/ck/ - Food & Cooking

For me, it's the leftover Trader Joe's instant coffee I have until I can find an opportune time to go shopping at off-peak hours.

Fell for the meme and got a timemore slim hand grinder, bought from a polish online shop(same price as the chinks) and had to add an order of coffee beans to get free shipping. Medium roast Brazil with sweet chocolate notes, pretty good for 6.2€/250g. The grinder is a great upgrade since I had a hario and a rhino grinder before. Now to get better water, living in a big city with super hard water is a pain in the ass.

>>13810296
>got a timemore slim
Good job falling for the paid shills and wasting your money. Now you are just going to want to upgrade past that mediocre grinder to something decent soon.

Why does my coffee taste off when I use Brita filtered water? It tastes like almost nothing even though the Brita is supposed to be good for coffee according to James's new video.

>>13808948
>>13809372

Yeah its the bean temp thermocouple. The little thin fabric sleeved one is jammed right next to the heating element, the thicker metal sleeved one is sitting just above the bottom of my roast chamber. I could honestly go up about another cm too.

I just extended my chamber up a bit with a simple spark arrestor design. I'm sure you can come up with something similar. Mines open at the top for when roasting outside, I just clip it shut and open a window when I'm inside.


Roasted up some more of that new classic espresso blend and some ethio Agaro Kedamai. My logging software froze during the eth and I didn't preheat the roaster for the blend, but the more I fuck up the more ill learn not to fuck up, so whatever. Probably v60 the ethio.

>>13809981
Blog time
>be me
>cashier at publix
>notice clearance spot has discounted coffee
>try to ignore as I already have plenty
>customer comes through with a couple bags of pic related
>talks about how its good and she always wait for it to go on sale
>still try to ignore it
>another day during Corona chan crowds
>chick comes through my line
>same brand but different flavor
>says it's the only brand her husband drinks
>not the flavor, just brand
>tell her about the one on clearance
>she goes and comes back with the bag
>yes_finally.jpeg
>work ends
>get home
>realize I need to pick up a couple things
>go to publix closes to me
>walk by clearance spot
>the same fucking bag is there
>say fuck it and get it
My rational is its still cheaper than coffee from the bulk section and only slightly more than buying two bags from aldi. Yes I know they are probably going to be stale.
>>13810308
From that video Brita basically strips most of the water. He also mentioned different ones might be better depending on your local water. You might have soft water that is getting over stripped.

>>13810302
Nah i'm good, i'm far off from having/allowing myself 200€ to spend on a handgrinder.

>>

Is this worth it?

>>13810869
It isn't. I have the same grinder. It's worth about as much as other really cheap hand grinders, which you can get for $15 - $25 usd. Although I bought that model unused from a thrift store for $5.

>>13810895
What do you recommend?

>>13810899
>>13810296

This is as cheap as you should go. m47 is twice the price and more than twice the grinder. You should only have to buy one grinder, so save up.

>>13810899
Kinu M47. Don't listen to the timemore shill ITT.

>>13810296
Get a zero water filter

>>13810947
>>13810929
Okay, I’ll save up, but that’s like $200. I want something to grind now. What’s the cheap alternative for the meantime.

>>13810899
I hope this is clear. Lemme know if you have any other Qs

Little peruvian I roasted up earlier. Little bit into second crack. Artisan cut out mid roast again, so once I figure that out I can post some curves for input. Might have to downgrade versions.

Bump

I am a professional coffee roaster, and have been working in the coffee industry for more than 12 years. Hand grinders are mostly lame, but nicer grinders get expensive really fucking fast.

>>13810998
Those are all trash, and about equally so.

>>13811491
Why roast that dark?

>>13812495
Hand grinders give better bang for buck in the sub 200 dollar range, well, some do at least.

>>13812512
You can get a Baratsa Encore for less than $140, upgrade it to the same burr as the virtuoso for another $35, and you have a grinder that will beat literally any hand grinder you can find. The only reason to get a hand grinder is for Turkish coffee, which literally no electric grinder will achieve.

>>13812512
I'm fine with "wasting" 70 grams of beans if its going to tell me more about how my roaster functions. This was with a new power supply going to my fan. Also sweet maria told me to...

https://www.sweetmarias.com/peru-fair-trade-organic-utcubamba-don-rigoberto-6220.html

>Tea-like vibrance is perceived at the lighter end of the roast spectrum, while at Full City+, the brew has impenetrable chocolate characteristics and showed the most impressive body of my three roasts. Full City and Full City+ roasts are perfect options for a cafe au latte, and certainly deserve a run through your espresso machine.

Bump

>>13810953
Watched the james hoffman video and apparently it's a bad idea to brew with zero particle water.

>>13810970

of you want a cheap alternative for the meantime, hit up a thrift store first and see what's there, otherwise just try to find the cheapest hand grinder possible... or just a cheap blade grinder that you can use for spices afterward - so at least you're not just tossing out its value.

Who else /barista/ or /exbarista/ here

I'm slowly coming around to the fact that I think i just like milky coffees more. I've drank black coffee for a few months, got a really nice one, but I can't get through half a cup without it starting to get sour/bitter and makes me coof a little.

I enjoy them, but I can't drink a lot. Whereas cappucinos i can just chug. I don't think its my brew cos its the same at coffee shops.

>>13813596
How you making it?

>>13813728
V60. My grind is pretty inconsistent (its one of those shitty nut grinder things thats just a blade and a button with no compartment for grinds) and just using a regular kettle. But as I said it's the same for coffee shops and when a buddy who is extremely experienced, its kind of the same.

>>13813596
I love coffee with milk. Get some puertorrican coffee (i rec yaucono selectos). It almost taste like mocha on its own.

>>13812694
I just don't understand how people enjoy roasty coffee. In fact, I've had it demonstrated to me multiple times that in blind tastings they find darker roasts unpleasant and prefer lighter ones.

So I have some hunches: bad brewing, whether it be from methods or equipment
Habbit, people get used to something and then seek it out and attempt to defend the time spent on drinking that kind of coffee in the past

I understand the desire to experiment - it's really the main way you can learn to roast on what you have. More power to you. As for sweet marias, anyone telling you to roast beyond city+ is likely leading you astray. Lighter roasting makes it somewhat more difficult to achieve proper development, and also cover fewer errors of roast. Dark roasts will always taste pungent, bitter, and roasty, maybe even charred. You probably won't notice a stalled or baked roast defect with all of that big ugly flavor in the way

>>13812535
I'd love to see some data. I also don't have data, but from what I've tried of virtuosos I would consider to be inferior to even a lido 2. With that said, usually the strongest price point of hand grinders is at the low end, with the aergrind and the timemore c-1 being the examples that come to mind. They have good, stable burrs for under 100 bucks. These grinders are each significantly better than an encore, and along the lines of what I've seen from a virtuoso.

>>13812535
Oh, and you can definitely produce a grind fine enough for turkish coffee with an electric grinder. For instance, a well aligned ek43 will do it, and I bet most well aligned grinders in general could.

Is pic related good?

