/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13199472
Small portions.

>>13199472
>carbs making you fat
Off yourself Stacey

>>13199477
westerners btfo

>B-BUT I LOST 50 POUNDS
>Still a obese fuck anyways
Keto is obese fatty cope.
Even the "regular" BMIs in America are considered obese there

Smaller portions, less fat, less sugar, more walking, probably some genetics.

>>13199472
Because calories are what matter for weight, not macronutrient ratios.

>>13199502
>Genetics
Law of thermodynamics fatbro

>>13199472
>Why are people in Asia so thin despite eating so many carbs?

1) we walk everywhere
2) we used to eat very little protein so everyone looked malnourished
3) for you ignorant Americans: modern Chinese are pretty fat

>>13199507
Genetics and gut bacteria can affect how efficiently your body actually absorbs digested foods. Not breaking the laws of thermodynamics at all. It’s not the biggest factor by far.

>>13199507
The human body is not a Carnot engine.

>>13199507
You think the human body is some bonfire where all energy just get used up indiscriminantly? Metabolism is complex.

>>13199511
Still no scientific evidence for Asians having skinny "genetics"

>>13199517
Yes.
Calories in calories out facebook mom.

diabetes

>>13199508
It's difficult communicating with someone who has a rudimentary grasp of english, Deng. How many years of shitposting do you have left before they'll let you see your wife and kid again?

>>13199521
That’s definitely arguable. I don’t know anything about the subject, just that metabolism can vary by individual.

>>13199508
Im in japan for a month and ive seen a few fat japs

>>13199524
The human body isn't a perfect food to energy converting machine you do know that right? Also if you actually knew the laws of thermodynamics you would know that they only apply to closed systems, the human body isn't one.

>>13199472
because they know not to eat when they're not hungry you fat fuck

>>13199655
I was there for 1 week and in all of Tokyo I saw exactly 1 fat guy.

>>13199493
I hate keto too, but most people's experience is
>Decrease carbs
>Increase protein
>Stop drinking soda(way less empty calories)
Wtf ketosis made me lose 50 pounds!

>>13199703
those (really) fat ones don't go out you dummy

>>13199524
>implying you can calculate calories out

>>13199708
The soda thing is bullshit. if fat people could actually lose substantial amounts of weight just by cutting out soda calories then all the ones who switched to zero calorie / diet soda would be thin. In reality you only ever see fat people drinking diet soda. Cutting out soda calories is just a lazy fat person distraction from eliminating the actual sources for the vast majority of their calorie intake which is food.

>>13199472
Anyone else remember when the Asians used to be the fatties.

>>13199472
asians have higher metabolisms
went there on study exchange and its comical how they would go hungry mere hours after a big meal
you'd see petite girls just wolf down bowls of rice and complain about being famished later on

>>13199472
Asians used to be considered sloppyfat, but the west eventually got fatter after a couple of decades of lax immigration.
Asians is majority Asian, and kept the same build over time while the western nations got diversified.

"Genetics for obesity" have been isolated but they're for the brain (appetite) not fat cells.

>>13199930
Immigration has nothing to do with obesity rates retard. You could eliminate all immigrants from the obesity stats and the US still ends up in top 20.

Fat people can't accept that they don't have any willpower over their addiction

>>13199472
Tiny milkies > tiny babies
It changes, though.
Recently a 2m tall gook delivered a package for me. Nice guy, we had a chat.

>>13199771
You can get a fair estimation of how much you can consume, and there are plenty of caluculators that can also give you a fair estimation of how much you burn outside of exercise.

People dont like counting calories because that means they have to hold themselves accountable and own up to the fact that theyre fat lazy faggots.

>>13199916
thats anecdotal as fuck and doesnt prove shit. A large bowl of rice doesnt even have a ton of calories.

>>13199805

in a lot of developing countries fatties didnt switch to diet sodas yet so there the cutting on soda thing might be true. but yea for 1st world fatties who live on coruscant its true but not on tatooine.

>>13199472
I lived in Japan for 12 years.
they
>only eat until they're satisfied, never until they're full
>eat a lot of food that's negative calories, like konyaku for example
>small portions
>dont drink soda, drink water and tea instead so well hydrated
>exercise daily with a focus on cardio and actually playing sports instead of liftan'.
>they see meat as what actually makes you fat, so they only eat small amounts of meat and eat more fish.

>>13199493
What is the BMI for Japan then? How thin should I be according to them?

>>13199502
>less fat
>less sugar
you dont know anything about asian cuisine do you

>>13199511
>>13199512
>>13199517

fat cope

>>13199472
Shitty cutlery

>>13199805
You're mistaken because only retards drink diet soda and those same retards when they happen to be fat retards will eat an entire pizza with their diet soda and think they did something to slim down.

