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>>13617132
Mmmmmm baddass thread

whiskey is pretty good

Let me do you all a favor and just put an end to this thread now.

>Canadian
Literal shit; anything decent is just imported mgp from us
>Irish
Bland
>scotch
Good
>bourbon
willett + anything made by buffalo trade distillery are the only good bourbons
>rye
most are fine but rittenhouse is the best. Anything else isn’t worth buying really
>Japanese
meme. not good. people just like jap shit for no reason

I haven’t tried any of the oat or heavily wheated whiskeys so I can’t comment on those.

>>13617264
>mgp
??

>>13617132
For me, it's Tennessee fire

>>13617305
>Midwestern grain products
Huge industrial distillery that makes enormous quantities and sells to various companies that age it and sell it under their own brand name

what's the point of this thread
it's always the same shit, the same brands, the same shitposting

anyways the other day I bought a chivas 12 because I didn't want to spend much and the supermarket didn't offer much choice, conclusion: it's one of the worst whiskies I've tried, even a €10 grant's tastes better

I'm drinking more gin these days

>>13617132
if your sticking with islay, Bruichladdich Port Charlotte's are great, octomore if you're a crazy peat lord, and black art 4.1 if you can find it (last of the Jim McEwan era)

>>13617760
>anyways I bought a chivas
DROPPED

>>13617132
I typically only buy scotch in the winter, and for the past several years ive tried various brands but always end the season repeatedly going back to Glenmorangie.
The smoothness, taste, and price point cant be beat.

thats alot of food coloring in one picture

>>13617810
I think only the Talisker is coloured.

japanese drinking culture revolves around highballs. whisky and soda. great for staying hydrated and getting drunk at the same time

>>13617855
i know for sure the lagavulin is as well

>>13617862
>for sure
It's pale and in a coloured bottle.

>Why do the japanese fetishize whisky?
I am Japanese. But I don't know the answer.
I cannot understand the question objectively because I only understand the Japanese way of thinking.
Japanese whiskey is still young. So the challenge is very fun.
However, many manufacturers other than Nikka fear individuality.
Whiskey without personality is boring.
So I love Nikka. So I respect British whiskey. I respect American bourbon.
I drank CAOL ILA today.

>>13617871
huh? it's a fact lol. I'm not guessing. I don't care what color the bottle is.

as I am a man of culture I like to sip fireball

>>13617760
>what's the point of this thread
OP here

>>13617132
>Why can't I stop thinking about whiskey?
is why. I 'got' whisky for the first time last month, until then I wrote it off as people pretending to enjoy burn-y shit to seem badass or spending too much on it to seem badass (but it's less burn-y). Now I can taste all the flavors and am basically obsessed with learning everything I can.

also I have almost no friends so when people reply in here I feel less alone.

>>13617878
that's the 12 cask strength. pretty sure it's the only laga that isn't colored.

>>13617264
He doesn't know about Dillon's Distillery. Good gin too.

>>13617264
Suq the farts out of my arse

>>13617132
because canadian whiskey is r*ye and it's nasty
good mixed with other grains or in cocktails, but straight rye is gross

>>13619047
>he doesn't like rye

>>13617132
Don Draper sipped Canadian Club. I know he’s not real, but neither is our stupid country, so...

>>13619083
Crazy how rich people always feel brand allegiance for cheap bullshit

>>13617132
>Why can't I stop thinking about whiskey?

cause its the best spirit you can get

>>13617132
>lagavulin

ok...once and for all..

...bowmore 15 yo IS SUPERIOR...

>>13619279
Well in all fairness Canadian Club garnered a huge following in the states during prohibition. They smuggled a lot of that shit in.

What are appropriate occasions to open a $100 bottle of scotch? How much is the right amount to drink?

Never had Lagavulin 12, for no particular reason, it just didn't happen. What's to expect from it?

>>13619405
Bowmore=caramel coloring and burnt sugar flavor from it

>>13619424
right now. whole bottle.

>>13619424
Depends on what $100 means to you?

My most expensive bottle was £130 ($170). Its not opened yet. Its expensive enough for me to not be able to drink it on a regular basis, but at the same time its not something that I'd never open - id be happy to share it with friends.

Just open it when you feel the occasion deserves it, share it with people who will appreciate it and only have one or two.

>>13619425
lemon, apparently

>>13617132
>Why do the japanese fetishize whisky?
They don't. But westaboos certainly obsess over it when its mostly just re-packaged scotch blends.
>Why aren't there any Canadian whiskeys worth sipping on?
Because the only worthwhile ones dont make it out of Canada, and also because there's very few good available ones (Lot 40 CS, Wiser's 23 CS, Shelter Point CS and various single batch single malts, Alberta Premium CS, that's basically it.)
>Why can't I stop thinking about whiskey?
Because once you go actual richfag (JW Blue is poseur richfag) scotch you don't go back.
>>13617264
>Literal shit; anything decent is just imported mgp from us
>Canadian whisky
>made in US
Uhhhh, are you mistaking MGP for Alberta Distillers?

>>13618487
Dillon's gin is good but their ryes are terrible for the price.
The cask strength gin that came out in 20cl bottles was some of the worst Canadian whisky I've ever had. Tasted like pine sap. No wonder it got put on province wide clearence.

>>13619405
>not Bowmore Tempest
Oh wait I forgot, its discontinued.
;_;

brehs...

>>13619559
>actual richfag
where is the line on this? Are OP's bottles 'actual richfag'? I feel like an $70 bottle of springbank 12 isn't out of reach if you drink it over the course of months.

>>13619590
please for the love of god do not buy this shit, if you're gonne drop money on good cognac, get Hardy or Navarre
It's Hennesey for retards with too much money

Don't tell anyone, but Kavalan is better than Nikka and Suntory

>>13619682
>700 mL
>Shystering me out of an extra shot's worth of whiskey.

