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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/26/too-exclusive-worlds-best-sushi-restaurant-stripped-of-its-three-michelin-stars

GIVEU BACK MISHORIN STARR GAIJIN. CANNOT ADD MORE SEATS FOR FAT AMERICAN TOURISTS.

>> No.13282293

Who gives a shit? No one on /ck/ would have gone there anyways.

>> No.13282376

>>13282231
Get out of here with this shit you fucking homo

>> No.13282849

>>13282231
waaa

>> No.13282865

>>13282231
>>13282293
>>13282376
>>13282849
>Guide will not rate Sukiyabashi Jiro in Tokyo as it is no longer open to the public
>as it is no longer open to the public

>> No.13282879

>>13282231
FOR THE HUNDREDTH FUCKING TIME. HE GETS TO KEEP THE STARS, THEY'RE JUST REMOVING HIM FROM THE GUIDEBOOK BECAUSE THE RESTAURANT IS NO LONGER PUBLIC.

>> No.13282890

>Yoshikazu Ono once said that women make inferior sushi chefs because their menstrual cycle affects their sense of taste
wtf i love $500 raw fish now

>> No.13282894

>>13282890
wouldn't be surprised if that's true

>> No.13282908

>>13282231
His son's restaurant is still open to the public and is 2 michelin starred.

If Jiro wanted his stars back, all he'd have to do is open up reservations, it's not something he cares about though.

>> No.13282927

>>13282865
What the fuck is your point?

>> No.13282937

>>13282927
The point is he didn't lose his stars because his food is shit. He lost his stars because he doesn't give a fuck about serving more people and only wants to serve locals, rich tourists staying in luxury hotels, and japanese politicians and celebrities.

>> No.13282947

>>13282937
>The point is he didn't lose his stars because his food is shit
I didn't ask why he doesn't have stars anymore retard.
>He lost his stars because he doesn't give a fuck about serving more people and only wants to serve locals, rich tourists staying in luxury hotels, and japanese politicians and celebrities.
And?
Again, what the fuck is your point?

>> No.13282952

>>13282865
>>13282937
Jiro defense force forcing unrelated bullshit on anons in an attempt to save Jiru from losing face.

>> No.13282972

>>13282908
>His son's restaurant is still open to the public and is 2 michelin starred.
Don't care.
>If Jiro wanted his stars back, all he'd have to do is open up reservations, it's not something he cares about though.
You care more about it than Jiro, and everyone else in this thread.

>> No.13282979

>>13282947
the point being that the literal OP has the narrative that Jiro wants the stars?

>> No.13282995

>>13282979
Good job op. You defended Jiro's honor.
>Jiro wants the stars?
But he can't have the stars.

>> No.13283008

>>13282908
>His son's restaurant is still open to the public and is 2 michelin starred.
If he was a gudboy he would have given his daddy a star, because daddy has zero stars.

>> No.13283033

>>13282995
but he doesn't want them...

>> No.13283040

>>13283033
Doesn't matter, because can't have them anyways.

>> No.13283333

Jiru dreamu micherin starru

>> No.13284205

>>13282879
>HE GETS TO KEEP THE STARS
Sauce

>> No.13284237
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>>13282231
Did he break your heart, /ck/? You all keep making these threads about him like he was your ex girlfriend or something.

>> No.13284259

>>13284237
I wonder why /ck/ even cares about this.
The Japanese don't even consider him to be the best sushi guy (rated number 66), and he's known to treat foreigners like shit.

>> No.13284267

>>13284237
/ck/ has always had blue balls over jiro.

>> No.13284295

>>13283333
>Jiru dreamu micherin starru

>> No.13284298

waitu piggu

pay me dorrar for fish

>> No.13284376

>>13282231
>"We recognise Sukiyabashi Jiro does not accept reservations from the general public, which makes it out of our scope," a spokeswoman for the Michelin Guide, said as it unveiled its latest Tokyo edition.
>"It was not true to say the restaurant lost stars but it is not subject to coverage in our guide. Michelin’s policy is to introduce restaurants where everybody can go to eat."
OP's a retarded faggot.

>> No.13284391

>>13284376
>Stripped of stars, because of policy
>Association words it so jiro can save face
You're the retard.

