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Auchetnoshan 18

>mfw scotch distilleries put over a decade into producing something that sucks

balvenie sherry single cask
balvenie week of peat
lagavulin distillers edition
something old from bunnahabhain
glendronach 18/21 or a single cask
redbreast 21
and of course anything from springbank is the best

>>13490463
That picture is making my mouth water ya cunt

>>13490463
Laphroaig QC if you're the type.
Lagavulin 16 was a disappointment for me, doesn't really has much over something like Highland Park, but at almost double the price.

Highland Park 12 if you never tried it.

>>13490463
aberlour a'bunadh

>>13490463
Drinking a bottle I got gifted and I'm not much of a Scotch drinker so I have some questions.
Is this good?
neat or with a drop of water?

>>13491315
It's good. Macallan is famous for being pretty middle-of-the-road-good and jacking up their prices double in the past 10 years. They have lost a lot of good will. I personally like it. You will likely like any other highland or speyside scotch.

Drinking neat is a maymay for people who don't understand science. Scotch needs at least a few drops of water to open up in almost every case. I put more like a half teaspoon in macallan 12.

>>13491349
yeah, i added water. A nice whiskey bar I go to gives me a water dropper when I order

>>13491355
reminder that one of the most respected whiskey reviewers on youtube puts like 2oz of water in whiskey sometimes

do like ralfy says- learn how YOU want to enjoy it. just don't put ice in scotch. whiskey is fine, but not scotch.

I usually go for the Jim Lahey special because its the cheapest:) its also 100% rye and i like rye whiskey.

>>13491409
ralfy is a fraud. 99% of his “wisdom” is bullshit and the rest is common sense

>>13491514

>>13491349
>Drinking neat is a maymay
Telling others how to enjoy their whiskey is the real meme. If you're limiting yourself to just drinking whiskey in one specific way because someone on the internet said it's how you should enjoy it, you're just as bad as people who refuse to try new foods because they sound icky or whatever. Every time you get a new whiskey, you should experiment with it as much as you can to find how you like it the best. Drink it neat, add water incrementally, add ice, mix it with whatever you like in whatever ratios, try it after and with different kinds of foods at different times of the day etc etc.

If you're drinking whiskey to experience the whiskey, then actually experience it instead of limiting yourself to "the right way".

>>13491315
OP here. I frequently hear that macallan is solid, good stuff, but I don't like it at all. I've at least liked something about all the whiskies I've tried, and am happy to finish the dram- except macallan. I've had both the 12 sherry and 15 and both of them have a flavor I can't identify that I really don't like. I find them cloying.

>>13491514
tell me more. I don't believe you. Ralfy is S-tier comfy.

ugh the restaurant I work at can't source the 12 cs, only the 10, and we get it from the state. I'm worried that it's not even available in Michigan. What do?

Glen Garioch 12

French whiskey, not scotch.
Previously, it was great. I was stunned. I was insatiated. It was earthy.
However, new lots are less mature. It is very disappointing.

I've been loving Jefferson's for the last few years
it's just very nice to have a pour of once or twice a week

What am I in for?

Bourbon is objectively better.

I could never into scotch even though the rest of my family all like it. For me, it’s bourbon

>>13493739
What part of the state you in bud? If it’s my area I could maybe recommend you a few stores that you could ask.

>>13494768
Maybe you should try irish whiskey or the aberlour abunadh. They have flavor profiles close to bourbon

>>13494225
Ever tried Vicomte? At 70% ABV it fucking rocked.

>>13494768
Oakland county. Appreciated, but I haven't even called the shops around me, I was just being dumb and panicky after a shift. If I really can't find it, I'll report back.

I gotta ask, what do you like about bourbon? It just seems to have less going on IMO. I've had blanton's, booker's, IW 15, stagg jr, and a few others, and the ones I liked most were stagg and bookers- the others were all too similar. I'm not throwing it under the bus, I just want to know what to look for.

>>13491304
>>13494818
>aberlour abunadh
I've seen mention of this a few times and an anon last thread called it the best whisky they've ever tasted. It looks really cool, what with the cask-strengthness and all. However, it places real close to Macallan on the malt map:
https://scotchgit.bitbucket.io/
and I can't stand Macallan. I don't mind a little sherry though, as I like balvenie and uigaedail is sherried.

I think I'm looking for a cask-strength bottle that features brine and salt, since I'm getting the uigaedil which showcases peat and smoke. I really like talisker 10, but I hear it's overrated. Idk what the Springbank features though.

>>13494351
looks slick. How were the neck pours?

First two are solid picks.
Third one I'd say go for Ledaig or peated Bunnahabhain if you want salty peat and Port Charlotte 10 if you want meaty-ish stuff like the Ardbeg.

ITT: Paid Talisker shill starts his own shill thread in a subtle fashion.

>>13491349
>Macallan is famous for being pretty middle-of-the-road-good
Not anymore they aren't.
If you want a "good" Macallan you basically have to pay over $120 USD which is same price as a 20+ year old single cask Clynelish that blows it out of the water.
Also Glengoyne, Glenfarclas, Glendronach, Tamdhu and many others do sherry cask better then nu-Macallan.
>>13495625
Stop being fucking retarded autist.

>>13495630
>doesn't even find it a little odd that a relatively obscure whisky is the most commonly mentioned whisky on /ck/
$.01 has been deposited into your account, Gaupooshankar.

what's the best lowland distillery? What are lowland scotches known for?

>>13495648
Talisker is a Diageo owned distillery that sells in literally every major liquor market in the world. In no way is it obscure to anyone who actually drinks scotch. Maybe to retards who watch James Bond drinking Macallan and Glenfiddich but to people who care almost everyone knows about Talisker, even those who go to Skye for nature tourism.

>>13495687
>what's the best lowland distillery?
Depends on what you like. My personal favorite was St. Magdalene but they got demolished and turned into condos back in the 90s. Nowadays Daftmill in Fife seem to be all the rage among collectors.
>What are lowland scotches known for?
Lighter then the thicker and oilier Highlands with more fruit and floral forward flavors but not as fruity or sweet as Speysides generally. A good example of the style would be bourbon cask Auchentoshan or Bladnoch.

>>13495711
>Talisker is a Diageo owned distillery
Look at him name drop his employer like they're a big deal. How cute.

>>13495888
Not even gonna feed this bait anymore.
Also learn how to greentext properly you obsessed faggot.

>>13495625
>>13495711
>>13495888
OP here, I'm not a talisker shill. I like ardbeg heads and shoulders over talisker. ardbeg is only fractionally owned by Diageo. Further, I'm trying my damndest to get my hands on a bottle of springbank 12 CS. Speaking of which:

>>13494768
I spoke too soon. I called around to local liquor stores (the good ones) and none had it. One even told me that springbank has been discontinued in michigan. I contacted some stores in ohio and apparently springbank is unavailable there as well. All that's available are the 10 and 15 I saw last night on the state-of-michigan website for liquor licensees, which I assume is just remaining stock.