>>13200274
They use sugar and fat, just consume far less than yanks.

>>13200706
Sugar should be illegal

What makes you fat is the combination of curbs and fat and the rice contains almost 0 fat

Fish is fucking loaded with fat, Asian diet isn't low fat

>>13199472
They burn up a lot energy by utilising the power of Kung fu in their daily activities.

>>13200671
I can certainly go without the extra 200+ liquid calories when I eat a whole pizza. Im active enough that that is maintainence. Do that everyday and suddenly I',m not gaining wait!! drinking diet soda is a better alternative.

>>13200757
If you do or don't get 200 calories in you're still going to be pretty close to the same weight. Fat people really need to stop eating until their weight is under control. Their issue is the 3,000 calories of food, not the soda.

>>13199992
>Immigration has nothing to do with obesity rates retard.
You're a lying bag of fat faggoty shit.
Fat Niggers, Spics, and Muslims with no self control make violent fat niggers, spic, and muslim babies. The US eased up on immigration requirements for visas, and citizenships in the 90's, and let waves of dumb fat violent Niggers, Spics, and Muslims in the country who ended up spawning rotund human shitbags by the dozen. The diversity raised crime statistics as well as obesity.
Asian countries maintained their ethnic majority in their countries, so their obesity did not fluctuate significantly.
>Inb4 b& for posting facts.

>>13199521
They don't have skinny genetics.
They are genetically "smaller" on average, but still get fat. Some Asians like Tibetans have a special "brown fat" that keeps them from shivering, and the other orientals used to have a higher body fat percentage which used to thought as a result of their high soy based diet.

>>13199992
Top 20 is a retarded metric given there aren't that many top tier countries around where the living is good.

>>13199477
Japanese eat the same amount of carbohydrate as Americans

the only difference is japs eat like 90% rice (boiled) whereas Ameriblubbers eat mostly wheat and potato (fried)

>>13199472
No fats, it’s the same reason they never invented soap

>>13199511
For sure you have parasites making you fat

>>13201451
Fish has fat

>>13199472
Because carbs don’t make you fat

They burn a shit load of calories getting raped by tentacle monsters for hours at a time. Haven't you learned anything from this website? Also, some Asian girls have huge dicks and they ejaculate like a water hose. That takes a lot of calories, y'know. They also get a load of exercise chasing eachother around, trying to yank eachothers panties down. When Asian girls finally do eat something, it's usually just pussy and a cup of tea after.

Asian men burn a shit load of calories maintaining the permanent erection they get from being around Asian women and their constant perverted antics. Let's not forget all of the blood they lose out of the nose.

>>13201439
[citation needed]

>>13201512
So it's fat that makes you fat, right? They need to bring back my Wow chips already.

>>13201451
Do you know how ramen is made, retard? Or all their fried food?

>>13201776
No, it's ingesting more calories than you expend that makes you fat.

>>13201505
>Fish has fat
Fish can't have fat. Swimming's the best form of exercise.

>>13199916
delusional fattie
Just stop overestimating how much food thin people eat and underestimating how much you eat.

>>13200737
No, eating more calories than you expend makes you fat, retard.

>>13199507
true in essence, but 1 calorie of fat is not the same as 1 calorie of carb

>>13199472
Portions+being active constantly. Thats why anon

>>13201307
No amount of social engineering or right wing death squads will ever make you not repulsive to women.

>>13200671
Artificial sweeteners taste sweeter than sugar. That's all it is for these people; they have no intention of losing weight, they're just addicted to the sweetest things they can eat regardless of diet considerations.

>>13201765
>reddit tier humor
>reddit spacing

>>13201883
>incels think spacing like a non schizo is a bad thing

Stay

Fucking

Triggered

>>13199805
I lost 13 kilos in 3 months after stopping all sugary drinks entirely. After having an endoscopy, colonoscopy, multiple ultrasounds and thorough blood tests, they found no other cause. It sounds ridiculous but in my case it worked wonders. (even though I wasnt fat beforehand)

>>13201904
You sound mad, did someone hurt you?

>>13201904
Paragraphs are not meant to be separated by blank lines. Literally every book would be written "like a schizo" according your tranny logic.

>>13201904
Not that anon, and I don't usually complain about people who put extra line breaks in their posts, but on 4chan extra line breaks do look pretty obnoxious. Almost all devices people will read your posts on will render even what seems like it would be an OK enough sized paragraph in the box while you're still typing as long, weirdly separated spaghetti lines after you hit submit.

