/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13236814
>and why is it absinthe?
The taste, the strength, the quality, the nuance, the history, and the ritual.

>>13236814
straight liquor is for degens, learn to mix yourself some cocktails

>>13236830
Absinthe is sometimes mistakenly referred to as a liqueur, but it is not traditionally bottled with added sugar and is, therefore, classified as a spirit.

>>13236833
Yeah, nah, there is literally nothing wrong with drinking unadulterated scotch, vodka, tequila and so on. If you have to mix your drink to make it palateable or to pace yourself because you have no discipline, you are far more likely to be a degenerate.

>>13236836
We speak english here you filthy frog, liquor isn't liqueur.

>>13236843
I just copy pasted wikipedia, I don't even drink.

>>13236830
damn i just realize i missed out on the opportunity to taste real absinthe while i was in europe. you can't get the real shit in the land of the free, can you?

>>13236836
That's what I meant: absinthe the spirit.
>>13236853
It's all imported... Just don't get something that adds non-traditional flavors. I once payed $80 for a bottle and poured myself a glass of disgusting poison before I realized when I looked at the bottle that it had added celery. NOPE. St. George's is good.

>>13236875
based gallant

>>13236853
Murrica lifted the ban in 2007, although each band still needs to get individual approval for import.

>>13236814
no.

>>13236833
Mixed drinks are for ladies and the gays.
Since there are no women on the internet, we can concluded you love the COCKtails

>>13236814
the best liquor is Gin

strong
unique
historically significant
conquered India
makes tonic almost palatable
makes ginger beer somehow even better

>>13236963
The only mixed drinks I've ever liked were hard liqour mixed with softer alcohol. Really makes you think.

>>13236974
>13236974
>when you pour the sambuca into the hard cider

>>13236973
Whiskey is better than gin in virtually every case. The only time to drink gin is in a cocktail where you're with people who you don't want to know that you're an alcoholic by ordering vodka.

>>13237391
If you ever experience properly warm weather, gin is absolutely the best spirit. Whiskey/whisky is only good in cold weather.

>>13236814
>babby discovered scotch today
There is no such thing as "best". Comparing scotch with other spirits is literally like apples and pears. Quit making gay threads

>>13237400
>if you ever experience properly warm weather
This has to be the most bong thing I've ever read.

>>13237391
In the us at least gin has a more alcoholic axe murderer reputation than vodka. i know gin is pretty much everywhere in the uk and europe though

>>13237405
europe in the summer of 2018 during the world cup was pure kino. pints and cold gin and tonics everywhere, pubs screening football games on their patios, barbecue smoke going outside. so based

>>13237416
oh i forgot to mention the massive heatwave, which is why i replied to your post in the first place

>>13237405
I don't see how. It never gets warm in England, from what I hear. I live in Australia.

>>13237449
>once again 'straya reminds me that it's time to go to sleep
It's called irony, dum dum.

>>13237460
ok. I don't think it was well executed, personally.

>>13237449
there was a massive heatwave for a couple months last year. it killed a 100+ year old almond tree in my town

>have Scottish heritage
>still prefer Bourbon and American style whiskies
It is my secret shame.

>>13236830
>and why is it absinthe?
The taste, the strength, the quality, the nuance, the history, and the autism...

>>13236830
>and the ritual
Stopped reading there.

>>13236814
I haven't had scotch in years, but the time has come to buy another bottle. Recommend me a good one. I like Glenmorangie but dislike Laphroaig, sorry OP.

Vodka. As straight shots, goes mixed with fucking everything, good stuff does not give hangover.
'nuff said.

>>13236973
>>13237391
I agree with this in every case.
Gin is also industrial ethanol and was from it's inception. Then juniper and flavors are added. It is an 'artificial' drink from day 1.
It's so damned good on a hot day, and the only refreshing spirit at all.
$10 gin is better than $25 whiskeys.
And the bit about ginger beer: spot on. Foghorns are a rocker. DESU ginger beer is based, dark and stormies are also good.