>> No.13284392

>>13282908
>>13282231
his waitlist is like 3 years long

he doesnt care about stars at this point

>> No.13284425

>>13282890
Why do you even need to taste the raw fish?

>> No.13284429

>>13284391
>It was not true to say the restaurant lost stars
^Exact quote from your article.
Retard.

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>>13282231
I'm sorry but if you charge as much as this guy, i would appreciate not dining in a large office cubicle.

>> No.13284482

>>13282231
>GIBU BAKKU MISHORIN SUTAA, GAIJIN. CANNOTO ADO MOA SITSU FOA FATO AMERIKAN TUARITSU.
FTFY

>> No.13284487

>>13284446
I fucking love places like that. They're rare around here, you usually find them in old covered markets and such.

>> No.13284496

>>13284429
>it's not true that lost stars
>stars were stripped
They're being kind.

>> No.13284497

>>13284446
No photography policy must be on an ongoing basis, but 'we are full' is on the same sign as it. Basically they are saying no huwaito piggu, ever

>> No.13284519

>>13284446
Nobody cares what you want when it's food like that. They get way more people desperately trying to be their customers than they would ever actually want to deal with. There is no incentive to making the customer experience good in that scenario. Trying to give people a great environment and customer service is something restaurants needing money and customer loyalty to survive do.
It's kind of like the difference between someone making a TV show or movie because they're trying really hard to win over audiences and get paid lots of money vs. someone more like David Lynch who clearly only makes what he wants to make for his own artistic interests and who cares as little as possible about how you feel about that.
When you're good enough at what you do and everyone recognizes you already you're freed up to engage in craft for craft's sake and not as a customer service prostitute begging people to give you money.
Money charged in this case is primarily meant to help discourage would be customers because they have too many as it is. It's not like money charged at a more typical restaurant where they're needing it to stay in business.

>> No.13284524

>>13284496
There's nothing to be kind about. He decided himself to no longer run a public shop. Nothing bad happened.

>> No.13284530

>>13284524
He was strippu of his starru. It's so shamfurr that you nerds are here pulling damage control.

>> No.13284534

>>13282231
>world's best sushi restaurant
Isn't that restaurant currently rated to be the 66th best by the Japanese?

>> No.13284570

does anyone here even want to eat at this guys place?

it sounds like such a uncomfy experience

>if you're not japanese you know jiro secretly hates you, even if he doesn't say anything
>you can't really relax because you know there is people already waiting for their spot so you eat quick extra just to get it over with and not piss anyone off
>extreme pressure to fuck up and eat some of the sushi in a wrong way or something which exposes you as an idiot and makes you embarassed

fuck that shit, i'm not saying you should fuck around and take 3 hours to eat your meal, bu t just the fact that there is time pressure would kinda ruin the experience for me. big part of enjoying any meal is that you are in a relaxed state of mind.

>> No.13284579

>>13282908
>it's not something he cares about though
He got too much criticism because some food was genuinely below average. A rich snob won't complain to ruin the mood and because it is not that expensive for him but a normal person who just spent 300 dollars on cold rice and uncooked fish will make himself heard.

>> No.13284592

>>13284570
>does anyone here even want to eat at this guys place?
I did when it had 3 stars, but now it's only 66th best sushi in Japan.

>> No.13284607

>>13284592
:^)

>> No.13284608

>>13284530
He wasn't. Sorry you're this mad you can't afford $300 restaurants. Try to let it go. It's not good for your health.

>> No.13284611

>>13284579
>He got too much criticism because some food was genuinely below average.
No he didn't. He's in his 90s and doesn't want to deal with retarded tourists.

>> No.13284619

>>13284608
>Sorry you're this mad you can't afford $300 restaurants.
I think that I might have a couple thousand in cash on me right now. Do you!

>> No.13284624

>>13284611
Who else is he going to deal with?

>> No.13284629

>>13284624
>Who else is he going to deal with?
The already way too large population of local customers he's still accepting reservations from.

>> No.13284632

>>13284608
I have enough money to book a hotel room that can get me into jiro's shack, AND hire a jav slut to pound my cock while we eat sushi there before I ass fuck her.