>>13810418
Riveting blogpost
I really like how you described customers buying things at the store you are employed at
And how you yourself made a purchase
My.... America... land of the noble

20g Costco / Starbucks green bag beans grinder through breville burr grinder coffee maker then coffee maker function aborted and grinder beans scooped in mason jar

100ml just boiled water
Mixed in mason jar and leg steep for min while I whisk 325ml 1% milk
Add 30g organic Kirkland sugar to cup
3.5g Himalayan sea salt
~10g beef collagen protein

Pour coffee through stainer

Wa-la

>>13809981
>Cortado edition
I wish I could have a Cuban Cortadito right now. I didn't stock up on the Cuban coffee espresso grounds, unfortunately.

>>13810308
Just use more grounds, or maybe it's time to clean up your pitcher and replace the filter (maybe it's not filtering out what you think it is). Or, at the moment, your city water is doing a flush of their system with more chlorine. If this is a possibility that chloride/chlorine taste is tainting the water, it'll dissipate within 24hrs. Park the filtered water a day at a time ahead in the fridge (not sealed too tightly), and use the older water pitcher each day in the coffee maker, then.

>>13813873
Its really not that dark of a roast.

>>13813873
>bad brewing, whether it be from methods or equipment
Habbit, people get used to something and then seek it out and attempt to defend the time spent on drinking that kind of coffee in the past

You’re not wrong, but there’s nothing wrong with this. This is how cultures developed their own cuisines, due to the technical and cultural constraints. Personally, I grew up in place where people just drink dark and medium dark roasts out of mokapots with milk (not as much as lattes though). Frankly, even though I enjoy other kinds of coffees, nothing makes as warm inside as this method.

>>13813885
Upgraded baratzas can be good. provided you rip out the burrs, make sure your shaft is properly aligned, then have some shims cnc'd out to sure up your burrs. Still going to shit the bed after a while as the motor and gearing wears. Buy a hand grinder. If you don't like us shilling kinu, get a helor or Apollo bplus.

>>13814426
Are all Kinu m47s the same or is there one specifically that’s recommended?

>>13814455
They all use the same burrs and are aligned VERY well from the factory. The phoenix and traveler use a slightly different alignment system on the top, and also both use more abs plastic in the design. The full fledged ($350 or whatever they charge now) M47 is a chunk of steel inside and out. The newer m47 simplicity is a cut down version of the full fledged, uses more steel than the P or T. Phoenix and traveler(I believe) were designed and manufactured after a warehouse fire that fucked their whole inventory, so they designed a cheaper product to boost sales. All of them can swap out the lower burr for their new pourover burr. I've got the phoenix, I believe the guy who shills timemore has the full m47, so he may chime in.

>Bialetti is now making coffee capsules machines

How does that make you feel /ctg/?

>>13814563
I mean I get it. Last I heard they haven't been doing great and are probably trying to tap into the nespresso market. The real question is if they are going to make it better then nespresso.

>>13809981
chadtado

>>13814426
This sounds like a load of shit

Typically, I make my coffee using a Chemex or another pour over method. But I’ve recently changed work hours to very early in the morning. I can’t be assed to get up early enough to deal with boiling water, waiting for a pour over to steep and so on. Is there hope for me, or am I doomed to get a boomer Mr. Coffee with a timer?

>>13815186
There are different faster methods. Invest in a espresso machine or a momapot. Both are easier and faster. French Press are easier too though not quite faster.

>>13815081

https://www.home-barista.com/grinders/alicorn-achieving-precision-alignment-with-baratza-forte-vario-t59857.html


Is a $140 encore manufactured better than a $900 forte? Better factory aligned? Machined to tighter tolerances?

I want to start preparing coffee at home as I used to grab some at work but now that's not an option at my new job.
Most of the coffee makers in the store seem like a waste since it's just for me to drink.
I do love cortaditos/cafe con leche so I was thinking of going down that route. Any recommendations?

>>13815186
You could be a badass boomer and snag a moccamaster.

>>13809981
Today I made my coffee with brown sugar, cream, and a green tea bag

>>13815237
This, you can pre-set-up a Moka pot the night before and get it going on the stove the next morning and it's not bad at all. Ditto a French press. Sure, it's not a pourover but it's not boomer tier Mr coffee either.

>>13815237
French press doesn't take much time if you have a decent grinder. Less than a minute to grind and then 4mins before stirring, you can even let it sit while your prepare breakfast or take a shower.

Supplies running low. Cafe/roasters are closed. I don't want to pay for delivery. What do?

boys is it worth it to get the upgraded burrs for the encore?

>>13815081
>>13815485
Factory alignment is an issue even within commercial grinders. For instance, I have aligned a few ek43s that have required more than a dozen layers of tin foil to shim into alignment. Same with Peak espresso grinders. That's the difference of not being able to grind fine enough for espresso, to grinding a pure powder without any grit. So it's likely that that kind of misalignment due to manufacturing tolerance is wide spread enough that it affects nearly every grinder make and model. I would also postulate that alignment trumps all else in grinding - what good does a different burr do if the burrs have a 100um gap on one side while the other side is touching?

>>13815186
The breville precision brewer works very well, and has a built in timer so you can grind the night before (sure, not ideal, but not as bad as most people say) and have it brew the coffee in the morning automatically.
Pros:
>has a better shower head than a mocca master, and about as good as the bonavita 1800ts
>temperature control
>can do pour overs, and single cup
>preinfusion, and flow rate control

Cons:
>This applies for nearly all auto machines: not great at smaller batches
>most costly than the bonavita alternatives
The real problem with this style of brewer is that they don't allow for long enough contact time. For pour over brewing, you need to avoid channeling while achieving proper extraction levels. To get high enough extraction with a faster brew, you need to grind fairly fine. This causes channeling. So the balance point is around 4-7 minute brews, depending on your coffee, water, and brew geometry. Unfortunately, autodrippers are intended for at least 1 litre batches. This means that you either underextract, or grind too fine to avoid channeling, and have an uneven extraction.

The breville kind of remedies this, in that you can slow the preinfusion down, and slow the flow rate... but not quite enough for say a 320ml batch of coffee. Still does a good job, but I clearly have autism. With that said, for my first cup on a work day, having the timer built in is worth the loss in quality from something more ideal.

>>13818389
drink warm water

>>13818662
Also baratza plastic warps and wears after about a year and there's no repairing that wobble.

Is there any culture more autistic than espresso aficionados?

Is there any culture more autistic than espresso aficionados? So I received my $30 coffee leveler and plan on using it instead of tamping. call the cops idgas ))

>>13819158
>>13819176
okay Igor from canada

Pouring a cold one for the small businesses...

How does one make the perfect espresso with a stove top pot ? I love it when it occasionally gets that thick crema/froth on top. How do i achieve that every time?

Is it possible to make 0.5 litter with a moccamaster? Mine is old so it doesn't have the thing to reduce the flow for small batch.

hand grinders are a meme, just grind the coffee in a spice grinder in the morning

I enjoy light roasts in my french press, I find the oils balance out the brightness but I've still had problems dialing it in, it's often too sour/underextracted or flat. I've read this:
>Temperature doesn’t simply increase or decrease extraction, it affects the rate at which specific compounds dissolve, namely acids and carbohydrates. The hotter the water, the more acidity and sweetness you will get, keeping all else equal. However, you will also taste a shift in the nuance of the acidity and sweetness, and this shift will be different for every damn coffee. Brewing a sweet coffee at lower temps seems to produce a beautiful candy-like sweetness. At higher temps we seem to get more of a starchy, bread-like sweetness. This might be acceptable if it’s the only sweetness a coffee offers, or if the coffee needs sweetness to balance some bitterness or sourness.
>The basic rule of thumb I’ll offer is this. For sour coffee, decrease temp. Yes that will reduce extraction, but think about cold brew as an extreme example. It’s never too bright. If your coffee is bitter, increase temp. It won’t pull out more bitterness, but it might pull out more acidity and/or sweetness to balance the bitter.
and have been experimenting, lower temps with lighter roasts do bring out more sweetness but at the expense of the more interesting notes. Any tips for finding that balance?
Recipe:
>1:16 ratio
>medium grind
>90c (before pouring in preheated fp so it's even less inside)
>stir crust after 4 mins then let it sit for a minute or two to let the fines settle down before a slow pour

>>13821560
I bet you light cigars with zippos too.

