/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13354286
doesnt frying up a burg from frozen make it taste shitty?

>>13354295
Just about every chain casual restaurant goes from frozen to the broiler. The burgers stay cold (safe) longer and stay together better on the grill.

>>13354331
how long do they stay good for?

>>13354404
About 5-6 years

>>13354286
Top ten
Midnight snack threads of time

>>13354435
>5-6 years
>years
If they're vacuum packed, maybe

Is cooking at home a meme?
Nobody ever mentions the actual costs involved.
At best they'll give you an estimated cost of the ingredients, but they always leave out
price(s)
>of home
>electricity/gas
>cooking supplies
>dining supplies
>transportation
>cost of labor (you're own hourly wage)
>janitorial duties
You're not actually saving any money making your crappy amateur food at home over a professional restaurant if you think about it.

>>13356431
True, cooking is just a time sink and a hobby to try and make yourself more attractive to women

>>13354404
If they're cryovac'd, they'll stay stable for a long time, years, most likely. But most restaurants only order enough to not run out until the next delivery, so they're in the freezer a week or so at most. IIRC, shelf life tags give a year.

>>13354331
Nah they moved on to never frozen patties. There's really no need for them to have frozen patties in the first place since they have a fast turnaround from shipment to sale.

>>13356432
Going out to eat is more impressive though, and it could save you money.

>>13354286
>Stacker Patti
I wonder what she's up to these days. Working in Starbucks I'd imagine.

>>13354404
>>13354435
>>13356422
actually it depends on temperature they are stored in

>>13356438
Don't know where you've worked, but everywhere I've worked uses frozen because they're safer and cheaper for the distributor to handle, so they're cheaper at the unit level. Put enough shit on the burger and you can't tell if it's fresh or frozen.

Moe is not related.

>>13354286
i have no words to describe the disgust i feel towards americans

>>13356431
I know you're just shitposting, but restaurants have all of those and more in the price you pay.

>>13356459
Yet here you are, writing words.

>>13356455
I've worked at restaurants, and a couple of fast food joints as a teen.

>>13356482
I have never worked a single day of my life.

>>13356470
yeah but it's easier and you are pretty much guaranteed tasty food

>>13356489
I can tell. Especially since you just repeat some shit you heard as facts.

>>13356496
This. Restaurants just seem like they're more expensive per meal, but the buy in cost to home cooking is just insane.

>>13356496
So you agree that it is in fact cheaper to cook at home?

>>13356448
Also true, but not every Joe and Jane own a deep freezer bro

>>13356505
no. you can spend that extra time working or making yourself more hireable for future career endeavours.

>>13356455
The hamburger patties are usually not frozen, but the chicken, and fryer food usually are.

>>13356511
That is just speculative profit and doesn't factor in individual economic realities.

>>13356504
>but the buy in cost to home cooking is just insane.
But it doesn't have to be. A decent cook can create a fine meal with 10 dollar pans and paper plates. Buying shit at Sur la Table isn't necessary.

>>13356505
>So you agree that it is in fact cheaper to cook at home?
Only if you omit all the costs associated with cooking at home (including your own wages), and price only the ingredients used.

>>13356520

>>13356521
>A decent cook can create a fine meal with 10 dollar pans and paper plates
Where is this decent cook going to keep ingredients, and perform the act of cooking?

>>13356522
I already said all of those and more apply to the price you pay at the restaurant.

>>13356527
Maybe you're homeless or living in a Salvation Army dorm or getting raped nightly at the YMCA, I don't know, but most homes and apartments include (at least) rudimentary food storage and reparation facilities, including, most often, a refrigerator and a stove.

>>13354286
How does something that takes more work to set up ahead of time and then having to cook it yourself block the path of UE? That's exactly the sort of shit UE makes money off of as a lazier alternative.

>>13356533
>I already said all of those and more apply to the price you pay at the restaurant.
Then you should be able to show the math in thread.
>>13356536
>I don't know, but most homes and apartments include (at least) rudimentary food storage and reparation facilities, including, most often, a refrigerator and a stove.
Not everyone acquired their home, and utilities for free anon.

>>13356541
>Not everyone acquired their home, and utilities for free anon.
Now you're just being obtuse.

>>13356554
>Now you're just being obtuse.
Doesn't make you any less wrong.

