can afford to find out.

>>13867637
Stop spouting this shit. I have called you out on it before.
The guy asked for help choosing between two whiskys.
One guy (Me, who wasn't banned) offered some advice.
He Ignored your blatant bullshit and took my advice. There was no samefagging.

met my first whiskey snob in the wild yesterday.
was absolutely painful

>>13868179
>whiskEy snob
there are no such people. those are just posers.

>>13863310
No ice. Any glass that's fatter on the bottom and skinnier at the top will suffice for funneling aroma.
>>13867858
>Stop spouting this shit. Wuhan has no new cases.
Equally believable to your statement.

>>13863310
>nosers for scotch, lowballs for anything else.
>Ice for bourbon, neat for everything else.
In the end its a matter of preference, you can drink out of a martini glass for all anyone oughta care

>>13863310
>>Ice or no ice?

For Scotch: Never Ice. Few drops of water to taste if the ABV starts to climb over 40/42% depending on the style.

>>Lowball style glass or Glencairn style glass?

For Scotch: Glencairn if it's a single-malt and your first time trying it, lowball thereafter and for blends.

For Bourbon: who gives a fuck

>>13868202
you can definitely snob it up about irish whiskey and ostensibly some of the american single-malts

>>13868639
Nobody snobs it up about that shit. Whiskey snobs exclusively drink macallan

>>13857396
I've finished heaps, knocked over a few ardbegs, lagavulins, Glenmorangie, some rarer stuff too. I have devistated my collection this last month.

>>13868854
>chinks and indians attempting to be snobs exclusively drink macallan
ftfy
gonna miss that 15 year triple oak though

>buy a bottle you've never tried before
>get the foil off the neck
>its a plastic screw-cap
Is there a worse feeling?

>>13869484
>>buy a bottle you've never tried before
>>get the foil off the neck
>>its a plastic screw-cap
>Have one drink to try it
>Have another drink to enjoy it
>Have another because it's not bad
>Drink rest of bottle
>Still empty inside
Is there a worse feeling?

r8 my fucking whiskeys. Just gottem.

>>13869499
No

>>13866292
Wow, that's really interesting insight. Thank you for sharing, I mean it. I'm currently in training to be an EMT and want to know what people are going through firsthand.

>>13869216
No way. A lot of these silly people are white

>>13869499
never tried this Evan Williams. is it good? compare to same range / price burbons?

>>13870198
Spend an extra dollar or two for Jim Beam.
It's just better.

>>13870325
Not sure if trolling

>>13870325
what? Evan Williams IS Jim Beam, but fancier version. I asked because I never tried this paricular one here>>13869499

>>13859601
For me, it's Talisker 10

>>13861618
Eagle Rare is odd for me, I can drink pretty much all bourbons no problem, expensive or dirt cheap. My list of literal drain pour bourbons is maybe like 3... and Eagle Rare is one of them. I have no idea how but it just tastes off for me, there are no pleasant notes or interesting peaks, I've probably had about 6 pours of it from different bars thinking "maybe the bottle was bad, lets try this again" and it's always the same. I'll probably end up trying it again but I just dont know what's so different about ER

>>13863521
Just keep going

>>13864441
As much Wild Turkey as you can carry. I've seen the 1.75L go for like 23 bucks

>>13867637
Not a Diageo employee but just a big fan of Talisker. No idea why you think the mods did anything about it

>>13870449
but only 101*, Turkey 80 is not worth buying no matter of the price

>>13866821
>clearly remember what it used to be before Diageo, and before the whisky selling boom.
>remember their previous label on 10 yo?

What did it look like? I like diageo talisker, so I'd like to know what to look out for to try this superior, old version.

>>13870430
Lol this guy is actually kind of a shill

>>13871144
>kind of
>>/ck/image/i4BPKPmY34nLvrYrO4eiHg

>>13871144
>What did it look like?
like this pic related. you can find it for, obviously, much bigger price on a secondary market and auctions (not extrimely more expencive tho, probably twice the price). but it's much, much better, and you will immediately taste and feel that.

