/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13538092
after developing a palate for scotch, trying to go back to american whiskey is nigh impossible, everything tastes vaguely of ice cream cone and nothing else

>>13538103
I like the flavor of ice cream cone though

>>13538103
Scotch goes from candy apple to a burnt log bottle to bottle. Shit sucks

>>13538092
You mean bourbon? Yes it is best, too bad you didn’t post any bourbon

No, cognac is.

>Jack Daniel's bad

hombre

>Jack Daniel’s good

It's all the same shit

>>13538144
based

Rum is better

>>13538092
If you want cheap shit then this is the obvious pick. A coupe more and you can get some Rebel Yell which is a little better. You want quality shit then get Woodford Reserve.

>>13538250
Old Crow is cheaper and better.

>>13538250
Pick attached.

>>13538255
It's good for Bailey's but I wouldn't drink it otherwise

>>13538103
>scotch
>good

Back to the highlands, peatnigger

>>13538092
All liquor is objectively bad, vodka is the best because it has no flavor and can be easily masked to achieve quickly and painlessly the soul purpose of drinking in the first place, to get drunk

>>13538092
>Alcohol with wood extract.
I don't see the big deal.

>>13538255
>Pick attached.
Forgot pick

>>13538299
I make vanilla tasting white lightening. Is that what you're shooting for?

>>13538139
Technically, JD is a bourbon. It meets all of the criteria to be classified as a bourbon but they don’t want to market it as such. That’s why they call it “Tennessee whiskey”. It’s not a particularly good bourbon, but that’s what it is.

I'm a noob and have been offered these 2 choices, which should I choose?
Jameson or Jim beam?

>>13538808

One is Irish, one is shitty.

>>13538808
Apples and oranges

>>13538813
>>13538822
Alright, now I'm just as confused, but I guess I'll try the Irish one.

>>13538833
Jim Beam is the shit you make Long Island Ice Tea with. Jameson is an actual whisky. And I haven't made long island ice tea for 25 years.

>>13538155
I like smoke, whether it be mezcal or scotch.
The smokier the booze the better it is to help fill the empty void in my chest.

>>13538103
>nigh impossible

>>13538103
I got into Scotch very recently. I bough six bottles and when they were finished, I drank some Jamison I had. I used to love Jamison, but now it tastes like sweetened water wtf? Will I be forced to spend 40$ minimum for a bottle of whisky from now on? Has anyone who enjoyed scotch ever been able to drink other liquors again?

>>13538861
>>13538155
Actually I do enjoy Mezcal as well. It seems I need smoke.

>>13538908
You need to graduate to Distillers Edition.

>>13538908
>Has anyone who enjoyed scotch ever been able to drink other liquors again?

Yes

>>13538908
peated single malts are my favourites too. and yes i still go for irish whiskies like connemara or even blends like johnny walker double black.
>>13538915
is it worth paying 200$ for that?

>>13538092
Whisky is a just a cheap grain spirit with like no taste before it is aged. Best spirits are spirits made from fruits like cognac, calvados or armagnac.

>>13538915
Is there really a noticeable difference between the 16 and this to someone who hasn't been drinking Scotch for over a decade?

>>13538953
Distillers needs to be tasted just once in your life. I gave it to my mom and she doesn't drink. She said "It raised the hairs on the back of my neck". I was like.. wow.

It's unique and tastes like a Scottish leather library chair with sea coming in the window. I can't even go there. You need to try it.

what am i in for?

>>13538908
I'm jealous; $40 is the minimum for a bottle of bottom shelf booze here.
You probably wont be able to go back to cheaper bottles except as mixers. Though you will be better able to pick out value for money so there are savings to be reclaimed there.
As for drinking other liquors, yes you will be able to. But you'll have to find out which ones are taking their spirits seriously. Even then you'll probably lose some value for money.
For example I've found some very high quality gins, including those that are cask strength and barrel aged. I've had a peated mezcal. I've had a nice over proof rum, as well as some 10ish year old rums that shit on similarly aged Speysides, though you certainly pay for that. I've had several congnacs with interesting cask finishes.

>>13539010
I haven't had that particular bottle, but it's sherry finished. A balanced mix of smoke and fruits is common enough in medium-high end blends, but only in Islay distiller editions do you get that balance without a substantial loss in intensity. You should have no worries being able to notice the difference.
However that price tag is steep. Consider the competition
Talisker's is the cheapest. Laphroaig Select and Ardbeg An Oa are up next, but they use a mix of casks, so they're probably not that fruity. Ardbeg Uigeadail and Laphroaig Lore are almost as expensive as the Lagavulin.

>>13539015
i mean i can always go to a good bar and have a glass of it, which costs way less. i tend to do that in order to find a new whisky. if it tastes that good i get the bottle.

>>13538833
The point is that they're both very different because one is an american bourbon and the other an irish whiskey. Think of pepsi and coke taste wise except I would say the difference is larger but not large enough to draw equivalents to Fanta and Coke. They're both very popular and inexpensive whiskeys. Both are liked by many people but not really loved by many. Mostly you would find people using them as mixers. If you're looking for something to sip neat then taste both and decide for yourself. If you're mixing then just pick the one that makes the more interesting cocktail to your tastes because you're not going to taste much of the spirit especially if you're not familiar with it. My recommendation and favorite is 1 part Jameson, 2 parts ginger ale and a good squeeze of a lime in tall glass with ice.

>>13538838
I've never tried Jim Beam but Jameson is the only whiskey I've ever enjoyed more mixed than neat because I don't like the taste or the smell much. Too metallic or whatever. I assume it's the note that most refer to as "grass clippings" though I've never smelled grass clippings like that.

>>13538983
And bread is just flour, yeast, water and some other cheap basic materials until it's made into a dough and baked. Does that mean bread can't be delicious?

>>13539240
And then you put jam on it the same way whisky fags have to use sheery cask to give it some good flavour. You can still hear them crying because they are not allowed to use paxarette anymore.

Whisky objectively >> Whiskey

Fight me.

>>13538103
>nigh impossible

>>13538250
I like the Famous Grouse as a cheap whiskey.

My favorite is Cragganmore though, that shit's good.