>>13239002
Tomatin 12

>>13239002
Glenfarclas 12

>>13239002
Talisker 18.

>>13239002
>>13240036
For me, it's Talisker 10.

>>13236833
You can throw around buzzwords all you want, everyone knows diluting your liquor is a sign of weakness

>>13240036
>>13240275
>hey guys I like non-peated whiskies and don't like peated whiskies
>recommend me a good one
>recommend peated whisky
$0.01 has been deposited into your account, Pradesh.
Also, Talisker tastes like rotting fish entrails.
In b4 some variation on the cringe/bluepilled meme like this asshole is paid to post every time someone criticizes his Diageo pisswater.

>>13236833
>>13236963
Try a vieux carre, or el camino. ~40abv alcohol mixed drinks, fucking tasty

>>13240275
>>13241009
Talisker.. pitched itself correct on the bottle label mentioning flavors of iodine

I haven't had a drink in 4 months. I hadn't had a drop for more than a year before that. Basically, I'm not an alcoholic like most people in this thread.

>>13241414
Based. I never get drunk myself. Just a drink or two then call it a day.

>>13240284
the cocktail in that picture is 3 different liquors mixed

>>13238188
That's the end of the post, of course you stopped reading there.

>>13236814
>Having ONE thing one considers best or ONE favourite

I guess many people just like sticking to something safe for them instead of enjoying the huge variety that life offers.

This thing is more than decent and I got a handle (1750 mL) today for $17. Damn good deal.

It's comparable to Evan Williams Black Label (who also make this one), only a little cheaper.

>>13241009
Stay mad, fag.

>>13237401
So, both pom fruits?

only one meme this week lads

>>13238188

>>13238188
kek

yeah.

For me, it's Irish Cream Liqueur

I like to jager the meister from time to time

>>13241998
that sounds amazing, but also memetic

>>13239002
Glen grant 12, it's a similar style but cheaper and more intense. Apple, malt, honey and spice, it's like drinking apple pie.

>>13236814
>quarter cask

best laphroaig imo

but my favorite is (pic)

>>13236937
nice choice

but it lost some quality in recent years. therefore i prefer the negra edition these days

>>13242302
classic

OMG! OMG! Scotch is my favorite!!!!

>>13241544
Good choice

>>13239002
Macallan Fine Oak 30

absinth.

>>13236836
what more is it's often way stronger than scotch, vodka, cognac/brandy, gin etc.

Why do people pretend to like hard liquor? Black coffee I can understand, but liquor, yeah nah you are pretending

>>13236853
EU has the maximum thujone level/mg set to 35 by law while the people's mutt US republic of A of the setting sun has it at merely a 10.

>>13242963
It’s all a very expensive larp. I like getting drunk and have had 100’s if not 1000’s of differents spirits in my life including tons of single malt and blended scotches and at the end of the day, the best ones are the ones that are cheap while not tasting like complete shit. That’s why this guy has the right idea:
>>13241544

>>13236830
i can only drink pernod

all the other brands i tasted so far simply cannot compete

but chartreuse is quite a challenger

>>13242993
wild turkey 101 should match your criterias

>>13242963
Sometimes it's good, like having a glass of the aforementioned scotch after a meal, or some vodka when you've been out in the cold for hours, or good sweet bourbon on a hot evening. Appreciating the taste of liquor is very situation dependent, it's like anchovies or some other very strong tasting food/drink that works in its specific role and would be gross in most others.

>>13242963
t. Soy IPA imbibing nu male

Alright /ck/ what am I in for?
Had a friend recommend this to me and said it was similar to blue label but better in both price and being a single malt with flavors he preferred. Your thoughts?