I'd rather have the 12 CS (I hear it's the most springbank-y springbank), but depending on how much it'll cost my NYC friend plus shipping, I might just settle for 10.

So I realized the Buffalo Trace sold in my country is different from the one in the US. It's 80 proof instead of 90. Do you guys think it's still worth buying or should I get WT101 instead?

>>13496593
WT101 is better then the 90 proof anyhow so go with the gobbler

>>13496593
At first I figured you were just being stupid, no way they would have two versions of the same product sold under the exact same name, but after looking into it you're right totally right. I also live in one of the countries that has the 40% alcohol one and had no idea. That's fucking terrible. BT was one of the choices for my next bottle but I guess now I can steer well away from it.

Mama, take this badge off of me,
I can't use it anymore.
It's gettin' dark, too dark to see,
I feel like I'm knocking on heaven's door.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm9coqlk8fY

you have $20, what's your go to?

>>13497248
bulleit rye

>>13497248
State monopoly won't sell liquor that cheap unless it's a mickey. Would have to settle for fortified wine.

>>13497231
>Tennessee whisky
Hard pass

>>13497248
evan williams 1783

>>13497248
A handle of Evan Williams.

>>13490532
Got gifted a 12 year for my birthday, gonna crack it open tonight. Good?

>>13497466
The 12 is a fair bit harsher than the 18. The 18 is so smooth and fruity it's easy to confuse it for a brandy, the 12 needs more coaxing with correct temperature and a drop of water to bring it out of its shell.

>>13497492
Good to know, thanks.

>>13497492

>>13497248
An Irish

I'm not the biggest whiskey drinker, but I really enjoy it and want to try more.

The stuff I've liked so far:
>Glenfiddich 12
>Talisker Skye (apparently that's bad? I liked it)
>Glenlivet
>Tullamore Dew
>Dimple
>Drambuie
Any recommendations?

I tried jim bean, Johnny walker and jack daniels. All very meh, but they're everywhere.

Jameson I quite disliked.

>>13490463
I had a Springbank 10 last week and was quite surprised at how below average it was. I suspect the Sprinkbank hype is similar to the no colouring or non chill filtered memes - not actually a sign of a better whisky.

>>13495556
>it places real close to Macallan on the malt map
Macallan is smooth and timid. Abunadh is aggressive.
They may be stylistically the same, but the result isn't even close.

>I really like talisker 10, but I hear it's overrated
I don't know where you heard Talisker 10 was overrated. The two points of view presented here are either that it's great or it's undrinkably shit. In any case I have never been disappointed by any Talisker, and they do have a 57% bottle that supposedly tastes briney. And brine is not a common tasting note, so I don't see what other options you have.

You could of course abandon that direction and go with something else. Non-Islay peat, or independent bottlings of scotch finished in Islay barrels.

>>13495630
Glengoyne isn't sherried.
Glendronach is another disappointing dram I had last week, it really didn't live up to the hype presented here. It isn't that fruity at all, I was expecting a lot more from a supposedly exclusive sherry maturation, but it wasn't that different from regular sherry finished Speyside 12 year olds.
Glenrothes on the other hand is fantastic.

>>13496593
I have been disappointed by every lower abv American whiskey I've ever tried, including Buffalo Trace, with the exception of Bulleit which is a cheap and simple dram.

>>13497248
Wine because whiskey isn't that cheap

>>13499553
>Glenfiddich 12 / Glenlivet
Try all the other Speysides: Glen Grant 12, Glen Moray 15, etc. Then try anything sherry finished.
>Talisker Skye
It's good, but it's the worst Talisker. Try Storm, 10, Dark Storm and Distillers edition. Talisker is a good entry into Islay after that.

>>13499677

>Try all the other Speysides: Glen Grant 12, Glen Moray 15, etc. Then try anything sherry finished.

>It's good, but it's the worst Talisker. Try Storm, 10, Dark Storm and Distillers edition. Talisker is a good entry into Islay after that.

cheers

>>13499677
>independent bottlings of scotch finished in Islay barrels.

Thanks for the advice. What's the best way to look into this? Also, any chance bottles like this come in under $110? That's about my cutoff right now for a single bottle.


Anyone tried pic related? apparently it's matured in bourbon barrels instead of sherry.

>>13494608
I was pretty disappointed desu. If I bought EW again I'd buy the bottled in bond

I just had Suntory last night for the first time.
I had it over ice.
I thought it smelled really good.
It was super smooth.
Might not do ice next time, wasn't that strong.

>>13490463
Right now I have a few bottles, here's how I would rank them based on my experience what do you guys think? And what should I try next?

Johnnie Walker Black
Four Roses (the base one haven't tried small batch)
Glenmorangie 10yr
Chivas Regal
George Dickel Rye
Mellow Corn
Buffalo Trace

Unopened: Templeton Rye 4yr

>>13500947
What type of Chivas Regal was it?

I've only had this type.

Do you guy buy bottles so that you have multiple ones at home at once or do you only have 1-2 at a time and then buy new ones once they're empty or near empty?

>>13501267
it was the regular one i think the 12 year? pic related

>>13501290
I keep about a half dozen instead of going bottle by bottle for a couple reasons. I like offer drinks to friends when they come over and it's nice to be able to offer them some variety, and for me, I get kind of bored drinking the same thing night after night so adding some variety makes drinking a lot more enjoyable for me. I used to have a pretty serious drinking problem and would just pound back tons of miller high life and one or two brands of vodka and wine, which got really boring after a while. Mixing it up helps me drink more responsibly in a way I think, that's just me though.

>>13490532
Auchentoshan Three Wood would be my choice

>>13490463
>3. ???
said it before and i say it again...(pic)

>>13490463
>>13493739
ever tried this one?

>>13494351
good choice

hardly anyone knows it

to me its like a young lagavulin cs

great bang for the buck

even better than finlaggan

>>13500884
I tried it without watering down and it burned like a motherfucker, but I also drink quickly
gave it 3-4 drops of water and sipped it like a little bitch and it was much more pleasant

>>13497248
Four roses

>>13500884
It's all going to be different depending on region. I probably can't get anything under $110 in Australia, but if you're American or European I imagine you can.
You're either going to find them online or you're going to have to look for a rather specialist whiskey bottle shop.

Here's a list of independent bottlers taken from a bar menu:
The Scotch Malt Whisky Society, Gordon & MacPhail, Signatory Vintage, Cadenhead, Hidden Spirits, Silver Seal, Kingsbury, Maltbarn of Germany,
Silvano Samaroli, Whisky Fassle, Acorn, Douglas Laing, Wilson & Morgan,
Wemyss, Whisky Roundabout, Adelphi, Asta Morris.

