/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13737740
absolutely based.

>>13737740
no i dont think so

>>13737740
Anything that gets me sufficiently drunk in the shortest amount of time without causing an asthma attack is the superior form of alcohol
That narrows it down to vodka

fuck mate, gin and vodka is the shortest way to havy ass balls deep alcoholism, avoid by all means. wine, scotch and rum, and moderately or you're a fucking nigger.

also I think OP is britbong, and being a britbong nd not posting based Gordons, Sapphire Bombay and Finsbury is a fucking crime.

>>13737838
>bombay sapphire
nigger gin

>>13737867
He didn't say those were good, he just said it's a crime in the UK. Like downloading naked pictures, or having good taste in clothes, or not being racist.

>>13737867
>>13737872
but I must say to ya cunts, 47% Sapphire Bombay is pretty good tho. and the Botaniks, Jesus Christ, imagine paying 35++ more quids for just a fucking gin because of oh muh Islay.

>>13737740
Gin sounds like it should theoretically be good, and I have had good gin before, but most of it is rather boring compared to brandy and whisky.

I just think that the nuances of place and oak aging give much more than the combinations of botanicals in gin.

Hendricks is good also, but expencive bitch (for a gin).

>>13737990
this is better than normal hendricks but costs more

>>13737740
Gin is the only liquor that has made me feel brain dead the day after drinking it so I generally don't make it the main think I drink. I'll drink it in cocktails mixed with other liquors but never on it's own.

>>13737740
Bro, stop. I'm trying not to drink. Gin is my favorite.

>>13738042
Have you tried not drinking a bottle at once? I never understood this meme of people saying that a certain alcohol fucks them up. It doesn't. The amount you drink does.

>>13737833
Scotch is great if you like the taste of ashtrays.

>>13738047
Every other liquor hasn't had that affect on me. It's just Gin.

>>13738037
whitley neill almost as good but twice cheaper

>>13738048
there only few % of peaty / ashy scotch single malts. the biggest part are fruity / honey / sherry Speysiders and from Highlands. Only ones from Islay (and other rare islands like Sky) produce havy peaty / smoky scotches.

the question is should I drink today?

>>13737990
Hendricks is expensive for what it is, but still relatively inexpensive compared to good gin.

>>13738048
Peated Scotch fedoralords btfo

>>13738153
which do you consider as good? made by chinese virgins? honest question.

>>13737740
the only person I know that like gin is a fat girl that spergs out all the time about the fact that shes learning middle english

Is gin normally drunk straight up?

>>13738340
Most certainly.

>>13738174
Botanica and Brooklyn are pretty good and easy to find.

Patient Wolf and Applewood are my favourites but I doubt one can get them outside of Australia.

Either way, look for something small batch and local.

>>13738053
I've only ever had the flavored gins. They're good compared to a lot of other flavored gins in the UK which overdo the sweetness I find.

If it's not gin, it's not a martini. Fuck James Bond.

>>13738340
i like to add some sparkling mineral water

>>13737773
Shots of Absinthe my dude.

>>13737740
>plymouth gin
Absolutely based.
>>13738340
With bitters is a possible one.

>>13738389
>>13738388
best gin I've tried was small batch first "red" gin from Spain. this motherfucker pic related is on its own level and the only gin to drink straight up neat and the one that gives same amount of really deep multy dimensional taste, aroma and flavor as a good scotch or rum only can give. but motherfucker is rare as shit, my bud have brought it from spain, said it was 35 euros, and if I ever see this gin on a shelf I'll buy everything. and I highly recommend you lads.

>>13738444
This is available for 30 euro for me, but only has 2 reviews on my amazon so Im a bit wary. Have you had Monkey 47?

>>13738458
you really lucky bastard! buy it mate, and you'll thank me later. I know the price isn't low and similar with most basic single malts but this gin is on their level at least. if you still have any doubts just read some reviews on the internet.
>Monkey 47
unfortunately never tried it, here in my area they charge way too much for it. ridiculously too much. but I'll put my hands on it sooner or later/

>>13738473
I might try it at one point, but I'll go through the other high end gins first. Monkey/Botanist/Hendricks all cost 30 or less so it's quite hard to choose what to drink next.

>>13737833
>muh scotch
Scotland is not the only place in the world that produces whiskey

>>13738488
Hendricks is still a gin, I mean, you better put it with tonic. Botanist is the same, but fancy MUH ISLAY version with local Islay botanics, and Tinto is something else. If you enjoy scotch or rum, you'll get what Im trying to tell. You never mix it, jut put it in your glenceairn and drink alone. It's just different expirience with all other premium gins. Motherfucker is so cozy and warm, woody and gently juniper, and some berries, damn I want it again. but sure it's up to you mate. you're from UK?

