/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13539580
beer is gross

yeah it's almost like to make a lot of good things you need to keep experimenting instead of just doing what your grandma who didn't own a fridge did

>>13539584

Ok zoomer

>>13539607
>implying zoomers aren’t the ones obsessed with IPAs

>>13539613

Are IPAs still a thing?

>>13539580
Europe is in its mid-life crisis. They lost their empires and most of their global relevance after WW2 and especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and they can't cope with the idea that they're no longer the example the world goes in awe of.

Really this is the essential angst of the EU too: it exists to make Europe relevant, but the partners involved can't stand sharing the spotlight with each other and just want to use it as a stepstool to promote their own magnificence.

>>13539580
>Wisconsin awards itself World Champion of Cheese
I award myself "smartest handsomest boy in the universe"

Please congratulate me

>>13539613
Zoomer cusp here, nobody my age drinks ipas

>>13539580
Ex-Euro living in America now.
The problem is that while those world-class cheeses do exist, they're rare as fuck and unless you happen to be lucky enough to live near where they are produced, or near a major metropolitain center that has a speciality cheese shop, you will never find them. They are sufficiently rare that they might as not exist.

Look at the normal cheese that most supermarkets sell and that most customers buy any it is indeed garbage. That's what people are judging by: the standard that most people eat.

I do agree that there's some fucking amazing cheese here: Cato Corner Hooligan, Humbolt Fog, anything by Mystic, Jasper Hill Winnemere, etc....fucking god tier. I just wish the supermarkets would stock it so I wouldn't have to mail-order from places like Murrays.

>>13539671
Notice how all of those are from the coasts and sell under their own distinct name. The people screeching about muh judgment of paris for cheese are from Wisconsin and they unironically believe their sargento counterfeit yurocrap is actually good and if you question them they'll start spamming a folder full of saved maps showing that germans immigrated to wisconsin starting in 1851 as if that matters

>>13539688
Why would anyone care what the French think about cheese? They're not even the best in Europe at that. Shit, they're so bad at wine now they chimp out and overturn Spanish wine deliveries because they're cheaper AND better.

>Any other country wins cheese award
>*Tumbleweeds*

>America wins (first) cheese award
>FUCKIN YUROPOORS, YUROP CANNOT INTO CHEESE, AMERICA #1, USA USA USA USA USA

It's not that we don't like you or your cheese, it's just that every pedestrian achievement you make turns into a fucking ticker tape parade. But then you're a young country, so like a toddler, you think every poop you take needs good-boy points and a trip to McDonalds.

Well done. You've made good cheese. We really are all absolutely blown away by this magnificent feat of ingenuity.

>>13539713
seething

>>13539709
Because it's cultural to them, Frances wine and cheese are ancient traditions.

Same way Americans weep when someone drops a Big Mac, it's important to them on a very deep, almost genetic level.

>>13539688
>starting in 1851
Who exactly do you think settled that area after the French left?

>>13539709
You apparently care a lot, as demonstrated by your chimping out right here in this thread.
>>13539735
Why exactly do you think that makes your counterfeit cheese something to be proud of? Maybe send some spies to the east or west coast and ask one of us how to make good cheese your overwhelming nationalism forbids you to wonder how they do things in europe.

>>13539750
I don't give a fuck about the cheese. I'm just saying, you clearly have very little understanding of the history of Europe-to-America migratory patterns. Read a book.

>>13539750
>ha ha u mad

>Go to Lidl
>great wine
>good chocolate
>fresh local meat and goods
>overall quality is pretty ok

Is it the same in America

>>13539757
>I'm not here to talk about food and cooking, I'm only here to sperg about muh 23 and me
Ok, great contribution

>>13539821
I'm not sure what knowing about well documented migrations has to do with getting your genome sequenced. If you don't know what you're talking about, maybe don't talk about it.

OP how ass lasted are your that literally warp your reality around the fact that eauropean must hate USA for some readons?
Every country on earth, even the youngest ones, are bound to have some pretty fucking good foods. Every one. The only problem I had when I was in America was actually finding them, but not because there's none, but because for some reason or another they're not we distributed.

