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A new book from David Nutt, Europe's foremost expert on neuropharmacology, claims that there really is no safe level of alcohol consumption, and the relative harm to health of daily or near daily alcohol drinking is greater than that of most illicit drugs.

>> No.13377880

>>13377869
I don't give a fuck

>> No.13377885
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13377885

>>13377869
>LIFE IS GREAT GUYS I WANT TO LIVE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE IT WILL BE SO FUN TO BE 100 YEARS OLD WHEN ALL OF MY FRIENDS ARE DEAD AND MY CHILDREN ARE SENIOR CITIZENS I TOTALLY WON'T REGRET SKIPPING OUT ON HAVING FUN IN MY FLEETING YOUTH SO I CAN LIVE AN EXTRA COUPLE OF YEARS!

>> No.13377890

>>13377885
Did you actually read the whole sentence? The book seems to be suggesting you ingest Ecstasy or smoke marijuana with friends instead of drinking alcohol.

>> No.13377897

>>13377885
The people with your mindset die unhappy and in pain at 55 while people who take care of themselves die happy in their sleep at 95.

>> No.13377904

>>13377869
I mean, autos kill more people than all those shit combined, so...

>> No.13377905

>>13377890
yeah cause fucking SMOKING and getting all fucked up on ecstasy and having risky sex is so much better than drinking.

>> No.13377906 [DELETED] 

>>13377890
>>13377897
>not wanting to die by age 30 gunning down marxist jews and niggers
unbased

>> No.13377919

>>13377906
You won't do shit pussy

>> No.13377920

>>13377890
>spelling E like that
Retard fucking boomer

>> No.13377931

>>13377906
>dying in your prime for racism

>> No.13377934

>>13377931
Racism is a virtue

>> No.13377952

>>13377897
my grandpa smoked two packs a day since his 20s and drank over the recommended amount of alcohol (ie 2 drinks per day) every single day and he lived to 87.

>> No.13377960

>>13377952
anecdotal evidence doesn't mean shit

>> No.13377975

>>13377952
And there are people who take care of themselves who die of cancer in their 20s.
As a general rule, the "I'm here for a good time not a long time" crowd isn't actually happy.

>> No.13377976

>>13377897
90 percent of people in nursing homes are suicidal

>> No.13377979

>>13377919
watch your mouth kike you ill gas you first

>> No.13377980
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13377980

Drinking always leaves me feeling shitty and hungover the next morning.

Even a single beer will leave me feeling dehydrated the next day.

Alcohol really is a poison and I feel sorry for people who drink it every day. It's being being duped by society into drinking a little bit of poison every day.

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13377983

>the chad unhealthy choices vs the virgin healthy choices
who wants to live forever LMAO

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13377992

>>13377980
w0t

>> No.13378047

>>13377976
Source?
People 65 and up are less likely to commit suicide than people 25-64.

>> No.13378050

>>13377980
Sucks to be you. I'll do a two-day bender every couple weeks and I never get hangovers. Bourbon and cokes on an empty stomach all day for two days straight. I get the urge out of my system, have some soup and water the next day, and I'm fine.

>> No.13378062

>>13378047
>Source?
His ass

>> No.13378063

>>13377980
If one beer makes you feel dehydrated the next day, you were probably dehydrated before you drank the beer.

>> No.13378067

>>13377869
I remember when Nutt got sacked.

>> No.13378072

Sounds like a cope book by a junkie trying to justify his degeneracy

>> No.13378075
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13378075

>>13378047

>> No.13378077

>>13377975
Those people are cynical and have such contempt for people older (and more mature) than them that they fear ever reaching that age.

>> No.13378078

>>13377869
Just another of a long line of tit-for-tat, back and forth controversy about alcohol.

Same model applies to cutting a baby's cock off because Jews can't advance past the Bronze Age.

>> No.13378087

>>13378075
Did you shop Pepe in there specifically so I couldn't reverse search it?

