/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13546442
>gets paid at least $15 an hour, almost certainly more because that wasn't her only table
>complains
fuck FOH

All jobs should involve tipping. I like being I direct charge of how much wagies get paid.

>>13546457
>fuck FOH
Seriously have worked as a dishwasher, buser, and prep cook. Only place I worked was where FOH didn't act like absolute shitheads was the one place they shared tips with the kitchen. Was a 4 star restaurant so I guess they actually respected the chefs.

Servers are so fucking entitled. They expect the tip to scale perfectly by percentage no matter what the total of the bill is. Wake the fuck up, it doesn't take you more effort to pour a $100 bottle of wine than it does a an $18 bottle.

Bitch gets a 15$ tip and complains.. Makes me not want to tip

>>13546442

>>13546442
That would be a pretty decent tip in my country.

>>13546442
Do they really expect more than 15 dollars for carrying food?

>>13546442
I protest the institution of tipping by staying home and cooking my own food.

>>13546442
Tipping a percentage is total bullshit
I tip a flat rate of 3 dollars

>>13546476
>Was a 4 star restaurant
But Michelin only goes up to three

I know this person

>>13546519
Was Zagat rating not Michelin

Do any of you tip for takeout/counter service?

i used to always enjoy these threads and that scene from reservoir dogs but then my friend went on a rant about how tipping was optional and i had a slight change of heart

>>13546493
Yep. We clearly need at least three of these threads on the board at all times. Le epic board culture and all.
The OP image was just someone making a tip out of rounding up to a number they could pay with 50 or 100 dollar bills.

>>13546519
Maybe he meant the name.

4 Star Golden Lucky Dragon Garden Buffet

>>13546528
>Google rating
May as well be Yelp lmao

>>13546534
Fuck no, that's retarded
The only place I see a tip jar at the pick up counter is chinese places but I still ain't tipping for pick up

>>13546541
Was before Google bought them out and Zagats books were the hot thing in NYC.
But hey keep trying to justify your misunderstanding.

Once I went to shari's and ordered fish and chips.
It took them a whole fucking hour. New people came and went and got food before us.
They didn't get a tip, and they didn't get to keep their ketchup bottle either.

>>13546542
I'm always afraid that some entitled little shit is going to fuck with my food.

>>13546536
It is optional. There is no law or regulation stating you need to tip a certain amount, or even at all.

>>13546550
It's not a misunderstanding, no one cares about your Yelp rating lmao.

>>13546556
>and they didn't get to keep their ketchup bottle either.
kek

Tipping culture sucks. Why isn't there any pushback on the laws that allow Restaurants to pay tipped employees below minimum wage?

And for the record, I always tip 20% unless the server is blatantly careless.

>>13546442
Amerifat here, tipping should be done away with. Just pay the damn server a decent wage. Currently in a state where they get $15 an hour before tips. I don't tip on purpose because these people are making over 45 an hour depending on how many tables they have at a time.

Is she splitting the tip with the bus boy and dish washer? If not she can fuck right off.

>>13546584
>Why isn't there any pushback on the laws that allow Restaurants to pay tipped employees below minimum wage?
There is, if waiters don't make above minimum wage with tips the restaurant by law is supposed to match at least minimum wage.

>>13546442
In Germany, when I ordered food for like 150 or something euros and offered a tip of 20 the waitress was like "dude I cannot accept this, are you 100% sure?" and tried to convince me to reduce it.
America is fucked up. Looks like people there would sell their own mother.

Last time I was back home in the UK, I noticed a massive increase in those machines asking if you want to tip on a meal. Jesus Christ, I thought we were safe...

>>13546584
>laws that allow Restaurants to pay tipped employees below minimum wage
there are no such laws, given that employers must pay the difference if the employee does not make at least minimum wage via tips

please educate yourself

Liberals invented tipping to make things difficult for the rest of us.

>>13546568
I mean if you don't want to believe that Zagats was an authority on food reviews in the 90's and 00's that's on you.

>>13546584
Because as much as servers piss and moan, they would not be making nearly as much money if they were paid a regular hourly wage.

They would also be required to claim it all on taxes. Almost all servers I know do not claim most of their cash tips.

>>13546649
By law they're still required to report cash income.
Feel free to report bitchy servers for tax evasion.

Heres a tip
Dont leave me with an empty glass for 10 minutes

>>13546659
How would the IRS even find out how much they owe? Most of them spend it on drugs, which can't exactly be tracked.

>>13546663
>gets paid by the hour instead of the table
Also, literally, just grab a bucket from the wash station. Also, that's a 4chan default filename, you pussy. You'd never do this in real life.

>>13546649
so they commit tax fraud and expect people to feel bad and tip?
and then expect the owners to pay them more than they're supposed to since they're under reporting tips?
that's why i never tip whenever i go out. plenty of places for me to eat locally and most people serve derivatives of the same slop

>>13546663
>slide glass through thin part of ketchup to edge of table where another glass waits to catch water
>literally 12 seconds to wipe off table with a shop towel and then a rag
>carry on with my day
>????
>PROFIT

>>13546663
>going to IHOP

First mistake.

>>13546671
That's why they're required by law to keep written record of tip income. If they're not doing that then they're breaking the law.

>>13546679
It's basically unenforcable. Servers just pocket tips, report a bit to say they're making about minimum wage, and use the rest of the cash directly instead of ever putting it in a bank account. You'd be surprised how many tips are paid in cash even if the bill is paid by card.

>>13546679
I can't imagine someone possibly breaking the law while working at cheap discount diner staffed almost entirely by minimum wage workers and illegal immigrants. No sir.

>>13546688
employers have to track tips at the end of the night so it can be added to payroll and any decent employer will require a third party employee (like a bartender) to cash out every server before they leave
if server 1, 2, and 3 are all averaging x number for tips and then server 4 is completely off the mark, an employer will probably check security cameras, start watching the employee closely, or offering a cash bonus for other servers to snitch
and you are quite literally never going to get into a scenario where every single server will cover for some dumb whore lying to make more money than them

>>13546671
They can’t (or at least not cost effectively), which is one of the reasons why the IRS doesn’t give a shit about servers not reporting tips.

>>13546688
It is fully enforceable, you just need to report it for them to notice.

>>13546649
All the more reason for there to be a pushback. Stop tipping, America. Be the change you want to see.