Of them I've tried and been impressed by bottlings from Wilson & Morgan, The Coopers Choice, Cadenhead and The North Star.

>>13500947
Sounds like you like scotch.
Johnnie Walker has a double black. If you like that you may enjoy peat, so move into Talisker and then Ardbeg. Either way try Johnnie Walker Green and if you like it than try its constituents: Linkwood, Cragganmore, Caol Ila, and Talisker (the last two are peaty).
Try all the other whiskeys with "glen" in its name, especially those from the Speyside region. Glen Grant, Glenfiddich, Glen Moray, Glenlivet. Also try some of Glenmorangie's cask finishes. Quinta Ruben is quite good.
Monkey shoulder isn't far from Chivas.

>>13501290
I leave them at a mates place and go over to drink on a Friday with 4 others. There are 30 opened bottles and we've had to add supports to the shelf. Additionally everything that I've bought but have yet to bring (always buy on sale) I've tasted.
So. Buy the new ones according to sales in advance but don't open them. Keep it to 1-2 at a time. There is zero point having more bottles open than you will drink from in a night.

>>13502580
>If you like that you may enjoy peat, so move into Talisker
This is a paid advertisement.

>>13502580
Go away, Talisker shill. Do you have to spam literally every fucking thread?
>>13503198
This.

>>13502052
my friend says this stuff is bomb. is it better than wild turkey 101?

>>13503239
It's actually really good shit.
the thing is they have 2 different mash bills, one with 20% rye, the other 35% rye
then they have 5 different yeast strains which use different variations of to make their different bourbons.
wt101 (12% rye btw) is still my go to and I buy gallons of it but I will always keep a bottle of four roses single barrel on hand.

>>13491445
rip in peas

>>13497915
nothing wrong with chilling

>>13503417
Whisky becomes less flavorful as its temperature lowers from room temperature. You are wrong.

>>13503432
no u

>>13503198
>>13503218
>Recommends 14 whiskeys, one of which is Talisker
>Talisker shill
You know I think you're the shill. Are you personally involved with a competing company? Stop spamming these threads.
It's a popular whiskey. It will come up in every recommendation thread. Why are you not complaining about Ardbeg, Lagavulin, Laphroaig or Macallan? They come up every thread.

>>13491445
rye whiskey is underrated as fuck. a
good or even average rye goes down smoother than any other spirit.

>>13497263
best cheap rye

Does anybody know something that tastes similar to this that I can buy in europe but isn't totally overpriced?

Just picked up a bottle of this to ring in the new decade and I am very impressed so far

>>13495556
you can't rely on "malt map", it doesn't mean one thing is just like another

This shit slaps. Also my gf got me a bottle of Woodford Reserve for Christmas I just opened, I forgot how much I liked that stuff.

>>13503460
Rye is objectively harsh, but it is nice.

>>13503470
Evan Williams black label

Should I try rum?

>>13503542
yeah nigga

>>13503470
You could always piss in a bottle of mouthwash.

I used to host a scotch club years ago where me and 15 ish other folks would go in on two bottles together. The two that stuck with me most were Old Pulteney and Laphroaig.

Where might I venture from there?

>>13503589

>Pre-tariff

I cringed when I saw lagavulin jumped to $81 ($70ish before) now for the 16 and 8 yrs. Even laphraoig jumped from $25 to $31. This is what I picked up today. After I get over my pneumonia, I'm cracking open that springbank.

>>13503537
if you can find this in europe its the same style, a little rougher though and cheap

>>13503838
>mfw they do buy 1 take 1 promos of Evan where I live

this shit's like drinking an old-fashioned with some orange bitters and pepper on top
I appreciate its depth but at the end of the day, I don't think I like it much

novice here. what ive had so far from best to worst
>makers mark bourbon 90 proof
>jack daniels single barrel select
>regular evan williams bourbon
>regular jack daniels/no 7
>gentleman jack
>some scotch i dont remember the name of
>jd tennessee honey
>jd tennessee fire

What should I try next?

>>13504011
woodford reserve / double oak

How much do you drink in a week?

>>13504087
Yes!

>>13503961
is this stuff new? i've never seen it before i'll have to try it

>>13503525
I was underwhelmed when I had a dram, but it was also only the 5th or 6th whisky I'd ever tasted.

>>13503829
Very nice. I (op) just put in an order for an uigaedil and a talisker, but I'm still looking to get my hands on that springbank 12 year cask strength. I sent a message to the distillery on their contact page, hopefully they send me some leads.

Also, I mentioned it to my boss, a bourbon buff, said he'd never heard of it, but also that he didn't give a fuck, he could 100% get me a bottle if I could afford it. I wonder what a fair price is, I read somewhere that speculators are driving it up.

>>13502617
You have good friends. I can only think of two or three people I know who would respect my bottles and not down half of them or more while I'm away. Some others who don't like whiskey maybe, but my gut tells me I couldn't trust them with a bottle of anything over $35.

>>13503446
This. Talisker is an insincere brand. They add colorant, get they barley from the mainland and bottle on the mainland. But IDGAF, it tastes good and more salty than any other scotch I've had. I like my ocean flavor.

>>13504011
wild turkey 101

>>13504362
seconding this, if you like sweet bourbon like that wild turkey is a classic, the 101 proof version is the best

>>13504320
>This. Talisker is an insincere brand. They add colorant, get they barley from the mainland and bottle on the mainland. But IDGAF, it tastes good and more salty than any other scotch I've had. I like my ocean flavor.

Aww, that sucks, I didn't know they whored out their barley. Still, it's one of my favourites. I guess I have no tongue.

>>13490463
Anyone on here tried Indian single malts before? I bought a limited edition bottle of Rampur (limited edition because of sherry cask finish) while passing through a duty free and it rocks

What whisky is shilled the second most by paid advertisers on /ck/ behind Talisker?

>>13504744
>>13503446

>>13504011
Makers Mark was my first and only bourbon so far. Weird seeing it be your best, I didn't think it was that great. I thought Evan Williams was supposed to be better.

>>13490550
so true

>>13505241
>I thought Evan Williams was supposed to be better.
You realise whiskey is a matter of taste? Besides "Evan Williams" doesn't tell a whole lot. Which product are you talking about? Black label or one of their more premium bourbons?
That being said, personally I prefer even the black label though not by much. Can't get the others were I'm at. Sometimes I get a slight plastic or rubber glove like smell from Maker's which I don't like but it's rare and I think it might be mostly from fresh bottles. Still both good and I'd be happy to drink either.

>>13490463
glenfiddich single malt 12 year is bretty good and tastes amazing compared to price

Which cheap scotch <25€ is best for a relative beginner (tried 12 Euro scotch before, didn't like it, got into bourbon after and liked that a lot more)? I think I don't like peat.
These are some options on amazon I'm looking at

Monkey Shoulder Triple Malt Scotch
Glenfiddich 12 Single Malt
Johnnie Walker Black Label Blended Scotch
Bowmore 12 Single Malt
Tamnavulin Speyside Single Malt Scotch

>>13505523
The monkey shoulder, glenfiddich, and black label are all great choices here. If you dont like peat but still want a good offer from islay check out the bruichladdich classic laddie.