>>13539842
Keep working on those English lessons, little guy.

>>13539580
this post is a perfect example of Americans' autistic negative liberty

>>13539836
>If you don't know what you're talking about, maybe don't talk about it.
I'll take unintentional humor for $100 alex

>>13539856
hes right tho and you're a moron

>>13540003
I've yet to comment on anything I'm not knowledgeable about in this thread. Are you a professional idiot, or a really gifted amateur?

>>13540008
>ass lasted
>eauropean
>readons
>they're not we distributed
Sure, I'm the moron. kek

>>13540038
No one asked for your 23 and me results, spergo. The discussion is cheese, specifically why you think a map of "German haplogroups" means your counterfeit cheese is something to be proud of

>>13540056
I'm not talking about genetics. Why do you keep bringing it up? You seem obsessed with it.

>>13540062
Because it's relevant to the discussion. Just not in the way you're hoping it is.

>>13539580
Basically we've been shown how poor and fat your lower class is and the shit they chose to eat, to belittle the struggle of our own lower class and the shit they chose to eat.

>>13540075
It's not relevant at all. German immigrants were historically the settlers of the Midwest, and it started happening before the mid-1800s. I really do not give a shit about anything else in this thread.

>>13539602
Italiani sono furiosi

>>13540082
>I have no idea what's being talked about but I insist on trying to force my way into the thread anyway

>>13539842

I'm not the one that posts pictures of processed cheese slices 20x a day with the caption DO AMERICANS REALLY.

>>13539671
This isn't true. I live in a small town of 2000 people in the boonies and my grocer carries amazing cheeses from all over the world

>>13539671
You can find Humbolt Fog in any grocery store.

>>13539671
Wow almost like america is way larger than europe

>>13539713
So your hundreds of year old traditions methods and techniques got absolutely btfo by the new kid on the block?

>>13540306
It's not, actually. They're more densely populated though, and ignore their cheese and food deserts when talking shit. There are regions that exist off of mostly farmer's cheese (like that cheap shit at the grocer), eggs, and bread.

>>13539580
Are those the same world-class and award winning cheeses that are judged by American judges?

>>13539671
>they're rare as fuck

No they're not. I can drive to a fancier white neighboorhood in 5 minutes and get it.

>>13539797
Yup, theres a lidl in my suburb and the things they carry are impeccable in quality and price.

>>13540482
>There are regions that exist off of mostly farmer's cheese (like that cheap shit at the grocer), eggs, and bread.

Why the fuck would I, an Englishman, give a shit what some gopnik in Ukraine eats?

>>13540594
So you're Europe when it's convenient, and a single country when convenient?

You guys are adorable.

>>13539580
You may have but it's 5 times the price
that Oregon cheese that won an award is 45$/lbs which is more than 100$ per kilo.

>>13539709
Because France is the cheese and wine country and has the largest variety of both. I get Bourgogne wine for the price Americans get Franzia.
The fight for best wine is stupid since they're always unaffordable so the real marker is how cheap is decent to good stuff. French cheese and wine start being excellent at a pretty low price, and it's the same to some extent for Spain and Italy.

>>13540689

I mean I can go to any liquor store or supermarket in my state and be presented with a large selection of wines for $10 or so, most of which are quite good. How cheap are you talking?

>>13540746
6-7€ for an everyday Bourgogne, not a Gevrey-Chambertain but a Passetougrain or a Côteau-Bourguignon

>>13540906
Speak American, this is America

>>13540957
Does not understand the concept of the WORLD WIDE web.

>>13541059
Because we invented it and you're just beggars attached to it

>>13541064
Who is Tim Berners-Lee?

>>13539659
Wisconsin also sucks mega dick at everything else. It's a cold shithole with a population density slightly above Montana. Not even the wilderness is interesting, it's all flat as shit.

>>13540957
Is American a language or an accent?

>>13540957
Not happy with stealing foods from other countries and calling them your own, you're now trying to steal the ENGLISH language.

>>13540906

Ok I don't know what that means but I'm assuming those are quite good wines, so good on you. Similar price point however. We might not have that for that price but you can certainly get better than Franzia. The problem is people don't know/care. My MIL is second generation Italian and loaded and buys yellowtail and barefoot.

