/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13593935
It's two different dishes. I used to put beans in, but now I just do all meat.

chili is just a flavor of soup. soup can have beans

>>13593935
no, you put chili on rice

How spicy should chili be?

>>13593935
As someone eating low carb (don't worry I won't spaz out on you guys just saying) absolutely put beans in my chili. I don't care how proper it is to not include beans.

>>13593935
Yes, absolutely, everytime. Without beans it's not even chili you're just eating meat sauce or sloppy joes without buns

Trick question since it's literally not chili if it has beans. It's just spicy bean and meat soup. My source is the chili society which trumps any autistic ideas you may have

Yes, but the ratio should favor the meat. It should be meat with beans, not beans with meat.

>>13594161
>the chili society
the first fucking image has beans on their site.

>>13593935
Yet another same stupid thread, if you're the one making the chili put what you want in it. Personally I don't understand why anyone else would give a shit if beans are in it or not.

The only time that it might matter is if it's competition shit but then who bothers with that?

>>13593935
Yes,yes, always yes,chili needs beans cowboys needed to poop and get cheap laughs while on the trail,this is historical fact.

>>13594169
Sure, kid

>>13594209
We've literally never had this thread before, tourist

>>13593935
If it doesn't have beans it's not chili it's just meat sauce, it has to have both

>>13594246
Thanks dad.

chilli without beans is just spaghetti sauce

>>13594400
Anything with beans is poor people food

>>13594405
spaghetti is also poor people food

>>13594249
god fuck off newfag

Chili needs beans and chunks of tomatoes in the very least.

>>13594408
No. It may be eaten by poor people at times but it is still originally a classy and tasteful dish. There is no dish with beans that's classy or tasteful. Just poor people slop because beans are dirt cheap

>>13594076
somewhat spicy

>>13594430
ok poory

>>13594447
Are beans all you can afford or something nigger? Why are you frothing at the mouth defending beans?

>>13593935
you fags will be arguing this in 2050

>>13594481
There's a difference between not being able to afford something and just likeing beans in chili sometimes, not being able to understand the difference marks you as retarded. Who in their right mind eats the same thing 100% of the time?

>>13594481
What you're asserting is that you have no choice.

>>13593935
love beans in my chili, it gives it more texture, some fibre, some estrogen

texans can fuck off

>hamburger patty
yeah this would be better if we had beans in it, to add as cheap filler
>sloppy joes
yeah this would be better if we had beans in it, to add as cheap filler
>ragu
yeah this would be better if we had beans in it, to add as cheap filler
>hungrarian goulash
you know what this needs? more beans, take out some meat and add mores beans cause it needs more cheap filler in it

>>13593935
Sure, but no corn...

>>13594519
How are you equating all of that to some chili and personal taste? It seems that the only people that really care about beans in their chili and the ones that do it at competition level where there are strict rules.

>>13594533
Carrots too, I've seen some weird shit in chili that makes beans seem pretty minor.

carrots and corn, real soccer mom shit for chili

what the fuck is next, green beans or peas?

Yes, beans give a nice texture contrast and more fiber. You can eat more of it in one sitting.

>>13593935
Depends on the application. Chili as a solo dish should be served with beans. Chili served as a topping for things like hotdogs or cheese fries should not have beans.

>>13593935
for me its a no
but i can see the apeal of adding beans

Masa harina is great in chile as a thickener, most folk don't think of it because it's not redily available unless mail ordered or if near hispanic stores.

I add a can of bush's or whatever other interesting sounding baked beans I can find

>>13594161
>my source trumps the creators of the dish
the nuns that created chilli literally threw in whatever they had to make it you dummy, if they had beans on hand there would have been beans in it. also, chili literaly is a stew with a chilli sauce base

I'm heating up some water for some beans right now to add to some chili. It'll be a mix of kidney beans and black beans but first I have look through them for debris and stones. They're from Goya which is a good company but even say write on the their packaging to look through them.
In about 25 years of doing this I've found like 3 little stones, I saved them in a little canister just as proof, nobody wants to bite into a fucking little rock or stone and break a tooth.

>>13594539
adding edaname beans is great, it adds much needed nutrition and color

>>13594563
I wish more brands would start using magnets to sort beans so the extra cleaning isn't needed

>>13594566
Thanks, I saved that suggestion for next time.

