/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13746190
>beans do in fact belong in chili
No they don't

>>13746190
It's not chili if it has beans, it's just bean stew with meat.

>>13746190
Hmmm, I need to give that a shot, would provide a good textural contrast if you added them at the end.

>>13746193
>>13746208
What do you fags have against beans? Did bean(er)s rape your parents?

>>13746208
>>13746193
That's where you're wrong

>>13746193
>>13746208
Are you retarded or just taking lessons?

>>13746215
>>13746219
Beans are cheap filler for meat. It's fine to use beans as filler in a stew if you're poor, just don't call it chili.

>>13746231
Go back to cooking school you backwater redneck

>>13746231
>JUST MEAT MOM I ALREADY FUCKING TOLD YOU!!!!!!!

>>13746215
>>13746216
>>13746219
i hate beans

I make my chilli with only beans and corn. Is that not a chilli then? I'm not a yank so I just call it chilli because the recipe I based it off called it black bean chilli.
What else would you call it though? Spicy bean stew in the style of a chilli?

>>13746190
I find they work best in white chilies; their flavor doesn't really come through in red or green chili.

>>13746190
>beans do in fact belong in chili
Chilli is an ingredient, not a dish.
Chili con carne or chilli con carne (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈtʃili kon ˈkaɾne]), meaning 'chili with meat,' always contains meat.

>>13746233
>>13746280
It was originally called chili con carne which means chili (the peppers) with meat. At no point were beans in the original recipe. Call it what it is: bean stew. It's the same way that a carbonara stop being one once you add cream.

>>13746296
Oh I never made the connection between chilli and chili con carne. I always thought chilli was with beans and chili con carne was no beans.
Couldn't you still call it chilli with beans and no meat as chili sin carne?

>>13746231
>not a single person likes beans for their taste
Fuck off retard.

>>13746311
Cope.

>>13746316
I have very good tastebuds, which is why they get bored to death with the single note that you're insisting on.

>>13746193
>>13746190
beans make me tired :( I have to take a nap after eating beans

I recently made chili con carne without beans and was told it was the best they had ever eaten. Why are people so fussy about having to add one or two 15 oz cans of kidney beans? Do they think it's going to make it healthier? Maybe to increase the amount of ingredients used and have more food overall? I love beans but they don't HAVE to be with the dish. They don't add a particularly good flavor.

>>13746190
You can put some in if you like. I don't think it should be a main component, though.

i think corn goes better for texture
beans are fine too i guess

>>13746190
Corn belongs in nothing.

>>13746190
i dont like corn in it corn has a too sweet taste and not the most amazing texture

no good

>>13746315
Seethe.

>>13746303
No because then a bunch of texans will sprout hemorrhoids and chimp out on you

>>13746231
>Beans are cheap filler for meat.
Not necessarily anymore than any other carb that gets paired with meat. People have been doing that forever. It tastes good. When you eat "real" chili do you not eat any kind of starchy food with it at all because you think it's filler?

I don't digest corn, it makes my bowels hurt, also black beans gives me some serious farts, so imagine the combination of the two.

For me it's strictly chili con carne, no added beans and corn.

In France everybody puts red beans and corn in their chilli con/sin carne. We also put onions in our carbonara so I wouldn't really call us traditional.

>>13746717
Double stacking filler is povo tier. Water is the filler in soup. You don't need to throw in rice, potatoes beans and dip in with bread.

>>13746231
>BWAAAA I WANT MEAT! MEAT! EVERYTHING THAT ISN’T MEAT IS TRASH! I’M A MAN AND I EAT MEAT OR ELSE MY PENIS WILL FALL! MEAT IS WHAT RICH PEOPLE EAT SO I ONLY WANT TO EAT MEAT!

>>13746190
Fuck yeah I'm gonna cum.

>>13746193
fpbp
>>13746208
second post also very good post

>>13746280
>What else would you call it though? Spicy bean stew
Yes.

>>13746788
>Water is the filler in soup.

>>13746190
Yes to beans, no to corn.

I like chili with beans and corn. The sweetness of the corn really shines on notably spicy chili.

>>13746190
That's more of a relish.

>>13746788
>He doesnt eat cornbread with his chili because thats for poors
Wanna know how we know your opinion is worthless?

>>13747246
I agree chilli needs a bit of sweetness, but I find corn to be a rather intrusive burst of it, if you know what I mean. I like to add some 90% dark chocolate, a bit of demerara sugar, and a little cinnamon, gives it that hint of sweetness but more of a warm, earthy flavour.