>>13199477
this. every fat american family member that i have believes that their bullshit fad diet will make them less obese. a caloric deficit is all that they need.

>>13201512
This

>CARBS BAD
God I am looking forward to when this wank is debunked in 10 years and I don't have to hear morons shouting it literally every time food is mentioned in conversation.

>>13201904
>>13201931
>>13201934
>>13201883

if i hear this bs about spacing one more fucking time i swear to god i am going to shoot up 4chan

>>13201936
>Don't use line breaks, think of the poor phoneposters!

>>13199472
Asians actually eat vegetables on a regular basis. Shocking, I know.

>>13199472
Superior genetics.

>>13201842
Yes it is, that's why it's 1 calorie

>>13199472
did you never watch crouching tiger? asians fly from rooftop to rooftop, it takes a lot of energy

>>13202353
carbs are fine if you're in shape

fat people shouldn't eat them if they want to lose weight though

>>13200706
Looks like the US is fat, because they let in a lot of people from all the high sugar, and the "no data" countries in for a few decades.
Also some of those no data nations are where the most obese people are from.

>>13201870
Reporting, and getting a mod to remove the post doesn't make what was written false.

>>13202353
Carbs on a carb driven diet is the primary source of energy, eat more of it than your body can burn off and you put on weight.
It's that fucking simple. It isn't inherently bad, and every single type of carb has it's purpose. Just like the allmighty Oatmeal breakfast for long term energy, and the godly banana mid/post workout.

So yeah if you're a fucking lardass you might want to cut down the carbs.

>>13201842
This retard doesn't understand what a calorie is

>>13199517
>You think the human body is some bonfire where all energy just get used up indiscriminantly? Metabolism is complex.
It doesn't matter, eating less will still make you lose weight if you reduce your intake enough no matter how efficient your digestion is.

>>13201512
>Because carbs don’t make you fat
They will if you're eating more calories than you need. A study I looked at a while ago said like 75% of the extra calories from carbs can be turned into body fat if you're going over maintenance calories. It also said like 85% of dietary fat will get turned into body fat if you overeat, so it's a little harder to gain weight with carbs, but still possible.

>>13202737
Carbs, protein, fat... Just stop eating as many calories. You sound like a retard

>>13199472
they walk/exercise, because there are
>Shitty roads
>Too many fucking cars
>Have smaller portions in smaller plates/bowls

>>13199472
Almost every single thing they eat is cooked and prepared from unprocessed ingredients. That means no added sugars, no added fats, no salt dumps, and no simplified carbs. Also, culture (overeating is incredibly rude, socialist medicine means price controls on food) and height (you need to force feed yourself to be overweight when you're short, which the supermajority of them are).

>>13199472
This thread made me get up at 2am and cook 2 cups of parboiled rice for no reason.

>>13203261
>they walk
>because there are too many cars
????

>>13203273
Yea, unprocessed ingredients like industrially-produced soy sauce, polished white rice, fermented sweetened fish sauce, dried and smoked tuna, and heavily salted pickled vegetables. So fresh and wholesome.

>>13199472
They don’t fry every meal

>>13200736
this, unironically

>fat fuck whitey eats bread, greasy meats, sugar rich food and drinks, cheese
>Why are asians so thin bros?
Sort you self out you fat fuck, White Americans are probably the most annoying people on earth you see anything that isn't covered in grease and call it a """"super food""""
Nasty grease balls

>>13203319
>greasy meats
>cheese
Fat doesn't make you fat fren
Mixing carbs & fat makes you fat
Even carbs on their own can make you fat faster than fat

>>13203319
>manlet rage: the post

they walk a lot and eat fuck all calories

>>13201774
just type it into google

>>13200736
word

>>13203295
>polished white rice
What even is that.

Why do people in Asia eat plain rice?

And they said white people are bland eaters

>>13199506
Post your waistline

>>13202867
Ok, cletus. Relax.

>>13203284
Bc ur fat

>>13200803
>If you do or don't get 200 calories in you're still going to be pretty close to the same weight
200 calories per day adds up pretty quickly. Yeah, what you eat is more important, but that soda sure as hell isn't helping.

>>13199472
they don't eat much, calories in caloreis out you know

>>13199472
Maybe because everything nutritionists taught you was a lie?

>>13201451
>assmad asians
Obviously if there was no fats they wouldn’t be alive, but the east never had enough fat to go around while the west had tons to spare, so the west invented soap while the east never did. Look it up, they literally never had soap before the modern era.