>>13738513
yet they produce best whisky no matter what you tell.
>irish whiskey - hugely overpriced, grain content, not 100% pot still
>nip whisky - fuck helluwa overpriced, ofter grain content, often buy sctoch malts, ship it up to Nipland, bottle with their own brand and sell x3/x4/x5 more expencive, and stupid fedore-tier faggots buy.
>american whiskey - is it whiskey? no, it's burbon, anyway grain / corn whatever.
>leaf whiskey - mostely not whiskey at all but some shit
>taiwan / welsh / indian / swedish malts are good, but ridiculously overpriced too and mostly NAS

>>13738516
I like your passion, anon. I will definitely try it sometime this year, don't worry. I wanna form my own opinions on each and I can't be buying 5 gins at once without looking like an alcoholic. I'm from the country that produces the Monkey, hence it's so cheap.

>>13738531
>american whiskey
>only mentioning bourbon
>forgetting rye

>>13738533
Guten morgen, I agree wuth you 100%, mate. This is the only way to discover the world of premium (or "premium", depends on how would you define it) spirits. Not a huge fan of Ralphy but he says the right things, we must go slowly but wisely to develop our own palate. Cheers anyway (if you evr buy it make a thread here). Ha здopoвьe ;) нo мы тaк нe гoвopим, вce paвнo.

>>13738544
yeah, I agree and admit that, ryes are based and really good, but only you burgers can anjoy em because most are small batches and never exported abroad. but I like my Bulleit Rye and buy it from time to time (yet it costs here like most of 12 yo scotches, my ass). but anyway, good point, ryes are good. and Im looking up to order Woodford Resevre Rye too, but motherfucker is 46 euros +- here.

>>13737740
I could probably develop alcoholism over a summer quite easily by drinking gin tonics every single day.

>>13738692
Thats what I did and I kinda regret it now. Alcoholism isnt cool, kids.

>>13738699
yeah and thats why my first comment here was this>>13737833 anyway man I know how it feels, you can still pull this shit out as I did.

>>13738699
I can see it already, it's 40 fucking degrees again, I come home and just down a few ice cold gin tonics. Fucking great that would be.

>>13738444
Tinto is a Portuguese gin, not Spanish.

>>13738718
most based gins are over 40, particulary 47%, but yeah, you can mix it whatever you want and it comes home like heaven.

>>13738732
yeah, my bad. this is really Portuguese. pardonne moi ignorance lads.

>>13738737
Gin as a spirit for cocktails works so well on a genuinely molecular level, it's amazing.

>>13738750
absolutely, and better than anything else. probably because of some juniper magic? and especially with tonic and coke sometimes.

I prefer casked grappa.

>>13738769
>better than anything else
Eh, I think that those that are specifically designed with something else in mind (like, for instance, the Planter's Punch for rum), gin doesn't outperform. What gin does is that the juniper and herbal flavors of the gin mix with everything else really well. If you treat mixology a lot more scientifically, gin doesn't have any real obstructing flavors (scotches tend towards peatiness, you get very grassy flavors from rhum agricole, rye whiskey is very heavy towards the spice end), but it contains inherent distilled flavors which vodka doesn't really have. It's essentially a higher level vodka, especially because the inherent distilled flavors of gin have tendency to create molecular bonds with other things (quinine is the classic, resulting in the gin and tonic, but also lemon, lime, a variety of other herbal elements, and much more).

>>13738798
yeah I think you've nailed it, and also compare to "thick" whisk(e)ys gin goes down like nothing. like holly water, you can drink a lot, as much as you are able to absorb, and also somehow gin doesn't instantly shut you down like vodka does. motherfucker is smooth and genlte, and he properly lubricates you untill it gets just too late and boom, you're an alcoholic. the most insidious and cunning strong spirit ever.

>>13738834
I do like mixology a lot, but I'm glad I'm a lightweight.

if dubs I stay sober.
anything else and im getting hammered before work tomorrow.

GET

>>13738932
based. Im still in concerns. rolling too

>>13738961
nice one brother
cheers *clink*

>>13738967
well, I never argue with digits. here's my plan. I warm up with wine, then goes down the gin and then Im gonna finish it with Turkey 101.

>>13737833
id rather spend 60 years smashed than 80 sober

What does gin taste like?
i hear people say floral, botanical or whatever and I just imagine hand sanitizer

>>13737740
gin isn't a form of alcohol you fucking idiot

>>13739243
then you better never sober up in these 60 years or you'll regret so bad.