>>13746788
>water is the filler in soup
>water is the filler in literally every food product

>>13746231
They add texture you moron.

>>13747273
That's funny, because that exactly why I prefer it. When it comes to sweetness, I prefer a small burst as to an actual consistent overall flavor, at least in chili. I can move the corn aside if I've had enough sweetness.

>>13746190
>beans
>corn

CHILI IS A FUCKING CHILLI SAUCE USED TO BRAISE BEEF. end of

If it doesn't have beans it's not chili desu. Call it what it is, ground beef soup.

>>13746788
tragic waste of dubs

I agree with >>13747246 but I will try >>13747273's approach in the near future, thanks bros

>>13747471
Chili con carne doesn't have ground beef.

>>13746293
So tomatoes dont go into it as well since chili con carne only mentions meat and chili. See how retarded you are?

>>13746788
>water is the filler
based

>>13748078
>So tomatoes dont go into it as well
Correct!

>>13746190
Optional, best used in small amounts to add some texture and contrast to the heat, but without making it all too sweet.

>>13746296
>the original recipe
>the dish predates recipe books

I was thinking of putting some lentils into my chili tonight.

>>13746756
Why does it seem like 70% of this board has serious digestive issues? You'd think digestlets and tastelets wouldn't congregate on a cooking board.

>>13749026
Why? 70% of every board is comprised of people that hate the subject matter.

Beans belong in chili. It adds flavor and texture. I like tons of beans in my chili.

Corn on the other hand does not.

>>13746190
No fucking corn. Why do Americans put corn in everything in one form or another.

>>13746190
Chili without beans is hot dog chili and should only be used on open face burgers and hotdogs. Anyways chili should not have corn in it, but if you like it whatever. I usually add a few spoons corn meal to tighten up chili and it gives it a slight corn taste which I like.

>>13746293
"Hello retard department can I take your call?" "Yah chili the dish, that 99 percent of humans know means meat, tomatos and beans with added chili powder. But as I know the origin meant chili added to meat it should only be that!" *hung up phone noise and static*

Thats like saying IceCream is only frozen cream and due to my autistic ass no one is allowed to add any sugar or fruit.

>>13749054
Americans invent chili.. "Why do Americans"
I am gay btw if that matters.

>>13749124
>move to Wisconsin
>hear autistic level ravings from retarded boomers about frozen milk

I'd cum in my chili before I'd put corn in it

>>13746190
Perfect chili recipe
>ground meat (chicken or beef)
>kidney beans
>black beans
>pinto beans
>grated carrot
>tomatoes
>jalapenos
>adobo
>onions
>corn

Served over rice. Cheap and filling

>>13749124
>it should only be that

>optional extra
>belongs

how about making chili with roast beef? would that be a good cut?

>>13749152
Never tried carrots, seems a bit much sweetness.

>>13749039
>Corn belongs in chili. It adds flavor and texture. I like tons of corn in my chili.
Same stupid statement. Neither corn nor beans belong in chili.

>>13746190
That looks like my shit
>Find corn in shit
>Haven't eaten any corn in months

is Stagg chili (the canned one I see posted here often on chili threads) any nice? non-yank here and they're selling them in my local aldi and am a bit curious but iffy about canned meat

texasfag here. beans can absolutely go in chilli. shut the fuck up already.

>>13750369
Wrong.

>>13750369
correct

>>13750766
cope and seethe and dilate.

Black beans
Corn cernals
Red, yellow, green capsicum
Onions

>>13746231
The only chili without beans is Texas Chili. The rest of the chili's have beans. Get over it.

>>13746326
Of course they don't HAVE to be in chili, but the people that get hemorrhoids over the idea of putting beans in chili have issues. I personally like beans in chili. To each their own.

>>13746190
fritos belong

>>13747216
Soup is the filler.

The whole point of soup was to make as filling of a meal as possible and use up ingredients that would otherwise go bad. Bits of meat, hard vegetables that need to cook for a while, a few other veggies that might go nicely, some herbs and spices.

>>13747465
It's a fucking stew/soup in this context you dipshit. Nobody is implying that Texas Chili or spanish/mexican Chili con carne recipe needs changed. We're talking about a fucking stew called Chili.

>>13746296
Oh shit.. we have to always follow original recipes now for any dish to be legit. That pancake you ate the other day? That wasn't a pancake cause you didn't fucking use lard!

>>13750881
Agreed.