>>13203688
OH MY GOD you're one of those people who think EVERYTHING IS LE CONSPIRACY!!!! Everyone is wrong, thousands, or tens of millions of scientists, journalists, government agents, Jews, Muslims, chinks, niggers, spics, Anglos, doctors, health inspectors, atheists, feminists, LGBTs, Democrats, and bankers are all conspiring against YOU. Fuck off you brain dead moron, you guys ruined 4chan, you systematically ruined every single board on this site. All of you should be imprisoned fir causing so much cultural damage that now a bunch of idiot zoomers who don't even know what compounding interest or bear options are think they can see right through the Shillary Foundation's globalist spirit cooking plan to impeach Trump.

>>13203553
>White rice is milled rice that has had its husk, bran, and germ removed. This alters the flavor, texture and appearance of the rice and helps prevent spoilage and extend its storage life. After milling, the rice is polished, resulting in a seed with a bright, white, shiny appearance.

>>13203696
>says this when they unironically believe in a white power conspiracy based off preferred promotions

>>13203696
Wow I should have given your post a whole read first. You actually believe the impeachment inquiry is legitimate? Are you the definition of sheep?

>>13203714
I don't care either way. The REAL conspiracy is that everyone does shit for money. Trump shouldd be impeached, not for colluding with the Russians but for delivering on none of his promises except to the rich. I don't watch TV anyways, only retards watch the news thinking their vote matters. Hahahahahahahahaha those who pay attention to politics are stupid as fick.

>>13203704
Do whites promote each other over shitskins? Sure. Is that a conspiracy? Depends on how you define conspiracy. If you seriosuly think whites don't promote each other over shitskins, either because of racism or philosophical similarities, then you're retarded.

If you were white would you rather promote the loud nigger who won't put some goddamned headphones when listening to his nigga nigga hoe hoe bullshit or the profeasional cumskin who comes into work and knows how to keep his garbage music to himself? If you were racist would you promote a nig or a crackker?

>>13203727
You’re stupid as fuck, probably not white I’m guessing.

>>13203734
Lmao look how you had to phrase the question you worthless nigger. try taking any reference to race out of your post and read it again you might realize something for once in your retarded dark skinned life

>>13203740
It doesn't matter what your question was, everything I said was true.

>>13203744
What’s true? That’s pieces of shit are less likely to be promoted?

>>13203744
Also what question you retarded fucking nigger, genuine subhuman intellect I swear

>>13203735
Prove me wrong. What has Trump done for you? He's decreased the shitskin unemployment rate, he's let in millions of border crossers, he hasn't done shit for you. You still support him because nazitards desperately crave a strong leader. That's what you need in your life, a dom. You don't deserve to eat good food, you should be eating stale bread rations under a fascist aristocratic ddictatorship. Go away, I actually value my freedom. If I want to cook some shitskin recipe from Bangladesh, I will. You groyper fags would ban everything outside Europe because it's too degenrate or non white or some shit. I LIKE CURRY AND I'LL EAT IT, FASCIST DICTATORS CAN GET LYNCHED IF THEY TRY TO TAKE AWAY MY CURRY.

>>13203748
No, OBNOXIOUS pieces of shit are less likely to get promoted. Sociopaths get promoted all the times, but the sociopatha who listen to crack cocaine fuck a hoe eat a hoes ass nigga nigga nigga loud on speakers won't get promoted.

>>13203754
>I actually value my freedom
>supports the banning of free speech, the taking away of our guns, thinks the government should have more power

>>13203760
God you’re so fucking dumb you should really be contained in africa.

>>13203766
What???? People that lie like this need to be imprisoned. I never said I support banning guns. In fact I have 20 guns myself, and I live in North Dakota, not the coastal shitties like most people here do.

>>13203766
YOU are the one who wants to give the Gov't more power. I hate the Gov't. I hate Trump, Obama, McConnell, and whoever else, I don't give a rat's ass about politics except when it affects me. You lie, it is you FASCISTS who want to give the govt more power to rule you and fuck your asshole with. Fuck off.

>>13203784
Who else is going to be elected if not trump? That’s the real reason they need to hammer so hard on this impeachment, there is no one to beat him. That’s not just a problem for the left either, we don’t have another candidate. If you don’t want the people pushing for an end to “hate speech” and gun control then you need to support trump.

>>13203586
Faggot

>>13203793
HAHAHAHAHA Trump is controlled opposition. They make your your only chouces are shit and piss so they can get you to drink piss. Congratulations, you fell for it.

>>13203801
>I fell for it
>implying I’m not ready for a movement if there is one

>>13202731
>>13200749
Cheesy reddit tier humor.