>>13739255
do you know what juniper is? pine needles? spruce / pinecones? gin tastes like norf. the rest botanicals in pecipe are barely relevant.

>>13739268
forgot to add. gin is basically vodka (fine grain column still spirit) and you can make your own type of gin yourself. just grab some juniper, put it into your vodka, leave it for a few days and boom, the lowest-tier gin is ready.

>>13739255
The worst stuff tastes like pine-sol rather than hand sanitizer.

>>13739366
damn I'd drink this

>>13739309
I think that might be a bit too much, leaving it for a day to twelve hours works. Anise, lemon peel and others might really help. But that's Compound Gin; compare and contrast that to regular gin, which is where the alcohol is steamed through the botanicals during distillation.

>>13739309
why dont they ferment juniper berries to make it?

>>13739380
I think it depends on how much of juniper you put into vodka. anyway, you can make this one too
>where the alcohol is steamed through the botanicals during distillation
but have to make / buy one of these pic related (there are many types of, I've just picked up the first I found). My dad made one himself, used to be a hobby moonshiner, now I keep it, but still too lazy to start moonshining smth myself.

>>13739397
You don't produce enough juice out of that to make an eau de vie.
>>13739413
Yeah, it's not particularly common unless you're a homedistiller/moonshiner. I've meant to start doing that, but it calls for way too much material for what you get, especially for what I want to do (applejack/calvados).

>>13739397
I think this doesn't work, because I can bet a pile of gold against a bucket of horse shit they tried and it didn't turn out well.

>>13739478
I have a couple of close friends who are deep into that (here in Russia it was common but now the shit is blasting, more and more people make it like hobby), and they make everything you want and say it's not that hard. but you can't make proper whisky / burbon / calvados / brandy without a barrel. and not just a virgine oak but you have to find the one which previously held some sherry / burbone or at least wine (but Im not sure with calvados, prob they use virgin oak barrels, here you cn buy one 15-20 liters for like 100 bucks)

>>13738564
Rye is extremely good but I wouldn't pay 46 Euros for it, Woodford here is $20 for 250 ml.

>>13739505
I had an acces to Duty free store here in my area (my buddy works in the shop), and 1L bottle is 46 euros (around 50 bucks), so looks like the price is similar. and the regular one Woodford used to be 32-35 euros but noe they charge 27 for some reason. Litre bottle. Anyway, compare to Bulleit Rye, which is better?

I've been trying gin. Started with New Amsterdam then tried Real Gin. Now I Bought Sapphire Bombay haven't tried it yet.
New Amsterdam had a better taste.
I just make gin and tonics though.
No idea what's considered good gin.

>>13739498
I can't remember what is for Calvados, but I live right in Kentucky itself, it should be decently cheap. Still, holy fuck, it's a shitload of apples.

>>13739578
here in my area are fuck ton of apples too, I think we live on same (or close to that) latitude. but you have a heavens access to ex-burbon barrels so it's God's will for you to make a based homemade moonshine. I'd definitely do.

>>13739608
Unless you live on the Caucasus, I don't think so. You might be living in Southern Russia near the border with Georgia and Azerbaijan, though.

>>13739658
no, I live just 200 miles to the south of Moscow, but we have a huge apple industry here too. also I though weather in Kentucky is way more sold and norf-tier compare to caucasus shitskin land. I guess I was wrong.

>>13739545
I thought at first you were saying it was $50 for 250 ml, not 1L, so that's not as bad as I thought.
Both corn and rye Woodfords are similar, they're very smooth. Woodford rye is the same as regular Woodford except for that distinct rye taste. Woodford is one of my favorite bourbons, but if I were to recommend a true rye whiskey then I'd go for Bulleit, it's way more of a full bodied rye whiskey than Woodford which is much smoother with rye finish, plus Bulleit makes a superb old fashioned. Just depends on how strong you like your rye.

Yeah, Gin and Juice is delicious.

Burnett's master race. If it's not high-end, then you'd better get the $18 handle plastic jug. Juniper forward, and not very complex, but infinitely versatile.

Put it in Canada dry seltzer with bitters, put it with tonic and lime with dry vermouth, or just spill it into an energy drink that you took a sip out of. The possibilities are endless to the alcoholic!

>>13739680
Oh, it is, that's due to other reasons, though. The area where I live (Kentucky/Ohio) has weird weather, though apples do grow plentifully here. If you want the true areas for apple growing, you go to New England or New York, which produce way more apples fit for it.

