/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13428744

I wasn't impressed with my mom's when I was home for Christmas. It couldn't mix challah dough so I just did it by hand.

>>13428744
they were marked down like 50% over christmas. i think people are not buying

>>13428744
You quite literally can make everything this meme is doing by yourself if you just spend 5-10 minutes more, you lazy mong

>>13428744
>>be me
>>be yuropoor
Spend the extra money and get a small Hobart mixer with the accessories. Maintain it properly and your grandchildren will never have to buy a new mixer. That's well worth the $2600 if you ask me.

>>13428796
neck yourself, kike

>>13428744
we've had ours for 25 years and it's never had a problem. use it all the time.

>>13428744
I just got one for Christmas
Europoors can't even compete!

kenwood are pretty good.
btw the kitchen aid mixer that tilt are trash.
Buy the one that rises the whole top.

>>13428827
It's a shame you're such poorly programmed AI, you had potential.

>>13428744
We know OP, that's why you buy a factory refurb for $350 max.

>>13428744
you can look in thrift stores for older models, the cheaper ones tend to have plastic gears that wear over time

>>13428796
yuros can barely afford food though

>>13428950
Wrong

>>13428748
>(((I))) wasn't impressed with American manufacturing

Had ours for 32 years. Still works

>>13429259
looks like a slop o shit

>>13428796
>A household stand mixer is well worth $2600
Lmao

>>13429614
I'm just joking around bro, those are made for serious production. I worked as a baker and I used that exact mixer daily, as well as their large mixer,

>>13428744
>Any other, rip-off brands or whatever that I can get for cheaper?
Ankarsrum on sale.

>>13429708
Looks like something you'd use in a prison cafeteria. I love Hobart though. The T34 of mixers.

>>13428748
You don't know how to use it then. I make all my bread dough in mine.

>>13428796
>wire guard so you can't pour ingredients in while it's running
It's shit.

>>13428744
Become rich like Americans and you can stop seething and buy a mixer

>>13430083
Literally just spin the guard a little bit so there is an opening to pour you brainlet.

>>13430097
>paying upwards of two thousand dollars to have pointless busywork added for no reason
Miss me with that shit homo

>>13428744
>better design
>better quality
>not American machinery that will break down after 6 months
If you're gonna dump upwards of €500 on one, go with an Ankarsrum instead. A bit pricier but at least you get a better quality product.

>>13430104
Wish ingredient wouldn't fit through that wire guard?

It's so expensive because it has a total lifetime warranty. That's an incredibly valuable thing to have since you'll literally never have to buy one again. Though I'm not sure if you would ever need to use it. Mine has been in my family for like 30+ years and it runs like new

>>13428744
I bought the professional model which is superior to that style for $320 at Sam's a couple years ago.

>>13428744
People wait until they are on sale, but I think they're like $350 regular price here. I just can't see myself needing an industrial grade stand mixer. I just make one batch of stuff at a time, so I can easily manually mix things or use a hand mixer.

Why are zoomers so lazy? Are you that incapable of making slugh by yourself?
For pretty much everything else, a regular cheap mixer is enough

Why are zoomers so lazy? Are you that incapable of making dough by yourself?
For pretty much everything else, a regular cheap mixer is enough

>>13428744
bought my mom kitchen aid few years ago shes very happy

>>13430083
>t. pic related
Humans use tools.

>>13431100
I still use my mom's hand mixer from the 80's. Still Runs like a beast, although I wish it's lowest setting wasn't so fast to kicks a cloud of flour

>>13428744
M A R K E T I N G

>>13431253
I love the electric smell from the brushes on those machines. Smells like, dead family.

>>13431398
Was gonna post similar. It's not worth 500 fun bucks, especially if that price is before accessories. One of the main reasons to pay the premium is so that you have one device that is widely supported with a range of accessories, at a reasonable quality (a normal home cook should ever need to replace one of those, they're good enough to last a long time).

But I know from some family that euros really love their appliances, so you can probably find better quality there from some other brand for the price.

>>13431572

Don't EVER buy the attachments to this shitbox. I have a 6qt drop down Kitchenaid and it's amazing. Never buy anything else from that shitbox company.

They're only worth it on sale, in the US at least they go for about $150-200 for low end models on sale, and about $350-400 for the professional models on sale.

>>13430161
cold butter.

>>13431580
If that's all you have what grounds do you have to say not to buy the accessories?

If you bought it just to be a mixer and never use the output shaft you fucked up, that's half the reason the fucking things are worth anything. Otherwise buy some shitty stand mixer and call it a day.

If you meant KitchenAid's other products, then no, they're not the greatest. Other than the mixers+accessories they're a mid or low tier brand.