>>13356541
>Then you should be able to show the math in thread.
What math? Nobody gave any numbers. You can just take the list in >>13356431
and add:
-wages for the whole staff
-far higher costs of gas/electricity/water since a restaurant kitchen uses a lot more of those, even in "passive" costs, like keeping multiples industrial fridges on.
-a percentage profit
-price of cooking supplies and dining supplies still apply.
-price of expected waste
-additional restaurant specific costs, like licenses.
-optionally rent

>>13354286
>Storing and cooking your own food
Nope. Life's bad enough as it is. The least I deserve is convenient zero effort food service.

>>13356581
Restaurants are spending way less on a per person basis. You don't need a new kitchen for every customer.

>>13356581
>what math
I can tell that you're very intelligent, so I'll try to dumb it down for you.
That price comes out of that $2 burger, because they deal in bulk sales.
Meanwhile your home cooked $2 burger actually cost you way more than you thought.

>>13356510
I own a freezer despite my flat being so small that I have to keep the thing in the livingroom.
Not that there's an actual wall between that and the "kitchen" anyway of course.
If you ask around you can probably an old one for a couple bottles of wine.

>>13356455
Same to you then?
All the places I worked at used refrigeratored burgers
Except Mcdicks but we all knew that already

>>13356588
But we aren't talking about price from a global point of view but the price it costs an individual.
>>13356595
I though we were talking about actual food in real restaurants, not fast food garbage.

>>13356602
>I though we were talking about actual food in real restaurants, not fast food garbage.
Both. At least try to keep up anon.

>>13356608
I'mma jump in and point out price differences and amount of meat being served in comparison of one place to another

>>13356602
>But we aren't talking about price from a global point of view but the price it costs an individual.
Do you have to buy a restaurant everytime you eat at one?

>>13356617
No, but a single home cook doesn't have to pay for every kitchens home cooks use either.

>>13356616
All restaurants apply. The point is that your price per meal is all inclusive, and that you should include all the costs when calculating how much your crappy home cooked ketchup milk steak costs.

>>13356438
The only place that uses never-fozen patties is Wendy's and somehow their burgers are even blander than McDonalds'es

>>13356623
>No, but a single home cook doesn't have to pay for every kitchens home cooks use either.
They actually do have to pay for their own kitchen, utilities, equipment, and etc.

>>13356602
>a global point of view
I have no idea what you mean by that but the point still stands that restaurants are definitely not spending more per person. Whatever costs they pass to customers is going to be split up among thousands of different people, not paid for all by you. They save lots of money by using one set of tools at one location to serve a massive population instead of what you would do at home which is all just for you or your family.

>>13356629
Jack in the crack uses non frozen also.

>>13356625
i can cook better than you though

>>13356646
No you can't, and you cook for yourself, because your time isn't worth money.

>>13356649
yes i can
you're a bad cook and taking it out on the rest of us
you probably order pasta when you eat out too

>>13356657
Stop acting like a little bitch, because you don't want to admit that you were wrong anon.
Now you just look petty, and stupid.

>>13356671
>YOU MAKE GROSS SHIT LIKE KETCHUP MILK STEAK
>no i don't
>HAHA YES YOU DO
ok bud

>home cooks
more like
>wasteful neet losers

>>13356675
>attempts to deflect, and steer the conversation off topic
Just swallow that "L" kitchennerd.

>>13356696
sure thing
I'll be over here eating a home cooked meal that required 0 effort

>>13356703
>I'll be over here eating a home cooked meal that required 0 effort
Your parents paid for you to have that privelage anon.

>>13354404
edible? literally forever

people have cooked and eaten 10,000 year old mammoth meat dug out from the tundra and be totally fine

>>13356431
Yup restaurants actually lose money if you eat there.

>>13356712
In time, yes. Mum always kept me in the kitchen with her so I'd learn to cook

>>13356722
You don't have to pay for the restaurant with each meal, because it's spread out across all the meals, but you have to pay for your own kitchen, utilities, hardware, and etc on your own, and in full.

The difference between a casual chain and a real restaurant is how often they restock their food. Basically, laziness.

>>13356727
You're going to be a good sissy trap for some old man in SF anon.

>>13356740
Funnily enough, I'm a married barafag and I'm older than my husband

>>13356746
>legit fag
Called it.

