/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Law enforcement most probably

>>13291470

Various licenses and certifications you have to get in regards to food handling and street vending

Typically in regards to how your city handles such things as if they allow you to set up a food cart in certain areas or not.

What happens when someone gets food poisoning from your food?

>>13291470
probably no one wanting to eat out of a strange cart with someone's homemade food

Shit business model. You friends and family will lose lots of investment capital in your ill conceived concept.

>>13291470
I would say common sense, but you don't seem to posses that.

This
>>13291483
and this
>>13291496
Contact your local town hall for all the information you need to be a street food vendor.

>>13291470
>Oi you got a loicense for that sandwich?

>>13291518
Thank you.
>>13291512
dem there potatoes

>>13291470
legal in cali, bro. go for it.

>>13291530
>Thank you.
You're very welcome.

>>13291470
Check with the local town hall like everyone else said if you want to do it legal. Make sure you have a good product and an easy way to pay. Flat prices are easiest, no 3.99, just 4 dollars. Have modern business solutions such as square and venmo to accept payment, don't rely on cash. You don't need to file taxes as a business, you are doing what is called DBA, doing business as, when you register with the city under a trade name.

fuck everyone who says don't do it and just try. It isn't like you're investing in brick and mortar, but limit your hours to when people are arriving to work or such. I did this instead of some soul crushing job while in college and could reasonably make $100 a morning, but some days were really lean. I also started going to businesses and offering delivery per morning, that was even easier. People would get breakfast tacos and coffee delivered to the business on set days. Was pretty great, got to meet plenty of people.

>>13291580
Hey man, I'm also in college and doing this for the same reasons.
Could I ask you a few more questions? Do you have an email or soemthing

>>13291580
I also forget, make sure you packaging is clean and looks good, and is preferably branded.

>>13291605
ask them now, I'll lurk for a while and give you as much advice as I can. I'd rather not post anything identifiable on a mongolian street basket weaving forum

>>13291620
I just have a few random questions. permit stuff and all that can be found online.
>How did you decide which location would be ideal?
>How long did it take for business to start picking up? Also did you use social media to promote
>

Other things to consider:

What places would be profittable to even have a food vendor on hand?

If a business will let you swing by their place you can talk to them and see if you can do that to cater to their employees during breakfast or lunch hours

Depending on what you make you better be sure to get a good idea of how many people who plan to account for. If there are multiple businesses and people from other places come by to get something from you you could run out of food pretty quickly

You'll also want to invest in social media as well and consider setting up for events and such

>I buy your food
>I get sick
>I sue
>all your things are now mine

Thats the big reason to go through all the licensing process and set it up legit.

>>13291669
>>13291704
>How did you decide which location would be ideal?
If you are in college, pick trendy places where the older crowd goes like coffee shops and such. If your product looks good enough you can also partner with coffee places to drop off x amount of food per morning for a flat rate. I got many times more money from businesses than random sales from people.
>How long did it take for business to start picking up? Also did you use social media to promote
If you're selling food, people will buy, but word of mouth is ideal. I didn't personally use social media, but that would definitely help. I can't stress enough that you need your product to both look rustic and clean, go to a banner making/branding store and get stickers or something made that shows who you are/where it came from. I just made potato, egg and bacon breakfast tacos for $1 a peice but I put a sticker on every one.

Oh, and buy in bulk.If you make eggs buy the giant cartons of white eggs, your profit margin is going to make or break you. I made sure my product felt homemade because I bought thick cut bacon (that I got on a deal from a local butcher for buying it 20 pounds at a time) and making my own flour tortillas.

>>13291737
licensing will not stop you from being on the receiving end of a tort

>>13291470
my friend did this. it cost him five figures to get all the permits, certifications and equipment.

>>13291704
>What places would be profitable to even have a food vendor on hand?
pretty much exclusively works in college bar towns after close when all the drunk kids poor onto the street hungry. he would just sell hotdogs and made a good bit of cash doing it but eventually quit when he got tired of working those hours himself and there wasn't enough profit to pay an employee and himself and still be worth it.

>>13291512
Please tell me this was a real place

One tip that's imo the biggest pitfall in the food industry, if you hit a rough patch, do not increase your prices. Nobody is going to $8 pay for a street food hotdog. Instead try to increase your clientele through promotion of your food.