>>13619708
a lot of whiskeys sold outside of the states are sold as 700ml
any you find in the states are guaranteed 750ml

if you put ice in 80 proof whiskey, you arent drinking whiskey

I hope you dont drink with people like a normalfag, anons

>>13619846
I drink scotch alone and with friends/family. I don't drink anything other than good scotch if I'm alone though.

All this hate on Canadian whiskey. Why can’t you just relax and get drunk with some swill that doesn’t taste like disgusting smoke and come with a pretentious backstory?
>pic rated my favorite bottom shelf Canadian

>>13619874
because bourbon does that better and even comes with a pretentious backstory

>>13617872
nice label. given that it's good stuff inside too, would buy

It was a bit difficult to drink at first, but after getting used to it I enjoyed this peated Glen Moray a lot.

I used to live near a pub that claimed to have the largest selection of single malt scotches outside Europe. They had one called Peat Monster and it was one of the best drinking experiences I’ve ever had at a bar. The ambiance and outside weather probably factored into it too.

>>13620199
>outside weather
heavy fog but not rain? peat monster is compass box, no?

>>13619424
In AUD where $100 is expensive, but not that expensive I would treat it as a starter drink. Have one, maybe two if you're flush, and then immediately switch to something cheaper.
If it's a bit more expensive than that I would skip it most times, saving it for occasions where my sense of taste is in perfect condition (no cold in sight, no allergies, etc) or for when I've had a particularly bad day and need some cheering up.
I'm pretty sure the latter is a fairly contrary opinion though. But there's no way I'd condone happiness stacking (ie celebratory drinking) as opposed to rounding out the bad days (smelling the roses, as it were).
If you reach the point where the price is so painful that it prevents you from drinking then you've gone too far beyond your means. Price is part of the whiskey and if it's too expensive then it's a bad whiskey.

>>13619682
I've tasted maybe 12 Kavalans. They're good. I expect great things in the future. But nothing is old enough. Not a single one.
Unfortunately I think they're gaining popularity now, akin to Japanese whiskey before the price hikes. If the price gets high too early then there is no incentive to age them.
So chill in the Kavalan hype.

>>13619708
700ml is the world standard.
And I expect 700ml bottles from everywhere else too, because the duty free limit is 2.1L, which means buying 750ml bottles would con me out of a whole bottle.

>>13620313
It was a massive snowstorm in the middle of downtown Denver. The whole city was asleep it felt like and I had the entire pub to myself. I chuffed two blocks through pristine powder and city lights. Memorable night.

>>13619731
Only true of scotch, and of Bourbon if you are standing in the USA.

>>13620174
How so?
I'm always on the lookout for a cheaper peated option.
Thus far peated blends have been the way to go over cheap peated single malt.

Thoughts?

>>13620377
700ml bottles of liquor aren't allowed to be sold domestically in the US. 27 CFR 5.47a

and duty-free limit is 1L here

>>13620400
Prefer this

>>13620377
>But nothing is old enough. Not a single one.
They were founded in 2005, so can't really blame em, and I mostly agree as far as youth. The flip side of that is much like rum, there's a much higher rate of evaporation, so aging takes less time. I hope they start getting an age statement baseline out one of these years.

>>13617132
looking for a cheaper alternative to knob creek single barrel reserve (or elijah craig barrel proof). I love both of these bourbons but a bit too expensive for a daily drinker. I'm thinking wild turkey 101 is probably it but does anyone have any recommendations?

Made whiskey sours again but this time with rye and in a large batch but it had no froth on top
Is it the rye or that i made a large batch why it has no froth?

>>13620494
All barrel proof whiskeys are going to run you ~40 dollars, you can eke out better pricing on BiB/~50% whiskeys instead

George Dickel BiB is best bang for buck at ~30, but it's also impossible to find now since it won whiskey of the year

>>13620514
i'll keep an eye out for it, thanks. I'm a big fan of wild turkey 101 but am just looking for a change of pace every now and then

>>13620528
EW single barrel is also stupidly good for the price if you're looking for good flavor, and if you don't mind the alc being around 43 or 44.

>>13620534
i remember buying a bottle of that a couple years ago but i was in a huge barrel proof kick so i think i just thought i was weak and uninteresting in comparison. i'll have to give it another go, for like $20 you can't really go wrong

Can anyone name some well known independently owned bourbon distilleries?

>>13617264
Much oversimplified, you haven't tried enough. Sipping or peerless right now, pretty good.
>>13619424
Wednesday is a good reason. I don't know in all seriousness. I opened a very special bottle when I left my old job, was worth the wait.
>>13619642
Rarity for show, but I think they drink what they like. I seek out unusual bottles, and have a collection I'm proud of. I'm more proud of a $10 bottle than I am of my non antique eagle rare.
>>13620429
I'll find that someday.
>>13620494
Don't drink daily
>>13620534
I'll second this. Or bib's. Cheapish high rye seems to be your interest. Fucking goddammit, I hate to attract more interest to it, but ogd is your daily driver, it sounds like. Bib or 114 if you want to spend a bit more.

>>13620639
not sure what counts as "independent" but Heaven Hill and Sazerac are family owned.

>>13620639
No. Independent distilleries are hard to find, but may be well known. High west is distilling their own juice, but I think they're still sourcing some of their blends. Peerless is picking up steam, new riff is getting out there. Koval is out and about, Strahan's is relatively easy to find, same with Breckenridge. Balcones is getting some traction. Few might be out and about. I'm close to Colorado, and go to a lot of liquor stores. I also follow a lot of whiskey news.

>>13619657
Seething poorfag cope right there nigga

>>13620668
Sazerrac is under buffalo now. I believe Weller and Blanton's are too. Big companies aren't bad. I love buffalo's portfolio, and heaven hill as well. They are of a family, and as such, share similarities. And with the exception of the fetishism around some releases (I'm looking at the cunt that bought 36 bottles of Blanton's at once (fuck these fucks)) they're relatively common.

>>13620400
Loved it from the first sip

Coming from bourbon, what are some sweeter not so smokey scotches

>>13620825
Glenfiddich 12 or 15, Aberfeldy 12 are what I've tried and enjoyed.