>>13201439
>Japanese eat the same amount of carbohydrate as Americans

no they don`t

>>13203273
>(you need to force feed yourself to be overweight when you're short, which the supermajority of them are).
Are you literally retarded? Short people gain weight more easily. Not only your BMR is generally smaller the smaller you are but the same amount of fat in two people of varying height will obviously make for a higher fat to body mass ratio for the shorter person.

>>13199651
Age, muscle mass, food intake, activity level, etc. Being young and muscular is guaranteed to have high metabolism.

>>13203414
Nice copout.

>>13201934
You also can't indent on 4chan, you retard.

>>13199472
By not overloading everything with sugar

>>13201936

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>>13201439
Americans get about 50% of their caloric intake from carbs while Japanese consume about 60%carbs.
http://chartsbin.com/view/1154

>>13200037
did you have sex afterwards?

>>13201934
Youre not an author, youre a fat incel triggered by standard altsc 32 line spacing

>>13199493
Reminder that Keto, originally, was used for patients who suffered specific kinds of strokes kek. Ketocucks are truly delusional

>>13202353
It's:
>Carbs=Unnecessary

>>13204356
what do you think "had a chat" means?

>>13203273
Every single sentence in this post is wrong.

>>13200737
>What makes you fat is the combination of curbs and fat

>>13199805
Do you have any idea how many calories are in soda?

>>13205246
There's like 85 calories in a 200ml glass of Coke.

>>13202353

carbs are poison. moron. idiot.

Traditionally their carbs came from a small bowl of rice a few times a day and little to no refined sugars. Dessert is not even part of the traditional Japanese meal. Carbs from starchy staples like bread and rice, when not paired with 100g+ per day of sugar, will not make you obese on its own. However if you are trying to actively lose weight and reset your metabolism off sugar addiction you have to cut it all out for a few years until you get yourself sorted and can slowly add grains back.
>>13199655
They are indeed getting fatter. Directly correlated to the increase in western eating habits.

>>13205280
Yeah, that's why the countries with the highest life expectancies and lowest obesity rates have a carb-heavy diet, obese retard.

>>13205299
carbs /=/ refined sugars

>>13199472
tapeworms

>>13205303
Yes, and the literal idiot I replied to said carbs are poison.

>>13205305
They are when your body is running on pure glucose. Instead of starches getting broken down and used fairly quickly, its added to the overflow of existing sugar in the body. In a modern context its all poison.

>>13202365
Based

>>13205276
Excactly, but most people who drink soda regularly will drink way more than 200ml

>>13205299

I have a 19.5 BMI. Any other moronic thoughts you want to share, carbtard?

>I have a 19.5 BMI. Any other moronic thoughts you want to share, carbtard?

>>13199472
it's almost like carbs aren't this god awful thing that's destined to make you fat if you consume it
cals in cals out, bitch ass niggas

>>13205481
Average amount of soda consumed by an American daily (and this average doesn't include the people who don't drink any soda>>13205481
) is 2.6 glasses, AKA 0.65 liters or a little over 20 oz (the size of those vending machine soda bottles).
https://news.gallup.com/poll/156116/nearly-half-americans-drink-soda-daily.aspx
>inb4 this is an average and not the extremes
The average American today IS overweight, so it's actually a good number for how much soda is consumed by the majority of overweight people.
So again, that's a fatty distraction to focus on. It's not going to change their weight in any significant way whether they have that 200 calories of soda or not. Their problem is the 3,000 calories of food.

>>13199916
retard alert

>>13202980
but fat is WAY more satiating, thats why people lose more weight on low crab diets

>>13206104
you clearly don't understand how statistics work.
1. 20oz of soda is more like 300kcal at least
2. that statistic means nothing without further information. it encapsulates every daily soda consumer without any delineating factors. the average will be brought way down by people who just have a little bit of soda every day. to get any kind of understanding, you would have to perform a regression analysis that plots the relationship between obesity and soda consumption. I can guarantee you that most of the actual obese people 30-40+BMI who consume soda daily have way more than 20oz a day.

>>13199916
this is a perfect word for word description of the idea of refined carbohydrates causing wild fluctuations in insulin levels resulting in constant hunger

>>13206174
70% of Americans are overweight. That average is as good as you're going to get. If anything it might even be unfairly tilted by excessive soda drinkers since A) they outnumber non-fats 7 to 3 and B) the average excludes everyone who drinks 0 ounces of soda daily. Also it's an average and not a median so it suffers from the same warping you would get if you took a room average of incomes with 50 janitors in attendance and then Bill Gates walks into the room.

>>13206174
>20oz of soda is more like 300kcal at least

What soda are you thinking of, friend? Not him, but 20 ounce Coke is my vending machine goto and it ain't 300 kcal.