>>13746190
u must be from new york city

Beans CAN belong in chili, but they're by no means necessary, OP.

Meat, spices and whatever vegetable you may or may not have on hand is the legit recipe for chili. Don't get it twisted, boyo.

>>13750810
The only chili is Texas chili. Everything else is a different kind of stew.

>>13751871
All chili is a kind of stew you nigger, whether it has fucking beans in it or not.

>>13751899
>a different kind of stew
Learn to read, you retarded fucking faggot.

>>13751919
I haven't had time to learn, I've been too busy fucking your mom you tranny nigger

>>13746190
I've always had beans in chilli

But sweetcorn, no, that sounds weird

Sweetcorn on the side would be okay

>>13746190
corn and beans means it's a succotash

>Succotash (from Narragansett sohquttahhash, "broken corn kernels"[1][2]) is a culinary dish consisting primarily of sweet corn with lima beans or other shell beans. Other ingredients may be added including corned beef, potatoes, turnips, salt pork, tomatoes, multi-colored sweet peppers, and okra

>>13746280
>>13752177

Why does /ck/ get so unbelievably autistic about chili?

>>13752186
It's worse than Italians and carbonara but it's always entertaining to lurk such threads.
Ps : it's called chili con carne, not chili con carne y frijoles y maiz you fucking beaners build the wall so you can cope & dilate in Mexico. You will never pass lmao @ your life no wonder Bernie is your idol you're a failure just like he is.
There that should keep things going.

>Chili as the main dish
Beans

>Chili as a topping
No beans

Simple as that

>>13746190
No, youve gone too far with that one. Chili with beans is fine. I even prefer it to regular chili. But you add corn and it might as well be burrito filling soup.

>>13752245
>if an ingredient isn't in the name it shouldn't be in the dish
Like every stew and soup on earth it's about making due with what you have. Cattle drivers weren't rich mother fucked creating top tier meals. They were taking what they had chili's and dead cows and water and making food. You would be retarded to assume the originators of the dish would turn down beans in the dish

>>13752277
There is no doubt the cattle drovers added beans to their chili given beans themselves were a staple provision on the cattle drives since they kept well and provided high protein and much needed fiber. The modern autism about beans in chili con carne is just suburban soccer mom suckled cowboy wannabee reactionaries who associate beans with mexicans and therefore reject it eventhough ironically holding onto the chilis, which are mexican as well. Typical retarded reactionary behavior.

>>13750881
Not that I agree with the person you're disagreeing with
But I do actually use lard for my pancakes.
I use it for biscuits and other things as well.
It's still very readily available.

>>13752390
Indeed my based and tolerant redditor friend, we must all do our part to stamp out disgusting regressive bigoted nazi attitudes, foremost amongst these being a dislike of beans in chili. Reject all proto-fascist chilis which are not legume-inclusive, and remember that #Hatehasnohomehere!

>>13746190
Hominy is the secret best chili ingredient. Trust me, I'm a chilihead.

>>13746190
>beans do in fact belong in chili
THIS NIGGA

>>13751381
likely some homosexual from the upper west side

>>13752177
corn and beans, real homo upper west side bullshit

I got a Mexican Radio
wall of voodoo mexican radio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyCEexG9xjw
Wall Of Voodoo - Mexican Radio

>Make tasty blend of meat, spices, and tomatoes.
>Add in fibrous indigestible peasant food that destroys digestion.
> WA LA Osteoporosis

the real game changer is carrots

>>13752518
>tomato
>in chili

>>13750876
"A stew is a combination of solid food ingredients that have been cooked in liquid and served in the resultant gravy."

The dish is a chilli sauce used to braise beef. Its not supposed to have fucking beans or corn. Your are talking about other dishes with similar spice profiles. They are not chili. Words mean things so when you something people need to know what you are talking about. When you use the word Chili to refer to a dish people think of a beef braised in a chili based liquid.

>>13752426

>>13752611
Are beans not a solid food ingredient you nigger? Beef and beans braised in a chilli based liquid is still fucking chilli.

>>13746190
Consensus is generally no, its something you really have to cook around unlike beenz. White chilis can be decent with it

>>13752553
Yes officer this post right here

>>13752553
>He doesn't make his chili with a mirepoix

The origins of chili, chili con carne, literally translates to "chili with meat".

The meat is the optional part.

>>13746190
>what’s the consensus on corn?
We will draw and quarter you.

>>13750357
It’s ok. Not great but not bad.