>>13546568

>tire dealer good
>search engine bad>>13546570

>>13546568
You’re a meanie

Thou shall not covet, wagie. Try being happy with what you have!

>>13546699
the IRS only collects about half to their thirds of non direct income. it really has no capability to enforce the 20000 pages of tax codes effectively on gray area shit like this at all. they have to pick their spots and they're not going to waste it of small potato shit like server tips

>>13546703
tire dealer that only goes to a few select areas too

>>13546724
two thirds*

>>13546717
>iPhone filename
>Reddit
>John 3:16
It's a fucking critical mass of shitposting.

>>13546724
that's where you're wrong. the IRS employs tons of agents to go out and do just that. i've conducted an interview on business owners making 30k. audit interviews are triggered automatically so it really doesn't waste any time

>>13546742
He doesn't have a secure tripcode or additional watermarks, it's barely fissioning let alone critical mass.

>>13546483
That's the glitch in the system. If that's at Applebees and she was running back and forth for ten people she got jewed. But if it was a nice single course dinner for two then she has no reason to complain. Tipping should be abolished as anything other than an extra gesture of gratitude for exceptional service.

>>13546442
I don't understand why they think they're entitled to a percentage of the total. You're not working any harder because I ordered expensive shit

>>13546620
That's retarded.

Why do Americans do algebra when they eat?

>>13546620
Liberals fight for fair wages and conservatives call them socialists for it.

>>13546822
>liberals fight to destroy the middle class and conservatives call them socialists for it.
ftfy

>>13546802
americans were a mistake

>>13546839
>Gonzales
>American
Nice try...

>>13546837
Middle class is getting destroyed by upper class just well.

>>13546847
>>>/pol/

>>13546853
>>>/pol/

>>13546442
Seems like bullshit. The customer most likely split the tip with partial on the card to round the total off to $200, and tossed some cash on the table.

>>13546851
Oh really? Wow, I love socialism now!

>>13546676
I like you. I similarly was thinking about how I'd tackle it. Dude probably thought he was dishing out a difficult brain teaser. Whoever did this has an IQ of like 80 tops. Takes like five seconds to clean up. Nobody's day was ruined and they still got your tip in the end.

>>13546442
>imagine going to school

>>13546676
>>13546879
I prefer to just dump out all of the condiments, along with my drinks and then leave a few quarters hidden among the mess.

>>13546837
>pardon me why I apply boot polish remover to my tongue

>>13546802
I mean she's right. These people have more and should help more. Doesn't mean they have to, of course. What's another $4,907 to this guy? He's richer than God. Quick bit of algebra shows he paid 13.87%. WTF kind of shit is that?

>>13546882
Based

>>13546837
So, to be perfectly clear, you want to preserve a class system, despite America having been founded by those fleeing the regressive class systems of the old world. Which is really just a way of saying you hate America.

>>13546895
I'm going to guess you've never seen a bus cart. Consider yourself lucky. I, on the other hand, have had to work these shit jobs in the past. There's nothing you can do to that table to ruin my night -- including blood and shit. You're not hurting me. I just work there.

damn that thread caught me from like 1 yard and 2,5 inches away ,almost lost 2lbs and my governmental health insurance while laughing at your pathetic countries mentality

>>13546688
this is why i tip on card only.
fuck them

>>13546442
What an ungrateful cunt. Get a real fuckin job if you want to get so pissy about it. Fuck these people.

I deserve a fixed percent of the total cost of the plate of food I am carrying.

Why can nobody just be happy that they are getting extra money in the first place? Even if someone just left me a few bucks it's still extra cash for me. I can understand the sentiment of good work = good compensation but nobody is under legal obligation to tip you well.

>>13546442
Oh fuck you, what im eating and paying for doesnt change hwo good/bad you were at service. if you need to pay tuition, go work somewhere better you fucking piece of shit.

>>13546534
Yes because my local delivery guys are the same ones every time so now I get my deliveries within 15 minutes of it leaving the restaurant.

>>13546483
this. this. this. this. this.

>>13546457
this.
i never tip servers.
if a meal is good i always make a point of asking to speak to the chef and hand him the cash personally.
aint no cunt got balls big enough to take $10 back from the head chef in any kitchen.

>>13547229
this is true
t. professional chef.

>>13546746
You have 75k people trying to enforce tax laws a rocket launcher couldn't fully penetrate through stacked end to end for 325 million people trying to collect $3-$4 trillion in revenue and this is some heavy ass gray area shit with little to gain.

I don't care if you're the IRS commissioner yourself I'm telling you there's zero way in hell to enforce tip reporting in a cost effective manner

>>13546921
>to be perfectly clear I’m a huge faggot
Ya I can tell. So I would hate America because I am middle class and don’t want to deal with artificially inflated prices due to the most worthless people in the work force demanding more than they are worth? Either you’re a waste of life demanding more for doing less than what should be the bare minimum, or you’re a retard who never worked before.

>>13546895
we did this at beth's cafe when this stupid cunt was on the rag or something, then they came over the loud speaker and started harassing us and saying they would spit in our food and if we didn't pay for it they would call the cops. And insulting what my friend had put on the juke box. This was all over nothing, she had taken offense an off comment that wasn't even directed towards her and lost her fucking mind and bitch to her coworkers about it.

My friend flipped her eggs and smeared ketchup on the table, my other friend dumped out literally everything on the table all over the booth, I had to pee, so that was on every surface in their bathroom. I think the staff wanted to fight us but knew we would beat the living shit out of them so they just trembled and looked angry and defeated while my friend calmly took the money out of her wallet, thanked them, and then asked for the cook to take a tip because the food was good.

>>13546598
Most countries don't accept tips, some like Iceland find it insulting.

>>13546895
we did this at beth's cafe when this stupid cunt was on the rag or something, they came over the loud speaker and started harassing us and saying they would spit in our food and if we didn't pay for it they would call the cops and insulting what my friend had put on the juke box. This was all over nothing, she had taken offense an off comment that wasn't even directed towards her and lost her fucking mind and bitched to her coworkers about it.

My friend flipped her eggs and smeared ketchup on the table, my other friend dumped out literally everything on the table all over the booth, I had to pee, so that was on every surface in their bathroom. I think the staff wanted to fight us but knew we would beat the living shit out of them so they just trembled and looked angry and defeated while my friend calmly took the money out of her wallet, thanked them, and then asked for the cook to take a tip because the food was good.

