/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13565512
>I just watched the movie...
Opinion discarded. Stop watching alarmist "documentaries".

Once it's on the pan it is inert, but you should never put a teflon pan above medium heat because it will start to break down and leech fluoride gas.
This is well known among pet owners, especially people with birds.

You also don't want to keep a scratched pan, as you'll get flakes of teflon crumbling off the pan and getting into your food.

Yeah, shadow gov is trying to kill us all with teflon, to hide the fact that the earth is flat and hollow

>>13565512
Yes, that is correct. The contaminants are releasd into the water supplies during manufacture. Whole regions where they are produced have poisoned water and higher cancer rates. The non-stick coatings themselves are inert unless heated to above 500ºF, at which point they release toxic fumes. Birds are particularly sensitive to teflon fumes. So usually safe to use, but a terrible chemical tech that needs to end. You get more mileage out of stainless, carbon steel, cast iron, and enameled cast iron. Those are all just better, thicker pans, yet require more cooking technique. Use whatever you want. Weigh the options of ecomomy, durability, ease, ethics.

>>13565537
>I just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the round earth, it’s so GLOBAL and makes me feel like i’m on one of my favourite SPHERICAL OJECTS. You should totally come on down to my penthouse apartment, it’s got EVIDENT CURVATURE OF THE EARTH and everything, we can crack open a nice fluoridated water or three and get crazy watching some ted talks on their free streaming app! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the natural history museum- listen here, right, it’s a MUSEUM where us LEARNERS who do LEARNING can go LEARN. BUT!!!! it’s also about NATURAL HISTORY like when we evolved from lesser lifeforms, so we can discuss awesome THEORIES, without dumb denialists bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to get shot- literally -we’re both getting free flu shots tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can take fewer sick days and earn money to spent more on ourselves and our BOOK COLLECTION. i’m fuckin EDUCATED man, i’m gonna EAT this iodized salt and not develop a goitre!!!

>>13565522
>>13565528
>>13565537
cringe

>>13565512
yeah, teflon is literally plastic. If you cook with it, you will get little pieces of it in your body. Actually, even non-heated plastic from food packaging, cans, bottles, etc. leeches into food. So there's really no way to escape this plastic clown world. Even if you homestead and grow all your own food; soil has microplastics in it, so the plants will suck that up with their roots and have plastic in them too. You can hunt, but wild animals eat plastic too. The entire world is full of this evil, and it is pretty depressing.

Look, if it were up to me, we would just ban all plastics, all chemicals, and all technology (crafts like a wooden bow and arrow or a wool blanket would still be allowed). Sadly most people, especially "normies" think that is too "radical", and we should only take baby steps. Cowards, I say. How can you bear to live in this modern unnatural clown world?
There would only be one major problem if we returned to the stone age now: plastics are already everywhere. So it wouldn't be the same as the epic plastic-free world of, say, Jesus' time on earth

>>13565685
>>>/pol/
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>>13565553
Being skeptical is fine, but being a contrarian is death.

>>13565512
>is it safe to cook with teflon pans
yes

>>13565685
>you will get little pieces of it in your body
[citation needed] also it's non reactive so it just goes right through you.

>>13565740
I have a PubMed article that says plastic-derived xenoestrogens will turn you into an alien tranny with supple plant boobs. Is that a source?

>>13565512
>I just watched the movie Dark Waters, and its ending message was that teflon literally kills you, and that 99% of humanity already have PFOA in their body. Iam very sceptical about these claims seeing that,
You're right to be skeptical. It's alarmist unsupported docu-garbage disguised as scientific. It's not.

Peeling teflon exposes the bonder underneath the inert teflon, ie the glue that bonds it to the pan. That glue layer is what you should avoid. Immediately throw out a darkened or scorched pan, or one that got scarred or scratched by poor handling. Don't buy cheap thinner nonsticks because their rapid heating and cooling bottoms make them wear out fast. Be gentle and use nice rubber spatulas or spoons. Don't heat a small item in the middle of a large pan, for instance. Don't shock them in cold soapy washup when still hot.

