/ck/ - Food & Cooking

This is where the real shit coven of people come to bitch at human beings.

>>13547459
This is the only acceptable coffee, everything else is a meme.

Why are coffee fags always so far up their own asses with their bullshit?

>>13547519
These are people who have zero adversity in their life. They were born into a privileged petrodollar universe and have nothing better to do than harp on the nuances of dirty bean water. I hate these people so much that I actually stopped drinking coffee entirely just to make sure I never have to have anything in common with them

>>13547459
Olympia Coffee San Sebastian Reserva
Olympia, Washington
Yes
I also just bought a Technivorm and it brews the best coffee I've tasted.

>>13547519
Because Left coasters feel like they deserve an 'outlet' for their rage. So they turn into massive pieces of shit on this one topic. I'm a giant liberal, but coffee fags make my stomach turn worse than 10 cups. Rage always needs an outlet, and rage always finds one.

>>13547534
>Left coast
I love that. I'm stealing that.

Also, what's wrong with being enthusiastic about coffee?

>>13547594
Enthusiastic is great, being a psychopathic malignant narcissist about coffee is an entirely different animal.

>>13547529
>>13547534
Why do these child-palated subhumans come to cry in our thread? We're not stopping you from stuffing your faces with candy, you obese faggots. Leave coffeechads alone.

Today I added pumpkin spice mix, cream, and brown sugar to my coffee and had it with a slice of raisin bread

>>13547629
You're the exact fuck up I was talking about. You're a piece of shit judging others because they don't taste your non existence flavours in coffee. You coffee sommelier fucking idiot. You know 1 in 10 sommeliers actually taste anything at all, right, you stupid fucking garbage human being.

>>13547629
You need to crawl back in the womb and hope you come out right next time.

For me it's Maxwell House International Cafe

>>13547648
Literally nobody gives a shit or said anything about your fucked up palate before you brought it up yourself like the whiny little bitch you are. Go cry somewhere else, fat faggot. Not my problem if you fucked your taste buds, subhuman.

>>13547672
The proper usage of that is untermensch you unschooled dullard. And no I can tell stories about Lagavulin 16, Ardbeg, Talisker, every fucking Islay scotch. But your fucking idiot plaything coffee is just goddamn coffee with a few different flavours that are easily detected. So fucking grow up, get a real hobby like wine(god help you) or single malt. You're not fucking fit for any of that adult shit. So stop hammering people who drink your piss water that you need to pretend is so special.

>>13547672
You fucking idiots are like stamp collectors trying to get people interested in your group.. but but but.. taste the horse hoof glue on the back of this 1920's stamp.. It's really cooooool!

Get a new life. please. And stop Trying to be a small time piece of shit.

>>13547685
>>13547696
What part don't you understand about us not giving a shit about you obese retards fucking up your taste buds from all the sugar you shove down your lard faces? Again, I don't give a shit what sugar-addicted lardasses think, you came into this thread to cry like little bitches on your own. Nobody called you.

>>13547714
I'm 5 10 and 147. I'm wasting away, you dull fuck. Regardless, your child like attempt to make a strawman(look that up you piece of shit) and hammer at it makes you look so fucking weak you couldn't lift a piece of straw.

STOP TRYING, you fucking suck at life in general. Next you need to call God a fat fuck or some dumb shit that comes into your head. Flail my honey, flail.

>>13547714
My point being you can have good coffee with good beans that aren't roasted "downtown" by "Jorge" and still enjoy it as an Americano or Espresso or just a cuntfaced coffee with cream.

>>13547756
Jesus, look at all the meme appliances

>>13547623
Ah. Yeah. Goes both ways unfortunately.
>>13547648
>sommelier
You know I was convinced wine sommeliers were all full of complete shit with their flowery descriptions of wine until I got into specialty coffee. The thing that did it was when I ended up making a good Yirgacheffe that tasted like I’d put a couple smashed blueberries in it. It was amazing. I checked the bag to make sure it wasn’t actually a flavored coffee. That cup was sort of a fluke though. It wasn’t until getting a proper grinder that I could consistently make coffee that delicious again.

That said, those cunts who give tasting notes like “whispered poetry with a hint of moonlight in the finish” are gargantuan faggots deserving of embarrassing deaths.

>>13547768

So "meme" and yet they're useful. Stop saying meme, you fucking idiot. it makes you look 17.

>>13547740
>I'm wasting away, you dull fuck.
Sorry to hear that. What's going on?

>>13547777
People who can positively describe flavours HELP others. People who shit on people that are.. I dunno drinking folgers, are garbage people.

So I applaud your rationality I guess.