>>13822328
>implying zippos aren't based

>>13809981
Doesn't coffee stain your teeth?

>>13817084
Did you enjoy it?

>>13822742
when spending 50 dollars on a cigar only to taint the entirety with naptha from a zippo. Thats not based that's just idiocy

>>13821780
Try a finer grind
That advice about water temp is exactly wrong. Use boiling water.

Your grind should be around table salt (you know, the stuff with iodine and a non-clumping coating) for french press. Much much finer than is typically recommended.

>>13822742
>Implying zippos don't impart the flavor of lighter fluid directly inside of your stogie.

Protip, bics are butane, but don't burn hot enough to remove residual impurities. Buy a torch. Buy a hand grinder. Act like a fucking adult.

>>13823275
>>13823141
To be honest, I don't smoke and I didn't know zippos can affect the flavor. I just think they look cool in a 90s action movie autisium sense.

i drink decaf

>>13823275
>Act like a fucking adult.

This, so don't smoke.

Thoughts on homemade cold brew? I like to chug as much coffee as possible in the morning for that caffeine rush, so I started using it exclusively. I don't understand the appeal of sipping away slowly at a hot cup to enjoy the flavour - I've spent hundreds on different "premium" beans and it all kind of tastes the same to me. I'm thinking of just moving on to caffeine pills, but that sounds like a faster path to addiction.

I can't buy local roasted coffee anymore because the governor shut everything down. It's time.

>>13823326
>it all kind of tastes the same to me
This thread is for people that actually enjoy coffee

But I do like to make cold brew at home, really nice in the summer

>>13823283
Burn a zippo and a bic underneath a piece of metal. Look at the black residue left on it. You're inhaling that, and its getting one every fold of every leaf of tobacco. Do the same with a 2400f torch? No residue.

>>13823325
If you're going to smoke, don't smoke junk. If you're not going to smoke junk, get a $5 ronson jetlight and a $20 palio cutter or plastic xikar xi2. If you're going to drink junk coffee, why even get a spice grinder. Just smash the beans up with a rock until you're happy.

>>13810970
>>13810929
>>13810302
>paid timemore shills
>totally not paid kinu shills
Dont fall for the kinu meme. If you arent buying a 3000 dollar machine, a 600 dollar roaster, and dont already have a 1000 dollar electric grinder, then you arent the kind of person who needs a m47, at least not yet.

>>13810011
FPBP

>>13809981
Picked up this Elite Platinum instant coffee from Israel and it is probably the only coffee I've honestly enjoyed black on the first cup.
A bit smokey and with chocolate notes, good stuff all around and the best instant coffee I've ever had.

>>13823372
just buy it online

>>13823420
I mean I bought mine. If kinu wants to send me out an m68 I'll gladly take it.

>>13823585
based Kinuposter BTFOs timemorefag YET AGAIN

anyone enjoy their coffee this way, it's how i always make it at home.

>>13823805
Is that the Vietnamese one?

>>13823820
yea

>>13815485
The encore has too few burr settings in my experience and >>13818807 is an exaggeration but not untrue.
>>13823464
To get the same quality it's almost double what I pay locally.

>>13823309
Same

>>13823100
The green tea changed very little if at all, it was just a normal coffee but with some extra caffeine/ anti-oxidants from the tea

>>13823893
How is it that much more expensive?
Also,do your local roasters not do online ordering?

Bump

>>13822815
Yeah, as every other tasty brevage. I don't smile though so I don't care what color my teeth are

>>13823805
As soon as I get a frother/egg beater I'm making that with my moka pot.

Any tips on making a good espuma for cuban coffee? I can't ever seem to get the right consistency

Hey anons, I'm new to the general but decided to stop by. I've been working a barista job for ~8 months now and love it to death, but my boss is a bitch. How hard is it to relocate to another coffee place? Starbux need not apply.

>>13827066
What do you mean, r*tard, just apply to another job. You can’t just fucking rellocate, where do you think you are? You’re a barista not a fucking branch manager for a coffee bean distributor.

Hello, what coffee roasters would you guys recommend for roasting at home? Interested if there are roasters capable of roasting larger batches of let's say 500g.
Thanks for any help or recommendations.
>>13827066
>8 months
Do you have proper training? Might be hard if your area has many experienced baristas.

>Visit Athens
>Greek coffee is some delicious shit, so buy some grounds and a briki when I get home
>Realize the absolute hell that is brewing Greek/Turkish coffee on an electric stove
A-at least it taste good

>>13827123
I'm in Michigan, so competition is a little on the tight side, but I did get Zingerman training in customer service and coffee making. As far as training goes around here, that's the best it gets.

>>13827187
There are no speciality shops offering courses? No barista schools?

>>13827194
Not to my knowledge, but I haven't necessarily gone snooping particularly hard for one. Is prior experience alone not enough to float a resume?

>>13827226
Depends on the place, there are people that study up to three years, not counting work experience. But I doubt you'll be looking for work at elite cafés, check what jobs are available first.

>>13827123
You can build a much better unit than you can buy. Start with reading everything at

>https://forum.homeroasters.org

and figure out exactly what you want.

>>13827451
>build
Nigga, I don't have the time or experience for that. You can likely build your own car, but buying one is easier.

>>13827460
Behmors are trash unless you're opening the oven and cooling with a much stronger fan(still not worth it). Freshroasts are ok but not worth the price. You can easily mod in a tc4 for roaster scope integration if you're willing to void the warranty or just buy a used one. I wouldn't get anything you can't easily integrate to artisan. I know people who are VERY happy with a stircrazy turbooven or a heatgun+bread machine.

>>13827484
I appreciate your advice, but I am looking for a "professional" home roaster. I do not have the time to build and tinker, I would also need to be able to move it to a shop later (small operation so I don't need an industrial roaster). I also live in Europe if that helps.

>>13827516
https://behmor.com/jake-kilo-roaster/

>Artisan Roasting Software- Direct Computer interface capable via USB port

>>13827484
>>13827545
Getting mixed signals here.

>>13826951
Anyone?

>>13827561
The jake kilo isn't one of their toaster oven designs. Look at the 1600plus. The jake kilo also has a 360watt cooling tray

>Behmors are trash unless you're opening the oven and cooling with a much stronger fan(still not worth it)

>opening the oven
>cooling with a much stronger fan

You should read a bit. Its also a

>"professional" home roaster

whatever the fuck that means. Like I said, go to that roasting forum and read. Figure out exactly what you want. A drum roaster, fluid bed, gas, halogen, electric, whatever. You want to be able to take temps and log them.