>>13291765
> it cost him five figures to get all the permits, certifications and equipment.
bear in mind this is entirely relevant to geographic location and $500 to start a business is incredibly cheap

>>13291512
>free handshakes for seniors and veterans
this technically implies that he is charging others for a handshake. What a legend

>>13291780
$500 is three figures.

>>13291776

Depends. If your price is comparable to the brick and mortars and around you it could be a toss of convenience versus price but, ultimately, you have to set your price to get more than break even if you hope to keep it up as a business venture.

That said, people are willing to pony up if it worth it

>>13291512
>3 pounds of cooked taters for $1.29
>no tipping. ever
>beer & wine bar
>potatoes au gratin
dare I say, based?

>>13291918
ka-pow!

>>13291825
holy shit I didn't even realize my slip. where in the world was this where it was a minimum of 10,000 to startup? It was about $200 for me

>>13291512
'Mickey Rooney's Potato Fantasy'. This sounds vaguely obscene. Definitely not my fetish.

Daddy government

>>13291742
Wow, you really did do this business.
What really struck me was the flour part. Almost anything flour can be homemade if you have the means to do it (oven). The only reason to outsource, in any way, flour anything is because you don't have room for the baking equipment for the volume you're doing. Or if you have variable demand that doesn't support it
t. pizza and sub joint

>>13291470
Cowardice and wretched faggotry

>>13291775
https://thelifeandtimesofhollywood.com/mickey-rooneys-wacko-businesses-from-mickeys-weenie-world-to-mickeys-tip-offs-disposable-bras-how-mickey-took-100-million-in-earnings-and-ended-up-with-only-18000-at-his/

>>13291470
Your hooves aren't suited to making sandwiches

>>13293040
He probably caught a cold w/o insurance and got charged $1,000,000 for an emergency room visit and an antihistamine prescription.

>>13293046
Sleep tight oinker.

>>13293046
Digest well Lil' porker.

>>13291470
You finna bouta be fined

If anyone even eats your shitty sandwiches.

>>13293314
bruh my sandwiches are fire

>>13291470
Serious answer? Varies by city. Check whether street vending requires a license, whether commercial food prep requires a license, whether the city imposes fees or auctions spots. . . .

I read a few years ago that in Los Angeles, a food cart or food truck required about $14,000 just in permit fees.

Some of the hot dog vendors in NYC have to pay a hundred thousand dollars to the city annually for their fucking hot dog cart locations. That's JUST for the "right" to put a cart at some location, it doesn't include health inspections or insurance or a business license or any of the other stuff.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/nyregion/the-six-figure-price-tag-for-selling-a-two-dollar-hot-dog.html

Same reason that taxi rides were so expensive -- those taxi medallions were selling for over a million dollars each, right up until Uber destroyed the market.

https://nypost.com/2018/06/09/139-taxi-medallions-will-be-offered-at-bankruptcy-auction/

One of my favorite restaurants during college burned down. I suggested to the owner that he try doing catering or street vending or something until the building could be gutted and rebuilt. He explained that the city prohibits street vending and that for catering the county requires that all food be prepared in an inspected "commercial kitchen", which he no longer had.

>>13291737
In addition to what others have said about that not insulating you from a lawsuit over someone getting sick off your food, also, this is why you form an LLC (shield your personal assets from your business risks) and why you get insurance.

>>13293825
>Paying a million for a medallion so some nigger can murder you
Lol

>>13291470
you need a city permit and food handler certification

>>13291470
QC and cost

>>13293825
>LLC
an LLC is a bit of a stretch for a college kid trying to make some extra money, there are insurances plans for the type of operation he is concerned with. Getting an LLC to run a food cart is like getting a rotary hammer and concrete saw to build a birdhouse.
t. business pro

>>13291470
US law

>>13293927
those are easy to obtain

>>13291470
I don't know man, same for me and this egg cart idea Ive had for a couple years now.

just do it, nobody stops these guys from popping up all over the place

>>13291470
your mind

there's mexicans in LA who push carts around and honk a horn to attract customers. they sell snacks covered in sauces, corn with toppings. if they can do it, you can too.

>>13291483
sell donuts too

>>13294279
But how would you get out of it?