>>13737740
Plymouth is my brand as well. But my dad is a Beefeater man and my brother likes Bombay.

>>13739685
thanks. I haven't tried too much rye 2bh, but I really like Bulleit and can buy it for like ~30 euros here, so I guess I'll skip Woodfort. But they make good burbons, I admit that, prob because they use pot stills rather than column process. It gives more depth in flavore. But motherfuckers lack of ABV. In US market they sell 46% iirc, but here in Russia and Europe it's just 43.

>>13739761
and what about Gordons or Finsbury?

Been to their distillery for a tour.
£15 gets you a fun hour of the history of their gin, with a gin drink of your choice at the end.

>>13739773
Not terribly impressed with them.

>>13739894
they say Gordon's is the favorite gin of based duke Philip.

>>13738127
cheers faggot

>>13739970
cheers, cunt. Im still with this faggot wine and slowly getting to the gin. what about you?

>>13737833
>thinking anyone can afford to be an alcoholic on hard liquor when the shit costs $40 a bottle at least
the real alcoholics are the ones buying $9 gallon bags of wine

>>13739913
Monarchy is ridiculous. And what makes him so based? Other than fucking the queen.

>>13739994
fren, gin is cheap as fuck, and just a lit bit more expensive than vodka (the second cheapest booze after moonshine). we're not talking about fancy gins for posh brit bongs right?

Currently drinking this. 80% as good as beefeater for a few euros less. Thanks Lidl!

>>13740016
cuz he acts like a man would. gives no shits about tolerance, faggots, nickers and spoiled women and just lives his life the way he wants. Im not a royal fan at all, but I can reczll only one similar guy in recent history who acted the same and I'd shake his hand too. Frederik 9 of Denmark, just google 10 minutes about this lad, this madman really deserves that

>>13740064
I sniff a scotish banter out of your pic. why not buckie, mate?

>>13740081
Because he's clearly Irish you soft cunt.

>>13740342
is he, you soulless piece of humankind?

>>13738405
But any martini out there also contains vermouth.

>like gin
>like rye
>would probably like genever
>will never know, importers here don't stock genever

>>13740389
go and find the nearest DF store you faggot

>>13740394
Googling that only gives me a workout apparel brand

>>13740400
based midweek drinker, I see. send you a hug my fren, stay stronk (it took some time to type it while Im drunk)

>>13740400
Go join your /fit/ butt buddies in the gym jacuzzi then.

How do I stop only drinking the cheap shit and learn to appreciate higher quality alcohols?

>>13740394
Dwarf fortress store

Love gin. Definitely the best liquor.

>>13740389
My buddies are gonna start their genever production soon

>>13740822
Can they do that? Pretty sure genever is an AOC protected appellation.

>>13740837
Fuck AOC I do what I want

>>13740857
Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée, the same laws that protect things like Cognac brandy and Champagne wine.

>>13740047
vodka, gin and whisky all start at minimum $36 a bottle my dude.
the hands-down cheapest alcohol has always been the good old goonbag.

>>13740880
>what's a joke

>>13741062
I was going to ask if you lived in Utah, but you're also another bastard child of merry 'ol Engerland. My 1.75 handles are like $15 to $20, just start stilling at that point.

>>13741070
Jokes are supposed to be funny, for one thing.

>>13738037
looks like a bottle of cough syrup

>>13741062
>gin and whisky all start at minimum $36
are you living in Canada, my bro? why so jewxpencive?

I don't drink it straight but I do like a gin and seven.

>>13737898
Seething shill

>>13742082
flaming faggot

>>13738066
I guess Dewar's was one of the few ones then.

>>13742126
white label? yeah. but Dewars is shit tier anyway.

>>13740064
Idk about other countries but Lidl/Aldi/Penny produce some very good gins (and some other alcohol) for a low price in Germany. Like 8 bucks for 0,5, which is waay better than Tanqueray and friends.

>>13739413
Where can I buy this exact setup?

>>13742516
>>13742516
online, obviously. you can order it from anywhere in eastern europe I guess, and easily from Russian / Belorussia. would cost you for about 150-200 bucks max, but from good stainless steel and shit and will last you literally decades. .

>>13737872
How the fuck is a suit and a shirt not the pinnacle of male clothing?

>>13742529
I mean, I have a hardware store setup, but that one just looks more clean and efficient. Obviously, it's illegal to still in this "free country." Brewing and winemaking is open since the Carter administration, but the tax man still wants its share of revenue from spirits, so it makes it harder to find out-in-the-open purpose-built stills like that picture.