>>13617132
>Why do the japanese fetishize whisky?
Pic.

so lads I haven't had hard booze in over two weeks. I'm getting a little bit of a craving for SoCo 100 proof. What else do I get, to mix it with?

>>13617264
jim beam rye is pretty good shutup

>>13617132
Most Canadian is trash, but I like Forty Creek and JP Wisers at the cheaper end and Lot 40 is hands down my favourite rye. I work in a liquor store in Ontario and there's a lot of Canadians from smaller distilleries that seem promising but I haven't got too hands on with them.

>>13620676
nah dog, I've tried it, it's not worth the 160 dollars I paid for a single

tastes like perfumed wood with an inkling of sweet spice, which is pretty pathetic for something that claims to be a blend of things up to 100 years old

>>13620825
Glen Grant 12/18

>>13620400
prefer quarter cask

So far for bourbons I've had:
> Buffalo Trace
> Buleit
> Elijah Craig SB
> Larceny
> Jim Beam
> Four Roses
I'm pretty sure Four Roses is the cheapest of the bunch but it's my favorite by far, going to try the small batch and single barrel next. It might even become my daily sipper.

>>13620906
Was it from an old bottle that has been sitting on shelf forever? I had the hennessey paradis and it was truly God's gift to men. I can only assume you had an old drink that lost all the aroma and flavor from sitting on the shelf for too long.

>>13620945
redpill me on Larceny, I always see it at liquor stores but I never give it a second thought

>>13620981
Didn't try too much, but I had it back to back with Elijah Craig so that's what I will compare it to. I found Larceny to be harsher even though it had a lower ABV, and I found the flavors less pronounced, I didn't notice much complexity, where the Elijah Craig was incredibly flavorful and sippable. That being said I'm no whisky expert so dont let me dissuade you from trying it of you are interested. Just wasn't my cup of tea.

Is there any blended scotch that's worth it? I'm working less hours now so I cant afford to buy single malts as much as I'd like.

>>13621051
Back when I had a lot of spending money I loved the single malts. I dislike most blends but J&B is delicious.

I'm finally doing it boys. I'm taking the Taliskerpill this weekend. Just picked up the 10 and I'm mentally preparing myself. What should I expect?

>>13621051
JW Double Black is the only blend that is actually decent imo. Even then, it's still nowhere near the quality of a single malt.

>>13620400
Best whiskey you can buy at that price point. Laphroaig 10 is the ultimate pleb filter. If you don't like smoke, you don't like scotch. End of discussion. Drink pussy bourbon if you want "sherry finish" and bullshit like that.

>>13620384
It's not that expensive, you should give it a go. What are your favorite peated blends? Do a side by side comparison if you can.

>>13620955
Oxidation only occurs in young whiskey. Old whiskey has been completely oxidised in the barrel. It won't degrade from you leaving the bottle open with only a thimble left even after many years.

>>13621051
I kinda want to try shots of those compass box releases but they seem kind of douchebaggy desu. Apparently they taste nice.

prefer blended malts. johnnie walker green is pretty nice. thank you for reading my blog

>>13621306
The bottle costs $50; $40 being the cheapest a 40% whiskey can be. So it's very cheap.
But there is an opportunity cost, even within the Glen Moray distillery; the 12 year old is $55, and the 15 is $70.
And I've tried and confirmed every variation of Glen Moray unaged, except this one, is bad.

The Six Isles is my favourite peated blend thus far. It goes for $60, and you'd have to jump up to $80 for Ardbeg to do better.

What are some MUST TASTE whiskys?

>>13621384
Ardbeg Uigeadail. It will basically spoil all other whiskey for you.

>>13620825
good place to start: glenmorangie original, dahlwinnie, balvenie 12 or caribbean cask. glenfiddich is serviceable. You might like macallan, but I think it's cloying and gross. Maybe try abelour abundah (I haven't had it, but it's unpeated and heavily sherry-finished, so i'm guessing it's sweet)

Honestly though, just buy a bottle of >>13620400
and don't drink anything else until you finish the bottle. froggie 10 will teach you to really sit and meditate on a drink and is the tsundere girlfriend of whisky.
>>13621273
is basically right on the money. If you're going to get into scotch, you need to embrace peat and smoke or you're going to be carefully dancing around all the time and buying bottles you don't like. For the money that it'll cost, you would be better off sticking to bourbon.

>>13621255
it's pretty smokey, but once you get past that it's got a nice salty landing in the opening taste.

>>13621408
stop telling people asshat. god knows we don't need it to price-jump.


but you're absolutely right.

>>13621408
>>13621448
i actually prefer Corryvreckan

>>13621384
this one :)

>>13621051
nikka from the barrel is a beautiful blend

but its different from other blended scotchs

>>13621384
I think the market is big enough that there aren't that many unique products. There are styles and you should try something from each particular style. And the best pick for each style depends on personal preference and ever changing market conditions.

Try a Speyside. Glenfiddich was biggest, it might be Glenlivet now.
Try an Islay. Ardbeg, Laphroaig or Lagavulin are most popular.
Try a sherry bomb. Glenrothes or Abunadh.
Try a peat sherry mix. Talisker distillers edition or Highland Park.
Compare everything against their cask strength versions.
Try some non-islay peated whiskey. Dalwinnie 15 or Loch Lomond Inchmoan.
Try something old like an 18 year old version of those Speysides.

>>13620174
Glen Moray is light and pretty almost to the point of being bland, does the peat not overpower any taste it does have?

>>13621051
Johnny Walker Green and Double Black.

>>13619874
>Why can’t you just relax and get drunk with some swill
Relaxing means enjoying something that actually tastes good.

>>13621357
>50$
what the fug, is alcohol tax that high in america?
I paid like 20 yuros for it

>>13621051
best $14.99 I ever spent

>>13619642
Actual richfags buy good shit and replace it quickly regardless of price, but it's a wide range of stuff of varying prices with cask strength Ledaigs being on the low end and old Port Ellen's being on the upper side.