>>13594430
>but it is still originally a classy and tasteful dish
spaghetti was originally made for portability you dumbass poorfag

>>13594569
I don't think that they can, some little stones aren't magnetic. They do try to find them all but there'll always be something that get passed.

>>13594574
the beans are ferromagnetic due to their high iron content

>>13594572
I thought that was chef-boy-ar-dee

>>13594576
Maybe one tiny little stone is under a scanner or something like that, heck only three in 25 years isn't too bad.

>>13594576
Even with the best scanners on the planet there's no excuse for not going through it yourself to be sure. If the company itself writes it on their bags to look through it then its wise to follow their directions.

It takes a lot less time to look through some beans for debris and stones than to deal with a broken tooth.

I dip my chili in an ultrasonicator after cooking just to be safe

>>13593935
Do you want beans in the chilly ?
Yes = put beans in
No = don't put beans inside

Don't let other people tell you what to do.
My family loves when I add those big buttery white ones.

Did I order a fucking meatsauce? No, I ordered chili. Give me beans. That's what makes it chili.

>>13594562
Nuns didn't create chili, it was created by cowboys using what they had on hand at the time.

>>13594607
That ultrasonicator sounds like some kinky thing from Buck Rogers.

>>13593935
If there are beans, it's not a chili, it's a spicy bean stew.

>>13595140
Are those butterbeans? I keep looking for those but never see them in stock around the stores near me.

>>13593935
It can have beans in it but it does not need them. Fags saying chili with beans in isn't chili are just autistic retard

>>13595382
Without the beans you wouldn't be able to brap around the campfire.

>>13595372
Not true. Nuns invented chili to quell masturbation among school children, much like corn flakes.

>>13595400
Naw, that was hitting people on their hands with switches and telling them that they'd get hairy palms if they kept up their evil ways.

Chili is made without beans. Beans make chili better. So, yes.

If you like beans then I hope you enjoy them on your children's graves because your bloodline is weak and will not survive the winter

>>13595988
I would say the same to you, pathetic little man who can not bear to eat from different food sources.
We are omnivores, start acting like one and stop being a little bitch.

>>13593935
Once you put beans in, it's not longer chili. Doesn't mean it isn't good, it is, but it's not chili.

>>13593935
either or

>>13593935
Chili belongs on spaghetti with a handful of cut white onions and shredded cheese

>>13596117
most chili mac has beans tho.

>>13596132
Ah, no. What you're referring to is actually spicy meat and beans over pasta. Chili mac does not contain beans since it's literally not chili if it has beans. I'm glad you see the light now

imagine being a food snob when you don't even know how to cook

>>13596237
Who are you referring to, retard

>>13593935
Maybe

>>13594076
1 habanero in a big pot usually gets it close, then some cayenne to taste

>>13593935
I like the flavor and texture of bean-matter, but I don't like the texture and "isolated bursts" of the individual beans themselves in the chili.

I've been thinking about trying to incorporate re-fried beans. It would thicken the FUCK out of the chili, so I would either have to be very sparing with it, or thin it out with some other kind of sauce/juices. Has this ever been done? Can anyone speak of the results?

>>13593935
I put spinach in my chili, and usually put greek yogurt on the side in lieu of sour cream

>>13596287
As someone who autistically hates beans, chili using refried beans is pretty good. It's probably the best chili I've had

>>13596260
/ck/ in general

>>13593935
Used to add beans, but once I just used chunks of chuck steak, onion and peppers, a can of diced tomatoes, some tomato paste and some wine, it was really hard to go back to adding beans.
They really just get in the way.

>>13593935
BEANS AND CORN

If you just want chunky meat in a spicy sauce go make a fucking goulash

who fucking cares. Eat chili con carne, eat chili sine carne, just enjoy the flavour, what the fuck are you faggots getting so upset over?

>>13593935
If there are beans it's not a chili, it's a laxative

>>13594161

> My source is the chili society
> autistic ideas you may have

Fortunately the chili society is 100% non-autistic, and is instead full-sperg.

those are all lies and meat eaters should be shot, but we don't need to do that because their eating habits will kill them soon enough.