>>13242963
I like the taste of alcohol itself

>>13242963

>go into a liquor store
>pick out a $10 bottle of vodka on sale
>standing in line
>sheboon walks in and yells to the cashier “y’all got the Hennessey over there or behind the counter?” loud enough so that everyone in the store can hear that she’s spending a quarter of her welfare check on Henny (cuz she ‘clathy’)
>”it’s behind the counter” (just like every other meme liquor that blacks like at every store within 300 miles)
These are the types of people who fall for the expensive liquor meme

>>13239002
You like mellow stuff - you can't go wrong with pic related.

>>13243630
Pretty good. Little bit of brine and smoke but mostly honey sweetness.

I'll stick to beer.
I think I'd go full alcoholic if I tried liquor or spirits

>>13244270
For $62? Hard pass

>>13244373
to each their own

I enjoy trying new things and memorizing pointless information, so...

>>13236814
All poisonous trash lol. Kinda autistic to argue about the best poison

>>13236814
Nah Cognac is the best, too bad it costs so much

>>13245108
Armagnac >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cognac

>>13245138
No idea what that is. Pls explain I'm too lazy to google

>>13245144
tl;dr: It's distilled once instead of twice. Cognac is distilled twice. Armagnac is more flavorful because of this.
Cognac uses only Ugni Blanc grapes, whereas Armagnac uses four different grape types.
Armagnac is also a much better value because it's not nearly as memetic. You can get a 25 year old for around $70, and the kind of dark chocolate and dark dried fruit notes you'll get from it will be something you can't generally find in spirits at that price.

>>13245175
Cool I'll try some out next time I'm buying liquor. Thanks anon this is why I actually really like this board

>>13242362
it's pretty h*cking good

very dry for a rum through

>>13245175
>>13245181
something else to note is that armagnac places a much higher value on vintage, whereas cognac is almost always a blend

armagnac is in effect double-distilled, but they use a hybrid pot-still-column-still setup that gets you better extraction and control while also proofing higher

cognac, especially the mass-produced stuff, places an emphasis on honey, warm spice, and toast, whereas armagnac is a little more reigned in and can have a much brighter fruitiness

>>13242970
I have no idea what the fuck a thujone is, but FDA is absolute garbage

>>13236875
Someone needs to shop the scissors in their hands into glasses if this is going to keep getting posted.

Are there any drinkable peated blends? My store is horrible and doesn't have any smoky single malts.

>>13246570
Johnnie walker green

>>13246575
This is BARELY peated.

>>13246570
smokey joe

>>13236814
Because you are an actual man Anon, with large, pronounced and very powerful balls. Possibly also a menacing shaft but, in the very least; balls to be considered of ranks with the great Titans of Greece.

>>13245175
Well shit I like cognac a lot and I didn't even know this.
I know what I'm getting at the liquor store next, thanks anon

>>13236830
I fucking love absinthe so much, but why does possibly my favorite spirit have to be like $70 a fucking bottle to get the real thing and so easy to drink? I've got some St. George and some Sirene right now and they're both entirely too good. I see why the wine industry felt threatened.

>>13243108
The Pernod I had was alright. Not my personal favorite, but it was a great introduction.

>>13236973
Gin is a contender for my favorite spirit, and my most consumed. Favorite is Monkey 47, then St. George Botanivore, then Uncle Val's botanical (though Val's is my favorite in tonic, straight fucking skittles). I've tried so many others and honestly enjoyed all of them (save for a dry rye gin) on some level. The botanical family is my preference, but the terroir family is such a good outdoorsey drink.

>>13236814
I've never gotten too into whiskey in general, but Scotch, as well as Japanese whiskey that takes after Scotch, has the most of what I find interesting in whiskey. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good Bourbon too, but if I want something to slowly sip and contemplate Scotch just does it so well.

>>13238181
I have a whole dripper setup for my absinthe, but (and forgive me father, for I have sinned) half the time I mix it in my cocktail shaker. Honestly tastes exactly the fucking same. But the dripper is fun!

>>13245108
>>13245138
Both are nice in their own ways. I need to get some more armagnac though, been a while.

>>13237610
American settlers are sweeter. More candy toffee flavors. Cherry and spice. Peanuts. Lots of sweet.

