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13382908 No.13382908 [Reply] [Original]

Why is whiskey so expensive?

>> No.13382923

Because you aren't buying cheap whiskey, faggot

>> No.13383099

dilate

>> No.13383118
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>>13382908
capitalism.

artificial need created by brands that manufacture desire for virtually identical products. Drink vodka, comrade, the spirit of the revolution.

>> No.13383126

Taxes

>> No.13383131

>>13383118
Yikes

>> No.13383137

>>13382908
Oak is going extinct

>> No.13383208

>>13383137
What type of oak

>> No.13383219

>>13382908
Whiskey isnt expensive, you just posted the most expensive variation of an already extremely expensive whiskey.

Why is Whistlepig so expensive despite being mostly Alberta Premium and MGP rebottled? Because people pay for it

>> No.13383238

>>13383219
what's a legit whiskey that won't cost you your whole paycheck?

>> No.13383241

>>13382908
Because you picked the meme ones that retards buy.
If you want decent bourbon for cheap stick to Wild Turkey that's not their special editions.

>> No.13383248

>>13383238
Probably independently bottled scotch that was sourced from
>Ben Nevis
>Ardmore
>Bunnahabhain
>Benrinnes
as single cask releases. All range from good to fucking bonkers good.

>> No.13383311

>>13383238
Alternative to Whistlepig, go for Rittenhouse.

>> No.13383314

>>13383248
any particular brands i can buy at costco

>> No.13383346

>>13383241
Wild Turkey 101 is like $40 man

>> No.13383375

>>13383346
what commie hellhole do you live in? a handle is like 33 bucks in texas

>> No.13383397
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>>13382908
It doesn't have to be.

>> No.13383426

>>13383375
I'm in Virginia and a handle is $51 dollars right now on sale. It's been way more expensive than normal here for like a year now and I'm sick of it.

>> No.13383441

>>13383426
Yeah, I moved from VA to TX, the ABC sucks, but allegedly the previous vote to keep it just barely passed and the next one will likely fail

of course, that also means that taxes on everything else will go up, and even more toll roads.

>> No.13383445

>>13383238
Makers mark
Evan Williams
Woodford

>> No.13383448

>>13383314
No. Costco only carries basic shit. They have some stuff from Alexander Murray that are cheap but they're usually shit casks.
Go to a legit liquor shop and look for Cadenhead's, Adelphi or A.D. Rattray picks.

>> No.13383465

>>13383238
Knob Creek
Bulleit
Four Roses
Wild Turkey

>> No.13383600

>>13383397
He asked for whiskey not vanilla flavored piss

>> No.13383608

>>13382908

Because as it sits in a barrel, it evaporates, and you're left with less and less product that's spent more and more time not making money.

Also tariffs and other distribution related costs.

>> No.13383610

>>13383238
>legit whiskey that won't cost you your whole paycheck
Never mind how poor you are when choosing a nicer whiskey
Anything without a teen age isnt worth even buying for starters unless it's for mixing drinks

>> No.13384021

>>13382908
The overhead in storing barrels in a warehouse for several years, use your brain dingus.

>>13383610
yikes

>> No.13384177

>>13382908
Well for one, whiskey needs to be aged for a few years minimum. Secondly, the process through which they distill, their grain bill, and the size of land, cost of machinery all adds up.

Whiskey is more expensive than something like, say, Vodka, because Vodka is far easier to make and faster to produce.

>> No.13384196

>>13383375
It's called the United Kingdom. You niggers don't realise how much subsidies you get on your bourbon.
I'm buttmad because every newfag whiskey guide on the planet "helpfully" recommends buying cheap bourbon that isn't, in fact, cheap.

>> No.13384198

>>13383238
If it's bottom-shelf you're after:

>Four Roses
>Heaven Hill
>Evan Williams White Label
>Wild Turkey (either the regular or 101)

Stay away from Jack Daniels or Jim Beam unless you want to share, since they're both extremely basic, almost watery in taste.

>> No.13384202
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>>13383118
>spirit of the revolution

comrade Vodka was owned by the Czar orginally the Bolsheviks fully supported prohibiton and the destruction of it only Stalin brought it back to make people easy to control

>> No.13384204

>>13384196
>It's called the United Kingdom. You niggers don't realise how much subsidies you get on your bourbon.

I have a friend in Denmark, a bottle of Knob Creek goes for 60 fucking dollars over there, I cringed hard. The US also gets a minor increase in the cost of scotch, and Irish, but nothing like Bourbon price bumps.