>>13597772
based, i'm a plant eater myself. I dont think we should eliminate dumb people though, they'll get around. When some super bacteria wipes them out

>>13597772
>their eating habits will kill them soon enough.
>average person eats over 100kg meat in a year >average person has a life expectancy of around 80 years

>>13597800
is there a correlation between long life and eating meat

>>13597816
Probably not but it's retarded to assume that eating meat leads to an early death when the average person consumes huge amounts of meat and still gets old as fuck.

it is literally not chili ithout beans lmao>>13596147

>>13593935
why waste your time on flavorless fillers when you can just have more meat and chilies? If you're too poor to afford an acceptable amount of what makes chili, then do what you must, but don't insult us all by claiming that adding beans is an improvement.

>>13594076
just a shade under too spicy to eat.

>>13595372
Cowboys usually had beans around.

>>13594543
>Depends on the application. Chili as a solo dish should be served with beans. Chili served as a topping for things like hotdogs or cheese fries should not have beans.

with a side of beans, so that you can actually taste them, sure. Bean IN chili is pointless, flavorless, fillery, mush.

>>13593955
Adding beans makes it a stew

Duh

>>13594430
Unless you're buying organic pasta that is found in an upscale grocer's refrigerators, you're likely paying $0.60-1.20 a pound for spaghetti.

without beans it's just bolognese sauce

How about, beans only?

>>13598065
>flavorless
You’re either a heavy smoker or just trolling. How can you anti-bean retards maintain that beans are literal filler when so many other dishes feature them in prominent roles?

>>13598194
Chili and bolognese have absolutely nothing in common.

>>13598183
You just eat plain spaghetti? Retard detected

it makes more chili for almost no extra cost so yes

>>13598220
not him but they are flavorless, beans provide nothing but a vehicle for sauce

look at how many curries are improved if you removed beans and add say.. tandoori chicken

I can't think of a single meal where if you replaced the beans with meat, it wouldn't be better

the only time it wouldn't if it was just entirely a bean meal, like say... refried beans, you can't really replace that with beans or baked beans

but if you add it to a dish to make it weightier or have more substance, it is literally just filler

>>13598702
Your tongue is burnt out. Beans have flavor.

>>13598715
if you produced a bean flavor chip and tasted it blind, again just bean flavor not all the shit and spices and broth you add to flavor it, what would it taste like?

>>13593935
Apparently for Texans it's just beef.
I use beans.

>>13598722
Beans. Have you ever tried tasting the water you cook dried beans in? It tastes like beans. If you concentrated beans and put them on chips they’d taste like beans.

bean flavored chips from kroger are pretty good

Can someone give me a good chili recipe? I have 4.5lbs of ground beef that I gotta use up soon, and I’m thinking a big ol batch of chili will do. I like to mix all the seasonings together myself but it’s been awhile since I’ve made my own chili seasoning

>>13594034
Eww... Why?

>>13594076
too spicy to look at

>>13598722
beans, im guessing

Bean chili as a main meal. Yes
No bean chili as a topping. Yes

>>13598787
>ground beef
well you already fucked it up

>>13598807
Well, I got the beef from my mom since she didn’t want it. I don’t really cook with ground beef much but I figured chili would be a good way to use it all up quickly.

>>13598783
and what does that taste like? the only thing you taste in the water after you boil beans is salt

>>13598815
Nobody in their right mind boils beans in salt water unless they have no choice, that makes it take a boat load longer to cook. Aromatics fine but not salt.

>>13598815
It tastes like beans. Beans don't taste like other things, but they don't taste like nothing I can tell you've never actually cooked with them yourself.

>>13598787
4.5 lbs is a heck of a lot for your first time doing it unless you're sharing it with a lot of people. Try with just one pound and freeze the rest.

>>13598826
beans don't taste like anything, its why you can properly explain it, the only way you can sort of describe it is starchy and that's not really good, maybe green beans have a more herbal notes while black beans are more earthy but generally they don't carry much of their own flavor hence why bean recipes always have you adding a shit ton of herbs and spices and fats to it to make it actually taste like something

there is a reason why bean and bean products are used for the most part as meat substitute, cause it's flavorless mush that they can put any type of chemical and flavor into it

>>13598831
Maybe you have mutant taste buds or you've burnt out your tounge but various beans do taste different only morons with agenda say otherwise and stick to their wrong evil ways.