>>13870436
This. It's a strange dram. Very oddly saccharine and harsh palate

>>13850569
https://youtu.be/TFB2Y2jImNQ?t=114
music related

>>13870198
I like it. Snobs tell me its shit, but I don't care what they think. It's $10 a bottle where I live so I get it quite often.

>>13871729
compare to Wild Turkey 101? Makers Mark? Bulleit?

>>13871791
Not as good, but not as expensive either.

>>13871232
What was the last year they sold this?

>>13872119
can't tell exactely, but around 8 years ago.

What is the second worst-tasting whisky behind Talisker 10?

>>13872616
glenlivet
MACALLAN
imo glenfiddich is worse than talisker too

Am I a bitch if I water down Laphroaig cask strength? I've never been a fan of adding water, but this one numbs my tongue after a few sips.

>>13873048
There's nothing remotely inoffensive tasting about Macallan when it's not sulfured. It's overpriced, sure, but there's nothing even remotely resembling an "off note" about it when it's not sulfured.

>>13873075
There's nothing remotely offensive tasting about Macallan when it's not sulfured. It's overpriced, sure, but there's nothing even remotely resembling an "off note" about it when it's not sulfured.
>>13873074
You're a bitch if you water down any whisky.

>>13872616
According to my records it's a 96 way tie between:
Johnnie Walker red, black, double black, green
Jack Daniels
Jim Beam, Devil's cut
Label 5
Dewers white, 12
Rollins
Jameson
Old Virginia
Wild Turkey, 101, Rye, American Honey
Chivas Regal
Maker's Mark
Copper Dog
The Dubliner
Tullamore Dew
Glen Moray, port, sherry, chardonnay
Glen Grant 10, 12
Slane
Auchentoshan classic, 3 wood
Teeling small batch
Spey River
Old Forester
Bulleit, Rye
Monkey Shoulder
Glenfiddich 12
Ardmore legacy
Bushmills 10
Buffalo Trace
The 6 isles
Blanton's Original Private Reserve Single Barrel
Russell's Reserve 10
Glenlivet 12
Glengoyne 10, 12, 15, cask strength
Penderyn Legend
Loch Lomond 12
Tenjaku
Eagle Rare 10
Bunnahabhain Stiuireadair
Highland Park 10
Ledaig 10
Dalwhinnie Winter's Gold
Nikka From The Barrel, Pure Malt, Coffee Grain
Talisker Skye, Storm
Aberlour 12
Starward NOVA
Glenkinchie 12
Lagavulin 8
Green Spot
Redbreast 12
Kilchoman Sanaig
Benromach Organic
GlenDronach 12
Bruichladdich The Classic Laddie
Caol Ila 12
Mars Iwai
Michel Couvreur
Kavalan Classic, Concertmaster, Podium, Conductor, Distillery Reserve, Solist ex-Bouron, Solist Sherry, Solist Fino, Solist Vinho, Solist Brandy
Macallan 12 Sherry
Springbank 10
Longrow
Port Charlotte 10
Limeburners port cask
Tiger Snake Sour Mash
Whipper Snapper Upshot
Shelter Point Single Malt
Hibiki 17
Mitagikyo
Angels Envy

>>13873322
That is, these rank behind Talisker 10 - the second worst whisky

I like Aultmore a lot :)

Both the 12 and the 18 are very nice

>>13873385
>exceptional smoothness
So it's flavorless.

>>13873393
You're conflating smoothness which denotes the character of a spirit with blandness which describes the flavor :)

>>13861527
top underrated

>>13873506
101 is highly rated here and elsewhere

>>13856523
I cant tell if the bottle is gigantic or if you're a manlet. Fucking disaster.

>>13862572
I never finished infinite jest, could never get over the feeling i was reading a meme kind of like reading James Joyce.

>>13873580
This to be honest, can't think of anyone who doesn't enjoy it to some capacity, def one of those never a wrong choice kind of things.

>>13873322
this may be the second-best bait on any whiskey thread

>>13873397
I get that, but whenever normies or marketers rave about how exceptionally "smooth" a whisky it is, it's almost always fucking flavorless.

>>13871791
EW for me is just shy of WT but better than Bulleit. MM has a better nose and taste initially but then the finish is so damn quick compared to EW.