>>13505523
I've not tried it myself but I've heard a lot of good things about Monkey Shoulder as a value for money and beginner purchase. It's probably going to be my next bottle. I'm also a beginner and like bourbon the most so far. Only thing I'm worried with Monkey Shoulder is that it's often described as delicate and gentle or whatever and I'm wondering if that means tasteless in normal terms.

>>13505664
>described as delicate and gentle or whatever and I'm wondering if that means tasteless in normal terms
It does. Same for the word "refreshing" used to describe beer or wine.
However the only ~intense whiskies on your list are peaty.

>>13505466
yes

I love Whiskey but it's so fucking expensive.

>>13506320
It isn't unless you're a pretentious fuck who can only drink 50+ bucks bottles.

>>13506320
>>13506361
I'm a pretentious fuck who can only drink 50+ bottles, and it's still not that expensive. I just don't drink a lot, no more than two or three drams a week. I just really take my damn time to savor them. 750ml is like 13 to 15 drinks, so I get a couple months out of a single bottle. A $68 bottle is the same price as an $8 six-pack a week of craft beer, which I would enjoy a lot less even though it's more drinking.

>>13505523
Bowmore 12 > Tamnavulin > Glenfiddich > Monkey > JW.

>>13505664
>I'm wondering if that means tasteless in normal terms.
Yes. Hence my recommending the single malts, with the peaty one at the top. If you want to actually 'know' your scotch, get the bowmore. Tamnavulin or Glenfiddich aren't bad choices, but for a beginner I recommend the deep end instead of fucking around where the water is 4 feet deep. Monkey and JW are the wading pool, you're only up to your ankles.

>>13504744
Seems like Johnny Walker Blue Label.
>also Diageo
Hmm...

Anybody had the glen moray port cask finished?

>Awright ma malty motherfuckers

Seriously tho, if you're ever going to go on a distillery tour Springbank is the best. They do everything on site. They malt the barley, ferment it, distil it, cooper the barrels, store it, blend it, bottle it. Its all onsite.

the 12yr cask strength is awesome.

>>13501512
No, why do you recommend it?

>>13501506
same question

Is this bourbon any good

How long do you guys typically take to finish a 750 ml bottle? Relatively new to whiskey and I don't know how long they're intended to last. Wouldn't have more than one dram in a given night, but how many drams a week? 2-3?

>>13507169
A dram per night while watching Tucker Carlson here.

>>13507169
About a year.

>>13507203
>>13507199
So on average about two months, thanks.

>>13507203
You drink like one third of a shot per week? Or do you inhale the the whiskey one drop at a time or something?

whisky/whiskey was alright for me until i tried on of the peated scotes from islay and got hooked eversince.
favourite one so far is ardbeg corryvreckan.

>>13507538
I do not drink on a weekly basis.

>>13506413
700ml is 22 standard drinks, each being a 30ml pour.
You can get craft beer for $8 a six pack? and I thought we were only getting screwed on spirits. It'd cost somewhere in the low 20s here.

>>13506523
I've tried all of them except the peated one. Classic was the best, followed by chardonnay.
As much as you'd expect port to be the best, it is very much held back by the spirit and the finishing period couldn't have been that long either. Wouldn't recommend.

I had a little experiment a few months ago where I bought whiskey sample bottles from an online whiskey peddler, in the hopes of finding one I enjoyed enough to wanna buy a full bottle of it. I tried a bunch of different ones, but the only one that ever tasted smooth and nice was a Redbreast 12 year one. I also found out I REALLY don't like peated whiskey. Any advice?

>>13508036
Don't drink peated whisky.

>>13508036
...don't buy peated whisky then?
If you're asking for recs, try unpeated like Ilse of Arran of sherried like Glendronach or Tomatin12 (if you're on a budget)

>>13508050
Yeah I meant recs or whatever other wisdom you guys might have for a novice. I liked redbreast like I said, are these you're talking about anything like it?

>>13508061
Isle of Arran is a scotch a bit like it. But if you like Redbreast you might want to hang around the Irish whisky category a bit more. Middleton rare is really good but costs an arm. Green/Yellow/red spot whisky is great but also a bit pricey.

You might like Powers then, at about 30$ a bottle and widely available.

>hear people talk shit on laphroaig
>try it
>it's fucking good
wew

>>13508232
>wew
You don't want to like peat. It's already more expensive than comparatively aged whiskies from other regions and it's only going to get worse.

>can drink beer all day
>been doing it for years
>a few shots of liquor makes me want to vomit
what the fuck

>>13508458
That's a fair, but I can't not like it now that I know I really like it. Guess I'll have to just bite the money bullet if I want to drink this shit again.

>>13508511
maybe try not doing shots like a 15 year old
just sip it or mix a drink and drink it like a normal person.

anyone tried this?

>>13508658
Ok yeah I wasn't doing shots per se but taking swigs way too often
I almost never drink liquor

Is Japanese whiskey a meme or worth it?

>>13508511
Opposite for me. Beer gives me headaches and bad hangover. Liquor i feel great the next day no bloatedness no fatigue

>>13508979
It was worth it but demand has outstripped supply so prices are up and more often than not you're getting gaijin whisky blended in.

>>13507845
Thanks, your answer was kind of what I was expecting. Do you have a recommendation for a port finish? I've never tried one and am interested. Quinta Ruban?

>>13508977
what kind of liquor you drinking?
if its whisky just pour a bit and sip on it, no need to swig it really.

I’m 63 days sober. Fuck you. I ASKED GOD TO REMOVE MY SHORTCOMINGS

>>13508982
Damn well that sucks.

>>13509008
God won't magically do all the work. Keep praying and I'm sure He will do great works with you.

>>13504221
It released late last year, 13 years of age
For the money, it's dank

>>13509001
R&R whisky
I was bored of natty ices and it was the cheapest bottle I saw
t. almost alcoholic

>>13508916
yeah, it's pretty good if you're into the cereal/caramel taste
the alabama style whiskey is also great for old fashioneds

>>13508995
As it happens I have that bottle right here. It's great, go for it.

>>13508061
Glenfarclas 12 reminds me of Redbreast 12 and vice versa in terms of flavor. You won't, however, find that oily, creamy single pot still Irish whisky mouthfeel in any Scotch AFAIK.

Have to wait a few months before I start drinking again. It gets too much every time I pick it back up.

>>13509054
I'd try some wild turkey 101 if I were you
but if you really want something good try four roses single barrel.
just popped a fresh bottle tonight and its fucking amazing.