>>13620400
Nice stuff, but it's 40% abv in the uk :( so = Ardbeg 10 @ £37 > Laphroaig 10 @ £38.
Bunnahabhain Stiuireadair is the best bang for your buck currently if you want a decent legit Islay single malt for under £30. It's not peated, but it is ncf/nc/46.3%. For a NAS malt it's pretty good imho.

just saw this while browsing for other stuff. ever had any? how are whisky-themed treats in general?

>>13619425
I've heard it's even smokier/peatier than 16. 16 is the limit for me, and given that 12 is $20-$40 more for a bottle, never bothered with buying it.

>>13619891
I wouldn't call kowtowing to subsidy bux corn farmers pretentious.

>>13622801
I had some marmalade on Islay that was made from Laphroaig that was pretty good, but can be kinda shitty to people who don't like the taste of scotch.

When you make a whiskey sour, do you use the full egg, or just the whites?

>>13619424
open it on a good occasion and with friends or family, don't need to wait for years, something like christmas or family gathering is fine enough
and once it is opened don't think about the price anymore and drink as much as you want, just don't waste it by mixing or what
you don't want to be that guy who puts the bottle away after first glass because it was expensive

>>13619279
People like what they like. Hell, the president has all the money and power in the world and his favorite meal is mcdonalds and coke.

>>13619424
there is no point in staring at the bottle

ENJOY

>>13617132
I get severe asthma from whisk(gay)ey

>>13623320
>you don't want to be that guy who puts the bottle away after first glass because it was expensive

unfortunately my family has a few who will gladly pour themselves half a $100 bottle AFTER they've already had 4 or 5 bud lights or captain & cokes and killed any ability to appreciate the stuff for what it is.

>>13619424
>What are appropriate occasions to open a $100 bottle of scotch?
This new holiday called Friday night?

>>13623530
>half a $100 bottle AFTER they've already had 4 or 5 bud lights or captain & cokes

i cannot believe this savagery

>>13617132
my esophagus bled because of whiskey, fuck whiskey and fuck you

>>13619424

I just got a job and moved to a new city. Will be comfortably making six figures and life is finally starting to get good. I celebrated by buying a bottle of Dalmore King Alexander III.
While it is amazing, it is absolutely not worth $300 and I'll probably just buy a bottle of Laphroaig next time.

Best bang for buck I've found so far

>>13623628
>dewars white label
YUCK

In awe at the size of this lad.

>>13619424
I celebrated my promotion to Sergeant with a bottle of Glenfiddich 18.

>how much is the right amount
it's a celebration, as much as you want. unless you're with company, then just enough to not be slurring your words.

>>13623640
How does the 18 compare to the 12? Glenfiddich 12 is probably the only scotch that actually repulsed me. The sour apple juice taste is disgusting. If I had that as my first scotch I probably would never have bought another one.
I hear good things about the 15 though, and that the difference is like night and day.

>>13617132
Just bought a bottle of Red Rose thanks to this thread.

>>13623648
18 was, to my memory, fucking delicious. honey and raisins with a hint of apricot. 12 is okay, in my mind it's a generic scotch like a Chevy Cobalt is a generic car. not bad, just non-descript. I'd be just as happy with blended J&B as Glenfiddich 12. 18 is magic though.

>>13623648
and 15 was alright. not worth the price as i recall. don't remember much about it. i remember actively disliking some matured-in-oak-barrels expression, had some Spanish kind of name. that one might've been Glenlivet. solano? xerej? i forget. and the cask strength stuff is always a meme.

>>13617264
>redditlo trace

>>13619073
>laughing vampire twins
damnit anon you're making me install bloodlines again

>>13623639
>>13623628
>>13623480
>>13622699
>>13621506
>>13620429
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>>13620174
stand the fuck back you literal fucking hobos

lads I'm about to head to the liquor store. what do I buy? max $40-$50

>>13617132
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>>13623693
Four Roses Single Barrel if you want bourbon.
Laphroaig 10 for scotch. Alternate choice is Highland Park 12 if you want something less smoky and more balanced.
Those are the best in that price range.

>>13623693
wild turkey 101

>>13623711
sorry i meant that price for handles (1.75L).

$40-$50 for 750ml is ridiculous.

>>13623715
Nigga you don't buy a handle of whiskey. You don't do shots like a god damn philistine. You sip it and savor it. If you're just looking to get fucked up, buy gin or something.

>>13623730
>implying I don't buy handles of J&B for $35
>implying I don't shoot that shit and chase it with grape soda until i puke at 2am

>>13623693

>>13623743
oh shit son

it might have to be. haven't had devils cut in nigh on 8 years, since i was in the army. chasing it with budweisers. threw up in my buddy's backyard. felt bad. i'm also leaning to their beam rye. that was pretty good last time, a little too good. gave me a throbbing hangover.

>>13623637
It's the 12 year you dope

>>13623542
Indeed. my father got a nice bottle of rum as a gift this christmas and my uncle damn near drained it before I took it away. Said "ooh I like this." What a waste.

>>13623691
why is the box different than the bottle?

and also macallan 12 is GROSS

I just stick to four rose Bourbon, not to expensive but still nice to sip on

>>13617132
Alcohol is degenerate and kills my gains so I eat 8mg of xanax a day instead.

>>13622596
Australia. Tax is 13 Euros. Assuming your tax is 3 Euros then the base price is the same.

>>13623648
15 is just straight up not the same.
In my experience I have found that different age statements of the same whiskey to be completely different. The only exception to this I have found is Glengoyne, which all taste near identical.

>>13623315
like what our immigration policy should be: just the whites

>>13621504
based and tropical fruit pilled

>>13623743
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>>13623711
well lads here's what I got

>>13623542
>Oh and I want it with coke
>Give me a shot of that
>Lots of ice to go down smoother

Jim Bean or Jack Daniel's?

For relaxing times, make it Beam-Suntory time.

>>13619083
i'd rather take this one than a regular jim beam or jack daniels. at least you can drink it neat.