REMINDER: dont reply to bait posters.

>>13547779
Nice meme reply, bro

>>13547630
Sounds comfy Anon

>>13547792
Yeah... I think the coffee snob meme is an exaggeration (even itt the venom spewed is virtually all retaliatory) but I’ll admit some of us are genuine cunts.

>>13547756
>roasted "downtown" by "Jorge"
What did he mean by this

>>13547530
>technivorm
Nice. Are you the anon that found one for $50 last thread?

>>13547530
How much better is Olympia than Happy Mug or S and W?

>>13547777
Do you do pourover? What method?

>>13547871
Yeah I use a plastic v60 with James Hoffman's method. It's proven very consistent for me. I use a stagg ekg kettle and Kinu m47 grinder.

You don't need that fancy stuff, really you just need a gooseneck kettle, Timemore Slim, and practice. And good, fresh roasted coffee obviously.

I use 21g coffee to 350g water. I haven't done much playing around with ratios yet, but that's worked well so far.

If I'm eventually going to try going for espresso should I just suck it up and buy the kinu phoenix now instead of going from a timemore slim to a kinu a year or so from now?

>>13548030
Only way this works is if you have someone to gift the timemore off onto for Christmas next year.

>>13548030
Get the phoenix now. Because once you have it, the timemore will be obsolete, and you'll end up having spent $280 on grinders instead of just $200 on the phoenix.

Or do this >>13548076 which is more or less what I did.

Keep in mind that the phoenix will do both pourover and espresso, where the timemore can't do espresso.

I just drank 18 ounces of herbal tea but I still want coffee. Should I ?

Is dark roast coffee a scam? Is it just what roasters do to cover up bad beans, by making sure they all taste the same?
Every dark roast I've had has just tasted burnt to me, but that might just be coincidence because I don't buy it often. Like the darker end of medium is fine, but anything calling itself "dark" always gives me notes of cigarette ash.

>>13548678

532 milliliters of herbal tea? Are you drying to shit your bed?

>>13548030
Do NOT get a handgrinder for espresso. You will regret it 3 days in. Look up the Eureka Mignon.

>>13547459
Lucaffe mamma lucia at the moment. Not bad, not very good either. Decent.
I also have Lucaffe classic in storage.
Another I have in storage is Mokasirs kaapi royale from India. I've had it before, it's one of the best, very rich flavour.

>>13549302
I drink mostly dark roast and some certainly taste burnt but most don't.
Perhaps the method of making coffee also has an effect on how much there is burnt flavour. I make mostly with an espresso machine and sometimes with a moka pot. The moka pot tends to give more burnt flavour imo, especially if you cook it too fast. The moka pot also makes the taste more pungent, especially, again, if you cook too fast.

>>13548030
I strongly disagree with the first two posters and am pretty sure they do not have espresso setups. If you really want to do espresso at one point, you will want two grinders anyways and definitely not a hand grinder. Using an electric grinder for both is a pain in the ass because switching around is not easy and wastes a lot of beans, using a manual grinder is awful for the fine grind espresso requires since it takes a long time and effort. You will need 4-5 shots to dial in any new bag of coffee for espresso and you're gonna hate yourself if you do it with a hand grinder.

So, look at your budget and decide. You can get the Timemore now if you're cheap on money or the Comandante C40 if you want killer filter coffee and never ever have to upgrade. Then, when you really decide to get into espresso a few years from now on, buy a good electric grinder just for that. This way you also don't throw / gift away things since you have a use for everything.

Got this today. On the left a Sumatra, on the right an Ethiopian Sidamo. Think I'm gonna try the Sidamo first.

For me, it's Folgers Country Roast.

>>13549603
"I replaced his warp fuel with Folgers Dilithium Crystals. lets watch.."

>>13549570
Just brewed the Sidamo with v60. Pretty damn good. The smell was strong on the berry/citrus fruit so I was ready for acidity, but it's actually very low on that, smooth balanced cup. I expected the brew to suck because the new Hario filters I got were a lot slower than my old ones. But it turned out just fine, not sure I even want to change the grind but I'm gonna try anyways. Maybe it becomes even smoother.

So since last thread people were raving about the moccamaster, I realised that my landlady left me this one. It looks old but is it usable?
And more importantly since I'm alone, is it easy to make say 500ml with these things?

>>13550108
That looks cool man. I'd say give it a shot, though give it a clean with water/vinegar solution.

>>13550223
Will do. Can I buy any coffe filter or do I need specific ones?

Anyone ever been to Tokyo and have any cafes to recommend?

DAE brew it Turkish style ?
The internet tells to brew it at 94°C (201°F) but it doesn't rise at this temperature.
Am I doing something wrong ?
I live at 2530ft high if that matters.