For the price, EW cant really be beat

>>13872616
Not sure what you mean friend, Talisker 10 is one of the best tasting whiskies available.

>>13873723
this is a litre Duty Free bottle you absolute moron

>>13874508
>₹.01 was deposited into your account by DIAGEO PLC, Bhagavateeprasaad

>>13872616
Glenfiddich 12 is fucking disgusting.
And it's horrifying to think that this is the single malt that is recommended for beginners to scotch.

Can someone please explain the point of drinking any scotch other than Islays? Like, if you want pussy sherry flavor, drink bourbon.

>>13856523
>ardberg whisky

yes i like a pint of smoke and nothing else. For the high price tag this tastes narly.

>>13875782
Did COVID-19 kill your sense of taste and smell? There's a ton of citrus/tropical fruit flavor in Ardbeg.

Recommend me a bourbon that will blow my mind. I've only had Maker's Mark and Woodford.

>>13861962
>Port Askaig
Opinions?

>>13875819
Woodford Double Oaked

>>13875819
Bookers or stagg jr. Everything else either tastes samey or is ludicrously expensive and you might as well get scotch at that point.

>>13875819
>>13875903 for intense wood flavor.
Four Roses Single Barrel or Old Grand-Dad 114 for intense rye spice.

>>13875903
>>13876720
I second these two lads and would probably add Old Forester 1920

>>13875761
It's recommended for beginners because it's inoffensive, cheap, has a great nose and some fruit character. It's a shame you drank something else.

>>13875930
also Sam Houston and Smooth Ambler Old Scout

>>13875819
Buffalo Trace is a good entry-level bourbon

>>13875819

if you're looking for mid-self, go for Bulleit or Wild Turkey 101

>Maker's cask strength is also very solid for sipping bourbon

>>13877194
Stop recommending this. It's impossible to find.

A good entry level bourbon is Wild Turkey 101 which you can literally always find

>>13877293
im in bumfuck europe and its literally in every half-decent liquor store here
where the hell do you live

>>13868854
>Whiskey snobs exclusively drink overpriced, overhyped bullshit that is the exclusive purview of non-Whites just barely smart enough to not buy Johnnie Walker Blue

>>13873322
Kek, I'm pretty sure I'm the reason some of these are on here

>>13877293
In in Russia and aside of the Turkey, JD, JB, MM this is the most popular biurbon you can find in any big store. you can buy it for like 20 bucks here and even 5-10 bucks cheaper on a discount.

>>13875782
t. Bourbon- and Sherry-cask connosseur tastelet

I drank a bottle of this in 2014 when it was £80, now some cunts are asking for 2k a bottle. Is this pure hype due to rarity?

>>13877400
I don't know how you'd come to that conclusion, or if you'd really want to be responsible for a list of bad whiskys.

>>13877498
>bad whiskies
Nice that you're still doing the bit. Good dedication. This is a list of every whisky that's been recommended in good faith in the last five or six /alck/ threads.

>>13877505
I think you'd see more common recommendations in the shorter list better ones.
Most of these are just below the Talisker price bracket.

>>13877410
>muh islay ashtray cuck

>>13877479
>Is this pure hype due to rarity?
it is.
nips are worse than jews. they buy whisky barrels in scotland, ship it up to japan, crack it, bottle it with their own label and sell x5 the price. and Im not talking about the ones who actually own scottish distillery. they do it on a regular basis, because 1) faggots fell into oh muh japanese whisky!1 2) chinese whisky consumption blew the fucking sky and gooks buy whatever you sell em for whatever price you want. if it's FANCY and you can pose it.

>>13863692
OK, it came today. It's really good. Between Laphroaig, Ardbeg and Lagavulin, it's the most like Laphroaig. It's somewhat similar to Laphroaig, yet the medicinal/vegetal quality of Laphroaig is replaced by an earthiness. It has a nice lemony flavor which is really lovely. It's quite soft on the palate. It's about as peaty as Laphroaig, maybe a teensy bit moreso.
I'd definitely recommend this to peatheads looking for something heavily peated that's a little different from the usual Islay mainstays.