>>13547193
entitlement creep

>>13547295
>and everyone stood up and clapped
Cool. Sounds like a Disney movie.

>>13546442
I always tip at least 20% even at fast food places

>>13546802
If I buy say, a crazy expensive $1000 bottle of wine why should I pay a waiter $200 just because they brought it and maybe opened it for me? This is why percentage based is silly. But so is tipping in general.

>>13547316
>Most countries don't accept tips, some like Iceland find it insulting.
The service charge is the tip. Most countries that claim to be insulted by tipping are the countries that give you no choice, but to tip.

>>13546442
Daily reminder that if you tip, you are only encouraging the continuation of bad service in the US. Tipping directly encourages poor service, because it builds a sense of entitlement in the server. Pretty much anyone who has lived in multiple countries can back this up: look at a map of countries that allow tipping, and countries that don't. All the countries that do allow tipping are known for bad service, like the US. While countries that make tipping illegal are known for good service, like Japan.

Do your part to encourage better service in the US, and don't tip.

>>13547292
See
>>13547400
>The service charge is the tip. Most countries that claim to be insulted by tipping are the countries that give you no choice, but to tip.
The US tipping is not mandatory unlike your country in which the tip is pre-calculated in the bill as some sort of service charge giving you no choice, but to tip.

Here's a tip: go to the bank and get some $2 bills to tip with. This way you can get away with tipping less than 10% because people think they are somehow rare.

>>13547406
Based Japan. If you try to leave a tip in Japan, they'll chase you down to return your money, and if they can't catch you, they'll leave your money at the police for you to reclaim for up to 6 months. And after that, they'll donate your money to charity.

Honestly, after spending 3 months in Japan, after coming back to the US I started feeling bad everytime I tipped anything, so recently I just stopped tipping altogether. Noticed more and more other people doing this to, as people in the US realize they are one of the only countries in the world that tips, so hopefully it catches on.

>>13547442
There's also the comedy that arises from when zoomers think they're fake

>>13547406
I assume most people on 4chan already don't tip, but someone needs to get the movement trending on reddit/twitter/places where normies reside. Then maybe finally we can end this scourge for good.

>>13547406
>>13547456
>Japan
Japan charges
>Service fee
>Seat fee
>Seasonal fee
>Gaijin fee
>taxes
Oh, but at least you don't have to pay a non mandatory tip.

>>13547406
>All meals non-halal
BASED.

>>13547456
Same. I've lowered my tipping percentage back down to 10% now, but I'm thinking it really is time to stop tipping altogether. Honestly, servers just seemed to be a lot better in the 90s.

>>13546483
Well said - a main reason I don't eat out anymore.
I don't want to get ready and drive and wait and see what the chef pulls out of his ass, get raped on alcohol prices, then get pig roasted by paying an additional 15% for someone to bring my food 50 feet.
I rarely get delivery, but I do give those guys 15%.

>>13546442
>Round up and give 7.5% tip on card
>Slip an extra $20 under the table
I usually do this and I wouldn't be surprised if this guy did too.

I tip everyone, but I tip more if the waiter is white

>>13547442
advanced jewerey

>>13546442

the entitlement... jesus

>>13547554
yep checks out he's based folks

>>13546568
only thousands of people who go to restaurants every single day... but yeah w/e you say

in all my 8 years working in a restaurant, ive only been tipped once and it was for delivering a room service to an italian guy
why did he tip though? did he think australia was america?

>>13547614
Italian Americans usually always tip well.

>tipping
>ever

I wear a dress that shows my firm ass. I "accidently" rub my tits to male shoulder. And bringing food from A -> B sure makes my 20% justified.

>>13547664
I wish I was a woman

>>13547664
>>>/r9k/

Like if it was the persons fault you decided to take some expensive tuitions lmao.

>>13547664
How often are you filling my drinks?

>>13547641
my car battery died on me, and this absolute chad came over and replaced it within 10 minutes, gave him 100 bucks because of it, it's rare but some people do deserve it

>>13546802
It’s how the rich stay rich, cunt

>>13547372
Wage cuck

>>13546442
I went to a Longhorn Steakhouse last week. Waitress was like some edgy indifferent stoner from a late 90's teen movie. Couldn't keep a cup full or be found at all for most of the meal. Always came back smelling like an ashtray. I ordered a salmon, because I'm that faggot that goes to a steakhouse and orders fish sometimes. Food was absolutely top notch. Asked to see one of the line cooks on my way. Gave him a $20 and said the food was great.

Did not leave any money on the table.

>>13546442
spoiled cunt

>>13546442
My waiter can tip on this dick if you catch my drift nigga

>>13546914
>paying someone 15 grand to pour you alcohol

>>13547904
Later that night he gave that 20 to her anyway...so in the end she got her tip an some tip iykwim.

>>13547950
To JayZ it would be pocket change, his net worth is over 1b

>>13547954
Or she went back to get a plate and said "That asshole that ordered the fish didn't tip" and they were like "yeah he did, just not to you."

I don't understand tipping. Why not just pay the worker a proper wage instead of expecting the customer to also pay them? Also why would you tip the person who delivers the food and not the person who makes it?

>>13546879
If the person working there had an IQ of more than 70 they wouldnt be working there, so I'm sure they had a hard time

>>13546610
>there are no such laws, given that employers must pay the difference if the employee does not make at least minimum wage via tips
That's literally what he said retard
Restaurants can pay their workers less than minimum wage if they work hard enough to make more than minimum wage
which defeats the purpose of having said minimum wage

>>13546442
While bitching about a tip not being enough is the worst I think a near 2nd are people that decide their tips, for better or worse, based on rounding up even though they are paying with a card.

I once asked this ebony ugly waiter:wanna 30% tip or suck my dick? She chose the latter.
W28m

>>13546457
>gets paid at least $15 an hour
Depends on what state she works in. Some states allow restaurant owners to pay servers less with the expectation that tips will cover the rest.

>>13546488
Fifteen percent of the pre-tax total is 27 dollars. If she made the experience wonderful, one would expect at least that level of tip.

Averaging 3 tables an hour x 20% of let's say $200 in a 8 hr shift. Equals $960 for bringing food to a table and smile accordingly.

>>13548042
How many waitresses have made your experience wonderful enough to the point where you want to tip 30$

>>13548038
nigger it was a $15 tip

This dumb shit is why I would rather make my own food.