>>13624135
evan williams just saved your ass from a report.

I miss al/ck/

>>13623959
>alcohol is degenerate
>uses xanax
what is cognitive dissonance

>>13619682
They're also more expensive though which is saying a lot.

>>13624135
we gave you good recommendations and you ignored it, wtf

>120 proof rye please, neat

>>13624940
>99.7% hand sanitizer please, denatured

>>13624843
the solhist series are priced about evenly to nikka/suntory's higher age statement, but concertmaster and the like are pretty competitive around 40-70 dollars and are easy to find

>>13624940
they have this?

>>13625056
yeah dog knob creek has a 115 proof and a 127 proof rye
they're pretty good, though obviously spicy as fuck

>>13623456
People like dumb shit

>>13617264
>my negro-level subjective opinions on "brown licka" are the be-all end-all
Shut the fuck up faggot.
Anyone tried Ichiro's Malt and Grain Whisky? Neighborhood liquor store started carrying it the other week.

>>13623730
>Gin
>the one spirit that you savor just as long
We get it, you don't like gin. True alkymode is just salting your normal drinks with vodka throughout the day.

>>13623538
Stop flexing like a nigger, the average person's Friday night whisky will be in the fifty buck range, if even that.

>>13621273
>it's another "islay hardman insists that sweet whiskies aren't whisky" episode

>>13625096
need to try that, I got their 120 proof bourbon for xmas and its great

anyone try widow jane? friend suggested it

>>13625249
The rye or the bourbon?

>>13625262
your pick, don't remember if he specified

>>13625265
The 10-year bourbon is choice, and almost definitely the one he was talking about. A lot of fruit, almost buttery, with a spicy finish kinda like the smell of burnt teak.

>>13625284
that does sound really nice, I'll check it out, thanks

>>13625219
I'm not him, but the other guy that recommended his post. I wouldn't say islay and smoke are the only whiskys, but notes of smoke and peat are so common in other whiskys that if you don't enjoy them, you're walking through a fucking minefield.

You get a bottle of laphroaig and don't drink anything else till you finish it. If you do this, you'll learn to appreciate peat and smoke, and then when there's hints of them in whisky that otherwise have the flavors you're looking for, your reaction won't be "damn this would be good if it weren't for that 5% of smoke they poisoned it with" it'll be "this is perfect."

how old were you when you were drafted into the bourbon vs scotch civil war?

>>13625547
23 and had just bought a bottle of Johnnie walker double black, bourbon would never be such a scam

>tfw you keep drinking thinking it isnt working then end up absolutely fucked an hour latrer

>>13625547
25, tried some Glen Grant 18 at a friend's and knew I could never go back to woodford reserve

Youtube whiskey reviewers talking huge gulps and swishing all that alcohol in their mouth. How do they stand all that alcohol taste in their mouth and still pick up good flavors?

>>13625651
you adapt to the alcohol overtime and notice it less

>>13617132
Fuck any colored liquor.

>>13625651
drinking a lot and learning the differences

>>13617872
Last year stayed at Conrad hotel in Tokyo, we had a free food drink happy hour as part of our package. Being the dirtball alcoholic I am I grabbed a orange juice glass and filled it to the top with suntory (I think) whisky and walked back to hotel room.

>>13624731
thanks anon. i ben drinkin EW for years.

>>13624937
sorry i hurt your feelins anon but i dont have spending money for fancy barrel rent flavors

>>13624937
This

>>13624135
You asked us for good whiskey to get, and I give you the best whiskey to get in the price range you said, and you come back with the most freshman in college tier selection of whiskey I've ever seen.
What is the point of asking peoples' opinion if you're just going to ignore it anyway?

You are forever to doomed to be a cultureless plebeian with no taste. I'm sorry anon.

>>13623456
You are a fool if you think Trump likes that shit. He just buys it to play up his "common man" image so he gets more votes from flyover country.
>How do you do, fellow middle class?
In actuality, dude eats at 5 star restaurants every night.

>>13626284
Several sources close to him say he is white trash in a billionaires body.. I worked for high end lobster restaurant for a bit. Figured out I would take craft mac and cheese w hotdogs over a 200 dollar lobster 9/10. In Korea millionaires eat instant ramen several times a day... If I were a billionaire and they brought me artistic meme food I would get in my limo and drive my self to del taco.

>>13626284
I think he might be autistic enough to eat that shit for real

>>13626276
anon... i am literally a freshman in college

>>13624135
Why the shit did you get those two garbage bottles? Fucking coulda got a bottle of tequila or vodka or something.

>>13620400
I've had the Select, Quarter Cask, and the 10. The 10 comes out on top is priced nicely at most retailers around me.

>>13627260
i like EW, it's my regular. and i had been craving some soco the past week. the schnappes is terrible, would rather get a different brand or creme de menth.

>he dilutes and/or chills his whisky

>>13627828
>he has binders full of lolis

>>13627833
What kind of whisky does Pierre Delecto drink?

>>13620513
Are you just using simple syrup and lemon juice? Because why the fuck would there be froth unless your making them with a kitchenaid.

>>13620945
Well just start drinking 101 like the rest of us.

>>13627759
I never said anything about ew. Southern comfort is what women drink with Diet Coke. Schnapps is a recipe for a hangover. Too much sugar, and mint is the worst one.

>>13627984
nah i tried multiple times with different amounts of egg white and with my bourbon too
there is just something fucked up about this rye.
Same ingredients and shake. only difference being rye vs bourbon and the bourbon sour had 4 times as much foam.

>>13628003
Who the FUCK told you to use eggs with a Whiskey sour boy

>>13628027
you are supposed to. that's where the foam comes from
>he doesnt use egg white
because you followed the pussy recipe that omitted it because they dont want to be liable for people getting salmonella

Is two 750ml bottles a month too much?

>>13628305
if you drink them in 2 days yeah
its important to spread it out

>>13623691
You must be 18 to post on this site.

what is the whiskey version of this

>>13628355
Blanton's, unironically.