>>13239106
Actual dark and stormy is shit since seagram's have a copyright on the name. It has to be made with seagram rum and "ginger" "beer". Their ginger beer is a ginger ale, straight and simple. No bite and no flavor. It's sweet lightly flavored soda water.

>>13242963
Nah, I like it as a drink. I like tea, I like coffee, I like beer, I like spirits, I like cocktails. I like them so much that I've made a hobby out of all of them. I make beer and liquor, and I source my tea and coffee while paying attention to proper temperature and steep time. I give it the same love I do my cooking. Why are you here? For (you)s? Are you so desperate for attention? Well here you go, buddy.

>>13243108
so can you only drink pernod or can you drink pernod and chartreuse?

>>13245859
Most rums these days are back sweetened. Because of this they're typically quite sweet. You can have 36 grams or more added to a 750 ml.

>>13242963
Try anything else than shit-tier vodka and you might get a hint, retard

>>13246717
it was goslings that copyrighted it

>>13246771
Haha shit. Thanks.

>>13236814
Pic related is so good it has ruined more lives than all of your hipster shit combined. Opt for the plastic bottle of course.

>>13246839
Best flavorless vodka but I can't drink it straight

>>13246622
Cry more tiny baby

>he pays more than $10 per 1.75 L of vodka

>>13247126
>he's an alkie

>>13247133
I don't even drink vodka anymore. It's just that it all tastes the same mixed, and why the fuck would anyone drink vodka of all things neat?

>>13247137
there are good sipping vodkas out there
there's also a moderate rise in quality from absolute bottom-barrel stuff and things that cost an extra 5 bucks, typically an additional round or two of distillation at the least

>>13247144
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/5.22
Enjoy your placebo.

>Going to Czech visit family, want to bring a Canadian Whisky for my uncle
>Apparently he likes sweeter whiskey like Jack Daniels Honey (I know, technically not a whiskey)
Anyone know any good options? I'm thinking Forty Creek with it's almost rum like sweetness might be a decent option but am open to suggestions.

>>13247148
holy fuck nigger something can be neutral and harsh, or neutral and smooth

something distilled three times will be of lower purity than something distilled seven times

>>13247144
>there are good sipping vodkas out there
Ah, yes, the nose on this one is exquisite, with delightful notes of ethanol and water.
The palette is surprisingly different from the nose, however, with lovely, fleeting notes of water and ethanol.
The finish is long and sublime, as the ethanol and water notes tantalize the tongue for seemingly days.
A truly exceptional sipping vodka.

>>13247154
>as to be without distinctive character
"Harsh" is an example of distinctive character. Learn to read.

>>13247161
>ctrl+f "harsh" your example you sperg out and link every thread
>0 hits

imagine starting arguments on the internet over there being differences in quality of vodka

>>13247166
You implied vodka can be harsh or smooth. Vodka cannot be harsh or smooth in the United States by law because, by law, it must lack distinctive character, and "harsh" and "smooth" are examples of distinctive character.
You are either retarded or pretending to be retarded for not being able to follow this logic train and understand what I meant by >>13247161

>>13247149
Sweetest Canadian whisky I tried was Pike's Creek. It's a 100% corn mash so expect cloying levels of sweetness. I didn't much care for it but there's higher end stuff that was featured in the northern border collection.

Forty Creek has higher end bottles too, might be worth a look.

>>13247149
Knob Creek Smoked Maple.

>>13247186
>"harsh" and "smooth" are examples of distinctive character
you draw this conclusion and yet there is no evidence that these are classified as distinctive characters in your own source
you're pulling claims that support your viewpoint out of your ass
something being distilled 7 times is also a distinctive character, prove me wrong
vodka proofed at 170 will have the distinctive character of more ethanol on the palate

>>13247187
Always wanted to try Pike Creek but for some reason never got around to it, will try to give it a shot before I leave. Also heard the Copper Pot Forty is exceptionally smooth, might be a good option for someone who normally drinks 70 proof """whiskey"""

>>13247190
I appreciate the suggestion but apparently bourbon is pretty common in Czech, they were pretty big on the stuff before Scotch started to move in on the market, so I'm trying to stick to something local they probably can't get there.