>>13548087
Agreed. There are plenty of mid-level places with the same kind of waitstaff you'd see at Buffalo Wild Wings that have good food but aren't on any kind of fine dining level. Very rarely does service warrant a 20% tip past a $100 check

>>13546442
>eat out several times a week
>make an habit of only tipping once per week
>i leave a great tip that one time, everyone else gets nothing
>waiters expect my free money and i dont get even a little gratitude in return so be it. The one time i tip i get all smiles, everyone else can go fuck themselves

>>13546534
i do feel sorry for delivery guys so i tip them well
a lot of them end up getting run over because they are under pressure to speed and pass red lights, all for minimum wage or less

>>13546442
Someone needs to do something about his tipping bullshit.
I really don't want to waste my time and energy thinking about how much I need to tip someone.

>>13546882
haha imagine yeah

>>13548115
>autitisc shut-in and how he thinks he makes a difference in the word

>>13548115
What if you go back to eat at that same place and don't tip that waiter you tipped the last time

>>13548144
why would i want to make a difference?
i want waitresses to smile t me and giggle when i slap their butts
they dont have to do it but they dont get my money either
>>13548164
its not like the chancesof running into the same waitress are high, also they wouldnt dare mess with my food, thats a massive headache for the owner if they get found out, they are also too busy to bother
you watch too much tv if you expect any of them to chse me to the parking lot or something

>>13548164
>implying I actually go to (((restaurants))) without my balaclava and make-up
wagies have the memory of a gnat

>>13548183
MUH-MUH-MUH-MEGA-AUTISM.

>>13548190
with that attitude no wonder you dont get enough tips to get litle timmy to a daycare
make sure to leave the cars windows rolled down and some water for him while you are working for those tips

If you have to eat out, eat at places that don't really expect tips like fast food, food courts, etc. Restaurants are a fucking scam and you look like a dick if you don't tip. Just learn how to cook your favorite dishes from the restaurant and stay home instead. It works great for dates too because it makes you look like you're reliable.

>>13546591
Are you in Seattle?
Because if you're in fucking Seattle and the server is making $15 then you should goddamn know well enough that isn't enough money to live in Seattle. Chances are if you make $15 an hour serving, cost of living is VERY high around you.

Most states are allowed to only pay the server anywhere from $9 to $3 an hour due to tips because the standard only has to be about $2 an hour in tips.... That's $11 an hour at it's highest.
Also even in Seattle where minimum is $15 an hour, most servers only make $11 due to the $2 an hour in tips, again, only $13 an hour, in Seattle, where average rent is $1500.

I hope you get raped in your fucking throat faggot.

>>13546649
You're lucky if you make even 1k in cash tips a year. Fuck off.

>>13546442
None of you are servers because you're all too socially inept to be in customer service, so you have to cry and be BOH with the rest of the alcoholics, criminals, and junkies. Sorry your life isn't great and I'm making 4k a month FOH while you barely make livable wage wagies.

>>13548258
>>13548262
The entitlement is strong in these posts. If you can't afford where you live, then move out retard.

>>13548276
>>13548273
read the following
I absolutely can, but you're retarded to think anyone can live off $15 an hour in the places that have that as a minimum.... "B-but just MOVE"

>>13546483
This tbqh especially with alcohol. I will tip the exact same per drink if I got Oban or Coors light. Don’t look at me weird when I tip $3 on a $40 bill if you brought me three expensive drinks. Fucking servers.

>>13548262
What?
Lets say you work 250 days a year (that's less than 5 days a week)
You have to be a shitty server or work in a shitty restaurant to only take home $4 in tips a day

>>13548289
As I said, you are lucky to make 1K IN CASH TIPS A YEAR, half the time I only take home about $500 in cash tips a year if that, if that. That is CASH tips, not credit card tips you fucking retard.

>>13548301
Should find a better place to work then.
Place I waited tables at last year would leave me flush with at least 5 $20 bills every night.
Find it hard to believe that you'd only come home with $2 a day from your $500 figure.
But you're either full of shit or too retarded to find a better restaurant.

>>13548262
lol fuck that i saw servers walk out on saturday nights at the restaurant i worked (texas roadhouse) clearing $300 in tips consistently.

servers are the most entitled, whiny babies on the planet

>>13548325
My god you're unbelievably stupid it is actually baffling. I make $150-$350 a night in tips, but it is CREDIT card tips THAT IS MY POINT. Most servers DO NOT make much in cash tips, so that is why they do not report them, and you know what? If the gov comes and gets em one day, fine. I've never reported mine and I won't ever.
>>13548339
Both of you are completely missing my point because you have the reading comprehension of a child. I am saying that servers do not report cash tips because you honestly do not make a lot of them, most of your tips are credit card tips and it is completely reported.
ffs.

>>13548350
just report less retard, that's what everyone does.

also boohoo if you're not making that in cash. take what i give you and stop crying about it, retard

>>13548350
I can see why you're not making money you're actually retarded I even said in my post that the place I worked I got 5 $20 bills a night minimum.
You know what a bill is right? (Here's a hint: its cash)

this thread is not about food or cooking.
this thread does not belong on /ck/.

>>13548357
I'm not crying about it lol, I am more than happy making any cash. My original point was that there isn't really a need to report cash tips because often servers do not make more than $500 a year, which is barely anything, I mean would report $500 in Christmas/gift money? Probably not. If you read what I was replying to, you would understand your argument isn't an argument with me.

>>13548370
As I have already said, MOST servers DO NOT make that kind of money IN CASH, yes absolutely in credit card tips, sure. Some places are like that, where you'll easy make $100-$200/most of your tips in cash, but most places are not like that. That is what I have been saying, that most servers do not make a lot ANNUALLY in cash tips therefore that is why a lot of servers do not report cash tips.
I mean ffs were you reporting your cash tips? What the fuck are you even arguing with me for?
I make 3-4k a month in tips, but they are almost all credit card tips.

>>13546802
I was grabbing coffee from the side station and some FOH were telling me about how some celeb was dropping mad cash on some of our wine bottles.
they asked me
>anon wouldnt you want to be a server for them? youll get mad tips.
I told them why would they strive to be the server of the rich and not the guy who is able to drop 5k on a bottle of wine like it was nothing.
>banned from the side station

thats okay I can steal coffee from the banquet guys

>>13547292
>don’t want to deal with artificially inflated prices due to the most worthless people in the work force demanding more than they are worth
>hurrr how hard you work is what you're worth
I know people who work 10x harder than I do and make half of what I make while I sit on my ass browsing 4chan all day.
It's not the 50's anymore, gramps.

