/ck/ - Food & Cooking

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>>13694076
>Plus everyone seems to drink soda 24/7
some people do, especially poor people, most don't though.

>>13694076
I hate to say it because its cliche, but I blame soda. I quit drinking MT. Dew and eventually my taste for other overly sweet shit faded too.

>>13694076
>taste of diabetes
Sugar doesn't cause diabetes. It's the other way around. Diabetics can't handle sugar after they break their bodies from getting overweight. Normal healthy people don't have problems processing sugar, and it's your overall calorie intake that will determine your weight and subsequent risk for diabetes.

Why are americans so fat and stupid?

>>13694076
i love sugar :)

also don't lie, there is sugar in most bread. Our bread is the same as other anglo countries

>>13694145
american wonderbread is at least 2x as sweet as bread in the uk

>>13694168
Wonder Bread isn't an example of normal bread in the US. That's like thinking Sunny D is orange juice.

i’d say america is just food addicted because there’s nothing to do
most states are bigger than a half of the european union, but almost every town is a deserted wasteland with no capital investments
americans aren’t taught to read or exercise for fun in school and school athletics are monetized instead of being a hobby
not much for people to do but eat

>>13694177
>Unless you make a career out of drinking soft drinks, saving calories with synthetic pops is a little like trying to reduce by getting a haircut.
It's not wrong. Switching to diet soda has always been a lazy fat person technique for avoiding their real problems by focusing on the hundred or so calories they were drinking while ignoring the thousands of calories in excess of what's needed for a healthy weight that they've been eating.

>>13694187
It’s sad but true, our school system is so fucked. I blame the darkies, our school system drops standards so they don’t all get put in the special ed classes.

>>13694097
>tfw the pão too good to give up

Whoa, Americans put sugar in their drugs?

>>13694097
Europe is one country? There's seriously no variation between each European country?

>>13694097
>Europe
>>13694145
>Our bread is the same as other anglo countries
You have no idea what real bread is.

>>13694217
that also includes the UK. We should have dropped a few ranks now.

>>13694212
Are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>13694199
I blame the jewish people who continuously cut the education budget to fund the American military. And teachers do not give a fuck about their students because teaching is the worst profession ever

>>13694199
>>13694232
you us americans are a plight upon this world.

>>13694222
Yes I do because I make bread. Believe it or not, our nation of 300+ million people isn't uniform.

>>13694239
We wouldn't have to cut education to fund increasing military costs if the rest of you non-American countries would just stop being muslim.

>>13694076
I think a lot of people are. Just like European nations are going that way too. It's a conscious effort to avoid those things and look for suitable alternatives. It can be more expensive though. And people follow brand names. It's not "does America really" or "yuropoors do this". It's because of massive money and influence pushing us to do it. Not trying to be a conspiracy guy, but simple is better for your diet in general.

>>13694196
Nigger a bottle od coke is like 600 calories. For an average height woman that's 40% of the caloric intake she should aim for to be at a healthy weight.
40 fucking %. Sodas are murderously bad for dieting.

>>13694249
bla bla, don't @ me. you are exhausting to talk with.

>>13694222
>he calls that bread

>>13694076
I don't know, but once someone bought me an insanely sweet cheesecake that I hated at first, but eating some after the next several days made me think it wasn't so sweet

>>13694076
Americans eat corn syrup, not sugar.

>>13694196
I unironically lost 40 pounds in 6 months just by cutting out caloric beverages, and I was only 220pounds at my biggest.

>>13694076
No, they are actually HFCS addicted.

>>13694363

Same thing.

>>13694363
Eat both, but most of the sugar is from beets.

>>13694363
If we had continued to allow imports of Cuban sugar cane instead of freaking because they kicked out a corrupt fascist dictator, our obesity epidemic would be a lot less. Instead, we decided to subsidize HFCS so it was put in everything and allow us to explode to an obesity rate of 40% and overweight rate of 70%. Touche gombunists, we sure showed you!

>>13694363
corn syrup is very literally sugar

>>13694133
Asians get T2 Diabetes as low as 23 BMI and all they eat are carbs with their rice, noodles, and fried foods. China beat the US with more than 100m with diabetes compared to the 30m in the US, so it's not just being overweight. It's probably all the processed foods, oils, soda, but I still blame the spread of fast food across the globe for the rise of diabetes.

>>13694613
Can you post a source that links carbohydrates with diabetes?

yeah
that's the only way you get to whale size

>have 5 sugar free candies today (with sugar alcohol instead)
>feel like I'm gonna shit my pants all day
but the resulting binge was tiny compared to what I'd eat if it was sugar candy so overall very based

>>13694669
To be clear, I'm not saying there isn't a link. I'd just like to see some evidence.

>>13694299
A 20 oz Coke is like 270 calories. Still pretty high for a beverage especially if you keep drinking it all day. Probably why the original bottle sizes were like 6 oz which would only be 90 calories.

>>13694613
>Asians get T2 Diabetes as low as 23 BMI and all they eat are carbs with their rice, noodles, and fried foods
that's because fat causes diabetes, not carbs.

Blacks > Whites > Asians in terms of resistance to diabetes. Blacks probably have a higher overall rate because they're so fat to begin with though.