If it's any consolation, Wild Turkey 101 tastes like it's almost worth 40$.

>> No.13384209

>>13384202
>brought it back to make people easy to control

More like "because he loved to drink it"

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>>13383600
You fucking boaster.
You braggart.
You literal big talker.
You absolute lip-flapper, blackguard, blatherskite, gascon, scoundrel, villain, knave, jaw-jacker, gravy-trainer, tall-talker and gas-bag nigger.

Come to me ANY DAMN TIME you like and I PROMISE YOU I will OUT-QUAFF YOU AND ALL YOUR FRUITY FELLOWS.

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>>13384209
>the soviet command likes something
>so they make it legal for everyone

Are...are you fucking retarded? Vodka was borught back and made cheap because it kept people too drunk to rebel

>> No.13384228

>>13384222
Are you? Alcohol doesn't make people easier to control you dimwitted dipshit, least of all russians.

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>>13384228
oh yeah because so many people where rising up against Stalin

the vodka controlled by the state being made cheap and easy to aquire tottally wasnt to make the people focused on getting drunk instead of their shitty lives tottally

>> No.13384340

>>13382908
Its not really more expensive than other popular brown liquors like Congac. You just posted a renowned and expensive whiskey.

>> No.13384346

>>13384238
That must be really hard on the dog's ears.
Guns are loud, man.

>> No.13384350
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>>13382908
For the same reason that Boyhood is the best movie ever.

>> No.13384615

>>13383238
Most of them unless you earn less than 100 bucks a month

>> No.13384630

>>13384222
Then it made people too drunk to work and Gorby had to make it super expensive, kek.

>> No.13384646

>>13384198
Jack has a strong taste.

>> No.13384930

>>13382908
It's a luxury good with a vice tax. Also it's hard (or illegal) to make well.

>> No.13385028

>>13383238
No joke old grandad is probably best bang for your buck

>> No.13385116

>>13383238
Wild Turkey 101 without a doubt. punches way above its belt and i can get a liter for like $20.

>> No.13385502

>>13383238
Mellow Corn

>> No.13385538

liquor exists to get you drunk and quickly and as possible. all of it tastes like absolute garbage so spending money on expensive liquor is retarded

>> No.13385558

>>13383314
My Costco has some GREAT whiskies. Ignore the hipster moron who told you they only have "basic shit.:

My Costco had the following on my last visit:

- Laphroaig 10 ~$37
- Lagavulin 16 ~$55
- Oban 14 ~$55
- Woodford Reserve Double Oaked ~$37
- Four Roses Single Barrel ~$37
- Redbreast 12 ~$37

These are all excellent whiskies at fantastic prices.

>> No.13385791

>>13385538
yeah, this is big brain time

>> No.13385913

>>13382908
in myocal liquor store i always wanted to try shntory but it's fucking $89- found suntory toki in a gift set w a glass and woodem holder for only $35, it's a bit bottle i'm very happy
それはおいしいいそう

>> No.13386791

>>13382908
Because pretentious retards

>> No.13387290

>>13385538
It's like paying to get shot with a sniper, or paying to get shot with a bigger sniper rifle.
You can't tell the difference after you die from it.

>> No.13387488

>>13383600
>He asked for whiskey not vanilla flavored piss
The barrels used to age that vanilla flavored piss are resold to European distilleries. It's why their stuff has a whiff of STALE vanilla flavored piss.

>> No.13387570

>>13384346
>dog

>> No.13387575

>>13383219
Whistlepig stopped rebottling years ago dude they only sold Alberta Premium because their in-house spirit was still aging.

>> No.13387581

>>13383118
i really thing these faggots plan is to cringe everyone else to death

>> No.13387584

>>13384196
>subsidies
retard, they're tariffs

>> No.13387613

>>13387584
Doesn't the US sink tonnes of money into corn farmers n shit?

>> No.13387670

God held in his cummies until it hardened and made a peepee cummy poop on my tummy.

>> No.13387834

>>13387613
that's for bourbon then, not whiskey

>> No.13388062
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>>13383118
I’ve seized the means of vodka production, you should too.

>> No.13388071

>>13384213
Never fuck with Jack Macintosh the Whisky King

>> No.13388420

>>13383610
I disagree with you, since Lagavulin 8yo is pretty good.

>> No.13388443

>>13388062
I saved a couple pics one of the other times you posted. How much does a set up like yours run and how much heavy diy (like welding) is involved?

