/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13167557
Is that image implying that people eat bees and monkeys?

>>13167557
What did I make? A nice bloody steak from some slaughterhouse where the cow probably suffered. Can’t wait to do it again and own you vegan losers again LOL!

>>13167565

Got him! You showed him haha

>>13167560
uma delicia

I gave up meat but I don't know how you guys gave up eggs and cheese.

Like what do you put on a breakfast sandwich?

>>13167565
Edgey
Are you sure you're on the right website with that much edge?
>>>/clubpenguin/

>>13167560
Deforestation kills monkeys and honey kills bees.

>>13167560
>monkeys?
Monkeys are a brazilian delicacy.

>>13167577
>Edgey
ROFL Leave it to a vegan liberal to whine about meat...

>>13167574
make vegan pancakes instead?
desu I really don't see the point on giving up those.
But they are not that hard to live without

>>13167586
>implying
>typo
Leave it to an edgy teenager to troll outside of /b/

This weekend I made burritos and ate those, rice, beans, refried beans, jalapenos, salsa

>>13167574
tofu scramble exists if you really want eggs, you can make cashew cheese or use daiya if you really want cheese

>>13167736
I'm lazy as shit, I can see myself buying something like this to eat in the car going to work

>>13167758
those aren't vegan, that's real egg and cheese

>>13167767
how about this

>>13167777
I've had this before, they are fucking delicious. Nice lucky quads bro.
Tofu scramble is so fucking easy. It takes less time than scrambling an egg. Get it warm, scramble, add seasoning, done.

>>13167777
"seitan and seasoned tofu" that sounds like a tofu scramble burrito

>>13167767
Here try this. It's my go to home made mcdonalds breakfast copycat.

what you'll need
>morning star sausage patties or one of those logs that you can shape into patties yourself
>any type of vegan cheddar cheese slices
>vegan english muffins (most should be vegan by default)
>Tofu
>kalam namak (indian black salt)
basically slice the tofu into steaks or a huge circle if you dont mind having odd shaped tofu later on. Press it dry and fry it as you normally would. Sprinkle the black salt (this stuff gives it an eggy taste, perfect for breakfast sandwiches)
flip it when you have a nice golden brown fry on it. then sprinkle a bit more salt (be careful because it's easy to go overboard and have it taste too salty) and place a slice of cheese. By the time the other half is fried the cheese should be melted.
If possible, fry the sausage patty in another pan or choose which one you want to fry first (tofu or sausage). toast the english muffin, assemble and bam, seriously just as good as a mcdonalds mcmuffin.

ENJOY!

>>13167825
since you're just seasoning the surface that sounds like the tofu would be really bland... just like a mcdonalds egg, good job

>>13167832
Trust me the black salt is extremely powerful and it's one of those things were a little goes a long way. And plus, frying it gives it a bit extra flavor. I use the black salt on my tofu scrambles and it tastes like scrambled egg. It's very sulfuric and mimics the taste of egg yolks quite well.

>>13167557
>declares vegan thread
>posts animals looking mighty tasty
I'm getting mixed messages.

>>13167840
Just bought some black salt, thanks bro

>>13167586
Youre the real liberal hear...

>>13167840
honestly thanks for the advice, i never made tofu scramble before and was considering it, what kind of peppers and veggies do you like to throw into yours?

I had black bean dip and plantain chips last night. Came out surprisingly well for being made in the blender.

Doordashed some Chipotle today because I was feeling lazy. Tomorrow I'm gonna make fried pickles for lunch. I got daiya ranch to go with, anyone know if its disgusting?

>>13167849
My pleasure. From what i've read eastern indians like sprinkling some in their lemonade and mangoes. I tried it on mangoes and I don't get it but yea it makes a mean tofu scramble. I forgot to add something in this post
>>13167825
I usually add a dash of mustard, some nutritional yeast and black pepper on the tofu to give it more flavor.
>>13167832
thanks for reminding me because yea it is a bit bland without these extra seasonings. I usually just estimate the amount of each seasoning but I'm sure you anons will figure it out.

>>13167848
>>13167565
We dont troll on every single one of your dumbass, lardbrain fast food chicken and burger threads so dont troll here

>>13167565
Thanks for showing us what the definition of an insecure incel sounds like, anon!

>>13167860
mushrooms, onions and if I have any bellpepper. Sometimes broclettes if I have any.

>>13167863
Daiya ranch is fucking delicious! It's more similar to ranch dip rather than ranch dressing like hidden valley. If you can get your hands on Just Ranch, they make the copycat ranch dressing.

Someone teach me how to make the perfect tofu scramble please. I've been vegan for roughly 4 years and have never tried to make it. Which tofu do I buy? Silken? Extra firm silken? Extra firm pressed?
What do you put on it, etc? Can I use the non-refrigerated tofu?

>>13167891
Use extra-firm, refrigerated tofu. Press it yourself. Don't press too much or it will dry out. That part takes practice. Use canola oil and bok choy in your recipe for best taste.