>>13547391
because you're dining in a restaurant instead of opening it in your own home
tipping is dumb, but you're dumb not to tip when the situation requires it

>>13548394
Most servers don't only take $2-$4 in cash tips a day either so quit your bullshit.
>What the fuck are you even arguing with me for?
Mostly because you went on full attack dog and still continue to despite being full of shit.

>>13548425
No you may not take an average of $2 a day, you may take $70 for that day and then not get cash tips again that month. That is what I am fucking saying, I'm not averaging it out in days you absolute fucking mong. I have many server friends, who have worked in the industry for 115 years, and I can GUARANTEE YOU most of them have not made more than $500/$1000 a year in cash tips, not credit card tips.
I have been serving for 4 years at different restaurants, I absolutely do not take home more than 1k a year in cash tips.

As I have already said, sure, it does happen where there are places that make more cash tips than credit cards, but more people pay with credit cards than cash when they're on a night out, it's just how things are now.
I'm sorry that you're so fucking incredibly stupid that you cannot see the math of $500-$1000/annual cash tips other than averaging it out per day, there is no average, some months I make none, some months I make $200 in cash tips.
Overall, credit card tips are the norm.

Idk how the fuck anyone tipped you because you're incredibly inept, maybe they liked your absolute shit personality.

>>13548458
>Idk how the fuck anyone tipped you because you're incredibly inept, maybe they liked your absolute shit personality.
Aw widdle sensitive tardlet that's been working as a waiter for 4 yeas still hasn't figured out how to be nice to his customers and get more cash tips than credit.
I take back what I said you restaurant being shitty you're clearly the problem.

>>13548458
Nobody fucking cares. Get a better job or take your autism somewhere else

>>13546538
>The OP image was just someone making a tip out of rounding up to a number they could pay with 50 or 100 dollar bills.
>the op image clearly shows they paid with a credit card

>>13548038
>15 dollar tip
>probably has at least 3 other tables
>plus about 4-5 dollar minimum wage
bitch is making like 30+ an hour

>>13548276
Ok boomer

>>13548532
>living within your means is boomer culture
kek

None of you stupid assholes should exist until you learn what they learned back in the Gilded Age. You band together for a living wage, or DIE. You people are at the or DIE phase because you're honestly that fucking stupid.

>why are Servers like this?
>why are servers so entitled?
>do servers really think they should get extra compensation for doing their basic job?
>do servers really think their job is hard?

Most servers are women
There. I solved the mystery.

>>13547391
the tipping system is weird and often silly, but it's the system we have in the US. in the case you mentioned, if you're rich enough to spend $1000 on a bottle of wine when you're dining out, you're rich enough to tip well (if the service was great). the waiter or waitress is spending his or her night to serve you, meanwhile you're sitting there sipping a $250 glass of wine. their night fucking sucks compared to yours, but you can make their night if you tip well. so you're either a) the nice rich guy who tips well and who will always get a table/great service/special requests or b) the stiff who comes in and buys expensive shit and doesn't tip well.

This is the same logic as the one that people who borrow money constantly follow.
Meaning that if someone is not exactly short on money, some of that money belongs to you for some strange reason.
Trying to justify your greedy ass by invoking to some wishful "rule" you and your other server friends came up with is just fucking retarded.
Like how does more of my money belong to you the more I spend?
That is pure jealousy and nothing else.

>>13548282
i live in seattle and make minimum wage, get fucked

>>13548599
>you are paying for service and having a "great time™"
>the waiter is at work and THAT FUCKING SUCKS
>therefore, you are having a better time than the waiter, so it would be rude for you not to make that persons night by giving him as much free money as he desires

What the FUCK are you even saying?

>>13548485
yep, that must be it. I'm making 20%> in tips, but because they aren't more often cash tips, I'm a bad server. Hit the nail on the head my friend.

>>13548612
have fun having roommates and or living with your folks for the rest of your life bud

>>13548623
what i'm saying is that 20% is standard in the US and if you don't tip 20% on the food+wine in a fine dining setting where the service and food are world-class, then you are an asshole rich guy, not a cool rich guy, and you will definitely not get to enjoy the perks that the cool rich guy does (such as getting a table at tough times, getting to make special requests, etc.)

>>13548634
What if I told you that you are an asshole for feeling entitled to other peoples money based on rules you invented yourself?
Making promises about putting me on the good boys list doesn't exactly help either, because I'm mainly looking for normal service and food, not having some clercks calling me by my first name or having special priviliges that I only get by licking your asshole.

>>13548625
Nice to see you've finally cooled down
sarcasm suits you more than screeching retard at people.

>>13548661
This.
>B-but my standard 20% standard!
It's supposed to be a gift you little queef. If someone doesn't want to tip or can't tip that much then you can take the rules you wrote for everyone else and shove it up your extremely loose ass lips

>>13548661
listen anon, i'm not a server, never have been one. and i didn't make the rules-- society did. if you're fucking rich enough to spend $1000 on a bottle of wine, you're rich enough to tip 20% to the team of people waiting on hand and foot to serve you.

if you're "just looking for normal service and food", then buying 1k bottles of wine doesn't apply to you, does it?

>>13548672
it's not a gift, the gift is going over 20%. 20% IS the standard in the US, and if you don't tip it when you're clearly rich (buying a thousand-dollar bottle of wine), you're an asshole. if this is your practice, at least have the balls to admit that you're a rich asshole on an anonymous forum

both of you are stupid cunts

>>13548634
I'm curious...
The percent standard for a tip has increased over the years. From "Oh, a tip! cool!" to "10% for good service" to "15% for service" to "20% is the standard, you swine!"

Ignoring the nose dive in expected service, what is the justification for the increase?
I've heard "prices are going up, so the percent increases!" but the cash amount goes up with the price increases, so that's silly...

Is there a reason for it?