>>13356746
>only corrects the bit about age

>>13356759
And you can't cook
It appears we're at an impasse

>>13356703
>home cooked meal
>0 effort
?
Why do you cookingfags care so little for your own time and energy? It takes plenty of effort. You just trained yourself to stop noticing it. Every time these threads come up someone like you pretends there's nothing involved in making your own food until you start getting asked specifics and then all of a sudden you remember you had to to to a store, buy all those different ingredients and supplies, go back home, stock different drawers, your refrigerator, your freezer, etc, reassemble it all in a bunch of containers, pots pans, trays, whatever that you had to wash earlier, lay out your ingredients, apply condiments or seasoning or something, cover stuff up, have stuff cooking for some amount of time, come back to it when it's done, continue cooking other shit and mixing it together, serving out everything onto a plate as your meal or onto your family's plates for their meals, taking stock of where your inventory's at for all those different items so you can go back to the store and buy more of it over and over again for the rest of your life, put all your used equipment / containers in a dish washer so you can clean them again for another round of use the next day, etc.
It's insanity.

>>13356767
>he doesn't know what a barafag is

>>13356722
I fucking hate restaurants, I'm going to use this to bring down the restaurant industry

>>13356772
>remove salmon fillet from package
>put in dish
>pour marinade on top
>wait
holy shit, so difficult
just admit you don't belong here

>>13356768
>And you can't cook
A claim without any basis.
>Lgbt anon
>Constantly repeats a lie, and pretends that it's true
Typical mentally ill lefty fag.

>>13356787
It's a board for food and a board for cooking. Most here don't cook which shouldn't surprise you since this is an Asian cartoon fan website.

>>13356797
>if you're gay that means you suck Hillary dick
most homophobic thing you've posted all thread dude

>>13356798
But doesn't shit like Dungeon Meshi inspire them to learn to cook for themselves?

>>13356802
Implying that it isn't true?

>>13356808
How would boiling succubus in a mango inspire anyone to cook?

>>13356808
That's like saying everyone who watches harem animes ends up getting 10 gfs.

>>13356809
It isn't, retard
She's a fucking warmongering crook and a two-faced piece of shit who will say and do whatever she can to sway public opinion, even if she doesn't care about said issue herself

>>13356815
Nah, what I'm saying is closer to dudes trying to obtain ten gfs, but I see your point
At least "learning to cook" is an achievable goal though

>>13356823
Having sex with 10 women is easier than cooking on a regular basis.

>>13356817
And you, and your boyfriend both voted for her. You're probably still voting for her right now in broad daylight.

>>13356832
I'm Canadian and married but please continue trying to strawman me because I don't fit your narrative that all gays are screeching leftists

>>13356835
>I'm Canadian and married but please continue trying to strawman me because I don't fit your narrative that all gays are screeching leftists
>Canadian
>Gay
You actually fit the stereotype of the gay lefty quite well.

>>13356447
Stacker? I hardly know her

>>13356829
>>13356829

>>13356843
>he's Canadian so he's a LIBERAAAAAL
Anyway, fuck antifa, fuck palestine, fuck bugchasers, fuck pedophiles, free hong kong, vote for Trump or Tulsi Gabbard
I'm centrist, buddy, guy, fwend

>>13356856
You're not fooling anyone leaf.

>>13356868
Nice argument
I'll be going to Jamaica tomorrow, stay seething

>>13356870
>how gays argue

>>13356872
Yep
I can cook, you can't, I'm married, you don't even have a GF, I'm going on vacation, you aren't, I'm rich, you're poor
Enjoy screaming about gay centrists while I sip red stripe in the Caribbean

>>13356903
You're gay, and Canadian. You really have nothing going on, and you're bragging about going to Jamaica just to prove that you aren't sad, and worthless online.

>>13356903
I hope you have fun gayboi.

>>13356851
Go to your local BDSM fetish dungeon. You will now have sex with as many disgusting fat middle age women you want and it will be infinitely easier than cooking on a regular basis every day for your entire life.

>>13354286
yeah but will you have buns as well?

>>13356961
Thanks friend
We went in the summer as well and had such a good time we decided to go again

>>13357061
I'm the same anon you were trying to impress btw.

>>13356936
Sounds like he's doing quite well, and proving your worth online matters as much, and as time progresses, will matter more than elsewhere, in contention. You prove your worth any time you sign up for any responsibility, you dingus.

>>13357064
We're still fwends, buddy

>>13357076
Faganon was proven retarded, so that faggit started making weird claims online in order to assert self worth.
There's still no proof that the canafag actually
>cooks better
>is richer
or even
>going to Jamaica