>>13509667
Not the guy you were replying to but I think I'll pick this up next time I grab something, thanks for the tip.

I'm semi-poor, bought a bottle of pic related as a birthday gift. It's my first islay/peated scotch. I found it enjoyable and I like the smokiness of it. However, reviews seemed to be mixed, ralfy didnt like it but Horst Luning did. What's /ck/'s take?

>>13509690
Only tried the 15 and 18 but I like the style

>>13507829
>30ml pour.
the bar I work at does 37.5ml standard pours, and 52.5 neat, and 60 double. I usually think of 1.75 oz as the perfect amount for a dram.

>>13508458
OP here.

I know. 10 year bottles are gonna be like 150-200 in a decade because americans are gonna discover single malts like they discovered craft beer. The middle-to-bottom market is gonna explode with demand. Hipsters will compete over enjoying high PPM like they competed over how many IBUs they liked.

Enjoy the peace while it lasts.

>>13509008
op here again. I just discovered a deep love for scotch two weeks to the new year. I'm buying bottles now, but I won't open them till 2020 because I've been planning on a dry year since june. Stay sober with me for a year bud

>>13509722
Is this like that movie The Lake House? Are you posting from 2019?

>>13509722
>text perfectly legible but talks like he's a year behind in time
You remind me of a guy back from when I was in the army who got properly drunk and threw up in his sleep in the barracks. We woke him up and were talking to him trying to figure out whether we need to take him to the drunk tank. He answered every question and seemed pretty normal except that he kept saying that he was 46 years old no matter how many times you asked when in reality he was around 20-years-old.

>>13509712
>Hipsters will compete over enjoying high PPM
They have, it's called Octomore. The catch is nobody can afford it. The cheapest one is $185 here.

>>13510384
>The catch is nobody can afford it
>$185

>>13509690
I tend to align myself with Horst on the tasting preferences. I have the 18 and it's fantastic.

>>13504399
Tried amrut a while back. It's trash.

>>13503545
>flor de cana

>>13504744
Bulleit

>>13504399
>sherry-finished poo whisky
This seems like asking for sulphur candle.

>>13509690

I didn't really care for it. I bought it for $55 at total wine and it was a love hate relationship. I loved the backdrop of sweetness but it was not enough peat for me. It almost reminds me of talisker 10yr but less refined.

Don't mind me. Just posting the greatest alcohol on the god damn planet.

>>13512769
I've been hearing good things about that. Might give it a go once I'm back on scotch in the rotation

>>13504399
whichever one won best international whiskey either last year or the year before, was very good but not worth the 250 dollars I had to pay for it
Kavalan is fucking gr8 if you've got money to burn, definitely in the India/Japan ballpark as far as flavors go

>>13512802
Don't buy it if you don't like smoke. It is probably the least subtle most unbalanced whiskey ever. It is just pure smoky campfire goodness and doesn't care about trying to hide that.

Jefferson’s very small batch

Never any alternative.

>>13513095
t.person who has never had Uigeadail
Your description sounds more like Ardbeg 10 than Uigeadail, which has a nice balance of smoke and sherry cask sweetness, richness and spice.

>>13513557
You're on crack. The Uig is literally known for being a pure smoke whiskey with high proof and no taste balance. That's how they market it and they even brag about it on the bottle. There are lots of great balanced whiskies out there. Uig is not one of them, and that's why it's great.

>>13513995
...are you confusing Uigeadail with Corryvreckan or something? You do realize Uigeadail is sherried, right? Corryvreckan is usually referred to as Uigeadail's less subtle, more heavy handed on the campfire smoke brother, not the other way around.

>give me the most expensive scotch you have on the rocks with coke and dump a container of cinnamon in it

>>13509690
I tried this but wont buy again. I really preferred the Ardbeg 10yr and Lagavulin 16. I just ordered some more of those plus the Uigeadail that everyone swears buy. I also ordered a Talisker 10 yo and a Lagavulin 8 and Caol Ila 8 yo.

>>13514975
There's a whisky bar near my apartment. Next time I'm in there I'll try the Ardbeg. Would have bought a bottle of that opposed to the Bowmore, but my liquor store didn't carry it.

I recently got into scotch, and have only tried Islays so far. I love the peaty favor, and am hesitant to try something when I already know I like the Islays. Can someone break down the differences between the various Scotch by regions?

>>13514542
just get fireball

>>13514994
There's the Islay region, they tend to be smokey.
Then there's every other region and they don't.

Speyside - light and fruity
Highlands - like Speyside, only for fans of Highlander. Demands a couple of dollars more.
Lowlands - There's so little here that you're literally just describing your favourite whisky from the area.
Campbeltown - not a region. Sprinkbank insists that one distillery makes a region, and the scotch whiskey association said a region requires at least two. So now there are two Springbank distilleries.

>>13515034
So I guess I'm going to stick to Islay. Love the smoke.

>>13515055
One of the major points of scotch is the diversity. You don't have to stop drinking Islay but at least google around for the quintessential bottles from each region and either buy a small bottle or try them at a whiskey bar. There's nothing wrong with drinking what you like but at least try the variations of the thing you like so you know you're not missing out on anything.

>>13514975
wtf you ordering 6 bottles for holy fuck

>>13515208
Cause I've been a poorfag my whole life but am now making 6 figures for the first time in my life this year. I am spending money on skiing every weekend and scotch but the money still keeps pilling up in my bank account. Take the SIG pill and life is good..

>>13490463
I got a $13 1.75L of blended scotch because I've only tried Chivas Regal and I've got to say it tasted like the same thing at least as far as I could remember. Way easier to drink than cheap bourbon or Canadian whiskey.

>>13515249
What you do?

Ethanol tastes like shit
What is it that you enjoy about whiskey?

>>13515416
The bit where the flavor imparted by the grains and the barrel aging make ethanol taste good

>>13515249
guy you replied to. Okay sounds pretty fair. I'm a loser and if I started making 6 figures out of nowhere, I'd go skiing every weekend and stock myself a scotch bar too.

probably would have gotten abelour abundah alba instead of the laga 8 though, just for more variety.

>>13515416
The ethanol solves and acts as a delivery vehicle for various flavorful and aromatic molecules. Once you get used to high strength alcohol and enough of these substances in the solution as you get in quality whisky you don't taste the ethanol but instead only get the pleasant flavors from.

>>13515416
Try some good whiskey. Dont really taste any alcohol at all. Wildturkey101 is 50% alcohol but doesnt taste it

>>13490463
Recently picked up a bottle of Tomatin 14 year, aged in tawny port casks. Highland whiskies, especially the fruitier ones, really aren't my usual choice, but I have to recommend giving this one a try.

>>13515920
I see that one often but it's hard to not just pick up the 12 for 30$. How much better is it?

>>13515893

>try some good whiskey
>recommends Wild Turkey
Yikes.