>>13167891
the basics of a tofu scramble are

>seasonings
black pepper
nutritional yeast
black salt
mustard

I usually make it with extra firm tofu, avoid silken it tastes weird and the texture is similar to a thick jello. I usually just cut a slab off the brick of tofu, and with a napkin wrap it around the slab and squeeze it over a sink. Don't take all the moisture out, leave a little bit. Then what I usually do is get the pan hot, put some oil, fry some onions, add some garlic (fry for a little bit, enough to release some of their flavors but not enough to where they're fully cooked, you want them to cook with the tofu)
then you throw the tofu in the pan and break it up into semi large chunks (as it cooks and you stir it around it will continue to break down, so don't break up the chunks too small) let it fry for a little bit then add the seasonings. Let it cook for a little bit longer and bam, it's done.

>>13167918
Based. Is there any quick recipes for silken tofu? I know it's more of a cheese or yogurt substitute and it doesn't need to be refrigerated so you can buy a huge case of it for dirt cheap. I just can't find anything easy to make with it

>>13167938
From what I've seen, silken is usually used to make sauces, creams and to help thicken up smoothies. I personally don't enjoy the flavor of it so I don't use it anymore.

Not a vegan, but I figure you guys could help me.
What is a good low-effort way to get more vegetables in my diet?

>how do you know if someone's a vegan? they'll tell you XDDDDDD
>makes a containment thread to put vegan recipes in and talk about veganism
>heh... I eat MEAT. I eat DEAD COW. and PIG. and CHICKEN. mmmm... bet you're so mad right now.... retard vegan. why don't you eat some meat soy boy
I'm not even vegan but christ, literally boomer tier hypocrisy and dissonance

>>13167983
I'd say start with the simple tasting ones, bellpeppers, onions, spinach. Then experiment with the more complex tasting ones such as asparagus, brussel sprouts, kale,, arrugula, different types of squash.

also root veggies taste great when pan fried on a grill mixed along with your protein of choice.

>>13167986
I just ignore them. Responding only inspires them to keep going at it.

>>13167983
buy fresh (farmer's market if you can, whole vegetables at the supermarket otherwise) and eat them as a snack, even if you don't eat snacks right now. cutting up vegetables and storing them gives me something to do when I'd pretty much just be sitting on here and whining.
find vegetables you like, first of all. remember to steam your vegetables, boiling usually just makes them taste like hot ass.
if you don't shy away from fat/oils, frying vegetables as a side or part of a bowl can never go wrong. roasting is more timely but makes up for it by being generally tastier and lower on fats.
also, try to learn more Indian cuisine. indians tend to use a lot of vegetables (and poo) and their food doesn't taste bad either

Roasted cauliflower with zaatar spice and tahini sauce. Amazing!
https://youtu.be/vj1VEMPQUrM

Decided to try mashed cauliflower when I saw it at the store. When it was all said and done it had the texture of apple sauce. I ended up throwing it away.
Is that just how mashed cauliflower is, or should I try making it fresh next time?

>>13168038

>>13168038
haha wow ebic troleled have my upvote stranger!!!1

>>13167986
Wish you had a tripcode so I could see who the non-vegan with the brain is

>>13168066
yeah just throw in the towel on that one. Why not spicy cauliflower and mashed potatoes?

>>13168066
I think Chef John has a video on mashed cauliflower. I don't think it's vegan though, but it looked really good.

>>13167557
I'm sorry but vegan food just can't compete with this. Nothing you can make will taste better than anything in this photo

Veganism is an eating disorder.

>>13168121
We made a containment thread so we wouldnt have to deal with you peopl
>veganism is an eating disorder
>what do you mean my diet is unhealthy? I only weigh 300 pounds... at least im not one of those anorexic vegans xDDD

>>13168114
Sorry, it was Foodspin
https://deadspin com/how-to-make-mashed-cauliflower-because-it-goddamn-tast-1691475353

>>13168139
It is an eating disorder. If you could admit you have a problem and actually seek therapy, you might even get better.

It is just an excuse to restrict calories without drawing a lot of suspicion.

>>13168066
> just how mashed cauliflower is
I've had it fresh a few times, it's definitely not mashed potato, but if I'm intentionally going for the healthier option, I like it. It definitely needs to be well drained, or it'll be soupy. Also, I'm not vegan, so I do add a fair amount of butter; I'm not sure if substituting an alternative would effect it any more than anything else.

I asked in the last thread, but it 404'd for no apparent reason. What's a good vegan recipe that a filthy carno might enjoy? I've got a couple nice vegetarian recipes up my sleeve, but I'm having trouble wrapping my head around how to break away from butter and cheese without losing flavor in meatless dishes. I sorta came up with an avocado oil fried portobella sandwich thing, but I really felt that it needed a slice of cheddar to round it out. Also, I don't do fake food, so tofu in a miso soup is totally acceptable, but not tofu as a meat substitute.