>>13827599
>"professional"
A good machine, and not a used popcorn maker. I do not understand your bit about Behmor either, but I'll go through the forum.

>>13827599
>>13827622
I think I understand what you meant about opening the oven now.

So if I get the kinu m47 do I need to get the pour-over burrs as well if im making pour over? Are the standard burrs good enough?

>>13827123
I roast on a modified poppery. Works very well,but max batch size is around 120g. Cost me about 60 canadian for the roaster and the potentiometer to adjust the heat. Cost another 50ish for an arduino and thermocouple. Routed into a laptop I have it charting in Artisan. Took a while to get used to it - they roast quite different from drum roasters - but I can produce very high quality roasts consistently. I've had some barista friends cup my coffees blind vs some local and non-local roasters and mine held up well against the top tier and blew the local roasters out of the water. The potential quality is there, but the batch size is small. If I built it differently I could have automated the roasts, which would have made it nearly exactly the same as an ikawa but for a 10th of the price.

>>13827807
Interesting, why don't you compete with it?
I'm interested in this Korean Bocaboca that can roast 500g at a time. Has also been getting good reviews, bit pricey to import however.
Where are you from btw? I don't recognise your slang.

>>13827831
Good question. I guess I've never considered it. The big roasting comps are usually with set beans on a drum roaster, so that wouldn't really work for me. Aside from that, I work at a place attached to a roaster that would probably not be happy about me doing any roasting outside of just for a hobby for myself.

Took a look at that bocaboca roaster, and I don't think it's a great option. No airflow really at all, so you're going to have issues with smokiness. The lack of thermal insulation around the roasting chamber will probably make it hard to get enough heat. Also doesn't look like you could get a thermocouple in the roasting chamber.

Maybe check out the freshroast sr800. Does 250g batches. But the heat adjustment is very coarse, and you'd have to manually log the temp.

Is there a specific reason you want large batches? When you roast 500g, that means you will have to create roast profiles by wasting batches of 500g. Pretty costly for just roasting for yourself. Also, to roast a week's worth of coffee for myself it takes about a 20 minutes with my roaster. I could do a month's worth in a little over an hour.

I accidentally left the coffee in my french press for over 30 minutes. Do I need to throw it out or can I still drink it? I'm less worried about the taste and more about it being unhealthy.

>>13827907
None of the boboca users mentioned an issue with smoke. Freshroast is an option too. I'm not the one that wanted a roaster right now, but I was given the task to start looking. The basic idea is to find a good roaster that we can use for personal use at home, but also to roast small batches of coffee that we intend to sell, so smaller batches are fine. We are both completely new to roasting so that explains my lack of knowledge.

>>13827807
>>13827907

Post your roaster. I've just set this popper up with a tc4+, still getting my pid parameters dialed in, but I'm getting fantastic results.

>>13826951
you have to add very little coffee to the sugar then whip the sugar for a while until it looks a bit like peanut butter. you are probably adding too much coffee to the sugar or not whipping the sugar for long enough.

>>13827965
If you intend to sell the coffee, then going for something that is a bit more robust and capable makes sense to me. It will cost more, by a lot, but in the long run you will be happy you went for it. In this case, look into the Bullet R1.

I would suggest going with something smaller and cheaper to see if you even want to try to sell the coffee. If you intend to sell outside of farmer's markets be ready to have a dedicated space to roast in that is up to health code. Which is likely going to cost you a decent chunk, which will make the cost of a better roaster less significant relatively.

I sincerely think that for the cheap end of things, you are best to get a poppery 1 and modify it. It will cost you the least, and give you the most control in the low end price range.

>>13827936
Drink it. Drink the hell out of it. Or store it in the fridge and make delicious iced coffee for later.

>>13828033
Looks a lot cooler than mine. Any reason you went with that digital read out instead of going into artisan to graph?

I don't feel like setting my roaster up right now, so I'll describe it to you.

Poppery 1 without a plastic top. Has a gash in it from when I had to cut the plastic outside of it to fix the inside after I dropped a screw inside. There's a popsicle stick on the side that is taped to the potentiometer. The end of the stick is next to a set of numbers corresponding with heat levels. Some wires poke out the butt of the popper because I only had absurdly thick wires on hand and they didn't fit inside the bottom of the roaster. A 3mm thermocouple is about a half inch from the bottom of the roast chamber, then goes out to an arduino and into an old laptop for graphing. I put a steel strainer on top to catch chaff then have a big fan aiming upward that I use for cooling.

As jank as possible while still doing everything I want, as seems to be my style.

>>13828051
We have a roaster already for the majority of our coffee, but the idea is that we'll roast our best coffee fresh certain days. It'll be very small volumes but I agree with your suggestion. Will likely start with the freshroast for home use. Maybe I'll build my own boot-leg roaster later. Thanks for the help.

>>13809981
Why do so many people here hate nespresso? I tried a couple coffee pods and they tasted pretty good.

>>13809981
I just made some Vietnamese-style mocha by mixing together condensed milk and cocoa powder. Makes cheap instant coffee taste bretty good.

>>13828125
Simular reasons why people hate Keurig.

>>13828150
Sorry I'm new to /ctg/. Why do people hate keurig?

>>13827451
Where do I start with making a roaster. I found the set up of that forum confusing.

>>13828165
All good man. We are chill here.
>pods cost too much
>pointless waste from pods
>machines tend to be pricey
Even trying to save money and environment buy using reusable pods, it still produces coffee quality that is below even a cheap drip machine.

>>13828195
Ah gotcha. Makes sense. Yeah the nespressos are convenient but pretty expensive.

>>13828165
Can't brew for shit. It is fundamentally flawed in multiple ways:
Too little ground coffee per water amount
Water temperature too low
Grind size too big for contact time
Expensive as shit
Locked into low quality coffee

>>13828180
Buy a poppery 1 off of ebay
Buy a 2000 watt dimmer (https://www.amazon.ca/uniquegoods-50-220V-Constant-Voltage-controller/dp/B00QLH8530/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=2000+watt+dimmer&qid=1585178301&sr=8-6)) is what I use
Buy an arduino, a k type thermocouple, and the k type thermocouple breakout board.
Wire that up, write a bit of code in arduino's software
Write a small python script to read serial output from the arduino code
Start artisan and set it to use that python script
Badabing, you roastin' baby

>>13828071
I do both. I mainly roast on my deck with an old android tablet vnc'd into my desktop running artisan. That arduino shield has dedicated pinout for a display and it was like $7 on amazon. Completely unnecessary but so is building an arduino sample roaster so whatever.


>Has a gash in it from when I had to cut the plastic outside of it to fix the inside after I dropped a screw inside

Yeah I wanted to avoid the plastic on my popper eventually warping so I just ripped out the guts and screwed it into a coffee can. Way less fancy than you're thinking. Instead of inline potentiometers for the heater and fan, the tc4+ board sends serial commands to the board with a cascaded pid.

>>13828180
https://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-controlled-DIY-Coffee-Roaster/

Start with this. Even if you're not going to mod a popper theres great info. I'm using the tc4+ board because of the flexibility it'll offer when I eventually design a custom roaster. I want a gas powered drum? It can do it. I want a 1 kilo electric fluid bed? It'll take care of it.

This is where you want to be. Also look for the "All about roasters" section of that forum and dive into the different subforums.