>>13549341
Wrong manlet. Let's work on some arm strength in 2020, Kay?

>>13547768
KitchenAid isn't a meme, unless you actually have no use for the tool. AvE has done takedowns on KitchenAid stuff before and they make surprisingly good quality consumer-grade appliances.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qKp-0h9P18

>>13547459
why do non italians use random italian words for coffee that have nothing to do with it?
Venti (20???)
Latte (milk????)
Mocha (coffee maker????? it's spelt with a k btw)

>>13550688
>what is marketing

>>13549432
>I disagree

Just budget out $300 for handgrinders then another $400 for a shitty misaligned baratza. We need a pastebin to keep morons like you from giving horrible advice.

>>13547859
$50 technivorm I wish, full price for me

>>13547863
Haven’t had the pleasure of trying those roasters but may give them a look. Olympia interested me as they were the first roaster I noticed getting beans that had been honey processed. Tried those and fell in love with the rest of their single origins (from South America)

>>13550782
I explained why you're objectively wrong. You've only posted ad hominem and hyperboles without any argument. It's clear who is the moron.

>>13550108
Nice score, looks like the carafe is incorrect model due to gap between shower head and grounds?

>>13550688
The word mocha/Moka has been associated with coffee for a long-ass time and has nothing to do with Italy. It’s the name of an old shipping port in Yemen where everybody got their coffee in the 1700s. Mocha Java is the name for the blend of coffees they’d pick up in the island of Java mixed with the coffee they got from mocha.

>>13550247
Try to get filters that fit the shape of the basket. I tried nonconforming filters and the expanding grounds overflowed and clogged the basket altogether.

>>13550795
>This way you also don't throw / gift away things since you have a use for everything.

You mean like buying 3 grinders to take up space instead of 1 that will take care of everything you throw at it. Gotcha.

>pretty sure they do not have espresso setups

Your 3bar delonghi ain't shit homie. Calling you a retard is pretty objective.

>>13551325
Gross dirty place, opinion invalidated.

>>13551346
Coffee grounds on plywood. When the last time you replaced your counter top?

>>13551391
More like coffee grounds, dust, a nickel, some trash, coffee stain on the wall. Just slobbish in general.

i fuckin love coffee my dudes
i want a big boy espresso machine
moka pot is okay
but i want 99% crema
so i can pour in that baikeys french vanilla coffee creamer yuummuuyyyy hhahahahahhagahHAHAHHAHGAHAHhahahahah

>>13551401
Not an argument against his points, retard

I got a cheap 100 dollar espresso machine in a grab bag this christmas, been playing around with it.

>>13551325
No one mentioned anything about 3 grinders and the post explained in detail why your one grinder does not, in fact, take care of everything. I'm not gonna restate the points because you have trouble with reading comprehension. Keep up with the strawmans though, you're providing great comedy.
>Flair
You could've just mentioned you're a poorfag who can't afford a real espresso setup.

>>13551761
Nice

>>13551874
Its a massive deal to turn this m47 a half click and adjust. If you're taking 8oz of 14g shots to dial it in, maybe its just you? I can link some videos if you want pal.

Is there ANY somewhat acceptable in flavor decaf coffees out there? I just want to have a nice hot drink in the evening, but every brand I've tried so far has been varying levels of meh to flat out gross.

>>13552096
Just drink normal coffee in the evening. Or tea if you feel like being a faggot.

>>13552136
Can't. Don't let myself have caffeine on weekdays past noon. Fucks with my sleep.

>>13552096
have you tried a local/online roaster? just find one with good reviews. i think most places do at least 1 decaf. remember it still has a small amount of caffeine in it though.

>>13552096
Merit roasters sugarcane decaf is expensive but tastes like strawberries.
Paradise roasters' moonbow decaf is good, sometimes something about it reminds me of like raisin oatmeal cookies. It doesn't straight up taste like that, but there's something toasty, sweet, and raisin-y about it.
I also like Compelling Coffee's decaf colombian. It's sweet and slightly fruity.
Fresh Roasted Coffee LLC sent us one batch of decafs that were decent enough to re-order, but the second batch were all WAY overroasted and about 2 weeks old so while they have a big selection, buyer beware.
HappyMug has a good decaf Sumatra that tastes like a decent Sumatra. Their Rainy Day Decaf just tastes like your standard "coffee" coffee if you're into that.
You can do a search for "decaf coffee subscription" and get lists of good decafs.