>> No.13378093

>>13378077
>than them
So close, esl. Maybe next time you wont be a fuck up.

>> No.13378097

>>13378093
Explain

>> No.13378108

>>13377869
who cares about what some fuckin nerd says about alcohol lmao

>> No.13378118

>>13378097
You're implicitly saying "...people older and more mature than they (are old and mature)...," not "...people older and more mature than them (is old and mature)"

>> No.13378124

>>13378097
He wants you to write this professionally. I'm guessing using "themselves" would placate him, but he's probably nitpicking, trying to find a flaw.

>> No.13378131

>>13378118
Interesting

>> No.13378135

>>13377869
yet moderate drinkers still live longer than abstainers

>> No.13378144

>>13377885
Oh it's you again, and you're STILL getting triggered because people question the shit lifestyle you chose to follow. You must be extremely unhappy.

>> No.13378147

>>13378124
Uh wrong. See >>13378118

>> No.13378155

Why has no one mentioned the livers ability to regenerate

>> No.13378170

>>13378108
based

>> No.13378183

>>13378047
>>13378062
i guess not necessarily suicidal, but just dont want to live anymore/look forward to dying. I volunteer in a couple old folks homes helping them with computer related stuff. I talk to them alot because they dont have families or no one comes to visit. i swear all of them that are 80 plus cant wait to die.

>> No.13378191 [DELETED] 

>>13377869
>le science
dropped

>> No.13378209

>>13377980
Lmao, what? I drank half a bottle of brandy and 2 tall boys last night and feel completely normal today. What's wrong with you, anon?

>> No.13378280

>>13377905
>risky sex on e
>Implying you have literally 0 self control

>> No.13378309

>>13377869
Life is horrible. Shortening it through drink is a rational choice.

>> No.13378318

>>13378047
>t. Never worked in a nursing home
You try killing yourself when you're under 24/7 supervision and can't manage to stand up to take a piss
They don't give them knives half the time

>> No.13378338

>>13377992
What?

>> No.13378344

>>13378135
you know what else makes you live longer? castrating yourself. severely restricting your caloric intake. cooling your core body temperature. its a retarded metric. these things all have the potential to lower your actual quality of life while increasing your amount of time spent on the planet.

>>13378155
because liver regeneration doesn't even apply to alcohol induced cirrhosis. alcohol specifically hurts the liver's ability to regenerate. you could damage a liver to the same degree using alcohol, physical damage, and hepatitis C and the alcoholic liver would be the slowest to heal (if it heals at all). alcohol also is one of the biggest causes of pancreatitis.

>> No.13378365

>>13378075
>white "male" suicide rate greater than 40%
if only

>> No.13378378

>>13378087
Yes I did

>> No.13378520

>>13377897
"happy"

>> No.13378537

>>13378050
I don't think you really understand what it means to go on a bender, desu. That's a good thing.

>> No.13378539

>>13377869
>there really is no safe level of alcohol consumption
We've known this for years. There are health benefits from alcohol consumption that we've recently learned about, but proof of its deleterious effects have been long since confirmed.
And I'm still getting blackout drunk tonight.

>> No.13378547

>>13378365
I like how you put the quotation marks around "male". It gives the impression that this is the keyword here, and that skin-colour is secondary to that. I can appreciate that kind of openminded acceptance.

>> No.13378555

>>13378118
"I don't know, CAN you go to the bathroom?" That's you.

>> No.13378558

>>13377869
>Europe's foremost expert on neuropharmacology

Lol

>> No.13378565

>>13378344
>alcohol induced cirrhosis
Bruh there's a few steps between "drinking" and "getting cirrhosis."

>> No.13378578

>>13378555
Fuck, I'm back in high school English class where the teacher would take marks off of projects for students who didn't raise their hand to answer questions in class.