>>13742555
then you can easily make it yourself. really, just read some online manual, basically it is just a metal barrel with some added things. and you can make fuck ton of good spirits out of that, from gin to malt "whiskys", calvados or grape spirit like grappa. it is illegal, I guess, but who can find it? no one cares until you start smuggling and selling out your spirit.

>>13742575
Yep, I have a pot, sleeve, coil, thump, and thermometer. It works fine, but it's kind of a bitch to get set up, which makes my lazy ass distill less. Will have to look into getting a more efficient set-up.

>>13740837
Nope

The four peel is my all time favorite gin, the guild series is quite good but very different. I don't care for barrel aged gins

>>13737740
Plymouth is my favourite that I can get easily.
If I'm in a proper shop, I'll get Tarquin's.

>>13740016
Fuck off R*publican

Picked up a handle of Bombay Sapphire the other day and I'm not sure what to do with it other than G&Ts. Any simple mixes you would recommend, /ck/?

>>13738412
I remember having a blast drinking absinthe. Would absolutely recommend. Just make sure you get the sugar.

>>13743685
canned pineapple juice baby

>>13743685
Bombay Sapphire is just absolute perfect with tonic, especially if you have that 47% ABV one. you can also mix it with coak, but it's just a lit bit worse.

>>13743685
A few ones:
>2 parts gin, 1 parts lemon or lime juice, 1 parts syrup of your choice
The basic sour, but open to infinite variations with the syrup (literally just boil water and sugar in equal proportions, unless it's maple syrup). Cinnamon syrup? Pomegranate syrup? Maple syrup? Honey syrup? Do whatever you want. Experiment down that route. And, if you want simplicity, just do simple syrup.
>2 parts gin, 1 part dry vermouth
The Martini. Can't go wrong with the classic.
>an Old-Fashioned, but with gin
This works really well, and gin is such a nice spirit, it'll work with whatever you have at hand.
>3 parts gin, 1 part lemon/lime/grapefruit juice, 1 part syrup of your choice, 2 parts pineapple juice
Alright, this sounds a bit weird, but it dives into tiki, and it works very nicely.
>3 parts gin, 2 parts orange juice, barspoon of grenadine, dash of absinthe if you have it
The Monkey Gland. Honestly, a really fun drink.

>>13741702
You can get like a litre of gin for 20 bucks even here in Vancouver so no

>>13743899
Canadians pay too fucking much for booze, and half the provinces have state-run cartels on beer too. Fuck if I had to live in that frozen shithole, I'd be stilling.

>>13737740
gin tonic or martini?

>>13740064
This one is just as good as the other low end gins.

>>13742207
I'm the guy that posted the pic. Here in Portugal Hampstead Gin is 6,80€ for 0.5L. Great gin for the money, not as good as Wild Burrow tho, which is another Lidl exclusive that costs 13€ for 0.7L. Wild Burrow is an amazing gin for the money, fragrant, strong coriander/cucumber note. Better than Bombay Saphire, and cheaper too of course.

If any of you on this thread have access to Wild Burrow, buy it. Even at 25 buck a bottle it's a great value.

>>13744612
since you're from Portugal you drink Tinto, best gin in the world>>13738444

>>13744640
I'm the one that corrected that posted who said it's a spanish gin, lmao

I never had Tinto yet, it's a bit out of my budget (30€ for a 0,7 bottle here)

I think Gin is pretty is bad, only thing worse in Ouzo, now that's downright disgusting

>>13737740
Only ever had it once, it's the only booze that's made me blackout.

>>13740880

Is this any good lads?

>>13745564
It is, yeah. Had it from Sainsbury's last year. Made a lovely G&T

>>13737740
Oh, I wouldn't go that far.

>Cask strength
Check
>Oaked
Check
>Aged
That's a solid no
>Sherry finish
Nope
>Peat
Nope
>Price
Nope

And then there's the fact that each gin contains 10 random botanicals meaning the quality of any bottle is a complete fucking dice roll.

Gin is decidedly mid-low tier. Your chances would be better comparing G&T to beer.

Methanol is the best alcohol. Very polar and miscible with chloroform and other alcohols for Folch extractions. Ethyl alcoholets on suicide watch

Dichloromethan and THF are truly the best solvents though.

>>13737740
It's funny because the few times I've mentioned that Gin and Tonic is one of the few drinks I like my family looks at me in horror and tells me that's what killed my grandpa. Apparently he couldn't put the stuff down and the jaundice and liver failure got him.

>>13745405
Because it tastes so good you can't stop drinking, I bet.