>> No.13284635

>>13284629
>The already way too large population of local customers he's still accepting reservations from.
Mfw he didn't even fill all his 10 seats most the time when he wasn't exclusive, because he ended up turning a lot of people off with his, and his staff's attitude.

>> No.13284648

>>13284635
Yes, anon, he's obviously very poor and not successful at all. Holy shit you're a retard.

>> No.13284658

>>13282231
WEAH DA STAAHH GAIJIN

>> No.13284660

>>13284648
Thanks to stupid foreigners who think that he was top sushi chef in Japan, because of Michelin stars.

>> No.13284663

Should I go to jiro's, or the 65th best sushi restaurant in Japan (1 better than jiro's).

>> No.13284672

>>13282231

Not even best in Japan.

Want to see what Japanese people like to eat at?

Go check Tabelog

https://tabelog.com/en/

>> No.13284750

>>13284672
>Mfw #1 costs less than jiro's.

>> No.13284877

Jiro dreams of pucci

>> No.13284900

>>13284672

This. Super traditional sushi places usually suck anyway because they aren't willing to up for better/newer flavors, the modern places that still get the same super high quality fish are waaaaaaay better.

>> No.13285000

>>13284259
this

>> No.13286025

>>13285000
Checked

>> No.13286811

>>13282231
but seriously
why is it so hard to get a seat there
like
whats the purpose

>> No.13287194

>>13286811
He had international appeal, because of the movie, publicized Obama/Abe as guests, Michelin stars, and was touted as the world's best sushi chef by the non Japanese media.

>> No.13287220

>>13284900
>up for better/newer flavors
talked like an obese fuck obsessed with currentyear blogs and has no taste buds

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13287229

>>13284519
>David Lynch cares as little as possible about how you feel
how can one man be so BASED

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13287242

so, I always thought the Michelin stars were a reflection of the quality of the food and skills of the chef, but it turns out it's about people served and prices of the food? I guess McDonalds has more Michelin stars than any other food place

>> No.13287266

>>13287242
I thought that it was all about the quality of food only, because jiro would have been stripped of his stars a long time ago if customer service, and satisfaction were a taken account for calculating stars.

>> No.13287294

>>13284237
I don’t get Ewtn anymore... what gives?

>> No.13287355

>>13282865
It's true. I live in Tokyo and a friend visiting wanted to go there so I looked into it and you just straight up can't make a reservation.

>> No.13287382

So what the fuck was he thinking would happen when he agreed to be in the documentary? He clearly doesn't give a shit about gaijin bux, did he just want some guy to blow smoke up his ass or something?

>> No.13287393

>>13287355
Your friend needs to stay at the right hotel, and you make reservations through that hotel.

>> No.13287398

>>13287382
He wanted the gaijin but, but he didn't want to serve the gaijins that brought it.

>> No.13287404

>>13287398
>gaijin bux

>> No.13287405

>>13287393
Yes, I'm aware of what the site said. It's still for the most part impossible to land a reservation, especially in any reasonable amount of time.

>> No.13287421

>>13287405
Might as well try one of the 65 higher rated sushi restaurants in Japan since you can't land a seat at jiro's.

>> No.13287442

>>13287421
I kindly directed him to the reservations section of another high end restaurant he was interested in.

>> No.13287449

>>13287442
Which one?

>> No.13289714

>>13282890
Based Gook and Menstruation crazy pilled.

>> No.13289723

>>13282293
Dollar bill guy has gone silent because he's been saving up to go there. He will even spend his dollar there. It will be glorious.

>> No.13289748

>>13282890
Honorary

>> No.13289778

>Eating uncooked fish
Imagine if aliens sprouted from your chest because you fell for the sushi meme

>> No.13290146

White piggy how dare you.
I cut you in half with katana.
Banzai! Haya! haya! *cuts you* with 1000 bukkakied Japanese steel.
Firty gaijin piggy subhuman! Now RIP.

>> No.13290992

>>13289778
>Being this American
Your deep fried butter is going to melt if you don't eat it faster, anon.

>> No.13291404

So what exactly happened to this guy that caused so many threads to be made?

>> No.13291420

>>13287242
>>13287266
>stars being about anything other than connections

>> No.13291425

>>13282231
>Yoshikazu Ono once said that women make inferior sushi chefs because their menstrual cycle affects their sense of taste
Based

>> No.13292092

>>13287242
>it turns out it's about people served and prices of the food?
What is making you come to this wrong conclusion?