>>13877540
Cucked sweet tooth cope & seethe

>>13857401
Kys dramposter

>>13877932
t.butthurt commie who adds water to his whisky

>>13877947
ok boomer

finally got my ardbeg lads, picked these up while I was there

running out of room on my bar table though

>That guy at the whiskey club that wont shut up about "no ice, no water, only glencairn"
>acts obnoxious towards anyone who doesnt
>is literally there every fucking meeting
>goes crying to a founder whenever someone tells him to shut the fuck up
>the founders still wonder why so many people quit after attending 2-3 times

>>13878320
>whiskey club

seems like it would self-select for being terrible
only way around it is to do it with friends

>>13875761
What's a good single malt for a beginner? I'm going to buy my first bottle tomorrow someone recommended me Glenmorangie 10

>>13850678
Anything under 30 will only get you fermented American corn syrup

>>13878320
I find it hard to believe that somebody would join a whiskey club and proceed to refuse to drink more than one brand.

>>13850569
>just as good
I'll still have money after the happening is over.

>>13879180
Talisker 10

>>13879194
Glencarin is a whisky glass, not a whisky.
He's insisting other people use one and don't water their whisky.

>>13878299
Post review. I'm jealous, wanna try that one since I love uige so much. Is that the cask strength one?

post best starter scotch

>>13879180
Aberlour 12, best selling scotch in France
Glen Grant 10, best selling scotch in Italy
easy to find, relatively cheap, you go for it, lad, and don't listen to that guy with Talisker advice, it's not for beginners

>>13879652
read this>>13879895
I can also put these few: Glenfiddich 12, Glenmorangie 10, Balvenie 12, Glenlivet 12. I'd also recommend you Macallan but their pricing these days is fucking ridiculous

>>13879652
An entire bottle of laphroaig 10. drink nothing else but water until the day you've finished it.

I'm not memeing, this will teach you to enjoy scotch. If you start with highlands or speyside, scotch will feel like a minefield.

Or get balvenie 12

>>13879180
Glenmorangie 10 is unironically a good one for a beginner because it's smooth and a safe choice. But it's not really representative of scotch as a whole, so if you're feeling a little more adventure, get Highland Park 12. It's a perfect balance of what scotch can do and at a reasonable price. It is smooth but with a hint of smokiness.

>>13879652
Disregard people who tell you to try Glenfiddich 12. It is disgusting and will turn you off of single malts. It tastes like sour green apple Jolly Ranchers. Go for it if that sounds appealing. Try literally any other single malt as your first one.

Listen to this guy.
>>13880107
Start with an Islay as your first scotch. Laphroaig 10 separates the men from the girly men.

>>13880107
>>13879908
Why the Balvenie 12 recommendation? I thought it was very forgettable. I mean it wasn't terrible but it didn't wow me either.

Why do people act like peated whisky is undrinkable shit you need to train and prepare for? It's not some incredible feat to drink a glass of whisky. Just try it and the worst that can happen is you won't like it.

>>13880732
Just recently a few weeks ago I brought a bottle of Aberlour 12 to a party with some friends who never had experience with whiskey outside of Jack Daniels and Evan Williams. They all thought it was way too strong and made wincing faces when they drank it, even though its one of the lightest least smokiest scotches you can try. Some people are just doomed to plebs forever. One guy actually started mixing it with coke. Feels bad man.

>>13880685
because it's pretty mediocre Speysider and very friendly to beginners. not great not terrible. on the same range with the others I've mentioned.

>>13879652
Glenfarclas 12
>>13879198
see
>>13875534

>>13865595
thumbnail looks like she holds a realistic dildo

I won this at an auction
Did I do bad?

>>13879652
Dalwhinnie 15. Great intro and not too expensive. Fairly rounded, slightly sweet. I think its one of the best in its price range.

Finally found a bottle of Springbank 10 after months if it being out of stock. God damn price is through the roof now because of these tariffs. Also got a bottle of Auchentoshan Three Wood. I gotta go back and buy some more bottles this week. These prices are getting ridiculous.