>>13628355
Maker's Mark, mid-shelf whiskey at best pretending it's hot shit because of a gimmicky bottle.

>>13628429
Maker's is nowhere near as gimmicky as most bottles out there. Shit that comes to mind would be Bulleit and Tincup. Basil Hayden's is also up there.

>>13628466
All their advertising makes such a big deal out of the wax seal, it's definitely more gimmicky than Basil Haydens or Bulleit which just have mildly unusual bottles/labels. The only bottle more gimmicky than that is Blanton's, but Blanton's is actually pretty good and worth the price if you can find it for sticker, it's not cheap swill acting pretentious about itself.

>>13628466
It wouldn’t be gimmicky if it was good.

What are some great whiskey food pairings?

What can I try that might be new and interesting or different?

I have some nice islay whisky and sherried whisky. I feel like unless I start spending significantly more money, I wont be able to find much else in those areas and price range that are much better or more interesting than what I already have.

Drinking Talisker 10 for the first time tonight. Gotta say I'm not too impressed. It's basically just Highland Park 12, except $20 more expensive. What am I missing here?

>>13629192
>What am I missing here?
Nothing. It's a bad whisky.

>>13629199
Do you get an alert every time someone mentions Talisker in these threads?

>>13629216
Do you get an alert every time Diageo has $.01 available for you in exchange for a /ck/ post?

>>13629228
Why would Diageo pay me to say Talisker is underwhelming and overpriced?

>>13629228
>this genuinely paranoid-schizophrenic nigger again who shits up every whisky thread and calls everyone who's ever enjoyed drinking Talisker a paid shill

>>13623906
>macallan 12 is GROSS
I’ve been trying to get into scotch and I absolutely loved the Oban 14 I had so I figured I’d try macallan 12 since it’s such a brand name and yeah I kind of hated it. I only finished it because I’d payed for it, and even then I considered dumping it and getting some cheap Evan. Good to know it’s not just my noob palate, what’s a scotch I’d like if I like Oban?

New memes lads, what am I in for.

>>13628355
reminds me of this gem I found a few weeks ago

>>13629876
not a fan of Blanton's. never heard of eagle rare but it's a KSBW so it can't be that bad.

t. the retard who bought the soco and evan williams

>>13629876
I sure hope you didn't pay out the ass for those, otherwise you'll be disappointed.

>>13629886
paid retail for both, definitely felt like a faggot because meme bourbons but they were both just sitting there at the front

>>13627884
something with a secret recipe

>>13629886
Good shit then, I've given up trying to get my hands on Blanton's. I've realized even if I did get it I'd be too hesitant to drink it because of how rare it is, in which case I'd be no better than the faggots collecting it for display like an ornament because it's trendy and neat looking.

>>13629889
Good shit then, I've given up trying to get my hands on Blanton's. I've realized even if I did get it I'd be too hesitant to drink it because of how rare it is, in which case I'd be no better than the faggots collecting it for display like an ornament because it's trendy and neat looking.

Drank pic related for the second time today and found it quite enjoyable. Got a lot out of it, delicate but not bland, tasted like christmas in a cup, honey toasted caramel, perfect winter whisky. Looks up Ralfys review, he tears it to shreds. Am I a pleb /ck/ or is Ralfy just wrong?

>>13617132
Looking at your collection it seems you're a fan of islay. Best islay I've had that's widely available (and there's a lot there trust me) is Laphroaig Lore. It's a must have brother

>>13624135
I think the last time I had SoCo was at a formal when I was a freshman and 14 drinks deep and even then I wasn’t impressed. Make of that what you will.

>>13629880
"my wife let me" posts will always make me cringe to ungodly levels no matter how many times I see them

please no bully

>>13630075
SoCo is literally just alcohol, sugar and artificial flavours. It's as close to whisky as a duck is a pig.

>>13630078
Patrician taste anon, these are my bottles on the go. The Wiser's Rye is not as good as I had hoped.

>>13628466
I avoid Buleit specifically because of it's LARPer old timey train ticket bottle. I'll pick it up occasionally, because it's the only bourbon I can get in a mickey of nearby if I just need a small bottle. That being said, it's decent stuff, I just feel like a kid playing cowboys and indians when I do get it.

>>13629192
Interesting, here Highland Park is more expensive.
Talisker is lightly smokey, briny and spicy.
Highland Park is a blend of fruity and smoky, but lacks intensity.

If you're not into the saltiness there's not really a lot for you. Islay is smokier and rye is spicier.

>>13629515
>it’s such a brand name
Scotch is a perceived value industry. Brand names are always more expensive, you'd do better avoiding them.

>>13630039
I can't say I've ever agreed with Ralfy's opinions.
Horst is pretty based though. I've been rewarded by following his advice a number of times.

>>13630181
Horst is my man, but Ralfy is comfy, any other whisky tubers I should check out?

>>13630187
Aqvavitae does a series called Recycled Reviews:
"You only get to know a whiskey when you've spent some time with it. The first couple of drams are different than the last couple of drams... and sometimes your opinion can change dramatically over the course of the bottle."
I do agree. Also it's easy to shill a bottle, but it's a lot harder to shill a bottle if you have to drink the whole thing.
That said, our tastes don't match and the prick is actually living in the holy land so I can't get ahold of a lot of his recommendations.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpaNKzLq7SFt9f0fkI2L5DJPLfCzWk-r4

The Whiskey Vault has some excellent videos with excellent production value. However it's max shilling and I've been punished several times by following their recommendations. Otherwise it's the most entertaining content out there. No link because shit whiskey recs.

>>13629876
Blanton's is awesome. That's great that you found it!

Eagle rare is a weird one. I have not enjoyed it when I have tried it. It has this weird cotton candy/pop saccharine feel to it that I do not like. Yeah just big sweetness and not a lot of spice or toastiness

Hey /ck/, I know fuck all about whiskey but I’m on a cruise right now and a mate is insisting I have to grab one from the duty free alcohol store to try. I’d grab some from one of the bars onboard to try but they charge $15 just for a small glass of the cheapest stuff, and I’m keeping most of my money for shoreside crap. What would you all recommend I get?