>>13548672
>>13548661
I don't know why you both are trying to pretend that tipping 20% is a rule that only that Anon alone has created.
15-20% has always been the norm.
https://www.eater.com/2018/11/28/18112819/tipping-in-america-guide-restaurants-how-much

https://www.businessinsider.com/this-is-how-much-you-should-tip-for-every-service-2012-8

https://www.consumerreports.org/tipping/how-much-to-tip/

If you're foreign or not American, I get it, sure. But most of you are Americans who are just unbelievably greedy cunts who want to scream and ree how "entitled" servers are when you go out to eat, receive a service from a server (water refilled, asking how things are, catering to your specific needs etc) and can't leave $5-$20 because "M-mu-muh morals!" When you're already paying $30-$100 on the damn food.
Tipping isn't just a pretend kindness in America, and you know it, it's a standard. Just like it ISN'T a standard in Europe etc.

>>13546442

>>13548690
Narp. 15% for good service, more for special occasions/above and beyond service.

I've seen lots of asshole thinking 20% is some mandatory amount: if you're a dickhole, you're not getting shit. If you're actively detracting from the dining experience, I'm not adding anything. How is that surprising to so many people?

>>13546584
because servers make bank off of tips.

>>13548700
>receive a service from a server (water refilled, asking how things are, catering to your specific needs etc)
You know if that actually happened most places then I wouldn't mind. But unless its a nice little breakfast place or an upper-scale restaurant you're only going to see your server 4 times at most.

>>13548696
Because 10% on $100 is $10. If you have 10 tables that night you will clear $100, but most places you have to tip out BOH too, so roughly taking home $70-$80 a night, which is a lot in places where the check is ABLE to get to $100>, but a lot of serving jobs won't clear $50> on a table unless it's 4 people or more.

Basically, the cost of living is always rising, so you tip in professions where it is standard so they can afford to live. Is it completely fair? Not always, I mean imagine you work at Subway making $60 in wages vs a sever who is clearing $100 in tips not including minimum wage, sure there is a discrepancy at times... But it is standard in America to tip.

>>13546511
Incredibly based

>>13546442
I want to fuck her avatar

>>13548712
This. When I was a barista a bit over a decade ago, I made $7.77/hour (a couple bucks more than minimum wage. Not terrible for someone with two roommates and no responsibilities). I always brought home more than that in tips.

When I got a "better" job, working at a bank, for $10?

It sucked so much ass. Such a huge pay cut!

>>13548718
Sure and there is definitely a difference going to let's say a ramen house where you have 5 servers in one go and it's a bit crazy, but when you do actually receive the service, you should tip.

>>13548722
You missed my point... let's use made up numbers:
50 years ago, you go out, and spend $25 on dinner. You tip 10%, $2.50.
Now, you go out, and spend $50 on the same meal. You tip 10%, $5.00.

You've tipped, proportionately, the same. But people argue you have to increase the percentage to account for inflation. The great thing about percents is they account for inflation.

I'm all for raising the fuck out of minimum wage. But I think the constant increase in tipping is, at its core, nonsensical.

I tip, because we're in a broken system. I also think we should change the system. But unless you're fucked in the head, no one doing their job even half-assed (who receives tips) wants to change it. Tips kick ass!

>he doesn’t leave negative tips

>>13548724
>her
read the top left of the image

>>13548711
>Narp. 15%.

>>13548740
I see, I've never really thought about it. I mean, even though percentages do account for inflation, they only do so much. I mean getting $5 bucks on a $50 dollar tab? What if that's all you have that night, a couple of $50 tabs and $10 to show? You'd be fucked. I would be fucked, like absolutely fucked and I would have basically lost an entire day of money, even with minimum wage.

You're right, we are in a broken system, and tips do kick ass. Fortunately most Americans are not these Anons, and they absolutely tip that delicious 20%.

I do think servers can be whiney and snobby, but holy christ EVERYONE can be in restaurant work. BOH, "They don't like the food fuck em'" FOH "They don't tip well."
ETC, they will take care of the problem almost always, but they talk shit under their breathe a lot.

>>13548751
The adults are talking and it's past your bedtime. Shoo!

I dont eat out a lot but I feel that the only people that earn their tips are delivery drivers, considering they have to pay for gas and repairs on their vehicle, as well as actually go into some sketchy places to do their job. Waiters have the comfort of a small building to work in while delivery dudes drive around town and in some cases cant even carry a weapon to defend themselves from getting robbed, which isnt a thing waiters have to worry about. If they fuck up an order they cant go back and fix it right away so it has to be right, and if they do go back and fix it they earned well above their pay grade in my eyes.
Cant forget that most delivery dudes want to shoot themselves while the stacies working the tables are numbskulls.

>>13548801
Gas and repairs on a work vehicle are tax deductible, and bumping up your worktime mileage a little is basically untraceable. It's a pretty good way to shave off the cost of a significant personal expense.

>>13548690
>>13548700
Expecting 200$ tip regardless of how much someone spends only makes you an entitled greedy fuck.
Especially when you don’t compain when you get 20$ for the exact same job for someone else, only difference being that they are not spending as much.

>>13548809
Still, to get it fixed and fueled is still time out of their day that they only have to do in excess due to their job. They do more work for me than a server does in my eyes, so they have earned a little more compensation from me.

>>13548837
If you can afford a $100 meal, than you can afford a $20 tip you greedy fuck.
I do not expect $20 on anything below $100. Ever. I expect at least $15 on $100, because that is the standard in America.

You can call me greedy as much as you want, but it is a standard, like driving on the right side of the street. Therefore you're truly the greedy one, by being so indignant about giving away a bit extra.
If you're not American, sure, disregard what I have said.

>>13548846
>save up a lot of money for honeymoon and dinner etc, but am poor otherwise
>how dare he not pay me 2000 dollars on a 200 dollar meal?!

>>13548846
Why should I pay you more because I paid more? You did the same job for the schmucks paying 5 bucks as you did for the supposed big shots paying 100. If you want your tip then earn it, monkey.

>>13546442
As a europoor I need to ask, why the fuck is tipping even a thing?

>>13548860
Boomer era """wealth""" dick waving.

>>13548859
Seriously this.
I tip a barber around $10 if they did a good job.
A job that is a hell of lot more personal and important than someone who poured my water for 30 min. Servers have been getting away with highway robbery because of % of the bill nonsense.

>>13548854
You're retarded, as I already stated it's 15-20%, not more than that. If you tipped me $30 on $200 it would be more than enough. I'm sorry that you're an angry American that doesn't want to follow social standards, but it doesn't change that it is standard.
>>13548859
I am saying you should pay at least 15% unless the service was truly terrible, it's standard, and you know it. Period. Point blank. Sorry that your friends are nonexistent so the only way you can get a kick out of life is withholding money that you know damn well you should give to someone who gave you a service.
Have you ever gotten a hair cut? Did you really like it? Give them a tip. Etc.

