/ck/ - Food & Cooking

living in a first world country

if they ask how the food is mid-bite

In my country its fine not to tip. I still tip 10-15% every time i eat at a restaurant or order drinks. If they just tap a beer i dont tip. I dont care if the food or service sucks. Im not picky

I only tip because I live in a country where tipping isn't customary; people are always surprised.

>>13693012
It’s not illegal to not tip

Tipping should be banned.

>>13693040
Not according to some working in the service industry?

>>13693012
if you're black

>>13693012
It should always be legally allowed to not tip.
Though not tipping a server because your food took too long is kinda a dick move.

>>13693057
Depends if they where fapping around or just really busy. I've seen waiters stand around staring at walls for 5+ mins before I eventually had to walk over to them to get the check.

>>13693057
Why?
People tip their server to the food being good or coming out fast all the time, and that's not her doing either.

>>13693057
Waiting an hour for your food without some sort of compensation is a dick move too. I would've walked out on the service. Fuck them.

>>13693012
Always

The only place I tip at are bars, to ensure prompt service.

>>13693059
Oooo 5 minutes you poor baby.

>>13693040
This.

>>13693012
Whenever the fuck you feel like it?

Tipping is not mandatory.

>>13693068
I could've fucked ur mom in those 5 minutes.

>>13693012
My family likes eating lunch and dinner together family style, so we explicitly mention that and ask for extra plates before we order, but the waiters forget them half the time. More often than not, they take 10+ minutes to get us plates or they forget completely and we have to flag down someone else or get them ourselves. By then, the food is already cold and we drastically reduce the tip.

give me one good reason why you should tip

>>13693054
Huh?

>>13693120
Some waiters will insist you need to tip or stay home.

>>13693131
So...they don’t have to be waiters and they dont have any authority to insist on anything. They can gripe all they want but it’s not against the law to not tip.

They should be payed living wages. Tipping is just barbarism.

>>13693131
can you even imagine caring what a waiter thinks? lmao

>>13693068
They are being payed to wait on me, not to be waited on.

>>13693012
Every.

>>13693150
I agree with that. Everyone should be paid a living wage

>>13693116
So the waiter washes his hands before he fingers your food.

>>13693115
You just sound like an inconveniencing family, most restaurants have the extra bread plate, plus you can just put the other food on the plate you already have.

>>13693216
sounds cumbersome as hell if every dish is served on different kinds of plates and bread plates are tiny as fuck

>>13693216
>you can put the food on the plate you already had
Why would you want to pretend to be poor? And disturb the flavors even?

>>13693115

So you have the plates of food on the table, usually a meat and some side dishes, and so you grab some meat off a plate, a side dish off another plate, ... . That sounds strange.

I've been in restaurants with a family style option that served everything on platters and each person had a plate to put what they wanted on it. Most of those were either Chinese restaurants or barbecues.

If they don't serve family style, it sounds like a strange approach to dining. If they do serve family style, then they should bring the plates automatically.

I have seen people divy up the food between the plates before eating, but not all that often.

>>13693068
you're paying for waiter service. its not entitlement to expect to be waited on instead of having to go and get them yourself

>>13693150
>>13693174
so why don’t you tip other minimum wage earners?

>>13693064
I once waited 5 hours for steak. Phone died in the first hour so I couldn't even play Runescape while waiting.

>>13693309
Most places I've been to these days are completely understanding about a two people sharing the food, but a whole family doing that in a restaurant where it's not specifically family style might be confusing. Only one person should order and specify what they're ordering is for the table. That way the server completely understands that they are not personal entrees. I think anons family are a bunch of faggots who should stick to family style restaurants if they cannot go one meal without making a big to do about having extra plates instead of just trying a few bites of each other's food, but I think that plenty of American restaurants would be willing to cater to bringing extra plates without it being the hassle anon says it is.

>>13693362
>wait for 3 days
>they just keep eating
>clothes start to disintegrate from the acidity coming from their table
>don't even want a tip anymore
>just want them to leave
>2 chefs already died from being overworked
>fear I might be next
>this is how I died in the service industry: The Documentary

>>13693196
You don't pay until after you've eaten, retard.

>>13693012
>the watress takes a bite from your food before serving it

>>13693391
If you look poor your food will get fingered.

>>13693401
That's hot

>>13693351
Because in the US waiter/waitress make like 2.18 an hr.

>>13693390
Nah it was 200 people packed nut to butt inside this bar. 2 hours to order, 4 hours for a table, another hour to get our food. Cost like $100 for 2 meals w/ salad bar. Was awesome. 10/10 would go again.

>>13693406
>if you look black your food will get fingered

>>13693412
But everything is cheap in US.

>>13693057
>not tipping a server because your food took too long
if it's not out in 10-15min then you're not getting a tip, my dude.
it's how it works.
we're not paying you for an "experience".
we're not playing "waiting room simulator" like a thread on /b/.
we want our fucking food so we can eat, drink a few beers and then leave.

>>13693068
Oooo no tip you poor baby.

>>13693059
you're supposed to take the bill to the cash register at the entrance on your way out.