>>13199493
>>13200263
The guidance on healthy / unhealthy BMI is backed by life expectancy data, not opinion. Asian ideal BMI is lower by 2-5 points because their life expectancy starts dropping at a lower BMI than in the US, not because they're holding themselves to a higher standard.

>>13206652
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

All Asian men are skinny fat.

>>13206065
Calories in calories out is one of the biggest memes ever. Why do we keep spreading this over simplified bullshit?

>>13208309
Yeah, bro, thermodynamics not real.

>>13206168
>low crab diets
The issue is probably that most people are eating refined grains which aren't as satiating. Not saying fat is bad, but unprocessed carbs are definitely way more satiating than the processed forms.

>>13199472
you clearly don't understand carbs nor weight loss and probably are americuck so I can't blame you for that.

Asian here. You don't even want to see my wrists. I just don't get it, I eat so much but I can't put on ANY weight.

>>13199472
literally
genes

>>13208424
>I just don't get it, I eat so much but I can't put on ANY weight.
Thin people overestimate how much they eat and big people underestimate when talking about this. Add more fat to your food, eat more often, and drink more milk or something with calories and you'll gain weight. No reason to do this unless you're actually underweight though, otherwise you could just try exercising to build a bit of muscle if you aren't already.

>>13208427
literally
put down the fork

>>13199477
>all those small portions comments
kek, I had girls in my Chinese cafeteria eat three times the portion I was eating two years ago. It's just that many people in Asian countries don't eat four times a day but often only 2 or maximum three times. They also eat a lot of freshly cooked stuff, mostly with vegetables. I fucking dare you to gain weight by eating normally (not bulking on purpose) and only cooking meals with vegetables, rice, and maybe meat

>>13199805
I'm not a fatty, but I have lost like 7 lbs when I cut out soda from my diet. It helps a bit.

Why are you fat?

>>13200743
Most asians don't eat fish, they eat pork and chicken. Coastline is far for most asians.

>>13208508
Everything in this post is retarded.

>>13208508
>fish only come from the sea
>what is fish farming

>>13201325
>mfw I have a lot of brown fat
Feels toasty man. Seriously though, everyone liked cuddling with me when they find out. EVERYONE.

>>13208520
Except it's true. Most asian cuisine is based around those two meats.

>>13208521
Fish farming is a recent thing.

You're both confusing asia for japan. Japan eats a ton of fish because it's relatively easy to get and get fresh.

>>13208532
You're apparently unaware freshwater fishes and molluscs exist.

>>13208532
>Fish farming is a recent thing.
No it isn't. It's literally been done for thousands of years.

>You're both confusing asia for japan.
China produces the majority of farmed fish. You're also ignoring that fish can live in rivers and lakes and that it's not only from coastal areas.

>>13208551
And you're unaware how relatively hard it is to get fresh water fish and mollusks vs farming some chickens and pigs who pretty much take care of themselves.

>>13208532
>implying japan is not asia
>implying south east asia is not asia
>implying coastal china is not asia

these regions eat a lot of fish

>>13208555
You must be retarded or something. Fish traps and other ways of catching fish effortlessly are a thing and have been for a long time. Same for crustaceans. As for molluscs it's not as hard as people imagine. With that said, of course nowadays with a fair number of rivers going fubar it might not be as easy but let's not pretend it's always been the case.

>>13208558
>implying russia is not asia
>implying the rest of china is not asia
>implying the south west asia is not asia
Jesus christ, that's the majority of asia. What part of most of Asian cuisine is not fish do you not understand? MOST. Hell, there's more than just pork and chicken, but most people don't want to think about it.

>>13208607
Tell you what, open up a traditional asian cook book. Most anywhere, save for probably japan, has a very small cuisine section for seafood vs most any farmable animal.

>>13208615
>what is population DENSITY

you know that the "Asia" part of russia is is literally siberia and 99% empty?

just east-south coastal china alone is 750++ million people today

>>13199708
Why'd they make Eddy a weird little Hulk/Igor combo when in the show he has negative muscle definition?

>>13208619
How is a modern day cookbook made for foreigners going to help your argument? It's literally made with ingredients that are rather easy to find in the west. Of course you're not going to find recipes which call for dark sleeper or asian catfish if the people reading it literally have no way of procuring it.

>>13208644
>traditional asian cuisine book
>MEANT FOR FOREIGNERS
I seriously don't know what to say to you.

>>13208688
Have you ever read a traditional asian cookbook? Because I sure as hell can't fucking read chinese or thai or vietnamese and if if's written in anything other than those or other asian languages I can already tell you it's not fucking traditional.

>>13199472
because asians

>>13208625
So is US, canada, and europe. You still don't say any of those eat majority fish.
>but they have access to waterways!

