/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Is it failing? I have some in my freezer right now. They're pretty good.

>>13698143
>fake product more expensive than the real thing
I wonder

Too expensive, beans are cheaper

>>13698143
Because it sucks. General rule of thumb:
>if your dog won't eat it, neither should you.

>>13698147
Found the faggot. How many other estrogen products do you regularly eat?

>>13698157
retard parroting paid propaganda FOR FREE

>>13698157
Just your mother's pussy.

>>13698164
I'll fuck your mom for free too, just like all the niggers that do it on a nightly basis.

hey ck could you guys actually make some worthwhile posts or are you just gonna shitpost all day?

>>13698169
You're posting a shitty vegan product and expecting anything other than shitposting?

>>13698173
How is it a vegan product?

>>13698178
Because anyone who isn't a retarded vegan bitch will just eat a quarter pounder instead of this bean and cauliflower based bullshit.

>>13698187
found the fatty

>>13698187
That's just not true though. There are plenty of non-vegans eating plant-based burgers.

>>13698192
Found the vegan faggot who is losing his sanity by not getting enough vitamins.

>>13698203
Name 2.

>>13698203
No they aren't, because vegans are their only audience. To the world of zoomers today this is just a failed millennial marketing tool. Beyond meat didn't work on us

They're just comically expensive for what amounts to alright frozen burger-quality meat. You could buy a nice steak for the price of this stuff.

They're good hamburgers but they really should have focused more on lowering the costs, people are only buying these as a novelty at best.

>>13698210
>>13698216
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/almost-90-percent-people-eating-non-meat-burgers-are-not-n1082146

cope

>>13698210
>>13698216
>An estimated 70% of Beyond Burger fans are meat eaters, not vegans/vegetarians
https://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Article/2018/01/12/An-estimated-70-of-Beyond-Burger-fans-are-meat-eaters-not-vegans-vegetarians-says-Beyond-Meat

>>13698219
>>13698221
They're trying it while the fad is still getting going and then quickly realizing "wow this tastes like shit"

Hence the backlash and why it's flopping

It's still at 500% of IPO and they have a lot of money in the bank. The overinflated expectations will shrink and the stock will probably crash, but I doubt the company will fail.

>>13698219
>>13698221
Piss off with your automated responses.

>>13698231
>nooo stop pointing out that i'm retarded and wrong

>>13698150
Black beans honestly taste fine on their own

>>13698203
I will eat a vegie sandwich any day, but i won't touch this ungodly abomination.

>>13698143
>>13698149
I eat it and make vegan carne asada with it, I put lime juice on it to make it more like real carne asada

>>13698218
You can't lower the cost on hyper-processed products because it will be sold at a loss.

>>13698231
stop posting

>>13698240
>>13698364
>completely ignores the other post

>>13698155
My dog won't eat banana

>>13698572
Take a hint

>>13698143
Because everyone knows about the estrogen.

>>13698572
well.....................

It doesn't appeal to anyone, vegans think meat is gross, and meat eaters just eat meat.

>>13698591
Wrong.
see >>13698221
and >>13698219

>>13698292
based discerning anon

>>13698143
Because its not that much better for you than regular beef.
Especially the sodium.

>>13698155
my dog eats it own shit. he's obviously no authority on taste

It is actual frankenfood, tastes horrible, more expensive, and less nutritious

>>13698143
expensive as fuck with superior alternativese (see: black bean burgers and soy patties of different brands). Additionally, people who are already dedicated to a vegan lifestyle for "ethical purposes" are not interested in "fantasizing about eating dead animals".

Because I have ground venison in my freezer and beef chuck roast in my fridge

>>13698143
idk why fake meat products are not appealing to anybody?! They look so delicious, are super affordable, and aren't processed at all!!!

>>13698623
That's a nice looking chop

Am I the only person who notices they've got a rather plasticine-like aftertaste? I think they're horrid. All the fake meat-things are bad for various reasons. Light Life is the least worst and outside the various own brands, Pure Farmland is by far the most horrid.

>>13698642
Ty it's tomahawk. Those bratwursts were good af too.

>>13698584
theres more soluble estrogen in a glass of milk than any plant products

>>13698610
>Implying beef isn't healthy
Next, what ? Water is poison ? Healthier to drink coke than water, the tv said so, everyone knows it. Coca cola funded studies proves it, are you anti science or what ?

>>13698143
People don't want to eat estrogen discs

>>13698667
>soyboy vs milkman
who will you choose?

>>13698221
>estimated
>meat-eater doesn't say how much meat
>says BEYOND MEAT
Sure.

>>13698143
Beyond meat always just sucked compared to impossible.

>>13698671
>Water is poison ?
Yes. Buy my based and redpilled waterfilters.

>>13698149
this is something that made no sense to me. I thought filler made meat cheaper. this shit is 100% filler so what gives?