>>13516186
Why not actually contribute instead of just posting the Shitposter's Choice buzzword?

>>13514975
>I also ordered a Talisker 10 yo
My condolences, anon.

>>13514994
>>13515034
Go for sherry bombs if you want something other than peat which isn't "light and fruity." Scotches which are aged exclusively in sherry casks typically have additional sweetness, richness and spiciness compared to a typical, non-sherried Speyside.

>>13515339
Clinical Laboratory Scientist

>>13516036
I honestly couldn't say, I'm afraid, I've never tried the 12.

>>13506582
no way man Springbank 12 CS is terrible and no one should buy it, and they especially shouldn't buy it from my local store that I also don't buy it from.

>>13508995
I'm not that other guy but Arran Port Cask is *really* good for the price.

>>13517397
Please direct me to your store so that I can avoid it at all costs.

>>13490463
Pic related is unpeated islay and tastes all mineraly and briny, then gets kinda floral and honey the more you drink, its fucking delicious.

>>13496593
Bong here, I used to like BT but going back to it after trying more obscure stuff its bland as fuck at 40%. Interestingly the miniatures are still 45% and it definitely needs that extra punch. Grab one and see the difference yourself.

>>13517429
Very questionable bottle design. The color is a big part of whiskey. Why hide it behind that awful cyan wrap?

>>13517462
Yeah what the actual fuck. It looks like a Pepto Bismol bottle

>>13502052
Can't go wrong with four roses. Their standard bottle is great but single barrel is fucking delicious

>>13504011
You might like wheat whiskys if you like Makers the best. Try Weller or Bernheim. I went through a phase of loving them but ultimately found them kinda one-note and on the verge of bland. Or you could try Eagle Rare as for my money it's the best whiskey at its price point and blows many that are double its price out the water.

>>13517462
It's weird but I kinda like it, it's definitely memorable. All their bottles follow the same design, this one just looks the most garish. Get past that and the whiskeys fucking amazing though.

>>13517462
I think it's meant to evoke the sea around the distillery.

>>13516449
I'm not sure exclusively sherry matured whiskey is all it's cracked up to be.
Glenrothes is probably the closest to the promise of a dominate dark fruit flavour.
A'bunadh is great but it doesn't taste That different to the 12 year old which isn't exclusively sherry matured, it mostly just punches harder and that has to be the alcohol.
Glendronach doesn't offer more sherry influence than your typical speyside. Keeping in mind that your typical Speyside is sherry finished.

Furthering that, there are plenty of sherry finished Islays which will absolutely give you an idea of what it's about.

>>13517462
It really isn't. Not just is everyone and their mothers using artificial colouring, but tonnes of uncoloured fantastic whiskey ends up being an unappealing light straw character that makes it looks as if it's barely touched wood.
Islays all have stained glass because they're not proud of the colour.
Speysides have clear glass because they're proud of caramel colouring 125.
The only actually visually appealing whiskey is heavily sherried stuff and even there redness isn't a sign of quality. Also they do stuff like widen the bottle so that it looks darker on the shelf so that you can confuse it with bottles that have seen more sherry.

This one, being an Islay, will be an unappealing light straw character that makes it looks as if it's barely touched wood.

>>13517942
This. Standard Bruichladdich is very pale. The colour of it definitely belies its big, punchy flavour.

>>13517906
>A'bunadh is great but it doesn't taste That different to the 12 year old which isn't exclusively sherry matured, it mostly just punches harder
What? No. The flavor is much more intense because of the high proof. This doesn't mean that the ethanol flavor is more intense. Other flavors are more intense because it is less diluted than the 12 year old.
>Glendronach doesn't offer more sherry influence than your typical speyside.
The 15 year old sure as fuck does.

>>13518169
>and that has to be the alcohol
>No. The flavor is much more intense because of the high proof
What.

Haven't had the 15.

>>13496066
How do people live in places with state-run liquor stores?

Shit is barbaric to not just pop into any grocer.

>>13518197
I'm more concerned about the lack of selection

>>13518192
>What.
ALL flavors become less intense when you dilute a whisky. Not just the ethanol flavor. Thus, the flavor notes which are typical of a sherried scotch are much more intense in a cask strength whisky than the same exact whisky diluted to 40% or whatever.
A'bunadh is NOT cask strength Aberlour 12. However, the same concept applies here. A'bunadh is MUCH more intensely flavorful than Aberlour 12 because no water is added to it. Aberlour 12's flavor compounds are diluted by the water added to it.

Has anyone tried the Nikka Yoichi / Taketsuru / Miyagikyo?

Friend at the liquor store said he would put one aside for me, trying to decide which

>check website daily for bottle I'm interested in
>Expected in stock Jan 2020
>Check today
>Out of stock

Fuuuuuck!

>>13518305
Yes that is clearly what I meant when I said it was the alcohol

>>13518299
Do your grocery stores suck this much too?

You can find most of the stuff listed in this thread at any Albertsons. And just slightly higher end grocers usually have damn near anything and thats before you even get to the boutique liquor stores here.

I want to try an Islay whisky; should I go for Taliskey Storm or Lavagulin 8?

>>13518567
Take the Bunnahabhain 12 pill

Got a CO2 injector for christmas. Decided I'mma take one of my cheap bottles of scotch and throw it in there to see if it will carbonate.

Wish me luck /ck/

>>13518410
>Yes that is clearly what I meant when I said it was the alcohol
A lot of people would interpret "punches harder" as "has a harder alcohol kick," but OK.

>>13518567
You should go for literally anything but Talisker, which is a bad whisky.
The three Islay "standards" are Ardbeg 10, Laphroaig 10 and Lagavulin 16. Ardbeg is pineapple and campfire smoke. Laphroaig is vegetal, briny smoke. Lagavulin is smoked oysters.

>>13518586
GOOD NEWS!

Apparently you CAN carbonate whiskey.

>>13518608
Is it awesome enough to make something cheap like Dewar's interesting?

>>13518579
I'll eventually get around to that.

>>13518602
>Ardbeg 10
I was looking at that one also, but why 16 instead of 8?

>>13518631
I mean, I used it to make a whiskey and coke. Since the whiskey itself is carbonated now, it doesnt water down the drink

>>13518567
In my region both are not worth buying since they're so closely priced to their older brothers Talisker 10 and Lagavulin 16.
Of those the Lagavulin is better, but you're paying for it.

>>13518602
Ignore the anti-shill spammer. Talisker is a good whiskey on par with Ardbeg and Laphroaig. Same price, same popularity. However Talisker has the least peat of these whiskies so it may be a better introduction.
It's ironic that he's calling Laphroaig briny because it both isn't, and it's the distinctive character of Talisker; light smoke and brine.
Laphroaig tastes of iodine and nuts.
Ardbeg's sweetness isn't so distinctive as to call it pineapple. That's more Glenlivet.
Lagavulin is cold ash. I've never had smoked oysters though.