>>13828331
Forgot the second link.

https://forum.homeroasters.org/forum/viewforum.php?forum_id=217


Rip off someones design. See how you can make it work, refine from there.

>>13828331
What does your typical roast profile look like?

>>13828590
Artisan 2.12 was cutting out so I don't have a complete log to show you, but I can run a roast tomorrow on 2.0. I usually put my set variable at like 415f, let the pid control my heater, 50% fan until my chamber heats up. Add beans, flip to 100% fan and gradually lower fan% as the beans lose moisture. Been targeting just after second crack to get a gauge of how my popper manages temp. I'll pull some shots here later tonight to justify another roast.

>>13828713
Why are you roasting that dark?

>>13828820
>>13828713
Just as an experiment to figure out the roaster? Do you make any changes to heat during the roast?

>>13828820
Because I can? Just seeing how my heater reacts while I tune the arduino code.

>>13828822
I'm not, the set variable is my upper temp limit. The onboard pid regulates my heater and will dial it down if it calculates I'm going to get higher than my set variable.

https://youtu.be/ykuUCXhGAC4

I haven't played around with a background follow or a ramp/soak profile. Just seeing how my heater reacts while I tune the arduino code.

>>13828331
>https://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-controlled-DIY-Coffee-Roaster/

this is very useful, thanks a lot

>>13828858
Gotcha. It's worth checking out people's temp inputs for their ikawa profiles. You can find some online and they are very translatable to a popper. And soaking isn't really applicable for air roasting. That's for drums where you build up a ton of heat in the drum then that gets transfered to the beans. I've found that with the popper it works to slowly ramp up the heat, as the temp transfer is so quick and efficient. And I've found roasts around 7-8 minutes total to taste best. But I roast quite light so you may find something different for a darker roast.

>>13828977
Whip up a background profile for me to follow tomorrow.

>>13829172
Hard to translate from my heat settings to yours. But it's roughly: 40% of Max heat to start after about 5 minutes of preheating. After 30 seconds, ramp up by 5%, and increase by 5% every 30s afterward until 2 minutes. Then do 2.5% every 30s until 4.5 min. Then let it ride. Should get to first crack around 6:15. Finish at 7:05 about half way into first crack. 100% fan speed throughout. Roaster on a bit of a tilt to get the beans moving around more.

>>13829462
So whats your max temp. What rate of rise are you targeting?

bought a moka pot and some coffee today, still need to get a grinder and whole beans for the full experience but for now some pre ground shit. ill start trying to make some cappuccinos and cafe cubanos in the future, pretty happy with getting a moka pot first since it seems i have options to make and try different coffees!

>get new gf
>she doesn't like coffee
FUCK SHIT NIGGER

>>13830196
n i c e

>>13829462
I'm just going to set it at 405 and ride the fan down to get you a full graph. Still going to second crack for more data tho.

Horribly sour shot, very intense. 15.5 in, 3 days rest. Need to go coarser. Tiny bit acrid since I dropped the fan too low and scorched a few beans.

Say bootleg coffee roast anons, mind building and selling your stuff?

>>13830196
Based moka bro

>>13829847
Depends. The temperature readout from an air popper seems to be higher than in a drum due to the high airflow. With that said, I hit first crack around 208c for this Burundi I'm roasting now, and finish around 212c. Ror is around 16c at 4 minutes, about 5 or 6c at the end. Steady decline without any flat spots or large shifts

>>13830238
If the shot was sour, it's likely to be under extracted. Which means you'd want to grind finer, not coarser. That or you are making the sour-bitter confusion, which is quite common. The acrid makes sense at that level of roast, without defect having to play a role.

>>13830245
Something tells me they would be seen as fire hazards. Something has to make the ikawa worth so much more, despite being just a polished automated version.

Plus, they're easy to build yourself. I winged mine and it took around an hour to build/code.

>>13828150
nothing I can add that hasn't been said already, but desu I have yet to have coffee out of one that I could really taste at all.

>>13830237
Been there

>>13830196
Get some tasty ass high elevation beans. Medium roast. Some milk. Best way to start the day.

Can someone tell me why the fuck american coffee culture is as bad as it is? I honestly never fucking seen customers from anywhere else be as retarded when it comes to coffee. I worked as barista for around 2 years both in starbucks and in your typical award winning speciality coffee shop and without a doubt american customers are the most retarded when it comes to coffee. Not the most annoying as customers dont get me wrong, thats probably the french or the chinese, but generally when it comes to any even vague contextual knowledge for fucking anything coffee related americans are just fucking retarded it seems.

>walks in
>can I get a cawfee
>yeah sure what can I get you
>I just want a cawfee
>hand him a batch brew because I assume thats what he wants
>uhhhh, what the hell is wrong with this cawfee?? its not sweet??!?! wheres the creamer????
>they then proceed to go apeshit when they realise that cream or creamer isnt a thing in England and noone knows what the fuck they mean
>they end up taking whole milk and adding like 6 bags of sugar to a fucking 8 ounce cup of filter coffee

every fucking time

>>13831459
Cause american coffee is just caffeine in a cup. Frankly, most people would just take a pill if it was seen as more socially acceptable. People who go to starbucks dont know or really care about coffee, that's why they get starbucks.

>>13831459
>noone

>Can someone tell me why the fuck american coffee culture is as bad as it is?

>>13831555
One time when I told a woman that we dont have just "cawfee" and she has to pick something from the menu she picked a flat white. Right after she asked what's inside, and right after finding out that it has "2 shots of coffee" inside she said its bad for her skin and didnt want it anymore.

>>13830950
I'll get you an .alog here in a few.

>>13830960
Shot time was way off. Wildly swung from 222 to 231 and its much better. My last scribble with this roast had me at a 230. Silky mouthfeel, very forward chocolate. Still has that acrid note because I'm too lazy to pick out the scorched beans.

>>13831459
What do you have against french? Usually they're pretty happy with a shitty espresso.

>>13830950
Still having trouble with artisan dropping the connection mid roast(its happened over usb and bluetooth now), didn't log the ethiopian. Roasted a peruvian afterwards and it stayed connected up until about a minute before I cooled. I didn't mention my heater is only 1040w, so if you've got a poppery 1 you've got 500w more of heat. I probably need to restrict the top of my blower to trap a bit more heat and make a more efficient oven, and I believe the jumps in the graph are my thermocouples briefly shorting, so I'll go clean those up.

>>13831673
Cause it's Anglo coffee culture. Sit around for an inordinate amount of time being pretentious fags. That or they're normie shits drinking their liquid desserts. You can call me pretentious but Italians have a the right idea. Drinks are simple and you don't spend more than 20 minutes, and probably less than 10 minutes at a coffee place.

>>13832729
Looks like a very long roast, especially for an air popper. What's the batch size? I've found that with larger batch sizes the beans trap more heat and it will roast faster, so maybe use a bigger batch size. Other than that it looks like you have a rise in ror after fc. What % of Max heat is this at?

>>13809981
I have some local coffee being delivered to my door tomorrow and some Happy Mug coming on Saturday. The Happy Mug is Zambian, which I've never tried, and the Local is an Ethiopian Sidamo. I will certainly be well caffeinated for the next couple months.