>>13882211
The prices are high on Springbank no matter where you are.
I haven't tried it, but I'm not interested in buying any of their stuff - it's way too overhyped.
Kilkerran you can get much cheaper, and from what I've heard, is fairly similar

>>13882234
Just wanted to give it a try since it seems fairly unique. 6 months ago bottles were like $55, now they're $80-$90. Unless it amazes me I doubt I'll buy another bottle. Other bottles I'm seeing price increase on are pretty much all the Diageo stuff (Lagavulin, Dalwhinnie, etc) and Glendronachs + Glenfarclas. Thankfully I got 2 bottles of Glendronach 18 before the price increase. Fucking love that stuff.

>>13878320
does every whiskyclub have that guy?

>>13881809
what was the price?

>>13882279
about 33 dollar

>>13882251
The Glendronach 21 went up 30% in the last 12 months or so. Since I had my first Glendronach about 7 years ago, I think the quality has slowly dropped and the price has rapidly increased.

Id like to buy a bottle of the Grandeur or a special release this year, but it wont be too long before it becomes well over priced for what it is.

>>13882382
Never tried the 21. Wish I bought it when it was still rather cheap. I saw a 26 year old Glendronach (1993) for $1000 at the liquor store I go to. Way outside my price range but it looks nice.

>>13882449
They do put out a reasonable number of single cask bottles and limited editions though. The site I normally buy from has a 25 year old for £250 or a 1992 26 year old single cask bottle for £450.

Im tempted to get the 18. Glendronach is my favourite distillery. Ive got the old 15, the new 15 and the 21. The 18 is £100 which would be expensive for me, but not unaffordable. But might make more sense to get something completely different and have some variety.

How do you go about buying whisky?
I like to try before I buy, and I enforce this as a rule for bottles over about $70.
But I've got two mates as part of my drinking group with a much lesser risk adversity. On of them dropped $200 on a bottle from their favourite distillery without trying first despite having a backlog of good whiskys they've tried before.
IMO that's ridiculous, I think it's a very common occurrence that the extra money buys you fuck all.
Sure, because it's your favourite distillery you've avoided the risk of not liking it at all, but you haven't removed the risk of the expensive bottle being insubstantially better at the opportunity cost of 3 younger siblings.

>>13882307
it's a good price for this Bunna, a decent Islay. you're gonna like it.

>>13882518
Thats a pretty good price for the 25 year old. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up the 10 year old Port finished Glendronach a few months ago. Can't find it anywhere.

>>13882617
It is a tough one. Try before you buy isnt always that easy. Either you try it in a bar, which can prove difficult to buy a measure of the specific bottle you have in mind. And by the time you have paid their mark up, after a few tasters youve spend as much as the bottle would have cost anyway.

Alternatively, you have a decent local whisky shop that offer tasters. For me, that never really works properly. Its normally a tiny drop of whisky in a plastic thimble, drank a few seconds after pouring. I dont find that gives me a great idea of how much ill actually enjoy it, especially with cask strength. You then end up paying 20%-50% above online prices in those kind of places.

Personally if its my favourite distillery, then im happy to just go for it. Otherwise, I read the reviews online. Im not normally looking for a hidden gem, I just want a decent whisky that I know I will like. Hence most of my purchases arent that risky.

Just opened the zillionth bottle of Glenfarclas 12 in my life. The same as always. This whisky is remarkably consistent in my experience and I've never once had a sulfured one. That's apparently because they hand-inspect all their sherry casks.
Nom. Tonight is a tasty night.

>>13882719
I have a bottle of Glenfarclas 25 i haven't opened yet. Might do it soon.

>>13882617
I just buy bottles that interest me based on what I read people say about it online. Generally base expressions. If I like them I'll continue buying other bottlings they offer. I've enjoyed most of the scotch I've tried but there are some that I probably won't buy again unless it's really cheap. I'm just finding which ones really grab me. As for the really expensive stuff I reserve that for distilleries I enjoy the most.

>>13882719
>Glenfarclas 12
overrated, imo. too much of some unpleasunt parfum tatse and flavor. but their 105 CS is absolute killer for your buck.

>>13882951
I feel the exact opposite despite loving the 105. I think 12's floral notes give it a distinctive, enjoyable character that most sherried scotches lack, and I think that A'bunadh is superior to the more expensive 105.