>>13538144
literally this

I prefer white rum and vodka but I'll admit that I'm a chugger not a sipper

>>13539298
Putting jam on a bread would the same as putting coke in whiskey. If your problem is that whiskey is aged in barrels that have been used for other spirits then are you ok with Bourbon which by definition has to be aged in new oak barrels?

>>13539302
Color objectively >> Colour

Fight me.

>>13538092
You haven't tried good baijiu.

>>13538092
>25
Never drank any alcohol in my life, what's the appeal?

>>13539558
taste good feel good

>>13539573
Can be said about any drugs, be more specific.

>>13538144
>not armagnac
Fucking trendies

>>13539558
What's the point of any food items consumed for enjoyment? It tastes good. If you have problems you can drink it because it dulls the senses.

>>13538103
Developing a palate means you're able differentiate and pinpoint flavor notes in all kinds of food and drink. Not, "I eat/drink 'refined' things therefore my taste buds are better." Why do you people do such loser shit, about food of all things to act smug about? If you can't differentiate American whisky, why are you wasting money buying scotch?

>>13539411
American whiskey is totally fine, but i hate the scotch industry. Charging lots of money for basically extreme cheap products made from cheap grain and mostly aging in used barrels. The usage of wet barrels is another thing that pisses me off. Also im asking myself why the limit themself to 100% malt for their premium products and shit on every other grain existing. American whiskey shows that the usage of varient cereals works really well.
I mean nobody really cares for relatively young whiskys aged only in ex bourbon casks. Most interesting and talked about ones are those aged in wine casks or the peated ones.

I'm not even hating scotch itself but the industry and the fan boys. Many of them never even tried a wide variety of some other spirits like cognac, rum, calvados but keep bitching on them, because they never were popular in last years/centuries unlike scotch.

>>13539585
alcohol has flavor, often very delicious
also can be paired with food for amazing results
nowadays i literally avoid some foods unless i can pair them with alcohol (for example sea food with white wine). like i wouldn't get sea food for lunch on a work day, because i can't drink at that time

>>13538908
Scotch is the final boss of alcohol. It's the logical conclusion after progressing through all the other inferior alcohols.
That said, a good high end bourbon can be better than some shitty scotches.
I'd drink Four Roses Single Barrel any day over the garbage that is Glenfiddich 12.

>>13538092
The only good alcohol is moonshine where you can’t taste the alcohol.

>>13538255
I drink a bottle of this a day

Tequila and cognac taste like soap

>>13539626
Wheres tequila on that list?

This is a reminder that the mods caught the Talisker shill having a samefagging conversation with himself to shill Talisker in the last whisky thread:
>>/ck/thread/13490463#p13518664
>>13539157
>Consider the competition. Talisker's is the cheapest.
Nobody talks like this. Fuck off, shill.

>>13540212
Have you ever heard of the saying "there is no such thing as bad publicity"? The obsession you have with Talisker doesn't seem healthy.

>>13540212
This schizo is still here? God damn its time to move on bruh

>>13538092
If you're looking for an alternative to JD you might want to check out Talisker.

>>13539157
Where are you? I can't find good Scotch period a store, I order online. K & L wines is the best price for me because shipping is cheap to California. TheWhiskyEchange has a great selection and good prices, but they want too much for shipping to America.

>>13539189
Do that. It's a risk unless you absolutely love Lagavulin 16. It's like taking that distillation to some weird new level. Regardless, try a dram first. All you need is a tongue full to know.

I cant find springbank 10 anymore around here. I blame reddit fags.

Didn't wanna start a whole thread for this. Just bought this and never had gin before. Is it good to sip straight or should i just buy tonic water?

>>13540751
Buy tonic water

>>13540751
you're probably not gonna like it straight so get some mixers, sprite is good if you're feeling particularly lazy

Campari.

Just gonna leave this here

100 proof captain for me

>>13538144
I agree 100% good brandy and calvados is also acceptable. Whisky is one of my favorites but definitely not the best. It's what I'm drinking today though.

>>13538092
That's not gin.

>>13541198
Cheers m8

>>13540751
Buy fucking tonic water. And a lime. Serve ice cold, lime slice for squeezing. Boom, the simplest and best drink ever created. If you don't like gin, add more tonic then ween yourself off over time

>>13540212
Except it wasn't a guy giving himself advice, it was a guy ignoring my advice that Lagavulin was better. Which I told you about after that guy's post was deleted.
>>>/ck/thread/13490463#p13523088

Pricing is not subjective. Talisker definitely has one of the cheaper distillers editions. It costs literally half of a Lagavulin distillers edition.
And again I recommended a bunch of scotch, not just Talisker.

But now that you're here I will take the opportunity to recommend it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7u-RwhqVxU

>>13540604
Melbourne. We have a couple of good chains, but you'll never find anything too rare.
TheWhiskyEchange doesn't have good prices here once you add on alcohol and sales tax. Also there's a bit of a gotcha when ordering alcohol around here; it's illegal for couriers to leave it at the post office, they have to take it back to the depot and then they recharge you for second delivery.
Which means you either need to be permanently at home, or you need to work for a company that will allow you to deliver booze to work.

>>13540751
Always try every gin straight. Good gins, like good scotch, should be sipped.
However if it is good you can still drink it with a very neutral tonic water. Cascade would be my choice, not that you'll have that.
If it's shit (it is below par) you can drink it with a more flavourful tonic like Capi. Which I just found out is also Australian. Maybe you'll have to add citrus if no bright tonic water can be found.

>>13542187

>>13542459
Is that supposed to be ironic?

>>13538155
its just tequilla

>>13538255
no, Old Crow

>>13539551
Bro cmon

>>13538092

BUD LIGHT BABAAYYYY

>>13539604
I think American whiskies tend to be homogenized because they almost all go into new American oak casks. Especially Bourbon where a new cask is a requirement. I don't hate it but I find it boring.

>>13541212
is gin even good? never tried it but how can pine tree vodka taste good?

>>13538908

Bro, try out some rye whiskey. It's a whole new ballgame from scotch. It's like drinking 80's aquanet and having a dill pickle with a turkey club sandwich.

>>13542676

Throw lycopodium powder into the air and light up a vodka shot. It'll taste great.

>>13542647
no, Old Crow

>>13542688

I watched an old machinist drink himself to death on Dewars.