Thanks.

>>13168154
I've been vegan for a year and a half. My doctor tells me I'm better than ever. I have a healthy BMI and I eat 1700 calories per day. Stop projecting

>>13168154
t. never met a vegan in real life
do you think vegans just eat leaves and celery all day? lmao
oreos, cheeseless pizza, mashed potatoes, and french fries are all vegan, and vegans eat a ton of it. hell, vegans eat a ton of anything as long as you find a suitable meat substitute, and to be truthful that's what 99% of vegan recipes are.
I've met very few vegans who lose any weight besides the initial shock water weight when they switch over.

>>13168154
>t. u hab eatn disordr

>>13168139
What an accurately herbivorous image of a vegan

>>13167918
tfw my store dosen't have black salt or tumeric...

Well, lets try for the 5th time to get this thread on track. Everyone tell me what you put in your stirfry with this based ingredient. For me, its bok choy, spinach, mushrooms, and of course rice. I also like to make peanut sauce from scratch.

>>13168305
yea you might have to order it online. It's not too expensive and you usually get a lot of it. Just be sure to store it in a plastic bag or glass jar with no metal. I have it in a glass jar with a metal lid and it's corroded it and I can see rust building up under the metal/tin twist lid.

>>13168312
Soy curls are fantastic

>>13168305
I live in flyover country and even I have that shit in my town... Where the hell you live?
>>13168303
Get your triggered ass out of our thread, libtard

>>13168318
idk this grocery store (a small restamped kroger, dillons) has weird priorities, nobody here in this town eats proper food anyway, just banquet meals and junk food, I feel like I've seen it on the shelf but it dosen't exist in the app so it might as well not exist in the store... they have nutritional yeast though thank god

>>13167585

I gave up monkeys for lent.

>>13168345
>lent
btw what's up with that
>they told me I couldn't eat meat for jesus's sake so I'm eating nothing but fish and cheese

>>13168345
Nice

>>13168345
I bet god is so proud of you for not torturing intelligent animals for a couple days, shows such discipline.

Are christcucks really this retarded?

>>13168354

I gave up arguing with retarded twits for lent, too.

>>13168375
Calling people that seems so unChristian of you my friend.

>>13168385

Fair enough.

I gave up arguing with clueless atheists for lent.

>>13168236
In what fucking universe are mashed potatoes vegan?

>>13168394
James 3:1-12
;)

>>13168312
How do you make peanut sauce? Peanut butter or whole peanuts? Got some chili in there?

made pasta aglio olio the other day

>>13168400
>mash a potato
>oops a piece of bacon flew in my window and landed in it
>classic potatoes not being vegan

>>13168419
the recipes I've seen call for peanut butter, soy sauce and some type of chili sauce/paste and sesame oil.

>>13168400
if you really need to add cream cheese and butter to potatoes there is options for that which are vegan

>>13168400
I've made mashed potatoes with fresh garlic, potatoes, olive oil and salt. I whipped them extremely well with a wooden spoon and got a nice, creamy consistency. There's also vegan alternative butters.

>>13168419
>>13168470
What he said. I also like adding a dash of rice vinegar to mine, a little sugar and garlic and other stuff to taste

>>13168473
some cilantro and onions would really elevate them I feel like

>>13168400
>Mashed
>Potatoes
?

>>13168482
never thought about adding cilantro. I'll give that try next time. Usually I'll have onions on the main dish/protein but yea I can definitely see it working in mashed potatoes.

>>13168394
>Clueless athiests
That's rich. Go eat more monkey brains you disgusting animal

>BEING VEGAN IS SO HARD
Mfw

>>13168482
>Onions
Yes
>Soap
No

For the vegans and vegetarians on here, why did you choose to be vegan or vegetarian?

>>13168493
>This sperg literally eats veganesse and calls it a diet

>>13168525
Tbh I always thought why not if I was on my own but then eventually after I moved out I forgot then realized it would force me into better habits such as actually having to cook and caring a little more about what I eat...
Environment and animals are cool too I guess.

>>13168525
Desire to be able to restrict calories in a socially acceptable manner.

Easier to refuse food by saying you are vegan than admitting you have an unhealthy relationship with food and your body.

>>13168535
I'm a little in my first year still but I have started trying to extend it to other products I buy, such as clothes and bath products

>>13168525
Because the thought of people torturing innocent animals makes me sad. When I did my research before switching over, learning that it's good for your body was just an added bonus for me. I'm definitely healthier now and I pay a LOT more attention to what I eat and why

>>13168538
This faggot is STILL lurking this thread. I'm happy to know us vegans live in your head rent free.
>Hey want a burger?
YES
>Want a pizza?
>YES
>Want wings?
>YES
>Wait, how do I weigh 350 pounds all the sudden? Oh well, it's the vegans who are in the wrong. Yeah. That makes sense.