>>13208705
You do know there are other things you read traditional cookbooks for other than cooking, right? There's academic reasons and cultural reasons, some people look up these cookbooks to learn, and they make them in other languages for that reason.

>>13208765
Yeah? Then find me an asian cookbook written before 1900 translated into english that prove you right about fish dishes and I'll shut the fuck up.

>>13199472
Do they? Or do they OFTEN eat carbs?

Count their caloric intake, nutritional balance and compare that average to that of the US. There are plenty of fatsos in Japan as well, and they don't eat healthy. Location on the globe has no effect on calories' efficiency.

>>13199472
its easy
burgertards live to eat
schlitzaugen eat to live

>>13208760
wtf? fish is very popular everywhere

>what is catfish
>what is trout
>what is salmon
>what is sardines

cantonese is the most widespread chinese cuisine and its heavily focused on seafood

>>13208813
And what do you live for, kraut?

>>13208831
probably for my depression
you have to remember (((they))) make more money with sick people than with dead people
remember what (((they))) took from us

>>13208831
on top there is my eating disorder, i feel guilty after a meal, very guilty

>>13199472
because they don't eat like pigs, unlike amerilards.

rice isn't as refined as corn syrup

>>13203980
All that sugar consumed in North America? Nah those charts are way off.

Daily dairy that westerners eat make us fat, simple as. 1 slice of pizza is equal to 20 pieces of sushi, not talking about calories but my stomach state

>>13199477
This.

>>13199477
Basically this.

>>13209485
What the fuck is this supposed to mean?

>>13202867
Or because you ride you stupid mobility scooter everywhere and don't get any exercise.

Burgers: Eat 4,000 calories daily, throw in a salad as a snack because it's healthy. "Why am I fat".

Asians: Rice and a tiny amount of meat each meal, would classify as a kid's meal in America. Stay slim.

>>13200736
>Added processed sugar should be illegal
ftfy

asians don't actually eat much rice. Koreans and Japanese eat very small bowls of rice.

>>13199992
>You could eliminate all immigrants from the obesity stats and the US still ends up in top 20.
You'll see a lot of
>no data
for the fatest nations, and immigrants in the top 20's that you use to prove your point.

>>13210650
>mobility scooter
I'm not a "white" Arab.
>>13203596
>Cletus
Reminder that Muslims have the highest rates of inbreeding in the whole world.

>>13211139
i thought japs and quebecois held that title

>>13211148
>>13211148
>i thought japs and quebecois held that title
Nah. Muslims have held the undisputed title belt for inbreeding.

>>13199493
That's because BMI is a shit measurement. It works okay for a medium build white American who undertakes marginal exercise. The nips are shorter, lighter and not so muscular.

>>13208465
look up traditional Japanese rice bowls. look and see how big they are.

>>13199477
Fewer meals, actually. My family has daily feasts that would put fat burger americans into a coma but that is more or less the only meal. Late afternoon or early evening when everyone is home from work or returned from other daylight activities. If it is a particularly physical person or hard day ahead there will sometimes be a breakfast meal of equally intense size, but this is rare.
>t. /fit/ and azn

>>13211537
>t. /fit/ and azn
Timestamp pls

>>13202737
>fat people shouldn't eat
FTFY

Fatness is cancer, fasting is the answer.

>>13211556
If you need to fast to not be fat chances are you're a fat fuck already.

>>13211561
Spoken like a fat fuck who needs to put the fork down for a few months.

>>13211561
>fatass detected

>>13199472
because only retarded westerners think carbs make you fat. animal products are what make you fat.

>>13211537
I'm guessing that you're family us filled with delusional databases who try to pass off their tubby frame as skinny, because they think that they're within a range instead of acknowledgement of lighter bones, and smaller frames.

>>13211602
>carbs dont make you fat
>eating animals makes you fat
i see you are a man blessed with 47 chromosomes

>>13199805
You're forgetting that your body at a biological level doesn't know the artificial sweeteners in soda aren't really sugar and still reacts the same way to it. Even though there aren't calories in it it will still cause your insulin levels to spike making your body more likely to convert food preferentially into fat.

>>13211586
Not my fault that you need to larp as a monk because you're too much of a gluttonous fuck to not stuff your face beyond your TDEE.

>>13203696
>>13203727
>>13203734
>>13203754
>>13203744
>>13203760
>>13203784
Based schizo poster.

>>13209485
Not saying your point overall is wrong but 20 pieces of sushi is going to be way more calories than a single slice of pizza.