>>13542676

>is gin even good?

>Go over to my step-brothers house to browse his gigantic wares of whiskey
>has a gin bottle
>The smell is fantastic and floral
>Drink it and realize disgusting it tastes

Talk about deception. I don't like gin, but give it a go.

>>13542676
It tastes like how it smells. There are next to no Gins out there with a complex taste, purely because distilling from juniper gives it a predominant flavor that can't be subtle. I enjoy it from time to time, but god damn does it get grating real quick. I can fully see why a lot of people loathe it.

I drink for the effect, and I can get a good bottle of vodka (finlandia) for $20 a 1.75, jack is fucking twice as much for the same amount.

>>13542706
>>13542676

Try bluecoat gin. I hear good things about it.

>>13538092
all memes aside how is Connor's whiskey ?

>>13538185
You fucking boaster.

You braggart.

You literal big talker.

You absolute lip-flapper, blackguard, blatherskite, gascon, scoundrel, villain, knave, jaw-jacker, gravy-trainer, tall-talker and gas-bag nigger.

Come to me ANY DAMN TIME you like and I PROMISE YOU I will OUT-QUAFF YOU AND ALL YOUR FRUITY FELLOWS.

>>13542801

What's a good mixer for whiskey?

>>13542865
Whisky is for enjoying by itself. $10 handles of vodka are for mixing.

>>13542870
>mixing sub $10 bottles
only makes whatever you mixed worse

>>13538092
Kentuckian here. I still prefer gin.

>>13542905
Non-Kentuckian here, you're wrong. Kentucky is wrong

>>13542891
You would never reliably identify the more expensive vodka when double blind taste testing $10 plastic handles of vodka along side Grey Goose/Belvedere-tier vodkas. Guaranteed.

>>13542924
I drank a $7 bottle a few months ago
It is VERY noticeable.

>>13542908
If Kentucky is wrong then stop drinking our liquor.

>>13542870
oh pull your head out of your ass

>>13539604
american whiskey suffers from being sweet and neutral, when you're not used to the taste of alcohol straight these are good ways to overcome it, once you're accustomed to the taste of alcohol, they all show the same 4 or 5 notes of oak, vanilla, honey, cinnamon, and nuts in slightly different combinations. There are exceptions, but the range of flavors overall pales in comparison to scotch

>>13542950
Expectation bias.

>>13542801
Oh shit, better back off it's the king of whisky!

Thinking of picking up a bottle of pic related, technically a liqueur. What am I in for? And should I get the original or the blueberry?

>>13543344
Dor got pic

Wild turkey 101, knob creek or glenlivet founders reserve
What do i drink to wake up this fine morning?

>>13543384
Not founders that's for sure. Also, where the fuck is it morning?

>>13543384
wild turkey old fashioned. my drink of choice lately.

Price is such a deception. I think I enjoy 101 more than almost any bottle of expensive scotch I've had.

About to wind down the night with a dram of Balvenie carribean cask though.

>>13542865
Depends on the whiskey but generally ginger ale/beer and coke are good. Jack and coke is popular for a reason and Jameson and ginger ale is also very common.

>>13543811
>Depends on the whiskey but generally ginger ale/beer and coke are good.

We don't do that anymore. That's high school kid shit.

You mix whiskey with angostura, sugar, and an orange peel.

Drinking alcohol with coke is just bottom tier alcoholism.

Rum and coke is pretty good if you got cheap rum.
Screwdrivers are also pretty good desu

>>13543404
>Also, where the fuck is it morning?
What the fuck kind of stupid question is that? You realise it's morning somewhere on the planet at all times?

>>13543814
>We don't do that anymore
Fuck you mr. redditspacer, don't tell me what I'm allowed to like. He asked for a mixer. Bitters, sugar and orange peels aren't mixers, they're components for cocktails.

>>13543823
people dont come to /ck/ to be told to mix whiskey and coke.

god bless any of you who didn't figure that out when you were like 15 btw.

>>13542714
>There are next to no Gins out there with a complex taste
Nonsense. Gin necessarily has the most complex taste because it has the most additives. The juniper flavour can be subtle and juniper does not need to be used, at least not in Australia, let alone used in high proportion. Not that juniper has a particularly strong flavour anyway. Especially when compared to the botanicals used.

Anyone drink this shit? my curiosity is getting the better of me.

Met an old man at the liquor store buying some. Asked him how he took it, and he said straight up in a little glass just like intended. Cool dude.

>>13543834
only when I'm wasted in a nightclub ajd/or trying to get a girl drunk

>>13543834
I really like Chartreuse, but rarely drink it. This guy >>13543836 has never had it.

>>13543844
yeah, i don't think so either.
Maybe he thinks it's Midori.

>>13542924
Having drank lots of vodka in college, there is a huge difference between a 10$ bottle and Grey Goose/Belvedere. But vodka can only improve on the 10$ so much, basically the better it is the less flavor it has.

Is Chartreuse worth buying for cocktails? It's an ingredient for only a few old classic drinks and i'm not sure if i should buy a bottle for 30€ just for that. Same question for Benedictine. It's cheaper but still wondering.
Can someone try to describe their taste or something that taste very similar?

>>13539119
Good for the price.

>>13544053
chartreuse is always worth buying. It's a quality shooter

>>13543844
>>13543849
what makes you homosexuals think I haven't tried chartreuse? is the idea of drinking socially so alien to you fags that you have to sound off your faggot horns all over the place?

>>13544084
>chartreuse
>a quality shooter
You've never had Chartreuse.

>>13539332
Is that Conner McDavid?

>>13544105

>>13544105
>>13543844
>if you don't take chartreuse exactly like I do, then you've never had chartreuse
I've never had chartreuse but you sound like an annoying cunt.

>>13544119
He (You) is talking about Midori. Chartreuse is an herbal liqueur, and not something you take shots of in a night club, let alone give to grills to get them drunk. Taking shots of Chartreuse would be like mixing a 16 year old single malt scotch with coke.

>>13544129
gr8 b8 m8

Whiskey is objectively gr8 m8.
However, pic related is an example of how you could expand your horizons

i prefer ciders.

>>13544295
I am really REALLY curious but I don't want to spend so much on a non whiskey or gin selection. Is aged rum really worth the price?