>>13541207
That's the problem with 2nd generations. The standards start dropping.

>>13539713
It's not even as if they are the first outside of Europe to win, Canada wins/ places a lot of the time and even made a cute little short about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RSpfFIEzAA

>>13541271
Is that FRENCH or ENGLISH Canadian? Notice the European link? And we don't rely on European judges.

>>13539580
why even make a thread about yuros? who gives a shit.

>>13541344
The rest of the world doesn't give a shit about America, so why not?

They hate us cos they ain't us

>>13541360

Judging by the number and frequency of threads about America on this board alone posted by yuros I'd argue otherwise

I buy Walmart cheese regularly until they changed the recipe and made it softer. The other day while in Walmart I looked at the ingredient list and found that it contained 0 percent of vitamin D which is shocking because I thought all cheese made with milk had vitamin D. I then looked at Sargentos it only had 0.2 percent of vitamin D. I finally bought cheese at Aldi's which had 20 percent Vitamin D.

>>13541369
You seem to confuse bewilderment with obsession.

>>13541390
Or just walk out in the sunshine.

>>13541191
It may as well be called American now because we rule the world and your little island is of no significance any longer.

>>13541394
it seems here bewilderment turns into obsession.

>>13541410
Who is the leader of Canada, Mexiico, Brazil, Chile, England, Germany, France, Italy, etc. You're living in a make-believe bubble.

>>13541418
That's because you can't give coherent explanations.

>>13541431
Why would I bother to learn the names of the governors of the Provinces? As long as you wag your tails when greeted and come when called, you can reside undisturbed on the edges of the civilized world.

>>13541506
Provinces? Countries? You don't know or comprehend the difference? American education.

>>13541506
>you can reside undisturbed on the edges of the civilized world.
Where do you think Americans came from?

>>13541431
>Trudeau
>Some cuckold to the cartels
>A chimpanzee
>An orangutan
>Irrelevant
>Merkel
>That fucking fag who married the woman who molested him as a kid
>Irrelevant

Really they're ALL irrelevant but you absorb some via mitosis

>>13539580
>eurocucks

>>13541963
So other people run other countries. Thanks for the confirmation.

>>13539659
>I award myself "smartest handsomest boy in the universe"
>boy
this little fuk boi doesn't even consider himself a man

>>13540108
nice imgur image, redditor

>>13542057
This is what sóy boys actually believe.

>>13539580
Americans still seething lmao.. O B E S E D

>>13541573
Here he is in his natural habitat, the Europoor who cannot comprehend sarcasm and thus gets defensive and pretends what he read wasn't just a joke

>>13543530
Cope

mmm borgers

>>13541431
>who is the leader of all these totally irrelevant countries?

what are the capitals of all 50 states, many of which have larger economies than several of those countries you mentioned

who are their governors? who is one governor?

>>13543584
>I'll answer you with a question ehehehe

>>13543807
Yeah, we ask the questions.

>>13539659

So it's okay that the French rewards themselves? I love this euopoor cope. Not sure why we even bother talking to these people. They can't afford cars, AC, big TVs, major appliances, or homes. They literally have to rent those things. They live like US niggers.

>>13539580
That mat is making me angry. That's something baby moses floats down the river on. Not for eating cheese on.

>>13540266
You should thank him

didn't an American cheese get voted best in the world for only the first time last year
that might be why

>>13539671
Fussy fucking Yuroshits.
>Oh no! I need to mail order some cheese because I decided to live rural!
Reduce the population of Europe by half, then see how things compare. Better yet, just go back there and be more content.

>>13543903
>>13540508

>>13539580
>World class
>Ameripiggy
HahahahhahahaHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>13543853
>French
Not 51% mystery meat
>Muttoifs
51% mystery meat

>>13543584
>he thinks Wisconsin has an economy worth mentioning
Lol. Only reason your governor might register is his having been fleeced by hucksters promising a high tech factory. Poor simple farmers can’t even farm as effectively as coasties

>>13543853
Enjoy your partially hydrogenated dairy fat lardass

>>13539580
because they are snobs who think that just because we are a new country with shorter history that nothing of value will come out of here
luckily arabs are replacing them and they wont be around any more to bitch

>>13544125

Cope harder

>>13544602
It's not the shorter history it's the origins : Anglos.
That and Germans/scandinavian lead to an hyper industrialisation of food leading to McBurger, Folgers, iron-enriched bread, malk, Bud light, hormone chicken

>>13544659
So? Just because a country mass produces crap for cheap for the poor doesn't mean they can't make top quality versions of the stuff for the rich.