>> No.13389560

>>13388443
About $500 Australian, $600 if you include the water flow regulator. But that also includes the fermenter, ingredients for your first batch, flavours/essences etc.
The kit’s complete, it’s plug and play. Still model is a Still Spirits T500.

>> No.13389571

So what’s everyone’s favorite drink? 3 shots Wild Turkey 101, 1 and 1/2 shots of lemon juice and simple syrup each and in golden. About one every hour until I fall asleep and forget watching a gbu get dropped onto an Afghan hut as children run outside to greet the ied laying bastard we wanted to smoke.

>> No.13389577

>>13384350
Is that the stupid movie where they actually waited for the kid to grow up?

>> No.13389590

>>13387834
>You niggers don't realise how much subsidies you get on your bourbon.

>> No.13389660

>>13389571
You’ll never ‘forget’ that, anon. Instead, think of it this way:
1. Their deaths were painless and instantaneous.
2. IED’s maim and mutilate, they’re fucking evil.
3. Bomb making/laying in Afghanistan is a trade passed from father to son, their deaths saved dozens, if not hundreds of people from horrible injuries and deaths.
4. When towelheads aren’t IED’ing peacekeeping forces, they’re doing it to each other over tribal bullshit or religious dogma.
You need to forgive yourself. Sometimes an evil is a bargain to neutralise a greater evil down the road.

>> No.13389682

>>13389660
I’m hey thanks anon, seriously. I’m a very rational and pragmatic person and before that I’d have the same mentality. But no amount of rationalizing can get me to escape the guilt of being in the kill chain approving a bomb dropping onto a couple of kids. It’s not debilitating or anything, but definitely changed me as a person. Even if it’s the right thing to do I think taking a human life starts a lot of self questioning in a person whether they admit it or not.

>> No.13389687

>>13389577
Yeah, that's the joke; it took twelve years to make.

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>>13387570
>being new

>> No.13389701
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>>13389571
this little bastard is the best thing you're can get in 35ºC brazilian heat.

1 ½ shot of cachaça
one lime (sliced)
2 teaspoons of sugar
mash the lime and sugar in a lowball glass, add the cachaça and ice.

tastes like you're getting a wet blowjob and you don't even need to use high-quality cachaça.

>> No.13389705

>>13389701
>you* can get
fix'd

>> No.13389745

>>13389590
sorry i'm illiterate

>> No.13389749

>>13389697
>being reddįt

>> No.13390010

>>13389571
>>13389660
>>13389682

Well that was dark. I’ll drink to you tonight mister drone bombing guy.

>> No.13390035

>>13387290
You're gonna die some day either way bud.

>> No.13390900

>>13389682
Shit m8, that’s why it’s a chain. Ultimately if there’s a fuckup, it’s a systemic failure, not your fault.
I’ve bracketed a half dozen or so and I sleep just fine, because I’ve seen Terry Towelhead send those same fucking kids out with mobile phones for command det. I can’t speak for the world, but I understand and absolve you.

>> No.13390920

There's cheap decent whiskey. The one that gets me is tequila. I usually settle for Montezuma because fuck paying 25 bucks for the second cheapest thing.

>> No.13390941

>>13387575
Yeah, now they're sourcing MGP. Big fucking difference

>> No.13390966

i bought a handle of vodka for $20 today. why do whiskeyfags pay extra for bad tasting impurities?

>> No.13391007

>>13383126
this is why I hate faggots that get triggered when list cost doesn't include tax, because when they can hide it into the cost the taxes go through the roof. federal tax is $13.50/gallon and then the state has their own often much higher rate, and the usa is on the bottom end in terms of taxing out the nose for this type of shit. but almost every good goy itt is talking about basically everything else as to why it costs so much

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>>13389590
>subsidies for alcohol
LOL no it's just instead of making it 3/4th tax, it's only 40% or whatever depending on the state

>> No.13391081

>>13385558
nikka 50 dollars is a lot to be spending on a little bottle of whiskey

>> No.13391089

>>13391017
why are eurokeks so enslaved by their governments

>> No.13391302

>>13389701
Now I'm curious to find out what a dry blowjob feels like.
Actually, I'm not that curious.