>>13291496
why can kids set up a lemonade stand but an adult can't sell food on the street without a license?

>>13294839
Actually in some areas kids must have permits as well

>>13293046
>Thirty THOUSAND fucking 円
That fucker's stomach better be filled with fucking gold.

>>13294839
That's usually illegal but not enforced. When it is enforced, it's usually because a parent is behind it and making bank.

>>13291483
Not if you're ready to go down with atleast a body count of 5

>>13294839
The kids probably aren't supposed to, either. It's simply a lack of ability to enforce. The entire point of licensing and all that other shit is to give governing bodies a method of controlling businesses, so that they're stopped from engaging in free market practices, and to make sure they get their cut in taxes so they get mo' money fo' dem programs

When I was in high school, I used to sell juice, ramen, pop tarts, candy, and soda, etc. to the other students. I actually moved during it and was doing this in multiple schools. I even took one of those Capri-sun boxes, some shipping tape and a coat hanger and made a little fucking cardboard suitcase with handle and little pockets on the inside so shit wouldn't move around.
Both schools had their own school stores, but being the out of touch retards that they were, they were buying name brand chips/soda/poptarts™ and charging a premium for it, oblivious to the fact that high schoolers want quantity in their unhealthy snacks, not quality. As a result, I was able to undercut the prices by selling generic stuff, as well as stuff they weren't actually supposed to sell (Soda).
Of course, being authoritarian communist school administrations, there's no way they could get their head out of their asses and realize why they're being outcompeted. They always tried to go after me at first, but I was a big guy, so I could always just say I was eating it all myself like a fat fuck and they knew unironically stealing my shit would just cause trouble. Soda was the one thing they could get away with confiscating most of the time, so I started smuggling them in via Pringles cans. Some tissue on either end and in between two cans and it was surprising how snugly it all fit; no noise or shaking around at all, so the soda wouldn't explode when opened.
Eventually, they just started targeting my customers instead of me. It was very enlightening. Like seeing the war on drugs play out; ineffective heavy-handed statists and all.

>>13291620
>not just making a new cock.li email

>>13295177
Big guy

>>13291496
>What happens when someone gets food poisoning from your food?
Exactly the same thing that happens when someone gets food poisoning from eating street food in Asia: "Hmm, that sucks".

>>13295189
for you

>>13295215
This, I've never heard of anyone suing a Mexican or Chinese food cart , at most they'll just whine on social media about it

Multinational corporations who impose rules and regulations on upstarts to preemptively combat any legitimate competition they may provoke.

>>13295438
>Crooked free market-hating politicians whose reelection campaigns are bankrolled by multinational corporations, various lobbyist groups of all kinds, as well as those in the (((Entertainment Industry))) who impose rules and regulations on upstarts to preemptively combat any legitimate competition they may provoke.
FTFY

>>13293046
Shhhh not so loud piggo is sleeping

>>13295113
you do realize that's just over 30 USD? Have you even ever bought meat, that is nothing.

>>13295584
Anon, that is not 30 USD.
That is nearly fucking $300 USD.

>>13295584
Wait, my mistake, $1 = 109.48 yen, so under $30

>>13295594
Anon, for the second time, it's not 3 thousand yen, it's THIRTY THOUSAND.

>>13295594
>>13295590
>>13295584
>>13295113
Oof, apparently I can't math right now, and stand corrected, that is and expensive little pig.

>>13295584
Incorrect, it’s around $300, in japan you just take off the last two zeros to get a fairly accurate dollar equivalent.
t. live in Japan. no idea wtf that pig is supposed to be for tho never seen it in a store like that ever

>>13291470
The State.
But please keep telling yourself that not only is it your friend; you NEED it to live.

>>13291470
Some teen bop gangsters will blow up the place. Unless you hand over the 15 %

>>13295673
futile to fight against it
keep your head low and go with the dope as best you can

>>13293046
Sleep tight oinker

>>13294839
They can't, you fucking idiot. There have been news stories of their parents getting fined. It's just that most cops are more lenient on a 5 year old learning money management and business management than a 30 year old neckbeard who should know better.

>>13291470
That pig is soooo cute!

>>13295177
Holy fuck anon, you did more business stuff during school than me during my entire life