>>13518567
Ignore >>13518640 who is a paid Talisker/Diageo employee who spams literally every whisky thread.
>>13518633
>why 16 instead of 8?
Because it's 8 years older for a VERY slight price increase. The 8 is a ripoff.

>>13518640
>In my region both are not worth buying since they're so closely priced to their older brothers Talisker 10 and Lagavulin 16.
>Of those the Lagavulin is better, but you're paying for it.

Where I live, Lagavulin 8 and 16 is a ~30 dollar difference, while Taliskey Storm Storm and Talisker 10 is a difference of 10 dollars, so I am going to go with Talisker 10. It'll be my first peat whisky so it'll be a good introduction whiskey. I'll eventually drink Lagavulin 16, and more.
Thanks for the info

>>13518648
>Because it's 8 years older for a VERY slight price increase. The 8 is a ripoff.
Ahh, I see. There's a significant price difference in my area; I usually try to get a different bottle of whiskey each weekend so I'll eventually try them all.

>>13518648
>Ignore >>13518640 who is a paid Talisker/Diageo employee who spams literally every whisky thread.
This. It's really gotten out of control lately, too. He's been banned more than once for it, as well. See:
>>/ck/thread/S12616078#p12618122
>>/ck/thread/S12613681#p12618364
>>/ck/thread/S12616043#p12618384
>>/ck/thread/S12633245#p12638032
>>/ck/thread/S12680300#p12683145

>>13518682
>>/ck/?task=search2&search_media_hash=i4BPKPmY34nLvrYrO4eiHg&offset=72
90. Fucking. Times.
>>13518664
>the "have a conversation with yourself while you pretend to be someone asking for advice and someone giving advice simultaneously, then appear to settle on the product you're shilling" technique
This is literally a well-known shilling technique in the advertising industry.

>>13518664
>It'll be my first peat whisky so it'll be a good introduction whiskey. I'll eventually drink Lagavulin 16, and more.
what the fuck
people don't talk like this
fuck off shill

>>13490463
I got a bottle of Lauder's scotch, apparently they won some gold medals in the 19th century and gave up trying to win anything since.

>shilling to 88 posters on dead thread/board/website
how low can you go

>>13515920
How is Tomatin's cask selection with regards to filtering out casks treated with sulfur candles, /ck/? Anyone? Glenmorangie's port finish intrigues me but they seem to have poor discipline with regards to cask selection and sulfur.
>>13518749
>>13518664
>how low can you go
Apparently, lower: shilling to 88 posters on dead thread/board/website and getting your post deleted for it.

>>13518640
There is absolutely brine in Laphroaig. It's not at Talisker's level of brine, but it's there.

>>13518705
>This is literally a well-known shilling technique in the advertising industry.
No it isn't, and I said Lagavulin was better. Fuck off already.

What's a good super briney scotch?

>>13518633
>I'll eventually get around to that.

It's not all that peaty but there's some salt in there despite mostly being a chocolatey/nutty sherry bomb. It's definitely an interesting Islay whiskey. I am not super into peat monsters so I prefer it and Jura to the big ones from Islay and the other islands

>>13518811
>>13518567

>>13518915
So Lavagulin 8/16 or Bunnahabhain 12?
Already tried Laphroaig 10.

>>13519155
Try Springbank, Kilkerran, Old Pulteney, Bruichladdich, Longrow, Ledaig for brine.

>>13519218
thanks mate

My friend gifted me this, is this even ok? I kinda hate whisky i prefer wine and Liqueur

>>13519356
It's extremely smooth for the price but rather light on flavor.

>>13519155

Ardbeg 10yr my friend. She always splashes with a bit of tasty brine.

are there ever any cigar threads here or would that be a different board

>>13519478

There's no smoking board. However, cigars have been included into /ck/ in whiskey threads.

>>13519478
>>13519488
You can make a separate baccy thread, so long as it's about the baccy itself and not your nicotine dependence.
The thread won't last long though because blogposting alcoholics are still butthurt about their alcoholism general being pushed back to /r9k/ where it belongs so they will shitpost aggressively until the thread is 404'd.

>Go to the bottle-o for a pretty sweet deal on Dalwhinnie 15
>Bait and switch; sale ends prematurely, Winter's Gold on sale instead
>NAS, worse, more expensive
For the first time I put in the effort to find a whisky bar and taste whiskies that are on sale beforehand and I am immediately punished with this shit.

Has anyone tried Lasanta? How does it compare to Quinta Ruban 14?

>>13518787
I get brine in most Laphroaig drams too (10 y, QC, 18 y, Select)

>>13519583
>Has anyone tried Lasanta?
I enjoyed it more than the regular Glenmorangie. More spice and nuts.

>How does it compare to Quinta Ruban 14?
I don't remember the difference between these two as well but I think I preferred the Lasanta. The Quinta Ruban tasted a little more jammy.

I bought this.
good. But somewhat expensive. The taste does not reach the scotch of the same price range.
Trying to be soft, it has become lighter. That's a weakness sometimes found in Japanese whiskey.

>>13520656
nice photo

>>13513995
The other anon is right. Your description sounds more like standard Ardbeg 10.

Bought this over Christmas because it was cheap. It's a little overly sweet, but it's a good mixing whisky.

>>13520876
Cheap blends are hit and miss but they can be fun to try

>>13518334
Ive tried Taketsuru. I liked it but it wasnt anything special. Yoichi is slightly peated I think if you're interested in that. Miyagikyo I've never tried.

I spent the money I was saving up on whiskey instead of buying new clothes to be for /fa/. I guess it's back to clothes shopping at Walmart again.

>>13521240
Why buy clothes when you can sit at home and drink?

I'm unironically going to buy a bottle of Talisker 10 tomorrow, just to piss off that one guy in these threads.
What am I in for?

>>13521680
>shill gets post deleted by mods, likely because they could tell by IP he was samefagging an entire conversation with himself
>multiple anons notice the shilling
>there's no shilling here, just a single anti-shill I want to piss off
t.Talisker shill

>>13521680
Same. Its good stuff.

>>13521721
You think mods come to threads just to look at what posts are from what IPs?

>>13520656
>sometimes
You mean usually.
>>13522089
>be mod/janitor
>reading thread you're interested in
>see what appears to possibly be shilling, others are calling it out as shilling and samefagging
>check IPs because of this
>discover shilling/samefagging
What is difficult to understand about this process?

>>13522357
t. Mod

>>13521680
Idk, I'll tell you in a day or two. Unless you mean the flavor, then expect a solidly-interesting malt with a brine-forward flavor that is still a little peaty.