>>13552096
>>13552195
https://happymugcoffee.com/collections/roasted-coffee/products/decaf-papua-new-guinea-1
Also just saw this which looks interesting

>>13552170
Why don't you try sucking on a pacifier then you big stupid baby

>>13552281
Why drink coffee instead of monster or Red Bull?

>>13552195
>>13552246
Thanks

>>13552694
no problem

I heard you guys liked iced coffee

>>13553389
I do. Why...?

>>13549624
Lol

Been putting a half scoop of my vanilla salted caramel protein powder in my coffee recently. Shit's godly

>>13554089
did you eat that with avocado toast and rip a fat vape afterwards

Not sure if it belongs here but I want to make my own tea. I want to make something really delicious if any of you have tea leaf combinations or recipes please let me know.

>>13554297
Are you making some sort of implications that protein powder is for hipsters?

>>13547777
I never thought about sommeliers or whoever tastes coffee. But I love coffee since I was a Kid, but always drank commodity Coffee with milk and sugar. I started opting out the Milk like 8 Years ago and the Sugar maybe a year later.

In my childhood years we always had a dripper but quite soon bought a fully automatic coffee machine. I wanted to try many different Beans and bought a gargantuan amount of different commodity and sometimes speciality brands without actually going deeper into coffee. Since drinking black changed my palate quite alot I started to find really big differences in every cafe I have been to, I travel quite a bit and tend to go to a few cafes rated good in each city.

But that one day I drank an Americano in Frankfurt, it was labeled with "testes of Raspberry and vanilla cream".

I was literally laughing about that stupidly flowery description. I still bought it. Immediately upon holding the cup in my handy I was enveloped in a almost crazy degree of raspberry smell. It was literally like I had fresh Raspberry in my hands.

I slurped and the freshness, the light tangy sourness gripped me. It was one of the best coffees I had tasted until that day. I checked the roastery and visited them the same day, trying many more different coffees.

Now I own a comandante c40, an aeropress, V60 and Chemex. I believe I finally can dive into the coffee World after more than 25 Years of commodity coffee drinking. What a great time to explore all this.

>>13549302
It is common knowledge that roasting a coffee bean produces the "roasted" flavor. The darker a bean is roasted the less of the characteristics of the bean, its Origin, come into your cup.

So yes, the darkest roasts almost taste the same compared to lighter roast which emphasize the origin of the bean.

The place the coffee has been grown is one of if not the greatest factor in what taste profile it will present to you. The roaster should know about the individual profile and attune the darkness to it to emphasize the taste and let it shine.

>>13550548
It's not Arm strength nor any strength. I am not any of those posters you referred to but I own a Hand grinder, the most tedious part is how long it takes if you just quickly want to brew a coffee.

>>13555882
Nice

>>13555910
>I own a Hand grinder, the most tedious part is how long it takes
Which hand grinder, specifically?

>>13555910
>>13556102
(I ask because the only people I’ve ever heard complain about the time it takes to grind by hand don’t actually have proper hand grinders — timemore, helor, kinu, madebyknock, Comandante, etc. — and instead have cheap ceramic burr abominations like Hario, javapresse, or Porlex.)

>>13555910
My doubles are 14g, my pourovers are 15g. Takes about 45 seconds with an m47, and I take my time.

>>13554297
no avocado toast but did rip a FAT cloud of shatter my dude HAHAHAHAHAAAHAAA YEEEEEEE BOY

I've posted a few times about hotel coffee over the last few months, thought I'd do so again.
We're having; "hawaiian blend" today lads.
>10% hawaiian coffee

>>13556702
Love it when my coffee comes in a teabag, still smells nicer than kurig coffee. Smells on the slightly darker side.

It's, funny, doesn't really smell like anything during the brew. Just a really faint smell of cheap coffee. But the machine is so damn loud

>>13556792
So strange. Before brewing, it had a fairly robust smell. But now it smells just faintly of coffee and tastes, barely like anything. Just a cheap generic dark coffee flavour. I get the slightest hints of leather on the nose and tobacco on the tongue.
I think I would have had a nicer time chewing on my wallet.

>>13556702
>>13556728
>>13556792
>>13556846
I appreciate the review, Anon. Knowledge is power.

>>13547756
Is this just full bore 15 bar? That seems...unnecessary.

>>13550108
it looks in good nick, so just give it a test run.

>>13556102
>>13556190
Sorry for the late answer, it's the Comandante C40 Rev. 2.

It's not SO tedious that I would recommend a machine grinder in every case. If you drink up to three cups a day or make coffee for 2-3 People maximum at the time it's okay. But lets say the boys come over every weekend and you have to make coffee for 6 People, an electrical Grinder sure would help a lot.