>>13698802
I only eat plant-based water.

>>13698638
Random clump of red stuff
Honestly that looks exactly like steak or any meat, steak is red from the blood and that happens to be red too.

Mods I'm not trolling its just... it looks exactly like a puddle of blood from animal meat

>>13698638
what the fuck is an "earth-friendly butcher"? are we allowed to just make up arbitrary words and put them on products now?

>>13698149
more like
>every single vegan/vegetarian option is cheaper and tastes better
>nobody actually cares about the "meat like texture"

>>13698618
So does the guy you're responding to, so

>>13698822
The earth frendly refers to sustainability, basically we have to breed a new animal to make animal products, so a plant based product can claim to be sustainable if we just use our brains a little

tastes like shit, is expensive, and is full of frankenfood and glyphosate

>>13698833
butchers don't grow soy and process it, they process animals

>>13698143
It's not.

>>13698143
People checked the nutrition facts and found that they've got just as much fat and calories as real beef, and are full of sodium.

Unless you specifically can't eat beef because you're a Hindu or have an allergy or something, there's no good reason to eat these things.

>>13698192
It has the same amount of calories per serving retard

It tastes of plastic.

>>13700174
are the servings the same weight? Specifying per serve makes it sounds like one serve is bigger.

>>13698157
well since I consume milk and cheese I consume a tonne of mammalian estrogen.

>>13698292
literally non of those ingredients are bad or even questionable.

>>13698292
What's so abominable about that?

>Pea protein isolate
Substance found in peas
>Canola oil
>Coconut oil
>Water
Typical ingredients
>Yeast extract
Harmless ingredient to make it more savory
>Maltodextrin
A type of simple sugar derived from starch
>Natural flavors
Too general to say anything
>Gum Arabic
a.k.a. Acacia tree sap
>Sunflower oil
>Salt
Normal ingredients
>Succinic Acid
Found in amber and is involved in some mitochondrial processes.
I don't know enough to make a judgement
>Acetic acid
a.k.a Vinegar
>Cellulose
The sugars which make up plant tissue
>Methylcellulose
An emulsifier
>Starch
>Beet juice extract
Regular ingredients
>Ascorbic Acid
a.k.a Vitamin C
>Annatto extract
orange-red condiment and food coloring derived from the seeds of the achiote tree (from Wikipedia)
>Citrus fruit extract
Regular ingredient
>Vegetable Glycerin
The backbone of glyceride fats

>>13700424
Based autist, you really sound like you give a fuck!

>>13698143
People thought it was a healthier alternative. Turns out that’s only true if you think eating meat is literally poisoning yourself and the rest of the stuff doesn’t matter.

>>13698143
Because it's solidified dog food.

>>13698143
Disgusting chemical aftertaste meme food. "Why dont people like this artificial slop?" IF YOU FUCKING WANT A VEGI-"BURGER" make a falaffel burger, actually tastes great. Some vegi-burgers are not bad either. But the fake meat shit is disgusting, burgers, hotdogs eggs... Gross.

>>13698584
They know, but to the kind of people who eat this stuff, that estrogen content is not considered a negative.

>>13700424
Anytime you need heavily processed synthetic inputs there's room for unexpected impurities. Anytime there is very high temperature processing too.

>Coconut oil
>Canola oil
x-MCPD and Glycidyl Esters, very iffy.
>Maltodextrin
Produced with synthetic acids, kinda iffy.
>Succinic Acid
Made with high temperature processing of fossil butane, kinda iffy.
>Methylcellulose
Multiple synthetic chemicals needed for production, kinda iffy.
>Vegetable Glycerin
x-MCPD and Glycidyl Esters, very iffy.

The rest is okay. Natural ingredients and/or mild processing.

>>13698143
Why are they pushing this garbage so hard?
I'm pissed at one my grocery stores replacing their fresh made chill with this fake ass shit.

>>13698143
>Product marketed toward hipster and faggots that like novelty
>Rope in a decent amount of consumer early on
>Instead of selling out to some food giant and run away with the cash you live long enough to not be the NEW thing
>Die in debt because you couldn't create a real consumer base

>>13700807
Fair enough

>>13698815
>>13698638
looks like beans in synthetic sauce

>>13700826
Insiders sold 3 million shares in the secondary offering ... they've cashed out already. The company also issued new shares at a sky high stock price, so they'll not be in debt any time soon. I'd never hold Beyond Meat stock, but the company is not going to go under any time soon.

They're still the only major brand without soy/gluten apart from Quorn but mycoprotein has had some bad PR. So that gives them some market share in the existing meat replacement market, even without getting meat eaters on board.

>>13698143
It's more expensive than real beef and is therefore seen more as a novelty product or something you'll get so your vegan friend can enjoy the barbecue too, but not as a meat replacer for the average consumer. As someone whose cutting down my meat consumption I'll just eat something like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or ramen instead of overpaying for not meat.