>>13815186
Bonavita coffee makers are available less than a hundred bucks on Amazon. They won't last as long as the better ones like the Moccamaster, but are a great 4 year investment. You can set it to have coffee made when you wake up. If you do have 300 dollars to spend then a Moccamaster is going to be your best bet. It makes coffee as good as most people's pourovers.

>>13823372
If you live close enough, most local roasters will deliver.

>>13823893
>To get the same quality it's almost double what I pay locally.
Nigga, every great roaster in the U.S. has free shipping right now for at least the next month. Now is the perfect time to try something new.

>>13830237
My girlfriend doesn't like it, which means more for me.

>>13833940
75g. Thats what I was using with my 900ma power supply, but I just stripped a laptop power brick and started using that. 4.5a so I've got a bit more juice to play with.

Can't go to the cafe to get muh coffee now because of lockdown.

Will have to go to the supermarket and buy iced coffee.

>>13835310
My place just has everything to go. Also they sell their beans,so I've been making cappucinos at home.

>>13823275
>hey i'm not drinking this coffee, the beans were ground in a spice grinder and not a hand grinder
please anon, you're embarrassing yourself

>>13833965
Nice

>>13835857
Just got this. Brewed it in my v60. Very buttery, but that’s all I got from it. No fruitiness whatsoever. Did I mess up my brew somehow? My brew ended up more bitter than expected as well.

Paper filter
Boiled water to 96C (expecting it to drop when transfering)
Put in 30g of coffee
Bloomed for 30 seconds at 60g of water
300g in the next 30 secs
And then finished with 500g
I swirled the v60 to get an even coffee bed

Im new to pour overs so I still don’t have a method that I find relible.

>>13835857
Didn’t mean to tag you on this>>13836333

>>13836333
How fine was the grind? Likely that you didn't get the grind right. Very buttery sounds like you really underextracted,missing out on thebulk of the flavor and just getting that almost grainy sweetness that you get on lighter roasts when you under extract by a ton.

Which pads are /ctg/ approved?

>>13818389
Coffee isn't that important. I'd rather not drink coffee than poorly prepared coffee.

>>13836471
Damn that’s a shame. I got the bag grinded on the store. I don’t have a grinder yet.

I just mixed some half and half with my tea, which I never do, and it genuinely tastes both too creamy and too watery. How the fuck do coffee shops get it right?

>>13837043
You can try a few things:
Extraction may not be the problem, water might be. Having too much carbonate in your water can give a full taste like that. So trying to reduce carbonate hardness could be a solution. I can help with that if you like, but there are a lot of online resources for it as well, so I'll hold off for now.
You can try preheating everything well, and using the hottest water you can
You can try adding a stir Midway through the brew.
You can try a larger bloom, maybe 100g.
You can poor all of your water after the bloom in one slowish pour to keep the temp high.

>>13837299
>and using the hottest water you can
How hot? I usually stop at 96C

>>13837389
That should be fine, but just boil it. The drop in temp from kettle to slurry is huge, so you won't be able to make it too hot. This is especially true for glass and metal brewing vessels, and to a lesser extent ceramic, unless they are really thoroughly preheated.

>>13838248
Okay, I have plastic which is suppose to retain heat better.

Got the bellman steamer. Doesn't look pretty, but it tastes good.

>>13838390
your pouring could use some work desu

>>13838390
Do you think the steamer would hold up for some time? I was considering getting one for some nice cheaper milk drinks until I can get the flair.

>>13838390
I need one. No other input.
>>13838408
They're built like tanks and replacement seals are readily available.

>>13838383
Yup, that's the best version. Sounds like temperature isn't your issue. Try the water and stirring.

Alright this ethiopian should have enough rest in the morning. What am I pairing it with?

>>13838401
I've had for about a week, so I'm still fiddling around with getting the microfoam perfect.

>>13838408
Just the rubber pieces will need to be replaced about every year.

>>13838408
Also I have the flair along with the bellman. Been making cappuccinos daily. I have the Lido E grinder which I really want to replace with an electric grinder. Manually grinding is the only speed bump in the work flow.

>>13839308
I don't actuall cigar, but anything on the mild or fruity end would work with a lighter roasted Ethiopian.

*sip* aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

>switched from turkish to moka pot
>finally can drink coffee instead of sand
>finally don't have to just autistically wait for 10 minutes before it's ready
>also stopped buying pre-ground coffee like a pleb and got my own grinder
Feelsgoodman.

>>13827148
Buy a small camping gas stove.

>>13836333
I would guess more coffee beans and/or finer grind. I would go near 45/50 grams for 800 grams of water.

>>13839844
This. I've done same.

Get access to water of ph7
Drink espresso/filter only
Cortados are fucking faggot fodder

>>13839849
I think he was saying his total water was 500g

Gas stations are the only places with coffee still.

is there a step up in terms of price:performance above Rancilio Silvia and equivalents? Are superautomatics the next level? Are they worth the significant increased cost?

>>13814563
Bialetti isn't even prosumer

>>13842176
I don't even know what that means desu.

>>13812509
Elaborate.

Can I get a quick rundown on how to as jewishly as possible try some coffee not made via Folgers and drip machine?

>>13842587
Can you try not asking as a /pol/tard

>>13810296
I got a Timemore Chestnut C or so, it's actually very good but the grounds holder is small, under 25g or so. The container is also not anti-static so fresh coffee grounds will stick for a while, Been using it since January and have had no issues with it.

What does /ctg/ think about this meme drink? I just tried it and it tastes like ass. I think I will stick to cold brew coffee from now on.

>>13842623
Replace j*wish with cheap then if it hurts your feelings.

>>13842587
Buy a plastic v60 and some filters. Grind coffee at the store(opening packages if you need to). Eventually buy a grinder and get whatever fucking beans you want.

>>13842587
buy some at starbucks
then invest if you like espresso based drinks

>>13842509
Ceramic burrs produce a less even particle size distribution. The lower burrs are not stabilized, producing a wide distribution as well. Ceramic wears fast. They are all roughly the same grinder internally, and don't do much better than a blade grinder and some shaking.

>>13842587
Spice grinder or blade grinder if you have one. Grind fairly fine and shake while grinding. Aim for table salt sized bits. Put grounds in a mug. Put boiling water ontop. Let it sit for 4 minutes. Break the crust, skim away the foam ontop. Wait 4 minutes. Pour slowly into another cup, stop before you get a bunch of grounds.

>>13823326
Cold brew is so fucking easy and so much better. Not sure why this hasn't been a regular thing for decades now/

>>13842911
It doesn't hurt my feelings, but it makes you sound retarded.

>>13842861
It uses instant coffee, can't expect it to taste good

>>13842861
You're not supposed to drink it. You're just making it for instagram likes.

>be me
>need a cup of fast really fast
>grab le cup and let sink water become of hot
>put tablespoon of instant coffee crystal in cup and then another
>hot water of sink
>splash milk to reduce hot
>chugg.jpg
>instant fast

>>13813596
>sour/bitter
What level roast are your beans. With "sour" flavors I'm assuming you're drinking light roast. Try darker roasts. Light roasted coffees are very popular now but I hate the sour/acidity which especially becomes apparent as the drink cools.
You can also take a light roast and use hotter water (above 85C) to help remove the acidity. Conversely, you can use lower temp water (below 85C) to remove the bitterness from a darker roast.

>I don't think its my brew cos its the same at coffee shops.
Most of the smaller coffee shops love light roasts so it could be the brew.