>>13694076
and Americans aren't addicted to sugar, they're addicted to fat alongside a high-carb diet. Carbs/sugar in a low-moderate fat diet is perfectly healthy.

retards will point at ice cream and cake and say they're "sugar" foods

>>13694097
That graph literally says it all. Subsidize hfcs producers and suppliers and you reach levels of obesity and overweight never before seen in a nation. Yet amerilards support it and even cheer for the most obese president since Taft.

>>13694212
>Ontario

>>13694076
this entire website is populated by numales who know nothing about reality

>>13694843
dietary fat consumption does not cause people to become fat as much as carbs do

>>13694843
>Carbs/sugar in a low-moderate fat diet is perfectly healthy.
Thats literally what soda is
What the fuck are you talking about, is this based off of a 1988 dietary marketing book? None of this is accurate

>>13694870
I just saw a stat about americans eating 126g of sugar per day
I bet this retarded graph doesn't count corn syrup or something like that
>USDA
lol

>>13694212
Actually fuck you on this one. I got that shit when I went hiking in the Rockies on a trip to the US and taking a little bite every evening gave me the best most refreshing sleep I’ve ever had in a tent. Fuck soda and all that shit but I’ll defend this easily portionable, wonderful product.

>>13694890
Corn syrup is counted as sugar by usda

>>13694076
Ya know how Europeans love beer and wine which have alcohol which is addictive? Americans were born and bred on rum which is distilled form sugar. SO ya we've got a good addictive history with ol' sugar.

>>13694239
>you us americans are a plight upon this world.
>you us

>>13694229
There is no added sugar in European sweets, you boorishly stupid burgerfat.

>>13694915
Lmao do you really believe that

>>13694896
>>13694076
there's nothing wrong with sugar, it's just that white people can't tolerate it
europe = darkest continent = no sunlight = no sugar
except for some sour berries that are available for 3 days out of the year.

>>13694076
just drove 10 miles just to get a decent burger

>>13694918
>>13694076
europeans should eat a high protein high meat diet, and limit all carbs or cut them out entirely.

>>13694851
Don’t post unheroic pictures of President Trump, please.

>>13694905
US americans. I don't want to call your country like the continent. Would be an insult to a lot of nice countries.

>>13694890
do you not understand how much sugar naturally occurs in things like fruits and veges?

>>13694896
ok, this is not what is going on. Civilized Americans (not the south) drink just as much beer and wine as Europeans and not region primarily drinks rum

>>13694915
>There is no added sugar in European sweets
lol what?

>>13694953
>i don't want to speak like a normal person in well understood terms so I am gonna be weird instead

It do be like it is but so why do you care homo

>>13694669
Well Asians sure aren't getting fat from consuming fat. Here's the first link when I google 'do asians have a high fat diet'
https://www.sutterhealth.org/health/nutrition/healthy-south-asian-diet
>“If you have a condition called insulin resistance, which most South Asians have to some degree, excess carbohydrates can’t be utilized by the muscles and are instead redirected to your fat and liver cells, increasing cholesterol production and your chances of serious health problems,” Dr. Sinha says. “Many of my patients who have the most excess body fat are South Asian vegetarians who consume no meat or excess fat in their diet, but instead consume lots of carbohydrates in the form of rice, breads, lentils, beans and starchy vegetables like potatoes.”
I see it a lot in my classes where asians are falling asleep and they claim it's a food coma, nah it's pre-diabetes. Also India has like 60m with diabetes and they're probably half vegetarian.

What the fuck is going on? Are ESL folks LARPing as citizens of the U.S.A.? Why, of all the gall!

>>13695366
I meant an actual scientific study linking a high carbohydrate consumption with a higher risk of diabetes. Not some doctor's account of his patients.

>>13695374
You type like a roastie.

>>13695381
You look like an asshat. Ta da!

>>13695376
>I meant an actual scientific study linking a high carbohydrate consumption with a higher risk of diabetes. Not some doctor's account of his patients.
I follow a very low fat high starch diet. I got no issues. I can filly my stomach with starches, like potatoes and oatmeal, and not gain any weight, and I feel completely fine after a meal. I do not have a food coma.

High fat diets (not all fat diets, like keto, this isn't about keto) cause diabetes. If you eat fried food, pizza, and ice cream all day you're getting diabetes. fructose is also not too good, but if you just eat straight fructose, like eat only fruit, you won't have any issues. it is the fat that wrecks the body. fat is really hard on the pancreas, and fat is calorie rich so it makes you fat, and body fat increases insulin resistance.

>>13695376
What's wrong with observations? insulin resistance takes years to develop as does diabetes, you can't force people into an experiment to test whether a high carb diet will make them diabetic.
>Cross-sectional and longitudinal studies show that higher carbohydrate diets are linked to higher prevalence and incidence of T2D. However, the association seems to be stronger in Asian-Indians consuming diets high in carbohydrates and more marked on a background of obesity.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30666980

>>13695417
>asks for scientific study and not anecdotal evidence
>UHHH I CAN PROVIDE SOME PERSONAL ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE RELEVANT TO THIS TOPIC, OKAY?
holy kill yourself

>>13695420
well I'm going to tell you about me because that's my favorite topic. if you want scientific studies you can do your own research. there is a TON of research on this very issue.

>>13695419
anecdotes are like the opposite of scientific recordings

>>13694076
>ugh even the bread has sugar in it
i swear to god, you people see wonderbread like 1 time during your singular mandated childhood vacation and it leaves the biggest fucking impression on you.

>>13695419
Post the studies in question then.