>>13630658
Bundaberg Solera
One of the 4 Pillars

That's about it, it's not a great selection.

>>13630679
Yeah I was gonna grab some Bundaberg, the Belarusian fella behind the counter’s offering me discounts on everything because I spoke a little Russian with him so the expensive stuff is still pretty cheap now. Is the whiskey range really that average? I had someone recommend the Johnnie Walker Black & Blue Labels to me, and was thinking of grabbing one of them to try.

>>13630699
Johnny walker can be had anywhere in the world at a decent price. There's actually some money to be saved on the blue, so go for it, it's great. That said I think you can do better for the money even with the savings.
The range isn't great. Just blends and Bourbon. You don't want to buy Bourbon in Australia because a lot of them are reduced alcohol versions at bad prices and they don't have to live up to Bourbon laws like 40% minimum abv (and presumably the other laws, like corn or new barrels either).

>>13630736
Yeah I was hoping for some more variety honestly, but the Belarusian bloke told me they weren’t restocked with liquor after the last cruise so they’re working with a limited inventory. I’ll still take what I can get though. And is that shit about the bourbon for real? I had no idea that was a thing over here.

>>13630736
That's awfully scummy if true.
Also, if it isn't made in the US, doesn't have a mashbill of 52% corn, and isn't at least two years old, it isn't bourbon.

>>13630777
I looked into the US-Australian trade deals. The agreement is that Australia must conform to the American Bourbon standards. The American bourbon standards state that the rules regarding various distilled spirits only apply to products sold within the US, but I could not find any rules regarding internationally sold products.
So it is scummy. Of Americans.

There are Australian laws regarding what we are allowed to call whisky, however. They state 37% minimum, 2 years in a barrel, any cereal.

Bottles gifted from the holidays.
The half gallon of knob creek small batch has been my daily. Four roses SB is an old favorite. Henry McKenna BiB and Wild turkey SB are two I definitely like. I like Old Forrester statesman, so I'm looking forward to try the BiB.
And yes, that is a bottle of blanton's too, again these bottles were gifts, and a friend who is on the secondary market got it for me. I've bought and enjoyed blanton's long before the hype. I haven't got it recently because I enjoyed it at its retail price $65-75. I refuse to pay more because of marketing schemes, movie memes, or sudden newfound popularity.

don't like the peaty taste, hella love the smokiness of scotch. what are your usual go-to sub-$50 single malts? having some Glenfiddich 12 now cos they were on sale in the grocery

>>13617264
>japanese
>meme
based ignoramus

>>13630892
>Wild turkey SB
what is it like compared to wild turkey rare breed?

>>13631007
SB has more of a bite, rare breed comes off as smoother, but almost to the point of being watered down.

>>13630658
I'd grab a bottle either of the Femy Martin, but that's just me.

>>13631061
thx mate

i actually like the rare breed, but SB seems to be even more to my taste

>>13618487

I quite liked that one, but I don't want to pay as much as they were asking for it.
Their absinthe is fantastic.

thoughts? it's the first Islay I've tried. I think it's breddy gut for its price

>>13617132
Should I get the Springbank 12 or the 15? The 10 is my favorite affordable single malt and I also love the 18. If you've had both can you describe?

>>13631396
It's priced appropriately, there are far better islays out there but it's a fair introduction. The 15 is really something great.

>>13631381
>Their absinthe is fantastic
does it tastes different from classic absinth like pernod absinth?

>>13629880
I love how simply from reading this, you can tell exactly what this guy looks like. The soy is strong with this one.

>>13630658
Johnnie Walker Double Black is the best thing on that whiskey list, which isn't saying a lot at all.

>>13630699
For a 1 Liter that's a pretty good price for Blue Label, it's twice that much for a 750mL where I live.

>>13630861
If it's sold domestically in the US, it's probably the same stuff for export, though possibly watered down to a lower ABV.

If it's an export-only "bourbon" brand, like this (sold at Aldi stores in Europe), all you can really say is that some of it came from America.

>>13617132
>fourgoodwhiskiesandtalisker.jpg

>>13630861
It's scummy of your country's distributors. Watering bourbon down to 20-30% before export produces more logistical strain than financial benefit, so generally it isn't done.

Under US law, bourbon has to be aged in new barrels. In the '80s Brown-Forman started reusing barrels and stopped labeling Early Times as "bourbon." It's just "Kentucky whisky" now.

But because export rules are different, in other countries it can still be labeled bourbon.

I tried that Skrewball Peanut Butter Whiskey and it was fucking horrible. Thought I would give it a shot since I like Fireball and that's flavored and I like peanut butter so... nah. Just like, a weird after-taste of nuttiness but it's gross

>>13632171
I cannot believe that shit is selling for $30/bottle.

>>13632171
It doesnt taste like peanut butter or whiskey, it reminds me of smirnoff rootbeer or espresso

>>13617475
>age it
they don't even put in that much effort

>>13631849
Jack Daniels is bottled at 37% in America for sale here. Though it does vary on a bottle by bottle basis. Bourbon that isn't sold in America at all would obviously be bottled here.
Also no scotch has its alcohol reduced and the regular laws regarding scotch fully apply.
So I doubt it's the distributors. Also distributors tend to be multi national at least when it comes to imports.

>>13632171
If you want peanut flavored whisky just buy literally any non-bottom-shelf Jim Beam bourbon that isn't Old Grand-Dad.

>>13631396
I've got a bottle of this on the go. My first Islay as well. I like the smokiness but after getting to know the bottle it tastes a bit medicinal. Since then I've tried Ardbeg and have to say that it is better, but much more expensive. If your autistic like me, next time you have a dram of the Bowmore, leave your empty glass out unwashed and give it a sniff in the morning. It smells amazing.

Anyone tried pic related? I don't really trust "no name" scotch with out an age statement, but I want to get another Islay single malt without breaking the bank.