>>13544673
You're missing the point

>>13539580
While the majority of the population would consume instant Mac and cheese and a Twinkie bar and consider it a complete well rounded meal after washing it down with a bottle of mountain dew.

>>13539618
not really , sours overtook them like 6+ years ago

>>13544592

Enjoy living in a 3rd world shithole and dying in the summer. lmao

>>13544693

Or if in the UK, a pizza box full of chips topped with deep fried sausages and kebab meat washed down with frosty jack.

See I can do it too.

>>13544868
you're literally grasping at straws, enjoy being shot

>>13539580
it's just banter. like /k/ tells me i can't own guns because i'm european yet i own better guns than most of /k/.

>>13539580
I am a euro, and lately the "everything from america sucks" attitude of people around me really started to annoy me.
They think all american food culture is, is those instagram videos, where they wrap stuff in bacon 20 times and deep fry it.
I used to think like that, but by now I have learned more about the American food culture and give it as much respect as any other.

It mostly comes from a place of ignorance and cliche. And also the fact that some people in America legitimately are that trashy. The "bigger is always better mentality" vs the "better is better" mentality.

I always rage at people sperging out about American pizza and being all Italiaboo, but then buy a greasy cheese disc from their local indian/kebab shop.

>>13539671
>humbolt fog

that's good taste right there

>>13544918

Lol guns are designed to kill people. Summer weather shouldn't kill people... that is unless you live in a poor country.

>>13539584
It's not though. It's divine

>>13539671
That's a fair point. When I am in Europe I am always impressed at the quality of common food. As in you can stumble ass backwards into any shop or market and consistently find good ingredients. People are in a rabble over your post because "dude just go to a specialty market" but that's your entire point, you don't have to go to a specialty market or even a specialty section of a regular grocery to find acceptable quality cheeses, produce, etc in ~most~ of Europe.

>>13544941
You the guy with the fn collection? Post guns faggot.

>>13544979
t. lives in a country where half a state has burned down due to summer weather

>>13544979
chat shit get banged

>>13539618
Yeah but they're consumed by older people

>>13545152
Only a handful of areas are third world tier, and the worst are blue states. Whod have thought

>>13545254
blue states like alabama, missouri, tennessee, mississippi...I've seen it

>>13539580
>Europeans have quality cheeses like Brie, Parmeggiano, Gruyere, sharp Cheddar, Edam, Wensleydale available to almost everyone
>Americans have one "award-winning" cheese while 99% of the population only has "pasteurized emulsified cheese imitation product" in a fucking can
>Americans still get this assblasted when somebody points this out

>>13539613
That's a millennial thing.
T. millennial

>>13544592
Except we have the option to actually not even buy and consume those things. We have it all.

>>13545254
lmao look at this cope nigga go dilate

>>13544945
I noticed a massive spike in "everything from america sucks" posts on this board the same week that Iranian got vaporized. Coincidence? Possibly.

>>13540108
I think you may have literal autism

>>13545263
Are they on the verge of a typhoid or bubonic plague outbreak like california and seattle? Dont forget the leprosy. And you can achieve all this by simply giving away half of your paycheck to the government!

>>13539659
Europe is not a country though

>>13545326
that's because you never came here until /pol/ sent you to argue about "muslim food"

>>13539580
>won only one award
>huur durr were the best cheesemaker

>>13545444
You first have to earn a pay cheque you loser.
Every person who mentions this is a person who lacks intelligence and counts every cent they make and cannot afford to think about how public money enriches their communities, society and their country.

>>13545326
Which week did this occur?
"Iranian got vapourized"

you fucken stupid uneducated little shit.

>>13539659
Congrats