>>13538092
Calvados is best

>>13544716
not that anon, but aged rum can be pretty fantastic. Diplomatico is a pretty easy (and relatively cheap) entry level. Bumbo is good too. Appleton 21 would be like diving straight in to an 18 year scotch

>>13544716
Just give rum a try. It's like the cheapest aged spirit out there behind armagnac so what can go wrong? If you don't like it use it for cocktails and you'll be fine.

>>13540212
Take your pimozide, Jesus Christ dude, not one whisky thread goes by without you shitting it up

>>13544716
Where do you live? I want to know if I should recommend some really good local stuff.

>>13542714
Are you fucking retarded, dude? Go out and get a bottle of Etsu gin and drink it alongside Bombay. If you taste no difference, you might as well cut off your tongue.

>>13543836
>>13544084
>>13544086
Describe the taste of chartreuse.

>>13541222
Cheers 2 you m8

>>13538103
>imagine not being able to enjoy both

My go-to is normally Bulleit rye or Balvenie double wood.

The most exciting liquor I had recently, though, was homemade ţuică. My bf is from Romania and occasionally we hang out with his Romanian friend who is a former basketball player. Because this guy is one of the biggest celebrities Romania has ever known he gets amazing gifts from people wanting to kiss his ass, and this ţuică he got was out of this world. Pic related, the evening started by drinking out of normal shot glasses, but by the end of the night we were just passing around the flask which was traditional wood like this one

>>13545312
>Are you fucking retarded
100% of non-gin drinkers are not retarded, which is a scientific fact.

>>13547057
Imagine giving a shit. It's like pining for your childhood. You leave that shit behind.

What are scotch prices around your area now guys? What were they like last year or 10 years ago? Were there really days of cheap scotches and will we ever see them again?

>>13547567
Generally pretty pricey but I found one liquor store that has insanely good deals on scotch. I only got into it recently so I can't say what prices were like before. These are some average price points for popular scotches near me, I can find some of these anywhere between $10-$20 cheaper in some places.

Balvenie 12: $55
Bunnahabhain 12: $55
Aberlour A'bunadh: $100
Laphroaig 10: $50
Lagavulin 16: $80
Macallan 12: $60
Glendronach 12: $60
Oban 14: $75
Ardbeg 10: $50
Glenmorangie 10: $40
Highland Park 12: $60

Best deal I've gotten so far was a bottle of Glendronach 18 for $130, which is usually sold at about $180.

Want to get into cognac. What is /ck/'s recommendation? Also, what's the best way to drink it, I read that cognac on the rocks is not as sacrilegious as rocks in whisky?

>>13548121
Cognac is shit, do not even bother. Brandy is better.

Then you grow up.

>>13548121
please don't buy hennessy, it's hot trash
best cognac at every price range is hardy
if you can't get your hands on some, Hine is another good choice

>>13548128
Only brandy I've had is St Remy, wasn't terrible, drank some of it neat, but every time I've bought it was either to make eggnog or mulled wine. I want to get into Cognac specifically because it is what my grandfather drank.

>>13548163
I imagined henny was trash because *a certain type of person* tends to drink it. From what I remember, what I have available at the nearby store is Courvoisier, Henny, Remy Martin (not paying that much), Gautier, and Meukow. Was thinking Gautier just because of the price.

>>13538092
Counterpoint : rum is better than whiskey
Checkmate : aged rum is better than rum
I’ll drink bottom tier rum over whiskey any day, but you do you OP, you do you

>>13543344
I enjoyed it. Technically it was my gateway drug into the greater world of whisky.

>>13548275
I've only ever used rum exclusively as a mixer, is there a point to buying aged rum unless you are drinking it neat? If I'm drinking it I usually just drink Sailor Jerry's with eggnog at christmas, or juice or soda other times of the year.

>>13548378
I love even cheap, literal bottom shelf rum slightly watered down so I cant really speak for the snobs, but yeah I mean anything past a certain price point should never be used as a mixer anyhow just on principal alone.

>>13548275
rum is too sweet, whisky is best.

Pilar is good stuff though

>>13547485
>no argument
Come back when you've tried those two gins and not a moment before, so I can talk to you as if you're actually a person, retard.

>>13548544
t. gin cuck

>>13547500
>poorfag reveals his mindset (he's cargo-culting high status by drinking le rich people drink and hating le poor people drink) yet again
I almost feel sorry for you
Almost

>>13548547
>drinks Beefeater at a bar
>pretends all gin is Beefeater and LARPs as knowing his shit
I cordially invite you to kill yourself tastelet

>>13548544
>>13548559
Gin drinkers are THIS pretentious, lmao. Quite literally the IPA lovers of the liquor world.

I cordially invite YOU, to kill yourself.

Lately ive been feeling like bourbon and rye are just...evil somehow in a way that malt and pot still whiskey aren't. It's easy to put down scotch and irish and say that ive had enough. With bourbon and rye i just want to power through it and end up drinking too much. I can't explain it exactly. It just feels worse for the body and mind.

>>13548917
Angry spirits mate. American trees were felled to make those barrels which aged that bourbon. Angry, ANGRY vengeful spirits lurk the forests and plains of the continental US. This land was founded, built, and thrives on genocide and suffering.

No substitute, you can drink it straight from the bottle, mix it with something or even dilute and let it age in a barrel.

>>13538908
>>13538103
>>13538092
I've yet to have a Scotch that's better than this.

I've had Singleton 12 YO, Dewars 12, Bowmore 12, Laphroiag 10, Dalmore 12, but nothing comes close to this masterpiece. They all just taste like piss and burnt wood in comparison to this nectar of the gods. It ain't even my favorite.

>>13542670
>>13543001
Now THIS is shit-racing! All of what both of you just described leads back directly into this guys post
>>13539604

>they all show the same 4 or 5 notes of oak, vanilla, honey, cinnamon, and nuts in slightly different combinations. There are exceptions, but the range of flavors overall pales in comparison to scotch
You're leaving out notes that are typically unique to bourbon, such as molasses, dark brown sugar, peanut, and bursting ripe fresh corn.