>> No.13292102

>>13291404
>So what exactly happened to this guy that caused so many threads to be made?
Some autistic anon either identical with or else just similar in psychiatric profile to the "pepperoni pizza is for kids" spammer thinks it's hilarious to repeatedly post about how angry Jiro is that he's no longer listed in the Michelin guide even though Jiro was the one who made this change in the first place by deciding to no longer accept reservations because he's in his 90s and hates foreign tourists.

>> No.13292130

>>13287194
>world's best sushi chef by the non Japanese media.
maybe he feels deep shame about this

>> No.13292137

>>13287242
what's even the point if the place is private and overpriced anyway?

>> No.13292169

>>13292137
>overpriced
It's not overpriced. If anything it was underpriced because they weren't able to serve anyone unless they made a reservation six months out through one of some small number of approved luxury hotel concierges who themselves only make the reservation for you if you're an established customer.
>what's even the point if the place is private
The point is it's for the people who can still get in, not for you.

>> No.13292183

>>13292130
Japanese Prime Minister has eaten at his place, so it's not like he only exists in the Western mind. Not sure why people keep on acting like everyone in Japan hates him.

>> No.13292184

>>13292102
okay weeabo

>> No.13292199

>>13292184
You're posting on an anime fan website, dummy. Also I've never been to Japan and don't speak Japanese. Most weeaboo thing I've done is watch their cartoons like everyone else here.

>> No.13292266

>>13292199
sure thing, weeb tard

>> No.13292333

>>13282231
somebody just start posting the google and yelp reviews of this place

>> No.13292396

>>13283040
He would have them if he stayed open to the public, but he DOESN'T WANT TO.
Holy fuck you're retarded.

>> No.13292493

>>13284579
>Went to a Japanese cuisine restaurant
>Order sashimi
>Tastes bland and fish was not of the day
>Order ebi chahan
>Shrimps are chewy, bland and pop when I bite then
>That will be $200 + tip
>Start feeling funny after
I legit get sick when I think about it
>Another random day
>Go to a mall
>See a fried rice balls stand
>Mexican (or Filipino) dude makes em
>Order one
>It's umami af
>Only $8
>Didn't get sick
>Shrimp was actually tasty
>Thank you Pedro

>> No.13292497

>>13284592
I consider the japan sushi experience pretty much the same as going to Mexico City and look for tacos, you have a handful of places and sometimes you get the best from the least known, neighborhood places

>> No.13292543
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>>13292266

>> No.13292556

>>13284592
>>13284607
>>13292497
https://tabelog.com/en/

Japanese don't use yelp, they use tabelog

>> No.13292623

>>13292396
>He would have them if he stayed open to the public, but he DOESN'T WANT TO.
>doesn't want to
He does want to, but he can't, because he doesn't qualify for them anymore.

>> No.13292652

>>13292183
>Japanese prime minister ate there with Obama, because jiro is thought as the best to non nips.
The prime minister would have taken Obama to another restaurant if he knew that Americans would be awde by it.

>> No.13292656

>>13292652
Awde? Stupid fucking yuropoor

>> No.13292708

Go to eat "worlds best" sushi
>old man clicks his tooth when swing your face
>almost get kicked out for trying to take of your outer jacket
>sushi man taps his feet, while pointing a knife, and yells at you to hurry up, or leave
>Puts plate a plate of fish in front of you
>Tastes bad, and old
>Second plate is placed, but removed as you reach your out for it
Imagine 30 minutes of this.

>> No.13292754

>>13292708
I would be disappointed if I went to a highly rated Japanese restaurant and the guy running the place *wasn't* an angry old man who hates white people. If they're giving you friendly service that's basically admitting their product isn't good enough to justify treating you like shit.

>> No.13292765

>>13292754
Is this the sales pitch?
Personally I'd slap everyone.

>> No.13292804

Foreigners aren't aware that it's okay to slap people in Japan if they dishonour, or insult you with poor service.

>> No.13292908

>>13282947
>I didn't ask why
no one cares

>> No.13292912

>>13292908
Whats ur point

>> No.13292918

>>13292543
t. weeb trash

>> No.13293178

>>13289723
>Dollar bill guy
Who?