OP/ alleged paid tailsker shill here. Just bought these, still waiting on getting ahold of that springbank 12. Glad to have the Adbeg oogie, IT TASTES BETTER THAN TALISKER. Also kinda thinking of getting another bottle. Maybe Caol Illa, maybe Abelour Abundah Alba, maybe bruichladdich. Or Laphroaig QC. There are so many I want to try that the bars around here don't stock at all (or try to sell for $25 a fucking dram)

>>13517942
Quality post.

>>13519478
We can talk about cigars too

>>13521721
Deleted anon was another guy, you were arguing with me for the most part.

>>13491445
rip

What am I in for? I keep seeing it in commercials and it's a very well known brand. I bought the 375ml so in case I don't like it I'm not gonna feel guilty wasting it

>>13524493
a mediocre, inoffensive blend
honestly just get monkey shoulder

my current minibar, from "most enjoyable" to "thanks, I hate it"
Glenlivet Triple Cask (so fucking smooth, it just werks)
Laphroaig Four Oak (toasty but not overpowering, the peat is there but it's not the main event)
Dewar's 15 blended (actually sweet and caramel-like if you give it a chance, it's like drinking toffee for fucks sake)
Talisker Dark Storm (instant fucking regret and the reason why I tend to avoid peat, it's like doing a cinnamon challenge on every shot)
all of them are airport freeshop whims, but all in all I think I did well
r8 h8 masturb8

>>13521721
cool it with the autism, this is an actually nice thread

>>13521676
this nigga knows

>>13524560
>Talisker last, where it belongs
Good taste.

>>13517942
I definitely get enjoyment out of the color of the whiskey I'm drinking. Then again I drink mostly bourbon and you're not allowed to add coloring to that. Beyond that nearly every reviewer and anyone qualifying whiskey comments on the color so definitively saying color isn't an important part of whiskey is straight up wrong. Distillers adding coloring in itself disproves that. That doesn't mean that color is a direct indication of quality though but that was never the argument. Color is on the same level as bottle design as it's not a direct indication of quality but if you're drinking whiskey from a plastic bottle you're more likely to like it less than if it were in a nicely designed glass bottle.

>>13519498
it checks out, the dedicated Talisker shitposting autist can only be a disenfranchised robot REEEEing because other people are enjoying things

>>13524493
Get lots of flack for being a blended scotch, but it's my go-to for just easy drinking

>>13525798
it's not bad, just overrated and overhyped by the massive marketing and major brand weight
there are several blended scotchs below its price range that can turn circles around it

>>13524560
I didn't think dark storm was peated at all. It must be very mild.

>>13525052
They either colour it artificially or they colour the bottle so you can't see it. Both achieve the same effect - fooling those who don't know it doesn't matter. And those who do know it doesn't matter taste it all and choose based on taste. Or don't and buy according to review.
Also knowing that you enjoy whisky more from a nice bottle doesn't mean whiskies should have a nice bottle, it means that you should have a nice decanter.

>>13525875
Such as? I recognize it's light and simple, hence the easy drinking bit.

>>13525986
The problem is that decanters aren't airtight, so if you're not drinking that shit regularly, it will lose some of the more delicate flavor to oxidation.

If you know of a good (truly) airtight decanter, please share. I'm looking to start a solera bottle with the last of my grandfather's whiskey that my parents (who don't drink whiskey) have been saving. Most of the ones I see advertised as airtight really aren't though.

>Drink Jameson in a glencairn
>Smells mineraly and like someone is stuffing freshly cut pine into my nostrils with an occasional ethanol burn
>Think it's absolutely terrible
>Try it in a normal drinking glass
>Much better smell, fudge or something sweet like that, drastically reduced piney smell and no ethanol
Much more enjoyable in a standard glass, though I think I still prefer to sip something else and mix Jameson with ice, ginger ale and a squeeze of lime. Just a reminder to explore and experiment with your whiskeys.

I just had Dalmore 12, and did the whole Paterson's thing. It was pretty good.

>>13490463
Tried Dewar's 12 year. Got a bottle for 26 bucks canadian, and it's at least twice as good as that. Has no business being this good.

Okay wow, wild turkey 101 tastes noticeably different from the Maker's Mark I had before. Actually kind of like it. Though I don't know why or what about it I like and what other whiskey I should be looking at now.
Here's a ranking of the ones I've tried so far
WT101 >>> Maker's >> Ballantines Finest >> Connemara

Just got a bottle of this since I've never tried it

Any insights before I hop in?

>>13527682
Just tried it. Not that impressive, but for 20$ it's nice
WT in general is a good price/value proposition in general.

>>13528073
Depends where you're at. Here it costs more than several 12 year old Speysides.
Then it comes down to the question of do you value more alcoholic beverages proportionally more? I don't think I do. That said I would never dilute whiskey so I'm not actually reclaiming the supposed value.

>>13495556
You seem to like barrel proof. Booker's is beam, Stagg is buffalo, fairly different houses of whiskey makers. Try some bib's (relatively cheap actually, but by and large good stuff) or you can chase barrel proofs, which generally start getting comparatively pricey
>>13496593
I like Buffalo, it may hold up at a lower proof. If it's cheap, and you don't like it, coke is a good mixer. Haven't had Turkey in years, need to grab a bottle.
>>13501290
I've got a library of whiskey, 30-50 bottles open (haven't counted in months). I travel a lot, visit liquor stores, and try to sample everything as I get it, and will pick up a second bottle if I enjoy it and it isn't an easy find. Did get 2 bottles of knob 16yo barrel proof untasted because it was $45, and barrel proof and 16yo and it is fucking great. Also, I revisited a rye I bought maybe 4 years ago. Either my palate has changed, or the oxygen did magical things to that juice. It is damned good, going to have to look for Darby's reserve next time I'm in SC.
>>13503432
I'll put ice in if I damned well please. It can help tame stoke of the brighter alcohol notes.
>>13503542
Certainly. It's a hodgepodge of what can and can't be added. Bourbon, you know you're getting distillate and water. No flavoring, no coloring.
>>13504011
Bernhiem's or larceny are both wheated like maker's. I find maker's too one note though.
>>13506320
If you're in Europe, good luck. States have lots of fine, cheaper bourbon
>>13507199
How can you watch that guy? He just looks retarded as hell anytime someone else is talking.

>>13526416
Just use an old bottle. That's what I've been doing

>>13527665
You may like higher rye whiskeys. Try an old overholt, bib if you can, regular if you can't. It's a good mixer if all else fails.

Jack and coke on the rocks... not a drink as good as that LOL!

>>13527682
>>13527665
My favorite bourbon comes from WT. It's the russels reserve single barrel

Is this any good as an entry into rye? The price is very attractive.

>>13497466

Don't ask us if it's good if you already own a bottle. Taste it, and then share what you came up with yourself.

>>13497492
You should try the 21. I've got a bottle right now, and it's damn fine. Unusually inexpensive compared to other 21s as well.

liquid banana

are there any indian spirits? the asian indians. they like whiskey but is there anything predating the british?