>> No.13378616

>>13377885
>I TOTALLY WON'T REGRET SKIPPING OUT ON HAVING FUN IN MY FLEETING YOUTH SO I CAN LIVE AN EXTRA COUPLE OF YEARS!
he posts from his mother's basement on an anime forum attaching a picture of a balding man that he saves on his computer for this explicit reason

>> No.13378623

I dont fucking care i will still drink

>> No.13378768

>>13377905
This, but without the irony.

>> No.13378779

>>13377869
>book's thesis is that drinking is bad
who the fuck would bother reading this? what retard actually thinks drinking is good for you? even winos who cling to the "one glass of red win a day is good for your heart" don't REALLY believe it

>> No.13378902

>>13378365
Fuck you piece of shit kike fucking kill yourself tonight you will burn in hell for eternity for what you've done

>> No.13379201

>>13378365

Retard doesn't know how to read a line graph

>> No.13379203

>>13377980
>being duped by society into drinking a little bit of poison every day
we need to collect more taxes from citizens and a little bit of poison won't kill you

>> No.13379225

>>13377869
>David Nutt
>no coomer spam
Has the meme run dry?

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13379260

mfw the Muslims were right yet again

>> No.13379270
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13379270

>>13379260
Drink or beat your wife/dog/kids.

Tough choice

>> No.13379275

>>13379270
You're thinking of conservahicks

>> No.13379283

>>13377905
My D no work on E

>> No.13379423

>>13377980
damn, what a shape

>> No.13379431

>>13378093
Cringe

>> No.13379433

>>13377869
>Starting in around 2014, Nutt said he intends to bring to market a recreational drug which has the same effect as alcohol (ethanol) in humans (impacting the GABA receptor)[23] but does less physical harm; a safer replacement. He calls it "Alcarelle", but does not disclose the exact chemical(s).
PURE COINCIDENCE

>> No.13379669

>>13378555
*shits in the desk* "hurr durr yes ma'am :)"
That's you

>> No.13379895

>>13379270
>Drink or beat your wife/dog/kids.
Whynotboth.jpeg
At least, my father used to belt us into a coma

>> No.13379937

>>13378047
Try visiting one sometime
The day I'm unfit to take care of myself is the day I fucking die by any means necessary, you'll never see me locked up in one of those hellholes.

>> No.13379938

>>13379275
>or

>> No.13379947

>>13377869
Whatever the specifics of his book are, he's absolutely right. Consumption of alcohol in moderation is not a requirement for a fulfilling life. Moreover people tend toward consistency, so they end up redefining 'moderation' to larger quantities. People ought to never set the standard to drink more by not drinking at all, on principle.

>> No.13379968

>>13377905
I have turned down sex twice while fucked up on E, both times with thrashy chicks I didnt wanna fuck. you dont become a sex crazed moron.

>> No.13379978

>>13378050
Go on and in a few years you'll meet new pals: the fear, the shakes and the sweat.

>> No.13380002

>>13377885
This is unironically true. So many zoomers/young millennials are absolute pussies that never dare to have fun or step out of their comfort zone for one second. Once they have tolerated their pain of socialising for long enough to find a partner they will spend the rest of their lives indoors with their cat, playing video games and watching the newest Netflix show.

Of course they'd never go out drinking and have fun.

>> No.13380041

>>13378155
Wait, isnt that kidneys?

>> No.13380094

>>13379433
What a Jew.

>> No.13380120

>>13377869
Then he's unfortunately just wrong. It's been proven time and again low amounts of alcohol have health benefits that are not debatable. What these benefits are, are freely available on the internet.

>> No.13380139

>>13378318
"Epstein did it"

>> No.13380146

>>13380120
Except the largest meta analysis on the subject has conclusively shown no amount of alcohol has any benefits

>> No.13380234

>>13379937
Yep. I put an exit mask together for whenever that happens. I'm not holding out much hope for ending up with someone for the long haul, so whenever it is that I can't take care of myself anymore, I have a solution.

>> No.13380283

>>13380120
Are those benefits from the alcohol itself or simply the nutritional value of grape juice?