>>13598834
k you've since used no arguments except name calling so I'll add that to my win column

>>13594155
Sounds good to me.

>>13598836
>muh w/l
Not him but you’re an idiot. Beans are not mostly used as meat replacements, that’s probably just your misunderstanding as an idiot with no sense of taste.

>>13598790
because I don't like beans of course.
you just make no beans chili normally, put them on piping hot rice then mix it

picrel is the only way to eat chili and you should kys yourself if you disagree

>>13598787
Why don't you freeze the ground beef like a normal person and use it when you want.

Put literally everything into chili. It's peasant slop so who the fuck cares?

if you dont put beans in your chili then its just spicy meat. If you want to make your own association of dicks who eat chili without beans thats your problem

>>13593935
It's optional, but it's a cheap way to add mass. Rinsed kidney beans won't change the taste much. But they change the consistency.
Beans are high in protein and pair up well with rice nutrition wise. But it's already a meat based dish, so you might say it's overkill.

BEEF PLUS TOMATOES PLUS CHILIES THATS FUCKING IT THATS ALL NO OTHER SHIT ALLOWED HOLEEEE FFFFUCK IF YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT BEANS I WIL SHIT AND CUM AND FART SO BAD BECAUSE BEANS MAN IF I SEE THAT GOTDAMN BEAN ONE MORE TIME

Guys can I put beans in my borscht? There are so many different takes on it and this one calls for crushed tomatoes and cannellini beans.

>>13601215
Ah you are making bolognese

>>13594076
Enough to get your nose to run, but no more.

>>13594140
beans are pretty high in carbs my dude

>>13596286
>one

How do you even taste just one? For a pot with 2 lbs of beef I use 6-8 habaneros.

>>13601215
>tomatoes

completely unnecessary. That's what poblanos are for. a bit of tomato paste is acceptable, however.

>>13594155
This. Where's bean boy when we need him most?

>>13594076
It shouldn't be at all. Mild heat is fine but any hotter distracts from the food.

Hell yeah dude throw some beans and tomatoes in there, mix it with rice and melted cheese and eat it by the spoonful or with chips.

>>13599408
Nah, chili, with beans, on pasta, specifically shells.

reminder if you put cheese or sour cream on your chili you belong on reddit

>>13593935
No, but if they are in chili, then I only want one kind, red kidney beans.

>>13602399
Go fuck yourself.
>>13594034
Disgusting.
>>13594076
What >>13598049 said.

>>13599764
chili mac from a can?
You've really fallen from grace.
Fix your evil ways and come back to the light while you still have a chance.

>>13593935
chili deserves nothing less than dark red kidney beans and diced tomato rotel, with a small garnish of shredded colby jack cheese on top served in a deep bowl, with crackers on the side to add as desired

>>13593935
>Beans in chili? Yes or no?

Chili is an ancient Mesoamerican stew that consists of tomatoes, chili peppers and BEANS, meat is in fact optional and if your chili doesn’t contain BEANS, it’s not chili.

>>13602640
>crackers on the side

The crackers should be crushed and put in the bowl _first_ with the chili ladled on top afterward, otherwise you’ll have to laboriously try and stir the crackers in after and they will spill out of the bowl and make a mess.

>>13602748
no it's not you fucking idiot

>>13602247
>that’s what poblanos are for
not him, but could you explain? in what way do they fill the same role?

>>13602748
>>13602959
>In Spanish, the word chile, from the Nahuatl chīlli, refers to a chili pepper, and carne is Spanish for 'meat'.
>A recipe dating back to the 1850s describes dried beef, suet, dried chili peppers and salt, which were pounded together, formed into bricks and left to dry, which could then be boiled in pots on the trail.[1]
>Chili originated from what is now northern Mexico and southern Texas.[2] Unlike some other Texas foods, such as barbecued brisket, chili largely originated with working-class Tejana and Mexican women.[2] The chili queens of San Antonio, Texas were particularly famous in previous decades for selling their inexpensive chili-flavored beef stew in their casual "chili joints".[2]

So basically you are a retard. Chili originated from Chili con carne.

Chili = chili pepper
con = with
carne = meat

where does beans fit in to that?