There's also the fact that the barrel it's aged in doesn't only affect the flavor, the type of grain used, the combinations of grains, the water used, the air quality during the distillation phase, and the number of times it's distilled all have an effect on the potency, taste, and smell of the whiskey. I've tried over a dozen scotch's, and it's good, it can be great at times, but I mostly prefer Irish, and Bourbon.

>>13539626
And I would drink Buffalo Trace any day over Ardbeg.

>>13538908
>Has anyone who enjoyed scotch ever been able to drink other liquors again?
Yes, most people with refined palettes.

Works better than Rogaine to put hair on your chest and tastes great with monster

>>13548559
Not him, but last time I had Gin, I got a small patch of hives on my cheek that didn't go away for a solid day.

>>13549184
It's ok to like the vanilla waffers of alcohol. You don't need to make up some excuse about how you're drinking anything besides oak bombs differentiated only by their mash.

>his whiskey comes in a cardboard box and doesn't have a picture of an animal on the front
what are you, an assistant manager at a target?

>>13549219
Nice made-up vocab you got there. Let me guess, you took your Christmas money and bought a bottle of Talisker and think you know what you're talking about, right?

>>13538092
True, but Jack Daniels is objectively the worst whisky(/whiskey).

>>13549219
>It's ok to like the vanilla waffers of alcohol

>beats every single scotch you compare it to

>>13549231
Hahaha, no. Jack Daniels is sub-par, but far from the fucking worst.

>>13538092
Here's the finest mother-lode you'll ever set yee eyes upon, matey.

About to grab a bottle of Costco Canadian whiskey, Anybody else have it?

>>13549246
Sierra Leone rofl
I'd happily drink this stuff

>>13549228
You can't hide from the fact bourbons are all similar because they're all finished the same way. Drink more new-make. It's not magic and only very different mashes and distillation processes make an appreciable difference before its trip to the barrel.

>>13549236
I haven't drunk that for years and I can't remember what it tasted like. Pretty typical for Irish/Canadian stuff.

>>13549264
>they're all finished the same way
Retard, finishing is one of the ways in which Bourbon's vary. They have to be aged in the same barrel, finishing doesn't count so long as they are aged for as long as needed in New Oak.

Pretend like you know what you're talking about some more please.

>>13549270
Funny, I'm the same way with the Macallan Double Cask.

>>13549278
>dude there are totally some double cask bourbons so I win
It's not typical and you know it my specious anonymous friend.

posters in this thread have 6 inches of dick total and I'm 3 of them

>>13549293
Yea, okay bud, just remember where scotch gets all its "flavor" from.

>>13549307
From wine casks. It's just a bottled cocktail.

>>13549316
I'm sure you'd love to think so.

>>13549293
>make a dumb comment
>get corrected
>Well I'm still right

Only on 4chan, folks.

>>13538092
It tastes like crap.
Wine is pretty much the only potable alcohol.

>>13549331
>erect strawman
>demolish strawman
>declare victory
It may surprise you when I said all Bourbon tastes the same it doesn't mean literally all bourbons taste literally the same.

>>13538092
evan is better than jack

bad news everyone, I just lost an inch in a Dyson Airblade related incident. looks like we're down to 5

>>13547826
All prices in AUD

Balvenie 12: $104
Bunnahabhain 12: $89
Aberlour A'bunadh: $140
Laphroaig 10: $100
Lagavulin 16: $120
Macallan 12: $120
Glendronach 12: $102
Oban 14: $125
Ardbeg 10: $94
Glenmorangie 10: $68
Highland Park 12: $89

I don't understand why there's so much price variance around the world. Some of them are bang on currency conversion + tax, but some are well under/over that.
A'bunadh, before alcohol tax, is 20% cheaper here.
Macallan 12, before alcohol tax, is 36% more expensive here.

>>13548121
I've been pretty impressed with Martell VSOPs. They change the barrel finishes constantly, but it has yet to be below average.
I've only ever drank it neat, and I don't think I've ever ordered cognac at a bar.

>>13548275
For rum it's all about the top tier 10 year olds.

>>13549231
What about Kentucky Gentleman which is bourbon blended with "spirits from the finest grains"? It's still technically whiskey but what it actually is is 51% bourbon and 49% of what is basically vodka.

>>13549246
Personally I only drink boxed whiskey because I'm a true connoseer

>>13549557
>Kentucky Gentleman which is bourbon blended with "spirits from the finest grains"? It's still technically whiskey but what it actually is is 51% bourbon and 49% of what is basically vodka.
Sounds absolutely atrocious. Fuck American "whiskey".

>>13549589
>Fuck American "whiskey".
Don't be fucking daft. Every type of whiskey has those very bottom of the shelf, vagrant's choice type of rotgut brands. Just because one of them is like that doesn't mean they're all bad.

>>13538092
whiskey tastes great, but the more i drink the worse it tastes to the point i cant down a whole bottle. I prefer rum or gin.

>>13549466
Bumbu Rum is pretty fucking good (both versions) albeit expensive. I'd recommend it.

>>13549656
I bet if you marketed a brand called Vagrants Choice you'd make a mint from hipsters.

>>13549660
Then don't drink a lot at once? If you're sipping whiskey then normally I see people say they spend 30-45 minutes with their couple of ounces or however much they pour.

>>13549666
Would that be an ironic product, where instead of being something actually drunk by vagrants, it would be expensive and really high quality whiskey in a nice stylized glass bottle with a passed out bum on the bottle or would it be actual rotgut in a plastic bottle but with a fancy label and story on the bottle sold to hipsters at a big markup?

>>13549682

Hmm, That's coin toss for me, but the passed out bum hanging over a guard rail with puke on the ground in a stylized embossed line drawing would be perfect on either. Brown natural paper label with gun barrel blue, silver or gold ink.

>>13549009
but why do those spirits lay the curse on their descendants? no one drinks more bourbon per capita than reservation native americans.

>>13549184
not one of the other guys, and I'm glad to see that someone likes bourbon more than scotch. As an american it gives me hope that I'll come back around to bourbon from scotch. I feel like I ought to enjoy bourbon more as it's 'my kin' (and it's cheaper for me because I live here and single malt scotch prices are fucking rocketing up).

I like knob creek, but I genuinely find it less interesting than stagg jr and bookers, and those less so than laphroaig 10. Actually, bookers might be par for me with laphroiag.