>>13548860
Americans couldn't bear to be away from the motherland Europe so the nouveau riche developed their own form of noblesse oblige.

>>13548879
You missed the point of>>13548854
Read it again, and stop pretending to be retarded.

>>13548889
If you can afford a $200 dollar meal, you can afford $30 to tip. That is the point, there is no other point.
It is standard.

I truly hope you go to a resort in Mexico and never tip, I can't wait til they shank you.

>>13548898
Nope, you do not know another person's situation, that's the point. I guess you are actually retarded.
I'm not arguing that tipping isnt standard, and I tip if the server isnt a total shitter, but saying that you are entitled to that specific percentage based on nothing else than
>everyone else does it lol
Then you're a massive fag and I wont tip you.

>>13548879
>>13548898
>Have you ever gotten a hair cut? Did you really like it? Give them a tip. Etc.
are you giving me a service that effects my personal appearance and self-esteem for a few weeks or are you walking food (that you didn't cook) from a counter to a table that anyone with functioning legs (hell, anyone who can keep a steady hand and move in a straight line) can do on their own? Did you have to go through an actual school to get a cosmetology license or did you just apply online and get the job? If you made a tiny fuck up would you ruin someone's day or just make a little mess of eater that you dont bother to clean up? Are you dealing with someone's physical body or are you lazily flopping plates onto a table?
I don't eat out because I dont want a whiny toddler like you to spit in my food because I gave them 5 bucks instead of 10. Eat shit and kill yourself you fucking spoiled brat retard.
Your work is not hard enough to warrant every fucktard who eats where you work to give you an extra 10 bucks because of some autistic "standard."

>>13548914
I think we shouldnt reply anymore, I think they actually are somewhere on the spectrum. Obsessed over
>no it's the standard no it's the standard everyone said it's the standard no it's the standard

>>13548913
Again, you can call me any name in the book. But when it comes right down to it, you're the one in the wrong. Almost everyone DOES do it, in fact, I have never actually met someone who does not tip.
It doesn't matter what your situation is, if you can afford to go out, you can afford to tip. Point blank. If you only tip 10%, you're not following the social standard, and you'll be looked at as a cheapass. Standard wise, 15-20% is the norm, I'm sorry, but it is.
Luckily you could never afford a meal at the restaurant I work at so I never have to worry about you tipping me or not.

>>13548914
You have no idea what you are talking about, it's funny because a lot of arguments from autists like you is always "You're just walking the food over here anyway!" Well, a shitty server might do that, but a good server certainly does a hell of a lot more than that. Serving can be very hard, especially at very nice restaurants, you can have to know up to 100 food items and 100 wines by memory alone, etc. I'm sorry that you've lived at home forever and have never needed to work, but you simply do not actually know what you are talking about.

>>13548925
... Here is just a few examples of it being the standard, that I have already posted

https://www.eater.com/2018/11/28/18112819/tipping-in-america-guide-restaurants-how-much

https://www.businessinsider.com/this-is-how-much-you-should-tip-for-every-service-2012-8

https://www.consumerreports.org/tipping/how-much-to-tip/

Google it, google "how much is standard tipping in america" and you find one article that doesn't say 15-20% for a WAITRESS/WAITER
Find one.

>>13548926
>Serving can be very hard, especially at very nice restaurants, you can have to know up to 100 food items and 100 wines by memory alone, etc
Not the other anons but I will say that yes at a high class restaurant the server does earn their keep.
Things like menu suggestions, knowing where food is sourced from and wine pairings are important skills and information.
But lets get back to reality here, your average restaurant and your average server are not like this.

>>13546488

Quality post.

>>13548934
I'm not arguing that it isnt the standard, he just seems obsessed with it.
>>13548926
Nope, and ad hominem is warranted. If you saved up on starvation wages long enough to treat your SO to dinner at a nice place for once, that doesnt mean you have an extra 20 to spend, just because the server really really wants it.

>>13548926
> can have to know up to 100 food items and 100 wines by memory alone
and the chef can know exactly the same amount and actually have to cook the food you retard. Why do you get the tip? Again, the only tasks that your job requires is to memorize a menu and walk it out.
> you could never afford a meal at the restaurant I work at so I never have to worry about you tipping me or not.
You have to whine about getting a 5% tip vs a 10% tip so, you know, pot calling the kettle black and all that.

>>13548934
>muh status quo
how about you enforce your status quo at a job that doesnt con you out of a minimum wage and make the customer make up for your cheap ass kike boss. If it's like giving a haircut then become a barber lmao it should be no problem, right?

>>13548941
Yeah but at your average restaurant you are only going to be tipping around $5-10 bucks. Like, it's just overall the same thing I am saying
If you can afford to go out, you can afford to tip. Even if it's $40 meal and you only leave $4, that is better than nothing, but it isn't socially standard. 15-20% is.

>>13548951
You do know most servers tip BOH right?
Oh wait you don't because mommy and daddy take care of you.
I'm saying that standard wise, it is 15-20%, if you only tip 5% it makes you an asshole sure. It isn't the standard, literally all I have been saying this entire thread.
>>13548949
>starvation wages
>HONEY LET'S GO OUT INSTEAD OF BUYING FOOD FOR A MONTH
...yeah....ok.

>>13548964
>nogs working retail dont save up 900 bucks for a pair of shoes
Sorry, you just dont know.

>>13548969
ah yes. there it is. The entire argument "Black people spend money irresponsibly and are always poor so therefore I must be right!"

>>13548934
you are one of the biggest fags on this website, almost as bag as wojakposters, and i hope some junkie tips you a fresh load of his radioactive nutbutter. people dont owe you extra money just because you brought them their food no matter how many people have been conditioned into thinking they do. if you get tipped that's just fine and dandy but nobody owes you extra cash, especially the average mooks eating out. If you actually work at an expensive establishment then your entitled yuck mouth faggot ass shouldn't even be getting tipped in the first place

>>13548973
Nah, it's just an example. My parents did this for their anniversary. I guarantee they didnt pay 40 dollars on a 200 dollar meal.

>>13548964
>Oh wait you don't because mommy and daddy take care of you.
says the guy who demands people just give them money because he poured them a glass of water. If you want tips so bad work at a strip club.
You remind me of a hobo who cleans your windows at a stop light and bangs on your window when you don't pay him. If people didn't feel obligated to deal with you and it was the standard to have the ability to refuse the service of a waiter I bet you'd be out of a job in a week.