Do you want to live your life with the inconvenience of not having nonsticks? Then buy a complete set of ceramic lined cast iron like LeCrueset and the rest regular triple ply stainless steel, and enjoy your slightly less than perfect for every recipe and cleanup-ease choices and be done with it.
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>>13565740
I've never seen a uses teflon pan without at least a few scratches before. Now where do you think that scratched up teflon goes. You think it just magically disappears? It's in your food bro.
Also, like I said before, all plastic leeches. Even if it's not scratched, just touching the hot teflon transfers plastics into your food

>>13565512
Don't ask scientific questions on the fast food board

90% are certified retards like >>13565685

>>13565774
>Now where do you think that scratched up teflon goes.
Into your shit because your body doesn't have the enzymes to convert it into an easily absorbed form.

>>13565765
This is the worst form of contrarianism. This "science says plastic is bad for you, but I know better! My mommy has always used non-stick so it's ok to use!"

Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest contrarian I know. I think we should give political systems like Christian Theocracy, Absolute Monarchy, Fascism, etc. another chance. I think democracy is a joke. I think progress is retarded, and we should aim to regress to better times in the past instead.

But when it's clear that plastics are evil, I take that as a fact. Makes me so sad to live in this plasticky modern age. Unironically born in le wrong generation.
The Agricultural Revolution was a huge mistake, and it's just been downhill ever since.
Depression.

>>13565774
>I've never seen a uses teflon pan without at least a few scratches before.
Mine don't have scratches and they last for years. I have a Simply Calphalon slightly wok-shaped sloping slides very large skillet with glass lid, that I use very often for one pot dinners. It literally wipes clean. I have a medium nonstick frying pan that I use for omelettes, not sure the brand, some defunct chef with orange handle, and it's anodized aluminum and very thick. I'm sure I've had both for more than 5 years and they're used multiple times per week and look brand new. I also have a little 2qt nonstick saucepan that I use for cooking rice for one, on certain nights, or creamy things, no dairy, no rice, no beans stick to that one on the bottom. It's the perfect size for a side like that

Try not being poor and pick out a good pan to begin with, then don't treat it badly. Teflon does NOT leech like plastic does.
Surgeons insert teflon implants in the human body. It's inert.

>>13565813
>Pyrolysisof PTFE is detectable at 200°C (392°F), and it evolves severalfluorocarbongases and asublimate
>Meat is usually fried between 204 and 232°C (399 and 450°F), and most oils start tosmokebefore a temperature of 260°C (500°F) is reached, but there are at least two cooking oils (refinedsafflower oilat 265°C (509°F) andavocado oilat 271°C (520°F)) that have a highersmoke point

>his pan has a lower smoke point than avocado oil
lol

bump

>>13565858
The moral of your story is that no one is wanting to own a nonstick pan for their need of deep frying in oil. so your point is moot. These pans are for other purposes.

Boiling point of water is 212F/100C, far below your concerning 392F. And, you are not cooking fries any of those temps you list, let alone "meat" as you state, no matter what oil you are using. Exaggeration to prove a point is stupid. No one is cranking up the heat on avocado oil in a big nonstick pot to the smoke point, where you're getting the oil to a unhealthy point full of breakdown byproducts (a whole different concern). A grilled cheese is in a pan below 300F all of the time. Eggs of all types are cooked somewhere between 144F-200F all of the time, as well.

>>13565795
not a doctor here, but do you really believe that you need a special enzyme for chemicals to be absorbed by the lining of your digestive tract? what is the enzyme for mercury or lead? the lining of your small intestine is a permeable barrier and things end up in your blood stream if they are capable of being absorbed through that barrier, and there are plenty of examples of things that make it through without being broken down in some way first

>>13565734
... if you don't exceed a certain temperature for long periods

>>13566320
That "certain temperature" being the halfway point of the dial on your stove.

>>13565765
im not sure if i should take medical advice from someone who thinks enamel is ceramic

>>13566329
actually most modern stoves would bring the pan well above a temperature where pyrolysis of PTFE can occur, and all it took was a 10 second google search to discover this

>>13566350
That's exactly what I was implying you sanctimonious twat.

bumpy

ha

nonstick pans are for bugmen, cast iron and stainless are all you need.

>the government wants us all to be debt slaves until we die of old age
>the government is trying to kill us with teflon
which one is it?

>>13567773
The government wants us all to be debt slaves until we hit retirement age and start drawing pensions, then it wants to kill us all with slow-burn chronic illnesses like teflon poisoning, tobacco addiction and obesity.