>>13693439
>I've never been to a nice restaurant

If the food was shit, why even pay, just walk out, what are they gonna do?

>>13693414
>for bar food

>>13693412
no they dont

Why do we tip servers when the only thing they do is bring us the food? We should be tipping the chefs.

>>13693428
Okay, but that has almost nothing to do with the person that brings your food to you. If it's that big of an issue to you, you better be bitching to management. If you say nothing but just don't tip you're a dick.

>>13693012
oh god, imagine paying for food, and then paying taxes, and then tipping
thank god I live in an actual first world country

>>13693622
Why should we tip the chefs, they're not the one supplying the ingredient with whomst the meals are prepared.

>>13693707
The ingredients wouldn't taste good without the chefs, but the server doesn't add anything to the mix.

>>13693746
There would be no food to prepare without the ingredients

>>13693401
Indirect kissu

The better question is in which circumstance should i actually be tipping?

>>13693842
Make a new thread with that topic.

>>13693377
the problem here isn’t that they expect to be served family style, it’s that they ask for plates and the waiter doesn’t accommodate the request in a timely fashion

if you asked for more water or the check and the waiter takes 10+ minutes to get it for you, it’s the same problem

I once ate at The Cheesecake Factory and the food took almost 2 hours to arrive. Only reason I didn't leave was because I was with a big party and some of the food arrived and some didn't.
Anyway, we decided not to tip because the experience was super shitty, but the waitress literally ran after us when we left the restaurant to ask for her tip. WTF
I tip 10% all the time in my country because they divide it up between all the workers (including kitchen staff and etc) so it seems fair to me, but the tipping culture in the US is out of control.

>>13693412
>>13693596
I don't think anyone gets paid that low anymore, but it was pretty low, maybe about that pay rate, in a few flyover states just a decade ago. But I believe that the employers still had to pay them the minimum wage if tips didn't make it for them. The tip system doesn't bother me as I figure the cost would just end up in the food price rather than the tip, and I don't have to go to a restaurant with servers or a restaurant at all if I'm not willing to spend what I know if will end up costing me.

Tipping aside, most restaurants are complete shit even in areas with a good food scene. There are a sprinkling of ones that are worth going at all, and the rest are insultingly terrible garbage. There's practically no point in going out to eat to places that serve food you can make at home with ingredients you are able to easily purchase at the consumer level except for some social occasions and breaking up the usual at home routine from time to time.

>>13693012
imagine being a tipcuck.

>>13693642
And the people cooking your food don't get tipped either. As to whether why the front gets tipped out and not the back is beyond me. When everything comes out as ordered in a timely fashion, the only people keeping that is the fake smile that brings the food over.

>>13693879
>if you asked for more water or the check and the waiter takes 10+ minutes to get it for you, it’s the same problem
Fair point. That kind of thing hasn't been an issue for me in densely populated areas with competitive service industries, but anywhere else the servers are borderline retarded and often lazy and stand around like some anons have complained. I wouldn't expect a request so "complicated" to get done efficiently on the first try in the small town I moved to, honestly. The one thing they are really good about is constantly refilling your beverage, but it's like the only thing they are on top of.

>>13693062
>her
Bigot

>>13693012
I tip based on service.

>>13693012
>live in Californistan
>always wonder what this whining about living wage is about
>horrified to learn most states have minimum wage exemptions for servers and bartenders
Seriously, I hate income griping in general, but there's no justification to have an exception like that.

>>13694015
Yes I am big, how could you tell?

>>13693012
>tipping 70 years ago
Leave the change if you thought the server was polite and nice

>tipping 20 years ago
Leave 10% as an expectation, but not mandatory if the service wasn't good

>tipping now
Leave 20% or you are a royal piece of shit, you are eating here therefore you must supplement my wage, that money is mine not yours there is never a situation when you don't tip

>also today, tip jar at service counter
omg, you don't tip?

>>13693012
I'd be a little upset too if i waited 4 hours for food.

>>13693842
former bartender/“server” wageslave here; here are my personal rules:
1) nice restaurant with professional waitstaff, the kind that know your needs before you ask, know the ingredients and preparation of dishes front/back, refill/prebus/drop check without asking: 20% on food, 10% drinks
2) basic sit down restaurant with teens/students/ne’er do wells who are “order takers” not waiters: 15% flat
3) counterservice of any sort: 0%
4) bar: $1/drink, unless im a dick and order some hard to make shit
5) to-go counter: 0% with principal the same as counter service
6) delivery: 10% or $5 minimum

test

i live in a very very rich and famous country where tipping is mandatory. (also most countries are jealous of my country lol). but I never worry about tipping because i order my food take away so only give a couple bucks. if you order 'to go' then tipping rules are out the window.

>2020
>still being a tipcuck

>>13694029
lol what. California has the biggest problem with living wage because cost of living is so high. Its super fucking easy to afford a normal lifestyle on tips alone and no base wage if you live in like Kansas

also the exception only applies if tips bring the rate above minimum wage, if they do not the business still has to cover the difference so its really not a big deal at all

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>>13694159
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