>> No.13391318

>>13391089
Think about it this way: In Burgerland, some people are born more free than others. If you're born rich you can simply do a lot more than someone born working-class. You have the freedom to get good healthcare whenever the fuck you want. You have the freedom to never need to get a part time job in university, to get psychiatrical support over every little thing, to pursue your dream job no matter how stupid because if you fuck up mummy and daddy will be there to help you. A working-class faggot does not have these freedoms. But! He does get to decide how to spend what shitty amount of money he does have.
Eurokeks still have some people born with more freedom than others, but they put effort into equalising it. They put effort into letting working class niggers have the freedom to get healthcare whenever they want, to get whatever university degree they want, but they do take away some of their freedom to spend their money however they want. It's not called a nanny state for nothing. The downside of this (if you don't see the money thing as a downside already) is that they can and will overstep themselves into morality, e.g. porn passes etc. OTOH so does the US so lmao

>> No.13391324

>>13384350
>it took 12 years to make
Bourbon is best at 7-9 years though

>> No.13391357
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>>13391324
>he doesn't drink 25 year old bourbon

>> No.13391529

>>13391081
A 750 ml bottle of whisky is about 17 drams worth. That's 17 different evenings you get to sit and slowly enjoy a dram over 30-60 minutes.
Is $50 really so much for that?

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>>13388062

That's like a toastmaster 6000. They sell those in Australia, right?

>> No.13391540

>>13391532
Toastmasters? No. Australia doesn’t really have a grand moonshining tradition (we’ve had a very strong home brewing scene though, even when home brewing was illegal).

>> No.13391552

>>13391540
I don't know the fucking name, it's the boozecreator 2000. Give me a minute.

https://stillspirits.com/products/turbo-500-still

The turbo still 500. I always see this piece of shit advertised in an aussie accent.

>> No.13391570

>>13391552
>Designed and assembled in New Zealand
Anon...

>> No.13391590

>>13391570

There you go, down in Dark Countries. You think anyone thinks Australia and New Zealand aren't the same creature in the rest of the world? We don't think of you much and when we do, we think of you superficially.

>> No.13391623

>>13391590
Don't lie to me, neckbeard. Your kind takes pilgrimage to our country to worship the ground of a film series which really wasn't that good. You can't get enough of us.

>> No.13391629

>>13391623

Dude, you dress like Irish Gardai, drive on the left and fuck sheep. You're a depressing thing I think about in the southern apex. You couldn't even grow up enough to split from the home country. Drive on the fucking right, you children. I'm not even kidding, I see you has a kindergarten.

>> No.13391711

Expensive scotch generally has a very noticeable power gap from cheap scotch.

Bourbon on the other hand there’s no fucking reason dishing out for anything but the mid-tier stuff as all the expensive ones are never worth it because the quality gap is marginal.

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>>13382908
Taxes, mostly.

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>>13391629
>Dude, you fuck sheep
You write that like it's a bad thing.

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I'm running low on my usual 80proof brandy. If I drink just a little bit of this(shot or two. Or 3.) Will I die or get a brain injury? Does this have flouride in it?

>> No.13392034

Please help.

>> No.13392036

>>13387613
They do, but that's because """"environmentalists"""""" wanted the U.S. to stop using oil. so they pushed for adding ethanol to gasoline. And then the farmers started lobbying for increased subsidies and increased usage, to the point that the amount of ethanol is damaging the engines.

And of course because ethanol has only half the energy content per unit volume that long-chain hydrocarbons have, that means you emit EVEN MORE CO2 than you would have if you didn't use ethanol at all. And that's not even counting the emissions from planting, growing, harvesting, and distilling the ethanol.

I was sad as fuck in the 2016 election campaign when Trump went to Iowa to gather support ahead of the Iowa primary, and he talked about how great ethanol subsidies are. Fuck. Not that he was any different from the Democrats, and of course he would have lost badly and never made it to the presidency if he hadn't pandered to those worthless leeches, but it would have been nice to have him explain basic economics to them.

>> No.13392054

>>13392026
Please help. Also remember. My life is in your hands.

>> No.13392068

>>13392036
corn support is because corn can/is usually grown EVERYWHERE, takes VERY LITTLE WATER(muh water bills/cities need that water not your town/community/farms) and is STILL being used for Sugar production(not that efficient), fuel production(not that efficient as fuel/BUT VERY GOOD AS ANTIFREEZE for said fuel), has very good silo storage ability/cattle value, and it doesn't destroy the soil as much as growing ONLY POTATOES did to Idaho and such.

Also only farmers currently getting useful amnts of money from these bail outs are those who are friends of the state and large corporations.