>>13594155
>Thinks chili should taste like sloppy joe
Anon you're not doing any of it right. Chili is an earthy flavor, not sweet

>>13594400
Anon, it's shouldn't taste like tomatoes.. It should taste like chili's. That's why they call it chili.

>>13602983
Not him. They should be a large part of the base for the broth. The flavor of chili peppers is the base for chili. Except I think he means anchos which are dried pablanos. The base of chili is red because of the peppers used, anchos, guajillo, whatever ones you want. Rehydrate the chili's and blend them with beef broth, very similar to traditional mole sauces
This is then cooked with beef and bam, you've got a chili. Aromatics like fresh chili's and onions are also very often used. I make this chili sauce in bulk and freeze it, so making chili is a simple quick meal. It freezes very well.

>>13593935
Yes.

Also
>itt: retarded non cooks who think chili with beans becomes soup.
Do you fucking idiots not know the consistency of soup or something?

>>13598787
get a bunch of peppers. like this many for 2lbs. double for 4lbs. cut the stems and seeds out. toast them in a dry pan and then start soaking them in hot chicken broth. brown your beef. fry some diced onion and garlic. blend the peppers and dump everything into your pot. season with oregano and cumin.

if you can't get the right peppers use a good chili powder like gebhart. for 4lbs of meat use about 1 cup of powder.

>>13601124
>just spicy meat.
the name is literally peppers with meat

>>13593935
Hot dog chili, no. Standalone chili with crackers or whatever, yes.

>>13593935
if chili cannot have beans, and chili con carne means chili with meat, then simply chili cannot have meat or beans.

>>13604438
The chili con carne reasoning makes sense, but a lack of beans is not implied.

>>13594400
>If it doesn't have beans it's not chili it's just meat sauce, it has to have both

>>13605242
Yes

>>13601215
Might as well just eat straight ground beef with some black pepper at that point.

I put beans and also corn in and eat it with bread

Let's be clear about this...if it does not have beans in it, it is not chili. How about that? You got it? Need further elaboration?

>>13593935
Yes to beans. Lots of beans. Maybe chili wasn’t intended to have beans, but I love beans and if they taste great in something I see no reason to not put them in there.

>>13594076
Spicy but not too spicy. Between Hot and Mild

>>13605615
But my mild is probably hotter than your too hot

>>13593935
I enjoy them, but if I were asked to make chili for someone who doesn't like beans, I would happily omit them.

>>13594076
Spicy enough that you can get away with using rancid meat.

>>13594155
>sloppy joes without buns

>>13593935
Of course. If it doesn't have beans in it, it's not chili lmao

if you're not going to put beans in it, just throw in some macaroni for some delicious Goulash

>>13605835
That's not goulash nor how goulash is made you ignorant garbage person

>>13605851

>>13605851
>person who doesn't know what chili is supposed to look like doesn't know what goulash is supposed to look like either
what a surprise. these are the beanfags you argue with.

A chili traditionally has no beans, meat, tomatoes, corn, or chilis in it. Instead it is made from dried up tobacco leaves. And instead of making a soup, it is rolled up in another tobacco leaf and smoked.

>>13593935
only in soup chili. Hotdog chili is beef only.

>>13593935
Chili with beans is not chili.

They should come up with a new name for chili with beans, like bean chili or Bechili.

Yes. Chili with beans is Bechili.

>>13605851
It's goulash made by the children of immigrants with inexpensive and/or local ingredients meant to be shared at a party. During a Gallop poll in 1969, it was named the 5th favorite dish in America. During the 60's there was a thing about making dishes based on your ancestor's food, even if it wasn't authentic.

Cry all you want, it's fucking delicious and was meant to honor Hungary and the surrounding regions.

>>13594405
>Anything with beans is poor people food
Chili IS fucking poor people food.

It's cheap cuts of meat that are ground up and stewed so no one can tell they're 90% gristle, then overloaded with chili peppers so that no one can taste the poor quality of the meat either.

>>13606230
Uh oh. I'm putting beans in my chili! Oh no, I'm still calling it chili...oh god, now everyone else is calling it chili too!
If only you'd been here to force your meme before the damage became permanent.

>>13594076
just enough

>>13593935
chili isn't stew. adding beans to a thicky soupy mixture yields stew. chuck or stew beef with

>>13598787

>>13607320
>/fit/ chili
>not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ3YO7ovPp8