>>13168538
>You have an unhealthy relationship with food and your body.
Are you retarded? Are you trying to argue in favor of intuitive eating or something? In what way is "eating whatever anyone sticks in your fat face" a healthier "relationship with your body" than a diet based on vegetables?

>>13168492
>the epistemological answer to life is so simple every 14 year old boy has figured it out

>>13168567
You really think I'm gonna take philosophy classes from someone on 4chan who eats monkeys?

>>13167557
I made a steak. That was vegan food because the COW was vegan!!!!

>>13168582
Your boomer joke was literally already posted as parody earlier in the thread
>>13168139

>>13167557
but plants have feelings as well

>>13168462
Nice. Keep up the good work, anon

>>13168606
Plants don't have brains and neither do you.
(The argument you make is never made in good faith anyway, you know for a fact that plants do not experience pain the way an animal can.)

I tend to have respect for those vegans and vegetarians who can articulate a good reason for being one -- things like religion or for specific health reasons or because of finances. But not when it is just on a whim or some misguided ethical notions.

>>13168595
Nice, I'm using that bad hunter one later. That's a good one. Meat consumption FTW.

>>13168606
>plants have feelings

Funny.

>>13168616
Vegans are smug arrogant shitlords who think they are better than everyone else and that everyone else needs to accommodate their eating disorder.

We should chain them all up and force feed them meat until they pass out.

>>13168616
>Religion good
>Misguided ethical notions bad
What did he mean by this

>>13168623
>I'm gonna punish them by feeding them food I like
>W-what do you mean? It's not a micropenis!
>>13168618
Ok boomer

>>13168616
Imagine thinking finances is a more articulate reason to make a huge lifestyle choice than well-thought-out moral choice making. Wtf.

>>13168622
do clams next

>>13168707
Google ostroveganism retard

>>13168710
I wish everyone with a "special diet" was sent to an island and nuked.

>>13168120
>A bunch of greasy instestines
>Nothing will ever be better
You just have not eaten much food before...

>>13168713
Way to distract from the topic at hand. The topic at hand being you, the fat uneducated sperg

>>13168719
You and your entire family should be murdered because you have an eating disorder. There is no legitimate reason to refuse delicious meat and dairy other than because you have an illness and refuse to get help.

>>13168622
>needed a picture to make sure it's a joke
Vegan intelligence, everybody.

>>13168721
What size bra you wearing these days, anon?

>>13168725
Without the picture, meatcuck retards would continue to pretend that they can't comprehend plants not having feelings. Just look at your buddies:
>>13168606
>>13168707

>>13168754
Meat and dairy are delicious. You live once on this earth. Denying yourself their pleasure is irrational.

>>13168757
It's okay, anon, you can be honest with me. We're friends. How big are the dairy tits getting? Almost to their own milking size I hope? Dick shrinking too? Good, good.

>>13168761
Insulting me won't detract from the sadness of your restrictive illness.

>>13168764
>He doesn't deny once that he has massive tits
HAHAHAHA fucking kek

>>13168764
I wish every fatass was sent to an island and nuked. You and your entire family deserves to be murdered because you are obese. There is no legitimate reason to weigh 600 pounds, type II diabetes is an illness and you refuse to get help.

>>13168766
>>13168775
Imagine being this buttmad because people correctly point out that you have an eating disorder.

Meat and dairy are delicious.\

You only live once.

>>13168710
Seems kinda based but I get the feeling no one actually follows this.

>>13168531
>implying
Retard, the point was cheap alternatives exist of everything you could want. You're too fucking stupid to understand though I guess.

>>13168623
>calling someone a shitlord
Holy fucking tumblr tranny

>>13168721
>eating disorder
Vegans live longer, have less nutrient deficiencies on average, and are healthier by miles in comparison to your bloodmouthed heart-disease cult. Reassess your life m8.

>>13168757
I would rather enjoy my later years by not being full of cholesterol, since life is so short

>>13168139
I generally agree but that image is plainly pathetic.

>>13169810
>cheap alternatives exist
If time is money then no, it's still ridiculously expensive compared to a casual diet. If you can afford spending time to cook yourself then yes.

>>13169826
Now compare them to people eating a healthy non-vegan diet mongrel.

>>13167565
I'm not even vegan but i went into this thread to see if there would be idiots like you

>>13167560
>UMA

>>13168154
t.obese amerilard

>>13167580
>honey kills bees
Your brain on veganism, everyone

>>13169915
Rice beans potatoes and oats are dirt cheap and piss easy to cook. Youre just a retarded zoomer cuck

>>13169826
>Vegans live longer
starting at 20 and dieing by 40 isnt living longer, also normans dont care about health, vegans generally dont smoke or drink

>have less nutrient deficiencies on average, and are healthier by miles in comparison

troubles and defficiencies with over 20 known nutrients, not to mention there lots of unknown essential nutrients, also every single legit veganigger is a gollum alike creature that cant do any sport

t. actual nutritionist

>>13167557
So, first off, I am not a vegan, at all, but I think I have a bit of a story to share. Maybe someone will find it interesting.