>>13548973
>You're rich so you must be wrong! Give me money!

This shit makes me glad I live in Japan where I don't have to put up with this bullshit anymore.

>>13548993
Jet? Business man?

>>13546442
>Charity thread.
Fixed the topic of your thread.

>>13546470
No

>>13546519
It was a Goodyear.

>>13548634
What you describing is literally bribing or extortion which is how tipping started in the first place

>>13548846
>it is a standard, like driving on the right side of the street
Oh so if someone doesn’t tip, you call the police and they come and fine your customer?
Also, I was talking about 200$ tip. Which you seem to think you are entitled to.

>>13548846
Tell me this man who waits. Do you tip the guys at McDonald's or KFC when you eat there? Do you tip the guy selling hotdogs on the street?

I literally refuse to eat at restaurants at this point because of shit like this, the entire industry is some weird cringey 1800s anachronism in the 21st century where a bunch of people engage in this alienating activity of cooking random shit for boomers and bougies in the hopes of fleecing them via good will, the whole ordeal is just a bad scene. Entitled servers, entitled diners, tacky garbage everywhere, classism, consoomerism, the ride never ends. Restaurants are peak modernist faggotry. And that's before you get to the hell that is fast food.

Death to restaurants.

>>13546442
$15 is more than what a lot of people make in an hour

what the fuck is she bitching about, entitled whore

>>13546470
Tipping should be banned because you dont pay taxes on tips

>>13549188
Calm down Unabomber

>>13546442
Sure wish someone would pay me 15 bucks to carry a couple plates ten yards.

Shoutout to American restaurant owners who have managed to convince their staff that it's the costumer's fault they don't get paid a real wage.

>>13549182
Of course I tip the hotdog man. He's nice, funny, and I'm pretty sure he makes his own sausage.
The employees at my local McDonald's are always stoned and don't wash their hands

>If you can afford this and that, you can afford to tip this and that.

But you see, the amount I tip doesn't have anything to do with how much money you think I make or how much money you think I can afford to give you.
Tipping and the amount of the said tip depends only on HOW MUCH I THINK YOU DESERVE.
It doesn't matter if my dinner costed 1000$ meanwhile a family of four ate for 100$.
They tip you 20$ and you see that as fair and according to your logic it's only fair that I tip you 200$?
Now, do you think that I view the service that I recived at a 200$ when you have around 3 times less work serving me than you did the family of 4?
The logic behind is so fucking retarded.
If you get 20$ for serving one table, you should be happy regardless of how much the customer spent.

>server "assumes" I wanted to tip him $13 because he figures I'm too drunk and distracted to ask for change
I probably came off as a bit of an ass to the people I was with for laughing about it and getting him to bring me change, but that shit makes me rage. I've been a line cook watching servers stand around bitching while making double my wage, and I work for tips now. I literally never pull scummy shit or imply that I deserve a tip. The amount of money I make over the course of a night is retarded. Both the easiest and highest paying job I've had in my life

>>13546442
Not tipping is an option.
Not paying if the food and service is shit is also an option. (dont come back)
Some restaurants even pool their tip together to be equal, but wtf am i tipping for then?

Fuck restaurants anyway ,i can cook.

>>13546442
Imagine the bitch rubbing her hands together in the back room thinking she is entitled to an almost 40$ tip for this.
What the fuck is wrong with americans?

>>13548742
holy fuck my sides are in orbit. Is this an Australian image?

ITT: cheapskates and poorfags

>>13549300
you bringing the plate from the kitchen to my table isnt worth $10, fuck off

>>13549309
t. cheapskate and/or poorfag

>>13549322
t. entitled leech on society

>>13546442
>Imagine actually tipping.
CLEAN.
IT.
UP.
WAGIE.

>>13549333
>assuming I’ve ever even worked in the food industry
your conjecture doesn’t work here. You are a cheapskate/poorfag though, without a doubt.

>>13549338
>WAH YOU ARE A CHEAPSKATE IF YOU DONT GIVE PEOPLE MORE MONEY THAN THEY DESERVE

waiters can suck it up because they dont have actual employable skills to get a real job

>>13549344
>reddit spacer types in all caps
>thinks a few 10s at most are a big difference
so you’re a seething poorfag. got it.

>>13547478
But my 3.14 3DPD waifus zomg

>>13549349
imagine being so insecure and lacking in happiness that you have to massage your ego by throwing money at people

"im wealthy, im a good person, please smile at me, Im a valued and important customer, I feel good..." *adjusts his ugly diamond encrusted watch and combs hair over his bald spot*

sad!

>>13549358
wow, you really ARE a seething poorfag. cry more

>>13547212
t. Illiterate

>>13549363
lmao did I hit the nail on the head?
people who are -actually wealthy- dont need to show it off or try hard to impress by giving a "fat tip"

you are not wealthy, you are just pretending to be one trying to convince yourself

sad

>>13549374
>all this conjecture
Never said give a “fat tip,” you illiterate moron. I said tip, like 15-20%. Which is, again, a few 10s at most. If that’s an issue, then you truly are a poorfag.

>>13546914
74k total, 11.1k tip - 15% on the nose. You don’t tip on tax, anon.

>>13549396
nigger i didn't get rich by handing out free money willy nilly

>>13549396
entitled millennials dont serve $5 let alone a $10

>>13549300
I'm a little cheap, but I'm not poor. Because I have a real job and don't give money to strangers just because "I can afford it".
All these servers bitching about someone being richer than them are still richer than most people on the planet. Do you think they donate any of their tips to those less fortunate? If you can afford to buy expensive sneakers you can afford to give a few bucks to a homeless guy, right?

>>13547745
that's pretty based. I've been that guy many times and never expect a thing I just know how much it sucks when you just need a fuckin boost. Protip: buy some decently long jumper cables

>>13549336
BASED

ain't no filthy wagecuck telling me how much I should be paying them
I'll give you a one cent tip if I fucking please

>>13548394
Kek this is the gayest cope lie I've ever read on this site lmao, servers earn less than $500/year in cash tips? What?!?? Have you ever left the house ?

>>13548523
Bosses frequently take a massive cut of tips.

>>13549530
I've never heard of that. I've heard waiters having to give a cut to tip the bus boy but never the boss.