>>13842626
I've heard the plastic parts of the c1 make it less attractive than the other models, still is much better than ceramic burr grinder.

I'm planning to get a chink electric ghost burr grinder in the future, and use the timemore as a travel grinder. Read some good stuff about it on euro coffee forums and apparently James Hoffman is gonna do a review so I'll save up till then.

What coffee machine should you use? I prefer a French Press but I'm not exactly what I should be looking for?

>>13849413
What is there to look for? It's a jar with a mesh plunger.
Get a cheap one from Ikea or whatever and call it a day.

>>13849413
Get one with a double filter, stainless steel if you're a clumsy fuck, glass for aesthetics. >>13849422

Bump

>$149
Why?

Anyone tried making a Dalgona?

>>13851781
shitty meme drink

>>13851781
Just made one for you anon.
The conclusion: it's just for looks. The recipe even calls for you to mix it well once served, so there's no point in having the pretty seperation at all.
Non-retarded version: use the same recipe but put the coffee, sugar, hot water in a blender, blitz it a bit, then add milk and ice, blend, adjust sweetness/creaminess to your taste.
There's a thing where I live called an ice capp(iced cappuccino) and this is basically what it is. Cold, sweet coffee drink. Think of a slushie but coffee lol

>>13853416
Unnecessary alternative angle

I'm thinking of ordering a percolator. Any recommendations? Also considering a moka pot. I'm looking for alternatives to my usual pour-over.

>>13853514
Also interested in this. What's wrong with pic related? That looks like a good set-up. Also what's pour over? Like a french press?

>>13853514
If you want something more different from your pourover you usually make then you should probably get the moka pot instead desu. They tend to be slightly pressurized compared to the perc and pourover so they produce pretty different coffee.
That being said, you can probably make decent coffee with both with enough time.

>>13853536
>Also what's pour over?
https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Pour-Over-Coffee
I use a reusable steel filter sitting in a 36oz. glass jar and make two good cups at a time. I also stir it a few times while brewing, they seemed to miss that in their guide.

>>13851781
Is that just like a cortado sized cappuccino alfredo or what

>>13853867
>https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Pour-Over-Coffee
the top is 2 tbsp each of insant coffee, sugar, hot water, bottom is milk

I don't understand drinking other coffee besides just black coffee, don't like milk in my coffee, don't like cream in my coffee, none of that shit, why the hell would I drink a cappuccino or a latte like ever?

>>13854486
Because it tastes different and sometimes when you've already had a filter/batch brew 2 hours ago you might not wanna add as much caffeine into your system again so something like a latte/flatwhite/cortado which is usually only 2 shots of espresso is pretty good at that point. As for why not just drink americano is because americano is a fucking plebeian drink.

>>13823326
this >>13823404
but I do love me some cold brew. It's got a nice clean taste with almost no acidity, which I like a lot. Though I found that you're better off using a darker roasts since it doesn't draw out the flavor as much as hot water does. Also, has anyone tried taking cold brew from the fridge and boiling it? I haven't but I'm curious if it taste different than normal hot coffee

>>13854486
Ngl cappuccinos are strong in taste, the milk foam sits on top of the coffee so you don't get that real milky flavor at all.

Bump

>>13853614
>you should probably get the moka pot instead desu.
I think you're right. I might go to IKEA and get their moka pot soon.

I think I got the foam consistency down.

>>13857656
It's getting pretty good anon. Did you intentionally draw a dick though?

>>13857656
Nice

>>13857656
Getting there. Not glossy yet.

moka pot changed my life bros

>>13857656
Its a bit too foamy anon but you're on the right track. You know you did it right when it goes shiny rather than foamy.

>>13857756
It wasn't intentional, but I gave the dick latte to my wife.

>>13809981
nice im going to make me some coffee, anyone wants a cup?

>>13854442
>>13854486
>>13854896
>>13854955
>>13856310
>>13856509
>>13857656
>>13857756
>>13858253
>>13858333
>>13858417
>>13859493
>>13859500
>>13854977
Hey I made you guys a special chinese type of coffee. It took weeks to get imported but it was all worth it for you guys.

>>13859520
looks thai mate

>>13859520
Infect me sempi

just dropped my french press and broke it
i decided to buy a full auto machine now fuck this
what machine can you recommend ?
>under 150€ please

>>13860283
looks yerba mate

>>13860570
Switch to pour over. You can get a whole v60 set from amazon at $20. Never worry about breaking plastic. French press are for lazy twats anyway. It was a blessing it broke.

>>13828033
post that shit on diy thats awesome

>>13860619
best hack is to eat real meat.

sorry i'm not trying to get this in your coffee guys please carry on

>>13860638
too much work and waste
i like a full automatic machine with a grinder lol

>>13860570
An $8 size 2 plastic v60 should be in your arsenal. If you've got the grinder for it, you can probably snag a manual espresso maker off hb or somewhere. I'm not too familiar with the European second hand market, but look into it.

>>13860688
iam not familiar with all these tags...and consider that iam retarded too
what do i look for ? we have a nice ebay alike site with real cheap & good stuff to browse and find
give me brand names or tags ty !

>>13860688
just found a De'Longhi Magnifica ESAM 4008
for 100€
is this worth the machine ?

What's the next step up in brewing methods from a french press? Getting sort of tired of having grit in the bottom of my mug and want something a bit more filtered.

>>13860867
Meh, I'd still get a hario v60 and wait. World economy is fucked so you're going to find a steal as people start downsizing. hb is homebarista. You'll find a bunch of autistic boomers over there spewing nonsense, but theres a good thread every once in a while and an active buy/sell/trade section.

https://www.home-barista.com/

>>13860669
You won't get a good one for that price. Breville makes a decent one but it's around 250 ukbucks I think

>>13860897
Just use the James Hoffman method for French press

Am i making a mistake here? Anyone recommend something different, don't want to spend to much more but if something is worth it i will buy it.

>>13861269
That grinder is complete trash. You'd be better off doing the grind at the store where you purchase your beans or asking your roaster to grind them for you.

>>13861280
Thanks, Do you have any recommendations that aren't that expensive?

Little more of that ethio I roasted light. 15.6 in, profiled from 9 to 6 bar over ~50 seconds. Very very delicate flavor compared to the last shot I pulled. Probably a halfstep down on the grind and it'll be perfect.

>>13861269
Why are you getting that gooseneck in particular?

>>13861295
No. Any grinder worth getting is over $100 easily. You might as well just use a spice grinder for now since at least you can use it for something else after you get an actual one.

>>13861297
Cheap, and don't have any kettle at all in general. Don't really need an electric one. Recommendations for another?

>>13861306
No, I was just asking. I have a tea kettle that im using for now. But it's a hassle and a lot of heat is lost in transferring my water from a sauce pan to it, and I really want to get a gooseneck one

>>13861296
50 seconds huh? Sounds like a recipe for channeling at those pressures. Have you tried the method in the recent paper by Chris Hendon et al? I had some really good results with it back when I was working still - don't have an espresso machine at home. Using an EK43 and linea pb, I found that an 18 second shot with 9 seconds being preinfusion, and the rest at 6 bar, tasted very clean and sweet. Better for getting tasting notes than cupping.
What grinder and espresso machine are you running?

Any luck getting your temp probes to give smoother readings?