>> No.13392156

>>13391629
The overwhelming majority of people are right-eye dominant, making driving on the left far safer.
We drive on the correct side. You drive on the French side (the French go on the right so as to prevent people from being able to strike each other in passing).
You stick to the cheese-eating surrender monkey side, and I’ll stick to the safe and logical one.

>> No.13392240

>>13392156
Driving on the left was done so you could wield a sword on a roman road with your right hand to attack people. Right eye dominant. Fuck off.

>> No.13393046

>>13392240
>retard doesn't know what ocular dominance is
lol

>> No.13393102

>>13383346
$40 is piss cheap
Get a job, neetcel.

>> No.13393126

>>13391529
For drunkard poorfags on /ck/ who down a handle of $12 Old Crow every weekend it is. They dont care about enjoying whiskey, they just wanna get hammered for cheap like boomer degenerates.

>> No.13393456

>>13391357
Jap whiskey any good?

>> No.13393490

>>13383448
Adelphi are a blender/bottler. Their stuff is blended and sourced. Now I'm confused.

>> No.13393561

>>13393046
Ocular dominance doesn't influence driving. I couldn't find a single study that showed a significant advantage in driving.

>> No.13393570

>>13393456
It's mostly young blended sourced scotch. The stuff that isn't sourced is young. They're light, alcoholic, honey and floral. Overpriced.

>> No.13393603

>>13383610
Buy the memes is what I hear you saying.

>> No.13393610

>>13385028
Stop telling people the truth, goddammit.

>> No.13393620

>>13390966
Enjoy your vodka mate. I'll enjoy my whiskey.

>> No.13393629

>>13391324
Depends on how it's made, really. And fuck the 25 year age statement, it's a rare bourbon that can survive that long

>> No.13393646

Just wait for the bourbon boom to die out.
The prices right now are just outrageous because of hipster faggot demand.
>A whisky that officially should cost $30 is sold on average for $200

>> No.13393662

>>13382908
Get Buffalo Trace. That's the best I've found when it comes to reasonable price and taste. Some faggot is gonna be like HURR UR WRONG HERE'S THE TRUTH and if they do I'll give it a shot and hopefully be wrong but until then get Buffalo Trace.

>> No.13393671

>>13382908
you are getting poorer as the chinese get richer

>> No.13393688

Is Mellow Corn a meme

>> No.13393697

>>13393456
Yes and no. It used to be good for the price you were paying but Jap whiskey now is "in" and prices have soared way above what they're actually worth.

>> No.13393765

>>13393697
I blame pewdiepie

>> No.13394756

>>13393688
Worth trying for $15 a bottle. Nifty whiskey.

>> No.13394825

>>13389701
>1 ½ shot of cachaça
Double that if you are not a faggot.
>t.brazilian

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Is jack a good intro to whiskey?

>> No.13395298

>>13384177
This, but don't forget the labor element. Cost of labor explains why a 21 year old Scotch is 5 times the cost of a 21 year old rum like Ron Zacapa from Guatemala, even more so than the Angel's share.

>> No.13395340

>>13394837
there is no reason to start with jack over maker's mark, evan williams, buffalo trace, woodford reserve, or basically anything
jack is the johnny walker black of american whiskey

>> No.13395379

>>13382908
it's not in Japan
bottom shelf whisky's start at $9-ish a bottle.
most 12 year old whisky is about $12~15 worth.
You can get 18 year old chivas regal or johnnie walker for like $22.
honestly the main reason why so many people are alcoholics there.
well that plus the fact that whisky is marketed to go with fried chicken, so you just end up becoming a fat cunt from loading up on fried chicken and whisky highballs 3 nights a week after work.

>> No.13395381

>>13395379
to add, the reason being that they dont tax alcohol in japan.
they only tax the malt content of beer, which is why it's so relatively expensive there compared to hard liquor.

>> No.13395405

>>13385116
this
>>13394837
no.
get a bourbon, not that charcoal filtered shit.
try something this anon said >>13395340
personally i'd recommend wild turkey 101, evan williams single barrel, or basically any four roses.

>> No.13395477

>>13393102
I'm a student. desu at least I've not descended to drinking vodka mixed with orange squash.

>> No.13395771

>>13393697
I don’t think that’s as bad as the bourbon boom initiated by reddit hipster faggots. Bourbon which generally is low cost whisky, is now getting some of the most insane price increases because of these retards being willing to mortgage their houses to buy a bottle of Wellers