>> No.13294060

Seems every high end sushi place has obnoxious cunts running them. Reviews always mention how bad the customer service is and they charge stupid prices too. . So much for glorious pedo nation treating customers well.

>> No.13294105

>>13294060
>Seems every high end sushi place has obnoxious cunts running them
Which ones?

>> No.13294145

>>13293178
Filthy newfag scum

>> No.13294157

>>13294145
>$ bill guy
Who?

>> No.13294182

Eat at
>Jiro no stars
for $270 or go eat at
>Sukiyabashi Jiro Toyosu branch
for $15?

>> No.13294257

>>13282231
Fucking kids you teach them everything possible to make worlds greatest sushi and they still find a way to fuck it up. Lazy ass zoomers can't even into sushi jesus.

>> No.13294365

>>13284237
>mother angelica reaction pic
nice

>> No.13294595

>>13284632
Unironically I've done that. Shit was SO cadh.

>> No.13294819

Imagine actually thinking sushi is good cuisine.
It’s literally the fast food garbage of Japan riding a meme popularity wave caused by dumb westerners.

>> No.13295048

>>13294819
>meme popularity wave
What flyover shithole do you live in where sushi just became popular? It's been popular for 30+ years.

>> No.13295129

FUCK YOU GAIJIN
SUSHI FOR JAPANESE ONLY
I SUCK YOU FIVE DROLLA
URRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>> No.13295164

I went to japan like 5 years ago and tried to make a reservation for a month straight. Even used a Japanese friend i have to make local reservations, but their phone lines were never open. Honestly I'm glad I didn't go, shit is certainly not worth the price.

>> No.13295224

>>13284619
>I HAB THOUSANDS CASH
The fact that you keep large amounts of cash around indicates that you don't keep your assets in a bank or investments, and therefore the "couple thousand in cash" you're trying to portray as spending money is actually your entire net worth.

>> No.13295414

>>13287355
if you really live in tokyo why don't you prove it and post your genitals on this website then?

>> No.13295426

>>13282995
Are you honestly this retarded?

>> No.13295432

>>13283040
Yes he can. How stupid are you? Holy shit.

>> No.13295447

>>13292912
>he responded 3 days later within just a few minutes
Jesus anon, you've got problems if you have to shit on jiro THIS religiously.

You take this more seriously than I take my job.

>> No.13295473

>>13292623
But if he wanted to he could easily qualify.

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>>13291404
Current hot zero effort (You)bait, spammed by shitposting newfags. If they had lurked more, they'd know antiGMO threads are the superior ever flowing source of (You)s, since big pharma has shilling corps lurking here at all times to shit up any critical GMO discussion.

>> No.13295554

>>13294145
I've been here for years and I dont even know what the fuck you are talking about.

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>>13284237
I miss this lady like you wouldnt believe

>> No.13295754

>>13295479
They're not shills. You just don't understand how annoying it is to read threads written by retards who think everything artificial is bad.

>> No.13296936

>>13282890
Based Jap

>> No.13296971

>i must defend my beloved chink rice cooker

>> No.13297623

>>13295447
Same anon here. Wats your point?

>> No.13297635

>>13295473
That boat has sailed. Especially now that everyone knows that jiro wasn't even top rice cooker in Japan.

>> No.13297641

>>13295224
>broke cope

>> No.13297745

>>13295164
Japan has this custom where they ask the eaters if they'd like to make new reservations when they're paying their bills and leaving. It sets up a system where everybody is a regular, and there are never any new reservations. Basically it turns from a restaurant into a private club. This is why Jiro was stripped of his michelin stars.

>> No.13297760

>>13297745
He agreed to partner with hotels, so that the hotels have the rights to make reservations for their guests.

>> No.13297772

>>13297745
>>13297760
There is a clone of Jiro's restaurant run by his younger son in another location with cheaper prices.

The Elder Son with glasses runs the main location.

>> No.13297987

>>13297772
His (non relative) aprentice runs the one in toyoma. I heard that it was nice.

>> No.13298013

Jiro's soapland no longer 3 star quality?

>> No.13298047

>>13282231
Jiro looks like a human pepe