>>13211656
Both make you fat if you eat too much
/thread

My guess is that asian people tend to eat a high carb low fat diet where as americans have a high carb high fat diet.
Also japanese have a high diabetes rate despite the body fat

>>13199708
tfw still fat and everyone just tells me to stop drinking soda despite never drinking soda

>>13199805
Fatties drink diet in public because of shame. They 100% drink it when nobody is watching.

They do it with food as well.

>>13211537
Who OMAD here?

We fuck a lot, fuck white bitches with our rittle dingdongs whire you white americans watch haha

FUCK YOU AMERICANS HAHA CHINGCHONG

>>13212765
your post made my back hurt. it is very awful.

>>13212218
wrong. you eat unlimited amounts of vegan "carbs" and you will never be fat. ever.

>>13212508
>tfw still fat and everyone just tells me to stop drinking soda despite never drinking soda
I believe it. Something most everyone does that really grinds my gears is feeling the need to make up some retarded trick story explanation for any problem they're looking at. It's like the obvious normal ways problems come up in real life aren't convincing enough for them e.g. obesity epidemic couldn't have been caused by lots of people eating more calories than they should; it must be that older generations drank soda as a special treat on rare occasions only or corn syrup replacing cane sugar in soda altered fat people's metabolism. And people getting chronic diseases like Ulcerative Colitis can't just be one of many examples of a naturally occurring immune system / inflammation problem, it must be caused by modern food processing or macronutrient ratios. And of course everyone has a list of "inflammatory" foods they believe are the cause of all modern suffering even though the correlations between specific foods and inflammation are inconsistent and weak in general, because that gives them a bad guy to focus on instead of the more disturbing reality where no one food or drink's elimination will do anywhere near what they imagine it would.

>>13208297
Based schizo poster

>>13212419
>he still thinks eating fat makes you fat

>>13213979
Sorry for misunderstanding. I don't think that eating fat correlates to gaining body fat.
In fact l lost around 15 pounds or so just by cutting carbs and eating more fish and fatty dairy.

I think that eating carbs and fat in high amount results in body fat but that is only my speculation

>>13212938
Vegans and the obese are disgusting animals.

>>13212938
Pretty sure beer and chips in vast amounts make you fat. It's probably real hard to get fat on healthy vegan options though.
Like whole grains, vegetables and pulses.

>>13199805
there were news articles of studies done by scientists regarding diet soda and found that artificial sweetness still tricks your body into believing you are drinking a sugary drink still releasing insulin and whatnot and sometimes its even worse

>>13214237
I get that it could trick the body to release insulin but how could it be worse? Regular soda also triggers a response and contain actual energy? You don't remember where you read that article?

>>13214183
You realize chips have so many calories because of all the oil needed to process them right?

>>13214264
Here is an actual Dr. explaining why artificial sweeteners are bad and can actually be counter productive to weight loss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVvHbi0bZPM

>>13199472
They don't eat as much meat and sugar. Inb4 keto junkies.

>>13214435
Yeah sure. But it's still about 60%carb and 30% fat so people tend to think of them as a carb heavy food. You're fine eating boiled potatoes as long as you don't overeat which is easy to do with chips and hard to do with boiled taters.

>>13199477
Wrong, you dummy.

>>13208309
It's real, but people choose to ignore it because it's easier to try another diet (read keto) instead of eating less. When in reality when the reason you go down in weight after keto is because you stop eating snacks with a billion calories

>>13199472
Because carbs don't make you fat despite fat westerners blaming bread and potatoes on their obesity.

>>13217223
This.

>>13199472
smaller portions, and they still do real work for a living. This is actually changing as these nations become more modern. China is currently facing an obesity epidemic.

>>13218617
That’s how you know women are driving the obesity epidemic

>>13218617
>obesity epidemic.
>look it up
>literally only 5%

>>13201904
Stop
This shit

>>13202365
Do it

>>13199472
Calories in, calories out. But unironically.

>>13203794
Point proven.

Because your family constantly fat shames you.

>>13218957
Thermodynamics don't care about your feelings.

>>13199472
Half their life is walking and the other is worrying.

>>13214264
I don't know any of the details but my guess (and that's all it is, a guess) would be:
>our small intestine has tastebuds which don't link to our brains but to other sections of the nerve system
>artificial sweeteners link better to them and create a stronger signal than small sacharides, but aren't taken up into the bloodstream
>synthesizing/storing saturated fat is promoted by the signals from these receptors, maybe even more than those from glucose receptors in/around veins
>stronger sweeteners in the gut promote more fat storage than glucose in the blood unless we're talking full blown diabetic blood sugar levels
this is all conjecture, I don't know the ins and outs of our metabolism or how insulin/glycogene function