>>13617132
Pretty mild as far as whiskey goes, the peach adds a nice flavor.

>>13633310
Depends where you are, what you like and whats available.

Laphroaig Quarter Cask is almost always available at a 'reduced' price for me - normally available for about £25-£30 ($32-$38). Not as good as Ardbeg, but much cheaper. Although it also has that medicinal taste.

Picked up a bottle of Slane Irish Whiskey.
It's delicious.
Goes on the priceworthy tier of Irish Whiskeys.
I've mostly been a gin drinker until this foray.
What do you recommend I pick up next? I haven't found a scotch I enjoyed, and the only Irish I've tried that I don't care much for is Jameson.

Speysides are so fucking boring and bland. You might as well drink bourbon.

>>13633477
Truth. The only scotches flavorful enough are peatbombs (and then only heavily peated, not medium or light peated) and sherrybombs.

>>13633477
You don't get fresh fruit flavours from bourbon. Nor do they age well.

>>13633477
*blocks ur path*

I've been meaning to buy highland park 18 since I have the money for it.
I had a drink of it at a bar once and remember it tasting like HP but was pretty tanked at that point.

Is it worth considering I think HP12 is already so good?

>>13633707
Used to be great, is only above average these days

>>13633426
Slane is a good blend. Nice fruitiness and creaminess in there.

I would recommend next that you pick up Auchentoshan 12. It's a scotch that tastes a lot like Irish, with lots of vanilla and tropical fruit (for me, anyway).
Another option is Power's John's Lane, or Signature Release or Three Swallows if that isn't around. The Irish whiskey(s) that I like the most out of all of Midleton's single pot still offerings.Really dessert-y

>>13630658
Fuck that, hit duty free in port. That's where I found my unicorn barrel proof Blanton's. It was less than $200. Nothing of interest on the cruises I've been on, they're always shilling something that's cheaper in port.

>>13633756
It's worth it to spring for the 18 imho

>>13633707
>Is it worth it

no. its heavily overpriced. if you are lookin for a peat+sherry dram, try bowmore 15yo

not as smooth as hp 18yo,but still good and way cheaper

>>13633686
>blocks ur path

gets crushed

>>13634062
The REAL answer if you want a nice peat+sherry dram at a good price is just mixing Laphroaig 10 or Ardbeg 10 with Glendronach 12 or Glenfarclas 12.

>>13634071
seriously?

lol i tried it once with glenfarclas 105 and laphroaig QC. the result was...not exactly overwhelming

whats yoor mixing ratio? 50-50?

>>13620825
Balvenie Rum Cask is very sweet, too sweet for me, but an easy transition.

redpill me on dalmore

their bottles are friggin expensive but I rarely see anybody discuss them

>>13634890
Try a glass of it in a bar so you don't waste money on the whole bottle. It tastes like a fancy bourbon, very unadventurous and nothing special.

>>13634890
>>13634949
>nothing special

have to agree on that. not a bad whisky but simply overpriced

>>13619405
That's a really dumb opinion

why yes, I drink J&B, how could you tell?

why yes, I drink J&B, how could you tell?

>>13628355
what a fucking attitude

>>13617264
>obligatory buffalo trace dickrider

Waiting for your boast about how many secondary market bottles of blantons you over played for.

Best whiskey and beer for jaeger bombs? I've tried some different combos, so far Jameson and Glenfiddich (12) seem to work with more types of beers than the others

>>13634452
Yeah 50/50 and now that I think of it it works better with a richer sherrybomb like Glendronach than a sweeter sherrybomb like Glenfarclas.

>>13634890
they took the macallan/highland park pill, AKA jack up price, cut down on quality

>>13635426
I have a love of a few buffalo products, but goddam the hype is ridiculous. Yes, Blanton's is good. No, it's not worth the secondary market prices. Good luck getting antique anything, and fuck looking for pappy. It's all so tiresome.

I do like seeing people find other stuff they like and sharing it. And if you happen to like buffalo, friend, and can find it (very young distillery) new riff is very good, and similar profile to what I've really loved from buffalo. Ymmv, and I drive by the distillery at least once a year, so I feel like I'll be able to find it rather readily.

>>13635730
alright i give it try. ardbeg 10 and benriach 12 sherry cask should work

maybe we should make `personal-whisky-blend` thread :)

>>13635772
dalmore has never been that great in the first place. but at least they didnt fuck up their core-range and watered down their stuff that bad

ever drink unaged? I tried it once, on a distillery tour, and it was pretty damn rough.

Do you enthusiasts ever buy low-grade whiskey and mix it for drinks or are you beyond that?

>>13636871
I just buy low grade stuff and drink it straight.

Probably should stop though

>>13636871
I always have a $17 handle of Dewar's White Label from Costco in the house. It's the "well scotch." It gets used for rusty nails and is sometimes mixed with Laphroaig. Sometimes I'm in the mood for straight Laphroaig and sometimes I'm not in the mood for the full medicinal blast of Laphroaig so I mix it with Dewar's for a mellower but still quite smoky dram.

>>13636871
I usually have a bottle of Grant's around, it's decent enough for those occasions where I don't want to empty the fancier whiskies as quickly

>>13636169
>62.5% Alcohol

>>13636871
I buy mid-shelf for mixing, top-shelf for sipping, I'll buy low grade shooters if I'm sneaking it into a movie or concert.

Total Wine or Specs or local liquor store
where do you buy yours?

>>13636871
I Old Fashioneds quite a bit, I'll usually make them with cheap rye or bourbon, Wiser's, Forty Creek, Four Roses etc. I always use a whisky that's good neat, because I'll inevitably drink it neat more often than not. I'd never use a higher whisky for a cocktail though.

>>13637941
the state of NY bans chain stores from selling liquor so it has to be a local for me
in some areas (a few US states and counties, most of Canada, the Nordic countries) there's a government-owned liquor monopoly, I'm curious about people's experiences with them.

Jim bean is fucking aweful
even among bottom shelf burbons