Have you had knob creek rye twice barrelled? IMO it's a solid cut above standard knob creek/KC rye. Drinking it alongside scotch it was pleasantly spicy. The moment it touched my tongue, it felt like a cousin of capsaicin rushed through my whole mouth, but not overwhelmingly so.

I think we can agree, however, that both scotch and bourbon are superior to Irish whiskey, which is boring as hell. Sure it's lovely smooth, but it's relatively character-free. Looking at you,
>>13549236

>>13549285
I agree, macallan is gross

>>13549307
ahem

>>13539558
The appeal is being able to talk with people who used to be your friends but have since drifted away and now your only together once every two years and have little in common.
Otherwise it tastes like shit makes you feel like shit, ruins your body and strains your wallet.

>>13548275
Bottom tier rum is always better than bottom whiskey, because of its usage/mixing potential. You don't sip bottom tier rum, simple as that. That's why even Captain Morgan can be enjoyable as an ingredient, even in baking. While sipping it is just awful. Bottom whiskey is just plain bad, its the one step above Jager type of people's drink. Its the best to stay away from them, hell even Jager is better, because bottom whiskey is just bad, and commonly consumed by those who either never had whiskey and its their first or those who are virtue signaling.
>>13549660
Rum mask itself due to sweetness in most cases, while also you can barely feel ethanol, also it depends on the brand. For example Plantation XO doesn't feel as heavy as the same amount of Mount Gay XO. MG is more aggressive, you can feel a kick from it after drinking, but in a good way, also it has a strong wooden smell. PT is smoother, more refined, lighter, more fruity, and it doesn't have that afterkick effect.

>>13551014
>Bottom tier rum is always better than bottom whiskey, because of its usage/mixing potential. You don't sip bottom tier rum, simple as that. That's why even Captain Morgan can be enjoyable as an ingredient, even in baking.
I bought some rum recently (pic related) for baking and tried one sip since I never had it before but... it was really disgusting. I also tried it in a Dark n Stormy but that was also awful. Though I think I might also dislike ginger beer so it wasn't a fair shot. So do I just dislike rum or is your statement above false? I did not have the same reaction from cheap whiskey/brandy/gin. I had a mojito once and remember liking it. I was thinking of making a daiquri but it's not white rum so I'm not sure if it works.

>>13551132
Pott is for grogs and baking/cooking only. Doesn't even goes very well with coke. I not even sure if it's 100% rum. Many other especially the really cheap "Übersee Rums" only contain 10% Rum while the rest ist neutral spirit. Just buy some Havana Club and mix some daiquiris or moquitos with that. Best workhorse for drinks like that.

>>13549378
That's not even what I was referring to, good job.

>>13551132
Again, bottom tier rum by alone tastes like crap, its a fact, there is no other way around it. Buy something what's proven to be good, its pointless to bother with experimenting low tier rums, because there is a fuckhuge chance its just a cough syrup at best and a sugary ethanol with brown food color at worst.
Also its pretty common knowledge that a shit ingredient produces a shit food. Different brands have different tastes, also most of these don't even really qualify as rum, these are products you stay way from, because they have as much to do with the name rum as you being a master distiller. Stay with Captain Morgan in low tier its the king of the worst, when it comes to rum, and at least its Caribbean, so it has some connection to the name rum. With coke+rum coke has a strong enough flavor to smooth out CM's bad parts, like its ethanol.
As for the last different people have different tastes, for example for me Diplomatico is a cough syrup, while others love it. It gets high ratings, shilled up the ass by every seller, it gets awards, yet it was probably the most disappointing thing when it comes to alcohol for me.

>>13550536
>I think we can agree, however, that both scotch and bourbon are superior to Irish whiskey, which is boring as hell. Sure it's lovely smooth, but it's relatively character-free. Looking at you,

Uhhh, no. You've clearly not had very many Irish Whiskey's if that's your opinion on them. Buy a bottle of Connemara, and have it change your view entirely on it. Or Green Spot. Irish Whiskey is typically very light and challenging without relying on the peat to cover-up its lack of profile. Pointing to Redbreast is doing you no favors palette-wise, since everyone knows and agrees Redbreast is one of the very best Whiskey's, particularly for how creamy, smooth, short-biscuit, and peppery it is. Like a bottle full of Christmas.

>>13551301
>Connemara
This is what made me think Irish whiskey is god awful.

>>13551300
>>13551165
Guess I'll try Havana Club when I feel like it / see it on discount. What can I do with it other than daiquris? And are daiquris even better than whiskey sours/gimlets?

>>13538833
Neither is very good. Use as mixers basically.

>>13550536
>not one of the other guys, and I'm glad to see that someone likes bourbon more than scotch. As an american it gives me hope that I'll come back around to bourbon from scotch. I feel like I ought to enjoy bourbon more as it's 'my kin' (and it's cheaper for me because I live here and single malt scotch prices are fucking rocketing up).
It's easy, just figure out what you like and drink that without having all the pretense of having a "refined palette". I drink what I'm in the mood for, which more often than not, tends to be Bourbon.

>>13550615
t. Has never had alcohol before. I prefer to drink alone. The taste of alcohol scientifically has a wide range of flavors.
https://scotchwhisky.com/magazine/features/9549/the-science-of-tasting-whisky/

https://www.grapesandgrains.org/2017/05/the-influence-of-casks-and-science-of-whisky-aging.html

In the most straight forward and simplest of explanations, the tannin's from the barrel bind to the alcohol, pulling it from the barrel as it ages. Of course there's much more involved in the process of shaping the flavor profile of the alcohol which can change during any step of production.

>>13551304
It should be good for you to know that the vast majority of Irish Whiskey isn't peated then.

Is something like obstbrand a thing in the US? It's a spirit (30-40%) that is made with fruits or like hazelnut. Important to note, it is not a liqueur / sugary at all.

I've never seen it talked about on English sites.

>>13551345
>oooo you don't know the vodka has wood blood in it its so based
It still tastes like alcohol which tastes shitty.

>>13551320
Daiquiris just taste like summer. Lightest of all sours imo. Also very refreshing for a cocktail. Hemingway Daiquiri is even better but you'll need maraschino liqueur for that. Many other drinks containing only light rum also demand some other uncommon ingredients. Just search for some recipes. Most rum cocktails call for aged rum though. Just buy some Appleton, Plantation or other relatively cheap and easy to come by rums and experiment with those.