>>13882712
Sourcing the right bottle can be hard, but if you can't find it then buy something else. It's not like we've exhausted options.
Here whisky shops that offer tastings also offer the best prices available. And I do find a small thimbleful to be fairly representative. It's the best you're going to get aside from finishing a bottle over a month yourself.

>>13882786
That's fine for base offerings. It's even fine a little above that into cheaper finishes / distillers editions / 15 year olds. But there comes a point where it's no longer a small step up in price.
Also base offerings are easy to find and taste. I've got like 10 base offerings I've tried and liked on my to-buy list.

Have you not had an experience where you've dropped extra money on a bottle and found it to be worse or the same?
I bought the cask strength Glenfiddich 15 after enjoying the 12 and was shocked by its lack of intensity.
I enjoyed Glengoyne 10 and found the older ones to taste near exactly the same.
Old Pulteney 12 is great, as is the 18 - but it's only marginally better.
Talisker has some more expensive duds like Port Ruighe and Storm.
Ardbeg An Oa is not an improvement over the 10 IMO.

I'm drinking some Aberlour 12 right now, it's pretty alright. Abunadh seems to be popular, should I try it next? I've been mostly let down by the heavily memed no age statements I've tried before like uigeadail and laphroaig quarter cask and stuff like that.

>>13883203
A'bunadh is a fucking flavor bomb. It's intense in the best way.

>>13883008
I had 3-4 bottles of Glenfarclas 12, it is good, really good. but comparing it glass to glass with Tomatin 12, for example, immediately showed up this distinctive parfum taste I just dislike. but you, instead, find it perfect. so you're lucky to find you scotch, fren. I went for Tomatin 12, it fits my taste perfectely fine too when I need just easy go to dramm. and I constantly raplace it in my bar.

>>13883008
>and I think that A'bunadh is superior to the more expensive 105
wait wait wait WHAT? here in my area A'bunadh almost twice the price of 105. and even in Duty Free shops (I have an acces to one of those) a litre bottle of 105 costs 25 euros, and 0.7 A'bunadh 44 euros. wtf? Sure Aberlor is better, much better, especially previous batches.

>>13883062
>I bought the cask strength Glenfiddich 15 after enjoying the 12 and was shocked by its lack of intensity.
damn I always wanted to buy this one. I think I know what you're talking about. It's 50 ABV Distillery Edition (grey color label). Is it that bad? Okay, but I've tried similar one and that was fantastic. Glen Grant 15 yo Batch Strength. Decent shit, I must say. Really, really good.

>>13883361
105 is consistently slightly more expensive than A'bunadh in the U.S.

>>13883405
you're lucky, because A'bunadh is significantly better (tho 105 is still very good too)

>>13883203
There's a few non meme NASs. Abunadh is one of them; mostly because it's cask strength and exclusively sherry matured.
There's even a few we-don't-have-aged-stock-yet NASs that are pretty good.
Not to mention Japanese it-has-an-age-but-i'm-not-telling memery.

>>13883377
It's beautifully complex. But you can only drink it first because it is so so light. Your diet that day or any hint of allergys / a cold will mask the whole thing. I feel like I've wasted a fair bit of it because my palate hasn't been 110% that day.
If you were expecting more punch because of the abv, No.

Is Maker's Mark good or is it just mass produced dogshit?

>>13884179
It's smooth and inoffensive but bland. It's bourbon for women.

>>13884179
might as well just drink vodka, has more character and flavor.

>>13884189
>>13884203
What's a good man's liquor then that's common in stores?

>>13884227
Wild Turkey 101
Buffalo Trace
Four Roses Small Batch

>>13884227
Laphroaig

>>13882617
Try to find whisky tastings or conventions.
I went to one in March and just tried out every distillery I was curious about, to get an idea of their general flavor profile.
This way I could sort of judge which ones tasted off for me (for example all Highland Park had this strange metallic taste to me, even the expensive ones)

>>13850569
who here /patriotsdrink/

>>13884244
You're telling me there's a bourbon called "four roses" and it's not dick-in-every-hole fag shit supreme?

>>13884227
Ardbeg
Laphroaig
Lagavulin
Talisker

>>13884262
Yes.