>>13809981
Been drinking drip coffee, cause I'm avoiding going to the store to refill my water jug. Been missing my moka brew.

>>13860180
can't stand mint, in desert it's bad, with savory food it's even worse, but I can't even take mint in my toothpaste. just nasty

>>13860192
Green tea, mint chip, and pistachio are all good. Green is a good color

>>13861437
I was actually going to fuck with it today. I just ordered 2 rp-sma extension cables for my bluetooth antenna, so hopefully that extra 10ft will get that bluetooth a little less finnicky. I guess I'll open my window to see if that helps slightly. I can go do another roast here in a bit. Just found out how to calibrate my probes in artisan so we'll get a little more accurate and I'll bump my starting weight up a bit.


> Have you tried the method in the recent paper by Chris Hendon et al?

One thing at a time homie. I'm still adjusting to the flair's new shower screen. The original gasket one is fucking junk and a $10 upgrade is a massive difference. Gasket screen would immediately get pushed into the puck from pressure, the new all steel one sits above the puck like it's supposed to.

>>13861159
Head Country Bbq

>>13861159
Actually, I complemented a friend on his sauce but he admitted it is a bottle of sweet baby ray’s, a diced half onion, a diced shallot, 1/4 cupish apple cider vinegar, a few tbs dijon mustard, and 1/4 cu water, simmered for about an hour.

>ordered Bellman steamer last Friday
>prima still hasn't even shipped it
wtf

coffee pleb here
which is better; normal black coffee or americano?

>>13862082
Depending on where their warehouse is you might be out of luck.

So I fucked up and had my bean temp probe backwards, had to restart the log. Its already smelling like a barn and dried at the start of this graph. I switched my pid input channel from air temp to bean temp and tuned it a little bit so we should be getting more and more accurate.

>>13862391
Better bean pic because paint compressed the fuck out of it.

>>13862391
Graph looks much better. Still pretty long for a popper roast though. Might be worth smoothing out the heat increases as well. Do you cup your coffees or just evaluate them with whatever brew method you use to make your daily coffee?

Garlic and onions, herbs and spices, lard

He looks like he eats easter eggs.

>>13859838
IIRC toucans diet is strictly based around fresh fruit.

I made pan fried chicken, spring onions and plantain. No picture because I was so excited I took it on my DSLR rather than just my phone. I haven't cooked in a long time, I've been eating the shittiest takeaway garbage, but I'm a pretty good cook and convinced myself to get back into it with the corona going around.
What the fuck was I doing, it was 10x more delicious than that shitty takeaway chicken, cheaper too. Pls god dont ever let me fall to the chicken jews again

>>13827936
Why would it be unhealthy? It’ll be strong as fuck, but sometimes that’s nice.

>>13862555
I'm just pulling shots after 48+ hours and the occasional v60. Getting artisan tuned on the cheap shit sweetmaria sent me before I turn my sights on the exceptional beans I've amassed. Once I iron out the kinks, I'll be able to draw a rate of rise graph and have the roaster follow it as closely as it can.

Here's an lb of everything in the stash, 4 more lbs of each in the deep freeze. Got a shitty seal on a couple bags so those are the varietals I'll start with.

>>13862662
2stoned, forgot the pic 3 brazilians (ruby, yellow bourbon, elephant), 2 columbians(huila monteblanco purple cat, finca el retiro cat), an ethiopian gold honey, and Loma La Gloria red bourbon black honey out of el salvador.

>>13863233
Question to muslims: how do you guys know that the food is actually halal? What if it is just a guy trying to get an extra buck by falsely advertising his/her food as halal?

I read the wikipedia article on halal food and it seems quite complicated. It might be tough to find source for stuff like halal meat.

5 dollars for chicken and rice no salad. Unbeatable.

has anyone tried this grinder? is it any good?

Should I bother getting the ceramic Hario V60 over the plastic? Sort of suspicious about the health aspects of pouring boiling water over plastic every day and drinking it, but is that really something to worry about?

>>13862391
how do you keep the mesh thing attached ? Im using a tin can but it has fallen out a few times while roasting

Also what would I call that mesh tube ? I want to get one

>>13839308
I like Domicans with lattes and cappuchinos. For pipes I like strong American blends, if that's your thing

>>13863316
the coffee looks photoshopped lol

>>13841220
Is that espresso or just a really small cup of coffee?

>>13851765
Because they paid some motherfucker out the ass to design an ugly pot

>>13864737
The way I sees it, Hario is a reputed, top coffee gear company. To make a coffee maker that can’t withstand the heat involved in coffee making would be a staggering oversight. I think the max temp info they have has to be referring to something like dishwashing or accidentally putting in the oven or whatever. Also, the amount of heat lost from the kettle to the slurry is big so even if you’re water is boiling, by the time you’re blooming it’ll be around 80ish.

I got distracted and let my coffee bloom for almost a minute. Am I gonna die?

>>13865303
Espresso, so like a 2oz shot glass.

>>13865424
you're gonna get poisoned by all the carbon dioxide expelled by the grounds
also mustard gas

>>13864766
Its literally just press fit between the roast chamber and the coffee can. Its just some leftover screen from when I rescreened my windows. Probably not the best option but for a prototype, works fine for the time being.

>>13865814
you are doing a service to your country thanks anon

>>13861049
Anyone here have any experience with this method? Every other french press guide I've read or watched always says 3-4 minutes for brew time as opposed to 9-10 minutes in Hoffman's method. His coffee grind and water/coffee ratio is also fairly different from most.

>>13865995
Yes. It is vastly superior. Most french press methods recommend a grind size that is far far too coarse. French press is the finest grind setting I use for non-espresso brewing. This is because of the very low agitation environment. With a pour over you are constantly pouring water into the slurry, which does a few things that increase extraction:
>moves the water and coffee around - agitation
>adds fresh water, decreasing the concentration of the water in the slurry, increasing the potential for extraction
>water flows through the coffee bed, causing water particles to flow past the coffee particles, causing turbulence, agitation, and increased interaction
For these reasons, you use a coarser grind for v60 than for french press. The reason that I think so many methods call for a huge grind size and a ton of coffee per water is because they intend to reduce the amount of silt in the cup. What actually happens is underextraction, and wasted coffee.
The hoffman method will lead to less waste, and less silt. Giving you a much better overall product. The cost is more time and care.

Both my parents have become addicted to drinking coffee, pic related was the freeze-dried BS, and my mom has migraines and withdrawals if she doesn't have her morning cup. How do I decrease their dependence while still letting them enjoy their morning coffee? Any decaf suggestions?

Tried the french press milk frother meme, I have no idea what I'm doing but my god it was frothy

>>13866744
Is this meme drink any good? I usually disregard instant coffee, though im not opposed to a sweet coffee drink treat sometimes.

>>13867557
should have steamed the milk more desu

>>13867742
I heat it in a small pot until my infrared thermometer showed 155F then used the french press for maybe 15-20 seconds

>>13866744
>>13867606
Looks good. Hoffman has a video going over it. Avoid instant robusta at all costs. It's the boba tea of coffee.

>>13866577
just let them drink less of it

Ive tried a lot of decaf coffee and it all tastes noticeably worse

>>13868674
yeah in all fairness if you use "good" instant like he did then it might be alright

wont taste like coffee but I dont really think thats the aim of the meme drink