>>13551360
>oooo, I created a strawman because I'm a retard who can't into science and facts
You're still a dipshit who's arguing from a strawman.

>>13551373
>nooo alcohol doesnt taste like alcohol I'm super special and you're not! You have a stupid tongue!
Ok baby dick

>>13551382
>reeee, stop enjoying what I don't like
Okay mangina soiboi

I live in middle of nowhere so I only have access to cheap popular stuff. Already tried JW Black, and I'm thinking of something different next, what's better, Cardhu 12 or Chivas 12?

>>13551395
Pathetic cope, alchie.

>>13551413
What's pathetic is that dicklet-projecting ass is still here.

>>13551421
your dicklet projecting ass*

>>13538092
Vodka is objectively the best alcohol. I don’t like it outside of Caesars and spiked lemonade, and I do love tequila and whiskey way better than I like vodka, but my personal opinion is irrelevant to the fact that vodka is the best alcohol.

>>13551360
>oooo you don't know the vodka has wood blood in it its so based
Vodka isn't aged, retard

>>13551360
>Yea dude, BTFO those normie drinkers! You should totally come on down to my studio apartment. It’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything. We can crack open a nice, Root Beer or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on Adult Swim. And dude, dude, DUDE, we gotta go down to the karaoke arcade. Listen here right, it’s an ARCADE where us ADULTS who do adulting can go and KARAOKE. BUT!!! It’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome video games without some dumb kids bothering us. Speaking of which, Meagan and I have decided to tie the knot, literally, we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital. That way we can save money to spend more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. I’m fuckin jacked man. I’m gonna slam this Root Beer and open another one.

>the state of this fucking thread
can you retards take your slapfight somewhere else?

>>13551482
Other anon scared him off looks like.

For me it’s Hennessy

>>13551499
nigger

>>13551454
Woof
Why don't you whine about it huh?

>>13538092
>>>/reddit/

Just got this. I really like Glendronach and heard a lot of back and forth in these threads about the two. Can't wait to give it a taste later

>>13549246
>Best before
Fucking how?

>>13552012
Probably the best before date for the canister. It's when the "whiskey" will have dissolved the plastic and will start to leak out.

>>13538255
>>13542583
old crow is for normal times, evan williams is for when I have money
jim beam is for fancy
rate my taste

Absinthe would like a word with you

>>13543814
>bottom tier alcoholism
fuck you for presuming to be anything better with your high shelf spirits. Cant be down to earth if you're reaching towards heaven for a drink

>>13549682
>>13549666
a)you're a fag for not realizing the simpsons already had a blended scotch whiskey called vagrants choice as a joke, from when smithers thought he shot mr burns
b)there's this
c)why is this the only apple whiskey that's 80 proof and doesn't taste like melted down candy?

Alcohol isn't about the drinking, it is about the drunkenness. I do not understand the obsession with pretending that this foul tasting shit is superior to that other foul tasting shit because it sucks in a more complex way.

All alcohol sucks and is only made tasty by totally masking the alcohol taste such as in a whiskey sour. I see you consciously controlling your stupid face when sipping your neat horseshit and pretending it is a revelation.

>>13552583
t. hasn't tried rum

>>13552653
>t. hasn't tried rum

Of course I have. Then I immediately did what every other rum drinker in the world does and added Coke so that I could enjoy it.

>>13552583
aw youre so special arent you?
we're just sheep pretending we like the taste of liqour huh? yeah? pee pee poo poo?

>>13552669
t. hasn't tried good rum
also I think you are mistaking "liking" the taste of certain liquor with "being able to tolerate it the most and associating it with the drunkeness so it becomes somehow likable"
i would certainly not drink rum even it wasn't 40% alcohol, but I really do enjoy drinking it because it feels ceremonious

>>13552670
>we're just sheep pretending we like the taste of liqour huh?

Yes, because of the social pressure and status signalling.

>>13552680
uh huh
maybe one day when youre out of high school youll understand people can have differing tastes than you

>>13552690
I'm sorry that you don't understand the inner workings of your brain. I hope you have perfected your "I'm totally enjoying this and not making a disgust face at all" face.

>>13552690
Ignore the fag. Literally the same fundie that feels the need to post a bunch of "stop enjoying things" in every and all threads involving any sort of alcoholic beverage

>>13552716

If I wasn't right I wouldn't be getting such a haul of seethe and cope.

>>13552707
>>13552725
you entered a thread to argue against the basis of the thread
nice cringe bro
>>13552716
it's funny
even my friend who doesn't drink liquor and doesn't drink casually, and when he does its cider and white claws, he understands the appeal of liquor and flavor.

>>13538092
Brandy=Whisk(e)y>>Aged Rum>tequlia>spiced rum>good gin>>white rum=vodka>>bad gin

>>13552583
>All alcohol sucks and is only made tasty by totally masking the alcohol taste
You're either 15 years old or a girl.
Also, making faces doesn't necessarily mean it tastes bad, just that it's strong. Same thing as eating something with lots of pepper in it.

Anyone ever tried this? I like stouts and i like Jameson so I imagine it's up my alley.

>>13540751
make a Moscow mule but with gin instead

>>13538092
It's actually Rum but you can't be right all the time

>>13553144
It’s pretty good, slight taste difference but it’s definitely there

>>13551759
Nothing like Glendronach, but amazing in it's own right. I'm hard pressed to find a preference between the two.

Whisky is such a fun hobby

>>13553574
I don't understand the Glendronach hype. It's expensive and not that fruity.
I've got a Glenmorangie Quinta Ruben and Lassanta here and both show more sherry/port influence and oak character at a lower price.
When it comes to exclusively sherry matured whiskey I've only found A'bunadh and Glenrothes to actually pack more of a sherry punch than well finished stuff. And I think the former has more to do with alcohol content.

>>13552583
>I see you consciously controlling your stupid face when sipping your neat horseshit and pretending it is a revelation.

No you don't, because I don't drink in public fag, I drink alone in my own house, because it's relaxing and tastes good.

Cope more, drunk-cuck.