>>13431633
>I cant chop butter in pieces

>>13431585
Pretty much. Bought a 5qt for a good price when I baked a lot, but I'd buy a 6qt if I needed another one, the 5 qt just needs a bit more room to handle 2 full 3cups flour cake batters. Also got the grinder on sale, used to use it to grind chickpeas for falafel but a food processor does it just as well. Now only use it to make ham salad because the plastic will supposedly break if you use it for actual meat grinding, they don't even come with the fine grind die anymore.

>>13428744
>you can mix shit
Why are you talking like an African-American?

>>13431833
mad?

>>13428744
KitchenAid mixers are:
a) fucking expensive, at least here in Europe
b) not as good and durable as they used to be (in the last few decades they started to go cheap on certain components to remain competitive against China made products).
Every smart person in Europe who isn't a show-off buys Kenwood.
I bought a Chef XL mixer a few years ago during black friday for less than 400 euros and it's really great.

>>13431722
ok dipshit, I'll start you off by comparing the pasta roller that costs upwards of $220 compared to an Atlas150. Heres the hint, idiot, one is a piece of shit.

>>13431868
>not as good and durable as they used to be
They still make the older, reliable models. It's just harder to find them.
Look for a lift-bowl and a DC motor, traditionally indicated by a silver speed knob instead of black (does not apply to the Artisan series).

>>13428796
Have my grandmother's Kitchenaid, it's running just fine. I only use it about once a week now but it spent most of its life being used daily. Only thing I've had to fix is the speed selector which I got off Ebay for $15.

Only time you should buy a Hobart is if you're getting the floor mixer. That thing is a fucking beast.

>>13431885
Slicer, grater, pasta roller, pasta press, and meat grinder can all be had for under 50 a piece, some off-brand some kitchenaid brand. But please, continue cherry picking some ebay prices, you're making yourself look suuuper intelligent. More name calling, too. I think it's working.

My point was that they have a wide aftermarket, kinda like a Honda civic. Lots of brands make lots of accessories because they are THE stand mixer.

>>13428759
Idiot, they were marked up 200% for Christmas.
>>13431937
This. One of those would turn you into pudding and not leave a fucking scratch on it.

>>13431937
You should probably get some sewing machine oil for the insides if you don't already.

>>13431633
You know the guard can move freely while the mixer is operating, right?

>>13432553
>>13430104

>>13431580
Do you have 4 santoku knives?

>>13430097
Based yuropoor nanny state bullshit

>>13432832
seethe

>>13431633
I've never actually experienced a need to put in whole sticks of cold butter

what recipes are you making where it's necessary?

>>13430155
I want one of these so bad I hate scraping the bowl

>>13431580
I have a kitchenaid immersion blender that's pretty based

>>13428744
it's actaully made in the USA

>>13428748
>>christmas
>>challah

>>13428744
Good tools cost money.

>>13428744
my ABSOLUTE unit
You have those things attached to your torso called ARMS. If babushka with her 80 years behind her and with shaky hands can do it, you should too. Its fun, it gives you more insight how the dough should look, how it feels etc, so you learn also its a good in long run workout too. Back to robots: these things are very prone to break, especially the plastic parts, overpriced for their power, and just a dust collector in most times. Also never fall for the multifunctional meme, it always brings disaster. I'm not saying to do everything by hand, but I can safely say unless you think of industrial grade things, these will often end up being a complete waste of money. Buy a hand mixer like >>13431100 a simple tefal one lasts long as fuck, not to mention modern ones are super lightweight.

>>13431946
Show me where you can get that, JUST the pasta roller for 50 bucks. I fucking dare you.

Besides that, they're all garbage and you can't control the speed of the roller like you can by hand.. Send me the fucking link to a 50 dollar kitchenaid pasta roller, asshole.

>>13428744
Just use your arms and knead like they did before stand mixers, or use a hand mixer for larger quantities of liquid and eggs

>>13432563
No, I have around 15 actually. Bought them for 2 bucks each to be used as christmas gifts. I gave one to my best friend and he ended up in the emergency room with a thumb cut to the bone. Decided not to give them to anyone.

>>13435111

That's great when you do it "once in a while". When you actually make bread all the time it's bullshit.

>>13435111
Here's your every day recipe..

White Bread - 4 loaves

1040grams flour
6 tsps yeast
4 tbsps sugar
1 1/3 tbsp salt
3 1/3 cups water
80 grams butter

>>13435131
I use the heart attachment until I add enough flour to make it thick, then I switch to the hook. about 15 minutes of beating all included.

Just buy like a 200 euro one

>>13435111
I've always done everything by hand and because of this find no fault whatsoever with someone wanting power appliances. The thing the other guy said about working dough manually helping you get a better feel for it and producing better results is probably true though. Only automate tasks you've already mastered.