So today I have gotten an urge to it something... that was not whatever I had in the fringe. From my past experience I knew these cravings are always worthy of elucidation, and there is always something specific discovered at the end, that the body seems to need. So I start to think. Something oily, it seems, fried mushrooms? no. avocado? nnnnnnno. ... ..... sunflower seeds. Okay, have those, haven't touched them like a week but, befire that ate them regularly as food, instead of like porridges. Weird something in my organism would start to send me wake up calls already, but whatever, no biggie, guess I'll go stuff myself with sunflower seeds huh. EXCEPT THERE IS CLEARLY SOMETHING ELSE STILL MISSING. So I start think again. Pretty soon an association comes, like something you can crack with your teeth, like you would a fresh carrot - except not. No cabbage, no celery, fuck is it? (10 minutes later) FUCKING CHICKPEAS? Well, I mean if you soak them they sort of crack FUCK SOAKING I WANT THEM NOW, so I go buy cooked ones for like a gazillion times more than dry ones would cost me.
So I stuff myself with these cooked chickpeas and raw sunflower seeds, and I am like in heaven. So sorry to leave some of those DELICIOUS chickpeas for later so that not to cause indigestion. Still curious as to why the fuck would I need them.

So, here I am, like half an hour later, and I notice something in my lower body feels like really good. Like my prostate sending me a big wet sloppy "Thank you, bro", pardon my flowery language.

So, well, that was my story, hope someone will find it not a total waste of one's time.

>>13167557
A reminder, Lab grown meat is grown with ground up baby cow fetuses

>>13170112
An hour, actually. Also,
>an urge to eat something

>>13170112
pasta

>>13170232
Except not. Which you could easily verify through google.

Does it even matter, anyway?

>>13170109
Wrong
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
>males tend to live 7.3 years and females 4.4 years longer than their gender counterparts in the general Californian population

>Average vegan diets tend to be deficient in three nutrients, whereas average omnivores tend, unfortunately, to be deficient in seven.

[1] Results from the German Vegan Study. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition 57(August 2003):947.
[2] USDA. Food and Nutrient Intakes by Individuals in the United States, by Region, 1994-96.
[3] World Health Organization Technical Report Series 916. Diet, Nutrition and the Prevention of Chronic Diseases. 2003.
[4] Centers for Disease Control.
[5] Then you can finally answer their question and proudly say B12 fortified foods or B12 supplements :) Of course the fact that we're seriously deficient in B12 should not be taken lightly. Evidence suggests that our low B12 intakes make be shaving literally years off of the lives of vegetarians and vegans, so make sure you get your B12!--I recommend "Vitamin B12: Are You Getting It?"
[6] Tufts University Health and Nutrition Letter. August 2003. 21(6):2
[7] Journal of The American College of Nutrition 22(August 2003):296.
[8] Green Tea and the Risk of Breast Cancer in Asian Americans. International Journal of Cancer 106(August 2003):574.
[9] Journal of the National Cancer Institute 95(2003):1079.
[10] Public Health Nutrition 5(2002):29 and American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 70(1999):516s.
[11] Journal of the American Medical Association 282(1999):1283.

>t. 4chan sperg pretending to be a nutritionist
Fixed that for you

>>13170300
>implying i care what the average life span is
every single person in my family makes it to 90 and dies before 100.

>>13170308
Tits or gtfo

>>13170300
>vegan lifestyle has no impact on health gain just food
Vegans are a very small group of people who tend to be outliers in multiple ways beyond just what they eat including things like exercise and so on. This does not mean that vegan diets are healthier. There are multiple variables at play here being attributed to one which is bad science

>>13169915
veganism is cheap as fuck
if you go for meme vegan substitute foods like faux meats and vegan cheese and only eat exotic fruits or eat raw vegan or do any of the extreme vegan diets, yeah its expensive and time consuming.
getting grains and legumes from the bulk section costs basically nothing. peanut butter banana sandwiches cost basically nothing.

I have an indoor hydroponic NFT system that I use to leafy greens and microgreens.

Every day I eat a salad with kale. Lettuce, arugula, choi, and some kind of microgreens (today it's kohlrabi), with sprouted lentils, chickeas, tomatoes, onions, celery, chia seeds, almonds, walnuts, oats, peppers, cooked mushrooms, blackbeans, balsamic vinegar, salsa, and a little bit of peanut butter, and mustard. I mix it all together in a giant salad bowl and eat it with a fork and a serving spoon.

Then for dessert I have some strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, apples, oranges, and melons.

>>13170328
>t. can't read a study

>>13168163
>What's a good vegan recipe?
12 hours and 80 posts later:
>Long list of exactly 0 good vegan recipes
Yeah, I came into this with an open mind, but that's kinda what I was expecting, thanks.