>>13247186
Then that isn't enforced because there are degrees of smoothness. Even bottom shelf vodka add vegetable glycerin to help smoothness, but are still harsh. More expensive vodka can also use glycerin. Fancy boys say it ruins the texture of vodka.

>>13247206
"Harsh" and "smooth" are examples of distinctive character for anyone who can pass an 8th grade English exam.
>>13247224
A blind test would wreck your placebo-ridden shit.

>>13246650

>>13246839
Pic related is the worst fucking “vodka” I’ve ever tasted. It comes in big fancy-looking glass bottles and is still so bad tasting that they need to put it on sale for $15 a 1.75L bottle every month

>>13236814
Because the scotch market is large / competitive and everyone is taking their shit seriously. You rarely see long age periods (>10 years), cask strength, barrel finishes and peat in other liquors.
Beer improves with age in a barrel, smokiness does work well. Only craft breweries bother.
Wine ages well in a barrel. Fortified wine ages even better (and have higher abv), but everything on the market is young.
Gin ages well in a barrel and is better at higher abv.
Rum does very well with more age (you rarely see over 10 years), high abv and wine cask finishes.
Tequila does well with peat. I haven't had anything finished or high proof, but I haven't been impressed by barrel aging.
Brandy calls 10 years extra old, I haven't seen anything high proof, barrel finishes work well.
I would like to try some barrel aged ciders but I've never seen it.

None of this is common. Why?

>>13247629
Wtf are you even talking about

>>13247629
>equates whisky with scotch
>thinks his bullshit opinion matters

>>13243189
>enjoying hard liquor makes you a non-soy boy

>>13246570
The 6 isles

>>13247186
In what world is smooth an example of distinctive character?

>>13247834
>equates whisky with scotch
I'm not seeing it man. Are you responding to the right person?


>>13247645
>What is the best liquor, and why is it scotch?

>>13247616
MY MAN

>>13242963
I personally like the strong taste and the burning sensation a decent drink has

Sorry in advance for the blogpost.
Recently tried Remy Martin Louis XIII cognac.
It’s about $4,000 a bottle.
Definitely the most expensive liquor I’ve ever tasted. I believe a shot at a bar goes for about $280.
All of us who tried it agreed that it was pretty tasty but not worth the price tag. Price was not really a concern since it was a gift from a very wealthy family friend.
My point in posting is only that highest price does not necessitate best flavor. I personally enjoy laphroaig, balvenie, and lagavulin scotches the most. As for blends, monkey shoulder and blue label are also delicious but equally as tasty.
So that said, paying more than $200 for a bottle of booze is not something I would do. It’s just a fun tradition to break out an expensive bottle during a special occasion to celebrate. Also confession- when my friends are already plastered and want me to have them try some special scotch, I usually have a decanter of Seagrams or crown royal and they literally can’t tell what it is, so I’ll pour them a heavy dram and have them tell me all the tasting notes they get from “top shelf stuff, not sure what’s in here, may be a glenmorangie...you’ll have to tell me”

>>13248362
>Also confession- when my friends are already plastered and want me to have them try some special scotch, I usually have a decanter of Seagrams or crown royal and they literally can’t tell what it is, so I’ll pour them a heavy dram and have them tell me all the tasting notes they get from “top shelf stuff, not sure what’s in here, may be a glenmorangie...you’ll have to tell me”
Just tell them it’s some 35yo $4,600 bottle and that their dram would cost $600+ dollars each at the bar. Free drinks for you the next several times you go out.

>>13247262
What placebo shit? Vegetable glycerin is added to plenty of vodka. It's sweet and thick, so it affects texture and helps with harshness of alcohol. You're not making sense.