>>13435150
No one just takes the dough from the bowl and slaps it in the pans. You need to flour, cut and knead the dough a bit before you pan them. You ALWAYS get a feel for the dough before it's cooked.

>>13435111
>>13435084
>>13431100
Fuck off, boomers

made in Germany, coming through

>>13436912
>made in France, coming through
FTFY
I have an older Thermomix TM31 and a Magimix Cook Expert and prefer the Magimix.

On the mixer front, I prefer Kenwood or Ankarsrum ones to KitchenAid’s Artisan line but I have never tested their bigger models.
Otherwise try to find a pro one like a Robot Coupe, Dito Sama, Matfer, etc.

>>13437001
Oh, and Kenwood has a pasta extruder with proper bronze dials if that’s something of interest to you.

>>13436912
>made in Germany

>>13437047
Is naling homemade pasta hard and does it turn out good? I've never ate pasta that wasn't dried and bought from the store and I really wanna buy one of those robots but I cant justify paying 500 euros or so just for a glorified mixer and for making the occasional dough now and then so being able to make good pasta might actually convince me

>>13428744
kitchen aids are great but the fact they dont come with all the attachments for 300 dollars is crazy to me. I bought one during black friday and i personally love it but realistically you can do everything it can do by hand and it only exists for convenience. i would only ever buy one once you have a pretty stocked kitchen in terms of tools and equipment

>>13428744
i have some kitchenaid stuff. i was cautious at the beginning because american made stuff is usually regarded as subpar here in switzerland. the kitchenaid stuff turned out to be quite good though

>>13439815
It's easy to make.. I'll post my recipe. Homemade Pasta Recipe
Yield: 1 1/4 lbs dough
Prep Time: 1 hour 15 minutes
Total Time: 1 hour 15 minutes
Ingredients:
• 3 1/2 cups all-purpose unbleached flour, sifted (plus extra flour for preparing)
• 1/2 teaspoon salt
• 4 large eggs, beaten
• 2 Tablespoons water
Directions:
1. Place eggs, water, flour and salt in mixer bowl. Attached bowl and flat beater. Turn to speed 2 and mix for 30 to 60 seconds. Add more water if the dough is too dry, in 1/2 Tablespoon increments.
2. Change out the flat beater for the dough hook. Turn to speed 2 and knead for 2 minutes. Remove the dough and knead by hand for 2 minutes. Let it rest for 20 to 30 minutes.
3. Cut dough into four pieces before processing with pasta sheet attachment. Take one piece and flatten into a rectangular shape. Adding flour to both sides. Be sure to cover the other pieces. Attach the pasta sheet roller to your stand mixer and set it to #1. Turn on the stand mixer to speed 2 and run the pasta dough through the pasta sheet roller. While on #1, fold the dough in half and run it through again. I do this several times.
4. Adding a little bit of flour on each side of the dough again, change setting to #2 and pass the pasta dough through the sheet roller. I do this twice and then twice each on #3 and then #4. If you want thicker dough, don't do the #4 setting.
5. Once again, add flour to each side of your long pasta sheet. Change the attachment to your spaghetti or fettuccine cutter and turn on to speed 2. Run the pasta sheet through and with your left hand, hold on to the pasta as it comes through the cutter. It's usually really long so I cut it and then wind it around my hand to create a nest. Allow pasta to dry for a few minutes before boiling.
6. When boiling your pasta, it only needs 3 to 7 minutes to boil.
7. With this pasta recipe, I prefer the fettuccine cutter.
Notes:

>>13439815
I have a kitchenaid but I usually only make @ 200g pasta so I just mix in a bowl and knead by hand.
>225g "00" flour
>75g semolina
>3 eggs
>1 Tbs evoo
Make a well in a large bowl with flour. Add eggs and evoo to middle. Use a fork slowly working flour into eggs. When it comes together turn out to floured sueface and knead 8 minutes. Let rest covered 30 minutes.

>>13439815
There is no need for a mixer to make pasta. You can easily mix and knead it by hand. Rolling it out thin enough with a rolling pin takes some effort but is doable. Make it a few times to see if making it at home is something you really want to keep doing then consider a pasta roller.

>>13440545
If you're a pointless gimp that needs to hand fuck everything yeah, there's no need for anything. Rub a rock on your ass to clean your shit off of it.

>>13440545
If you want to make anything other than flat pasta you'll need some sort of extruder.
There are manual ones though.

>in production for 90 years
Swallow your pride and buy a used one, Europoor

>>13440568
Shelling out for a $500 mixer to make something you've never tried to make is silly. That's how people end up with a ton of small appliances and gadgets that sit around collecting dust after a few uses.

>>13441613
based sensible consumer