Got this Bodum Filter brewer as a Present, I also use James Hoffmanns V60 Method, makes great coffee.

I still prefer the Aeropress tastewise.

>>13556792
*loud steamed gurgling in the distance*

>>13547491
I drink folgers everyday.

>>13547491
>someone linking folgers or Maxwell

Easiest way to find out someone is a nigger pleb

>>13547519
>why do people enjoy things and have passion about it
>>13547534
>hates coffee enthusiasts
>is a beta leftist

I couldn't be more opposite of a person than you

is this a good setup?

>>13557776
Cafe Llave is one of the few brick tier coffee I've brewed in my moka pot that didn't tasted like boring burnt. Its still pretty basic, bit isn't burnt tasting. Also if the brew comes out sour I find making a slit with a butter knife before brew stops that.

>>13557934
Interesting. What would the slit do exactly?

>>13557968
My guess is it allows the steam to come in abs wet the coffee from top to bottom verses having to rely on it coming up through the bottom to extract the coffee. Its only brick coffee I've run into where it has tendency to to under extract.

Anyone else think coffee smells slightly worse at every stage of the process? Freshly roasted beans smell delicious, I could smell them all day. Grind them, and it smells pretty good. Then pour hot water over them, and the actual coffee liquid smells...okay. Even when it tastes good. But if coffee tasted the way that the roasted beans smell I'd probably drink it by the pint.

>>13558061
I agree actually. The beans smell the nicest. Once ground, they smell like a much more intense version of the whole beans which isn't as nice. As for the smell of the final cup, I have found that varies quite a lot bean to bean. I have had some coffees that smell just like the beans when brewed and some that smell completely different.

>>13547459
Why do they steam the milk for cappuccinos?

>>13547459
*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip* AAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.... i needed that. im not human without my CUAFFEE.

>>13547459
>some coffee
>its from the hospital
>Its decent 5/10. Will get more cause I dont have any alternative.

>unless I sneak into the doctor lounge

>>13560073

>>13560088
The more I read, the worse it became.
I'm sorry anon.

Anon who ordered the Xeoleo Ghost burr grinder from last thread here. It arrived in only 6 days, pretty cool.

Brewed a couple times with it and wow. I don't think I can do the grinder justice. I will say say this: I used the wrong settings in my first two v60 brews and got a 2 min brew and a 4 min brew each, which you'd think would taste under/overextracted each. Nope. Both cups tasted great regardless, no acidity or bitterness whatsoever. Also no coffee grounds stuck to the filter walls at all, it becomes a flat bed like in all those brew demonstration youtube videos (my old grinder was bad with this). I think it's the sifter that does this mostly, though the grind size is very very uniform as well. It can't do espresso tier fine grind, but still produces a more than enough fine grind for things like aeropress. It grinds pretty fast and quiet, too. Honestly nothing but praise for it so far, if you want a filter grinder and don't wanna spend 2500 dollars on a EK43 Mahlkoenig, this is probably your best bet. At 130~ bucks (express shipping included) it is an absolute steal.

If you guys have any questions I will try to answer them. Done with brewing for the day but I will go for a 3:00 v60 brew tomorrow.

are donut shop and breakfast blend agreed upon culinary terms
because I usually like those

why not just eat coffee beans

>>13561159
I like to chew a handful then pour boiling water in my mouth it's the most intense brewing method.

>>13560896
Very nice, Anon.

>>13561149
Not really... Kind of? They’re not standardized terms. Not even “light roast” or “dark roast” are standardized terms. One roaster’s medium will be another roaster’s “oh shit it’s ruined.” (Cough cough Starbucks cough.) They’re blends of coffee that sort of have the same general flavor profile.

They’ll be medium light, smooth acidity, and generally unassuming “classic coffees.” They should be generally the same style of coffee no matter which roaster blends it.
See what characteristics (origins, roast profile, tasting notes) are common across your favorite “donut shop” and “breakfast” blends so you can find more of what you like. (And less of what you don’t.)

>>13561159
In case you’re being serious, it’s because hot water and an appropriate grind do a much better job of extracting flavor and aroma molecules. It’s also a much more efficient use of coffee beans so you get more bang for your buck. Also light roasts can be pretty hard to chew.

Super dark roasts are roasted to the point where all you taste is char, so flavor wise, it doesn’t really matter if you brew or eat them. They’re also easy to chew so that’s why you’ll sometimes see them sold covered in chocolate. But if you like dark roasted coffee, or you get a well roasted dark roast, you’re still better off brewing it.

>>13561185
>immersion brewing in your mouth
>not using a bunch of cafelat robots for espresso bukkake
ISHYGDDT