>>13700888
But PB, jelly, and noodles are a terrible replacement for the protein you're getting from meat.

>>13700908
this is a terrible replacement for meat. i'm not going to give up meat for heavily processed foods

>>13698143
just ate 2 last night, shit was 10/10

>>13700908
I still eat meat, but instead of 2-3 servings of meat a day I'm trying to get to just 1. As it's all you really need.

>>13698157
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12725656

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Salvatore_Salomone/publication/233538635_Isoflavones_Estrogenic_activity_biological_effect_and_bioavailability/links/02e7e51f76e45a362a000000/Isoflavones-Estrogenic-activity-biological-effect-and-bioavailability.pdf

https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/130/4/798/4686688

eating /E S T R O G E N P R O D U C T S/ doesn't turn you into a fucking woman lol

that is literally the dietary science equivalent of saying 'GLOBAL WARMING ISNT HAPPENING BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS COLD RIGHT NOW'

i suggest you open a book sometime, kiddo.

>>13698229
I wish there were an actual place to talk about things like this
>/biz/ never actually talks about business
>/ck/ threads that have potential about business talk are drowned out by terrible posts

>>13701005
>HIGHLY PROCESSED FOODS

>>13700908
which is why vegans don't eat pb&j and noodles as protein sources, but as snacks

>>13701024
>cherry picks studies as proof
i'm gonna eat real food not machine made pea powder and artificial machine processed "meat"

>>13701005

>HIGHLY PROCESSED FOODS? YUCK! MY GRANDMA ALWAYS SAID IF YOU CAN'T PRONOUNCE THE NAME YA SHOULDN'T BE EATING IT LOL!

>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST UTILIZE CHEMISTRY TO MAKE BETTER FOOD PRODUCTS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND FOOD CHEMISTRY SO IT MUST BE BAD FOR ME, I KNOW BETTER THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE PAID FOR A CAREER IN DESIGNING FOOD PROCESSING

>>13701033
why does my opinion trigger you so badly?

>>13701031
>cherry picking
ah yes, the cherry picking argument any time someone provides sources :)

okay, show me where all the bulk of study is that eating phyto-estrogens has any effect on your hormonal balance whatsoever. go ahead, i'll wait!

>inb4 reddit spacing
>inb4 avoids the argument
>inb4 shows me something from livestrong.com or menshealth

>>13701043
'this is a terrible replacement for meat' (implied because it's processed)

opinion - a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

statement - a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.

you used the word 'is', you made a statement and it's a dubious claim.

The Chinamen perfected faux meat centuries ago. Beans, nuts, and bean nut products are all you need. The simplicity and low cost infuriates the western capitalist & the scheming Semite.

>>13701092
based and widebreadthofknowledgepilled
can tell by this post alone that you're a relatively experienced and well read human

>>13701055
Mock meat are ultra-processed artificial chemical sludge "food" which are unsuitable for humans to eat as far as health. This will not concern people in a wacko starvation cult so pls proceed.....

>>13698143
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>13698292
Honestly this doesn't look that bad, what in the ingredients do you oppose

>>13698149
>>13698807
because meat is WAY too cheap and it's a mass product that will sale regardless.

>>13701602
>Canola oil
>Ultra-processed pea protein isolate.

Consume at your own risk. I have no idea why this is even considered food. (Not previous commentor)

>>13701709
why are their gums rotting though?

>>13701127
yeah, I'm pretty cool. I'm also a vegan btw

>>13701709
>Ultra-processed pea protein isolate.
Pea protein isolation is a very mild process, moreso than whey. Texturing is not much difference from baking.

So no, that's not ultra-processed.

I just buy turkey burgers

>>13698143
Because they're disgusting.

>>13698584
Yet there are no measurable estrogenic effects. Who the fuck listens to what somebody named ‘Baxter’ has to say anyway?

>>13698143
It's a novelty.

>>13701046
Sources=/viable argument.

>>13698143
people grossly overestimate how many fags and trannies there actually are to eat this trash

>>13698143
ITS GOO!

>>13701760
Probably some nutrient deficiency that is exacerbated by pairing a shitty western diet with a probably poorly thought out vegan diet. There's some vegans that think eating excess amounts of sugar is fine because somehow its cholesterol that causes all problems in humans.

>>13701024
But estradiol is oral medication, they even sell some menopause supplements that are plant based estrogens. Test isn't orally bioavailable that's why you need to inject it

>>13701709
I have no problem with canolla oil or peas

>>13703382
they're a scam. they also sell phytoestrogen big titty cookies and pills in asia, but they clearly don't work.

>>13703399
Fair enough but i assure you estradiol works and it is orally bioavailable. A plant steroid that is an agonist at estrogen receptors will have estrogens effects if you eat enough of it

>>13701024
NICE finally i found a substitute for my HRT