>>13538137
Ding ding ding

>>13552583
I don't even know where to begin with this seething cope post. You're just so mad that you're pleb-filtered by nature that you lash out irrationally on a stamp-collecting picture forum.

First off, people make faces all the time when they eat anything that's spicy, sour, salty, or bitter, so that's irrelevant.

Secondly, no, you don't see me make any faces, because I don't drink in public, fag. I drink in the comfort of my own home because it's relaxing, smooth, and nice-tasting, (and cheaper) which completely blows away your "stature" and "pretentious" arguments.

Got any more brain busters for us, kid?

The best spirit I've ever had was a barrel-aged gin from a small distillery in WV. Some Frenchies later bought out the place and told em to start making bourbon because it was more American. Now they don't make the gin anymore. Perhaps I'm mentally over-rating it since I can't access it anymore, but damn that shit was good.

Do you guys know anybody (accessible) that does this? It's slim pickings, it seems.

>>13554057
let him believe we're pretending. scotch production doesn't scale well, hence the introduction of NAS bottlings. Fuck that guy, keep prices lower for us.

>>13551301
>Connemara
>Green Spot

I was just at my liquor store and saw that they had these bottles. What do they taste like? I will try them.

>>13554122
Connemara is a love it or hate it, Green Spot is genuinely upper-echelon. Connemara has smokey peat flavor and typical short-bread cookie with some flowery citrus, while Green Spot is more baked apple and herbaly tea.

Just tried laphroaig 10 tonight. For reference the only other scotch I've tried was balvenie 12 doublewood. Simply amazing!

>>13554162
It's my favorite whisky to enjoy while my wife leaves me

>>13538103
Everything outside of Kentucky Straight Bourbon is ass (minus a few exceptions). Only stick to this and you'll be fine. Jack Daniels is disgusting btw.

t. bourbon lover

Hey, lot of people in this thread! Anyone have any BLANTON'S? I saw it on this TV show I watch and now I really wanna try a bottle, so do you have any BLANTON'S? The main character is a pretty tough guy, and he likes to drink BLANTON'S, it must be good! The bottle looks pretty cool, I'd love to show it off to my coworkers when they come over, got any of that BLANTON'S? There's a horse on the cork of the BLANTON'S bottle! No? You don't have any BLANTON'S? Well, that's alright, I'll just come back tomorrow and ask again haha!

>>13554122
Connemara tastes like birthday candles.

>>13554758
Blanton's isn't bad. Very buttery. They need to cut that naming shit out though.
Blanton's Original Private Reserve Single Barrel Bourbon 700mL is the good one, not Blanton's Single Barrel Special Reserve Kentucky Straight Bourbon 700mL.

Evan Williams is the best

>>13555188
Which one?

>>13555234
The black label, most known version.
They sell other shit "bottled in bond" and other memes but it's not worth the money

>>13555234

I drink Jameson and I like it

I like Irish best, then rye, then bourbon. Hate peated. Those that I've sampled and enjoyed include tullamore dew, Jameson, bulleit rye, bulleit Bourbon, four roses, few

What bottle do I buy next under 50

>>13543818
t. college student

>>13555442
laphroaig 10. grow some balls and earn your manhood already.

but really, spend $30 more and get stagg jr.

>>13555442
Redbreast 12 is a good irish that usually comes highly recommended. Perhaps some of the bourbons that are generally thought to be spicier like Woodford Reserve or stronger like Wild Turkey 101 or maybe Knob creek though those might not be as spicy as you want.

>>13554758
I remember you bitching about this in a previous thread.

>>13555779
Nah, first time posting, but it's good to know that consoomers hunting meme bourbon to extinction is a universal annoyance.

I like Rum because I can pretend I'm a pirate when I drink it

>>13538103
you dont like ice cream cones?

Just opened a bottle of Bulleit Bourbon and gotta say it's pretty good. I love how it smells especially.

>>13539586
oof, histamines

>>13539586
>Grays Sports armagnac

>>13538092
Beer ... mmm ... whisky is to strong for me beer is just perfect :D

>>13557213
I personally can't stand beer, but sounds like you got something to love, good times!

>>13538092
Rum
>made from sugar so it tastes good
>easy to drink
>entertainment of deserted islands for centuries

>>13557233
rum is upset tummy and headache city for me tbqhdesu

>>13555442
bushmills black
george dickle rye

>>13538092
Once you drink it enough you start to either like scotch(see >>13538103) or hate it. Both ways you end up not liking whiskey

>>13538808
They’re both bad, one makes you look like you tell everyone you’re Irish because your great great great grandfather was and the other makes you look like you did a keg stand once and won’t stop telling people

>>13539119
Something

>>13539411
Putting cocaine in whiskey, the first reasonable suggestion in this thread

>>13539558
It numbs the pain of bein

>>13558737
>Once you drink it enough you start to either like scotch(see >>13538103) or hate it. Both ways you end up not liking whiskey
Scotch is a type of whiskey, m8.

Got so more laphroaig and some red boobies. This redbreast takes like candy and short bread cookies. Freaking love it as much as my rubber tire/campfire laphraoig.

>>13538092
>not drinking the best type of alcohol named scotch
>not drinking Johnny Walker Blue Label
>drinking non blended scotch
Disgraceful

The whole gang

>>13559165
Impressive. Very nice.

>>13559208

Ty.

>>13538092

I dunno my girlfriend is pushing me towards rum. I like me some whiskey but rum has this....mouthfeel to it

Mama, take this badge off of me
I can't use it anymore
It's gettin' dark, too dark to see
I feel I'm knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm9coqlk8fY

>>13559602
How are bourbon bottles so nice looking? Feel like they're definitely the best followed by some Japanese whiskey bottles.

>>13559165
what's that big ardbeg box in back?

>>13559910
>that gimmicky marketing abomination
>nice looking

Pic related is top-tier label/bottle in all categories: classy, cool, visual aesthetic. I like the flavor of other scotches more, but holy fuck the oval just does it for me.

>>13560235

Ardbeg campfire gift set. I bought it before christmas because it was $10 cheaper than just a bottle of Ardbeg. Now I got two nice little cups.

>>13538803
I work in the industry. Tennessee whiskey is its own thing, very similar to bourbon but slightly stricter requirements