>>13170590
Mashed cauliflower just aint that good

>>13170590
People do mashed cauliflower for the health benefits compared to potato, not so much because it's more satisfying to eat.

>>13170590
And if you're truly looking for satisfying accidental vegan meals, look up the many vegan recipe blogs out there that host a multitude of vegan recipes. The only way you'll find a good one to your liking is by trying a lot of them and seeing which ones you prefer. Try these blogs

vegan8
minimalistbaker
cookieandkate
itdoesnttastelikechicken
marystestkitchen

really just google top vegan recipe blogs 2019 and you'll find a bunch. I can't tell you which ones are the best because I'm sure what I think is good and what you think is good is different. Hope this helps in some way!

>>13167580
>Honey kills bees

>>13170476
That sounds absolutely delicious. I think i'll try something like this when the weather calls for it.

>>13167986
>vegans make thread to tell people that they are vegan
>this somehow disproves that vegans are attention whores

Stop eating meat, you haven’t earned it.

>>13170619
>People do mashed cauliflower for the health benefits
That's basically what I said, that I like it when I'm looking for the healthier option.

>>13170632
>The only way you'll find a good one .. is by trying a lot of them
That's not a very promising claim to make, it's like saying the only way you'll win the lottery is by buy playing a lot.

I'm starting to see why people don't like vegans. Even when someone says "Hey, I'd like to give this a shot, here's a genuine chance to convince me this is a viable option", your pretentious reply is "Just start cooking vegan all the time, and eventually you'll find something tolerable." No.

Went to grocery outlet last night and bought some frozen perogies, tater tots, and black bean burgers. Might not be amazing but it's cheap, tasty, and easy.

>>13167580
>honey kills bees

>>13170681
>I'm starting to see why people don't like vegans. Even when someone says "Hey, I'd like to give this a shot, here's a genuine chance to convince me this is a viable option", your pretentious reply is "Just start cooking vegan all the time, and eventually you'll find something tolerable." No.
I'm sorry that's what you got out of what I said. You don't have to cook vegan every day. Find a blog, look through the recipes till you find something that catches your eye and try it out. If it's not something you enjoy then try again some other time. I mean honestly you are asking a lot out of us when you could simply just experiment yourself and find out what you like. I'm sorry you're expecting more than you should here.

Have you tried indian cuisine? Falafel sandwiches? I mean seriously there's so much that it would be extremely time consuming to go through every dish for you, when you could discover them on your own in less time.

>>13170854
>What's a good vegan recipe?
>you're expecting more than you should
That was kind of my point.

In every other thread, people are all about sharing recipes and experiences with food. For Christ's sake, there's a half dozen threads on fast food and you'll inevitably find someone who's shouting about how to order off-menu shit like BLTs from McD's. All I wanted was to get a few good vegan recipes to try out. Either there aren't any, or no one wants to share any, and you're all just here to bitch about other peoples' choices without doing anything to change what you think is a serious problem. Thanks, Greta.

>>13170905
I'm sorry you're in a bad mood and I genuinely hope that you manage to overcome whatever is angering you. God bless.

>>13170905
It'll take me about a couple months but I plan on making proper image recipe things to share on here for vegan dishes that I tend to make quite often, and to me are very delicious. Please be patient.

>>13170912
>I'm sorry you're in a bad mood
Well, it's annoying when you ask someone a question about something they have more experience in and they expend several times the time and effort it would take to answer the question, avoiding answering it instead.
>I genuinely hope that you manage to overcome whatever is angering you
That's won't be difficult, I'm guessing you can't maintain muscle mass.

>>13170918
>making proper image recipe things to share on here for vegan dishes
Much, much more than I was asking for, but if you're putting together a compiliation for the community, I'd definitely be interested. Since I'm assuming it'll be a free-as-in-beer pdf publication, toss a BTC address in it, and I'll make sure to kick you down a couple of bucks, hopefully others will as well.

>>13170969
No it'll be free as in freedom. PNG's and what not. I can attain muscle mass fine by the way, please let us not turn this into an argument.

>>13170980
>it'll be free as in freedom. PNG's and what not.
I get the advantage of people being able to save just the recipes that they like, but for sharing the compilation, a self-updatable pdf would be better. Plus, I prefer being able to credit the person doing the work, but your call.

I guess I'll check back in a couple months then.

>>13171006
Have a good day and take care.

>veganiggers live longer
>its a kike ploy that started in 2010 and been full strenght shilled as of recently

Here's that new James Cameron vegan athletics doc.
https://youtu.be/xSChFnszI_E

I made black beans, pb&j sandwiches because I ran out of almond butter, and bagels/toast. Everything else was just fresh fruit and vegetables. I'm about to cut up a cabbage.