>>13247629
12 year and up is big in bourbon. So is barrel proof. We have about as many options at my store as scotch and they're both given their own aisle, so that's a fuckton of bourbon and scotch.

Smokey old mezcal is also available. Tequila doesn't allow for smoke by the protected product rules. They're pretty strict about it usually. Gotta go for mezcal. It isn't peated, but the agave is charred while roasted.

Rum flavors can get really overshadowed by wood. The hot climate makes some rums over even 8 years unbalanced. There are good examples of extra old rum, but I often feel they'd be better off blended.

>>13236814
Pic related taste like swamp.

>>13249001
Oh, and rum moved to age and finish in France is a thing. Extra old rum that's been aged in France tends to be more balanced. I've had some wine barrel and brandy barrel finished rums. Unique is how I'd describe them. Not something I'd reach for every day.

>>13249032
It tastes like if you laid your head down on the road behind one of the back tires of a 500 horsepower sports car and open your mouth as wide as you can while the driver does a 30 second burnout

>>13241544
Evan williams doesnt make ezra brooks my main guy

>>13241473
SEE THE ICE

>>13247616
Honestly from what I've seen fancy looking bottle are pretty much just trying to hide sub-par drinks, spectacle over substance and all that

>>13249032
>>13249122
It's the second worst-tasting peated whisky behind Talisker.
Ardbeg and Lagavulin are the good stuff.

>>13249275
Willett is a perfect example. Mediocre for the price. It's midshelf at best, next to buffalo trace and maker's.

>>13236833
>Needing sugar because you can't handle the taste of alcohol.

>>13239317
>>13239389
>>13240036
>>13240275
>>13242400
>>13242924
>>13244116
Thanks for all the suggestions. I ultimately went with the Glen Farclas 12 and am finding it highly satisfying.

>>13249540
>he can't recognize the cocktail in the photo
>he thinks all cocktails add sugar
>he thinks all cocktails include non-alcohol components

lmao fucking poorfag zoomers. go back to chugging your fireball and smirnoff or whatever

>>13236963
Cocktails were originally for men for two reasons, to hide the taste of swill and to get sailors to eat some Goddamn fruit. It's no surprise that the "old fashioned cocktail" is just liquor with a bit of sugar and fruit.

>>13236937
This shit is good.
>>13242883
But I haven't had it since visiting Guatemala in 2007, so maybe this is true.

>>13237449
From what I understand the gin and tonic was most popular with commonwealthers in India, where it was indeed "properly warm" and the quinine protected against malaria. I do enjoy one occasionally during my Texas summers.

>>13249001
>12 year and up is big in bourbon
I wouldn't say that, though I'm not American. There's really a lot less Bourbon than scotch available on the international market, especially if you don't count the reduced alcohol content versions. Not that it needs the extra age. Peat and sherry finishes would go over well though.

I have had a smokey mezcal, it was delicious. I've only ever seen the one though.

>rums over even 8 years unbalanced
Bundaberg (Australia, hot) makes some fantastic rums, all of them about 10 years old, and I must say they still taste young as a 10 year old scotch might. The best are beautiful spirits nonetheless, but I don't see rum as being too different in flavour profile from malt whiskey. Other NAS rums have been even worse in terms of youthful character.
As for being overshadowed by wood, the older rums I've tried have not been woodier than a typical bourbon.

>>13249049
I would be very keen to try some of that. It's not something I've ever seen.

>>13249463
I really don't see how you're drawing those distinctions.
Ardbeg and Lagavulin are bonfire and ash smoke respectively, which represents both ends of the spectrum.
Is it the base spirit you take issue with? Lagavulin is slightly nutty and Talisker's spice and brine?

I don't disagree with you that Ardbeg and Lagavulin are the best, but Laphroiag really isn't that different.

Also there are other, worse peated whiskeys. I'd probably place Ledaig and Caol Ila near the bottom (though I do still like them). Ardmore Legacy dead last.

should I drink tonight