>>13170515
>calling epidemiology a study

>>13170969
Are you retarded? :DD

>>13168525
i had really bad acne but i didn't want to take isotretinoin so i tried cutting out meat and dairy to see if it would help. it's slowly improving. i have fewer breakouts, they're less painful and not as long-lasting, and less redness/inflammation on my face.

veganons, what changes did you notice after you went vegan? my asthma went away, i also have more energy and way better mood now

>>13171827
retinol is just super concentrated vitamin A

eat a bunch of carrots and sweet potatoes

>>13168167
>can't eat junk food anymore
>suddenly healthier
>wow it's a miracle, thank you vegan gods

>>13167557
Im gonna make myself a nice turkey sandwich.

>>13172070
Enjoy

>>13172045
The majority of junk food is vegan dude...

>>13172070
You really think this is gonna piss people off enough that its worth posting?
>How do you know if someone's vegan, they'll tell you hahahahah
>Hey guys did you know... Im not vegan?? B-) just thought everyone should know

>>13170633
As a vegan, its definitely a stretch. I eat honey and I dont really give a shit. Bee farming is super necessary for all kinds of plant food, vegans kinda need to get over the whole honey thing

>>13172104
And im gonna use Dijon mustard and gouda cheese, Tomato, salami. Probably some bacon on the side ,Or whatever im just make a club sandwich.

>>13172097
Snacks, yes. But fast food restaurants, pre-prepared meals and take outs are rarely vegan... perhaps there's a "vegan option", but most likely not.
What happens is people actually start taking their diet seriously. Being vegan is a quick gateway to watching what one eats, and that's very healthy and something everyone should be doing (watching what they eat, not being vegan).

I'm not vegan, but I enjoy going meatless several days a week and often find vegan dishes just as tasty as meat based dishes.

Here's something I made yesterday: Roasted sweet potato, quinoa, and sauteed portabella caps with chimichurri.

Tasty, filling, satisfying.

on an ethical front why is it not ok to kill animals but also not ok to limit human growth and reproduction especially of low caste people who serve as menial labor?

is it not ok to kill off the criminally insane in a pain free manner? for the good of society and least over all suffering?

>>13172205
>is it not ok to kill off the criminally insane in a pain free manner? for the good of society and least over all suffering?
The question becomes who is qualified to make that decision in an objective way?
Would it be okay for me to kill you right now for the good of society and to put you out of your misery?

>>13172109
Fake vegan. Bee enslaver

>>13172132
This is a facebook-tier attempt at trolling anon. You're a braindead TV-fried boomer or just a moron.

>>13167557
animals are property

/general

Went to the cinema today to see Peanut Butter Falcon, was an okay movie... tickets were cheap... but it made me realize I miss popcorn, because every theater douses it in butter

>>13170640
I'm doing the hydroponics indoors under lights so I can do it year round.

A great sandwich is whole grain bread, peanut butter, tomato, and pickles. Or, even better with pickled jalapenos.

I know the extra salt isn't super healthy and the calories are kind of high but it is the perfect combination of hearty, sweet, salty, and spicy. I could smash these sandwiches every day. You have to have a good tomato to really make it work.

>>13172266
>bee enslaver
bruh

>>13172700
I don't have a tomato but i got some pickles and pickled jalapenos, gonna try it

>>13172723
>>13172700
Just got back, add some nutritional yeast to it

>>13167557
I had sausage, eggs, toast with butter
granola bar for lunch
spaghetti and meatballs for dinner
warm glass of milk with cinnamon for dessert
I guess some animals died and others suffered for my meals, but I have to work every day so I suffer too
how about you, earth friend vegan bro pal?

>>13170476
I know somebody at work who is getting into microgreens but he's obsessed with the business side of things he dosen't seem like he's particularly big on eating greens (he works in meat department) I might have to see about getting hooked up from him

>>13172750
How about me? Im not as selfish as you

>>13167580
You do know that people are deforesting trees ot make room for farmland, right?

>>13168167
Post body

Every vegan I know is sick right now. I swear they all get colds way more often than the omnivores in our circle of friends. Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with a weakened immune system due to lack of sufficient essential amino acids, nahhhh gotta just be a coincidence, right my vegan bros?

Heh, you don’t even have to argue with me on it. Cause I know you’re already trying to convince yourself that you haven’t been sick more often since you started this, but deep down you know you have. And that’s just so sad man. You know you are hurting yourself but you’re letting the propaganda machine brainwash you into ignoring it.

>>13170633
>>13170844
Depends. American bees feed on pesticide laced crops so they don't live long. Also, American honey is diluted with corn syrup.

Veganism is the epitome of malnutrition.

Disgusting faggots

>>13172855
Not gonna post a picture of myself but I look pretty similar to pic related, I have more developed pecs for sure and slightly more developed abs, not a 6 pack but the center line at least. Probably a little more body fat than pic related too. 5'11, 165 pounds

>>13172925
Ah shit. I meant to post a cropped image of the guy on the right. Oh well. Im talking about the guy on the right

>>13172895
Okie dokie fattie

>>13172928
So you’re bragging about your awesome vegan body, and instead of providing a photo to back it up when called out, you provide two photos of other men. Why do you have photos of naked men on your phone anyway anon?

>>13172895
Gee I wonder who is behind this post

>>13172231
yes if that's how you see it.
that might qualify you as insane though, which would give anyone else the right to execute you.

>>13170109
Go watch game changers on Netflix then try to reassure yourself that you know better than the doctors scientists and athletes whose careers depend on their fitness

>>13172937
>He thinks Im a phoneposter
hi phoneposter

Anyway care to post your hot omni body?

>people talking shit in a vegan thread

Be nice they basically made their own containment thread. If you see any of them out of this you can redirect them here.

>>13172954
>t. good guy

>>13172700
Sounds delicious and definitely wil be trying later this week. Thanks.

>>13168139
I want to bully a skinny vegan girl now :3

>>13172878

I don't even remember the last time I was sick and plants have all the essential amino acids.

>>13172976
Same. Haven't been sick since going vegan half a decade ago. I used to be sick a few times per year. My bloodtest also comes back perfect every time now. I think veganism just angers incels so they make up bullshit.

>>13172980
I used to get sick every Autumn and every Spring like clockwork but not for the past couple years :)

>>13167565

I like to know the cow I'm about to eat was beaten to death with a golf club by a clown in a golf cart that was chasing it through the fields. Terror is tasty.

>>13172976
>>13172980
>>13172987
Comminicable viruses have nothing to do with your diets. It's about hygiene. Now I really want to find a cute, dumb vegan to bully.

>>13170590
Fried polenta, mushroom tomato ragu, spinach

Make tomato sauce normally but add portabella mushrooms and rosemary/Italian seasoning. Olive oil in hot pan toast some garlic. Fry both sides of polenta until golden brown. Cook spinach and season with lemon juice, evoo, salt and pepper.

>>13172998
>the immune system is not related to diet
Get a load of this guy, everyone

>>13172998
Viruses aren't the only way to get sick, there is also these things called bacteria and your own immune system. Also you should be replying to the person I was replying to who brought up vegans being sick all the time, not me. The purpose of my reply was that contrary to what they said, I have not been sick more often since being vegan. Learn to read.

>>13173000
does the tomato sauce go on the polenta, instructions unclear, where does the spinach go? on the side?

>>13173017
Sauce on polenta, spinach on the side. It really doesn't matter though you can eat it anyway you like

>>13173015
I am only willing to admit that you both are factually incorrect about the transmission of communicable viruses then.

>>13173028
Honestly sounds pretty good, I have some premade polenta that I haven't ate yet

>>13173030
You sure are a dense motherfucker

>>13173044
I accept your admission of wrongness, you cute, dumb thing. Can I bully you?

>>13173042
Give it a try then! Simple, quick and tasty

>>13173066
I was gonna buy related ingredients later this week anyway to make some pizza, with some cashew cheese

>>13173051
You have a weird fetish man. Tell your mommy to bring you some tendies so you can go play your vidya and stop bothering us

>>13173082
Ok, bye. Have a nice night. :)

>>13172359
>This is a facebook-tier attempt at trolling anon
>Trolling
implying that im joking u stupid nigger. Or did u forget where u are? Perhaps u should go back to r*ddit wherer ur kind is more tolerated.

>>13172946
>trusting le doctors and scientists
>literally being such a dicksucking faggot that you don't recognize animal cruelty and climate change propaganda when you see it

Vegan research = watching documentaries without critically evaluating the makers' intent or claims, ever
Vegan diet = swallowing boatloads of pills, sludge bowls, and nigger semen
Vegan future = premature aging, infertility, and owning multiple cats

>>13167565
Haha I'm vegan for health issues lol based and assumption pilled

>>13172890
I can't find a single US honey product that has corn syrup.

>>13173641
You chose the worst diet for your health.

>>13170112
Where are you from? lmao

>>13167557
kinda ironic that there's a bee in there since bee populations are getting devastated by pesticides and other chemicals used for plant farming as we speak. Same goes for rabbits (harvesting machines, pesticides), fish (pesticides end up polluting the seas and killing sea life, plus intercontinental shipping of tropical fruit and other plants and herbs), monkeys (banana farming).

>>13173719
I'll stick to my local, grass fed, humanely raised beef and dairy that requires no pesticides/chemicals, no intercontinental shipping, no harvesting machines.

Vegans are just anti-vaxxers of the food world. They do it for the fad, and because they don't listen to science that it is horrible for your health.
Not to mention you hurt the planet more for your overly farmed plant based products. Not to mention a lot of the substitutes you buy are so overly processed its horrible for. Before the "meh plants are healthy."
You lower you immune system ability to fight off sickness as well. Thats why you guys have to take a arsenal of vitamins to get to healthy balance. "Its so healthy!" then why do you have to do more to e on par with a normal omnivore human?

>>13173463
>i came in the vegan thread to post about meat
>no u reddit
Found the facebook-mom.
Lmao, fucking retard. Nice try though.

>>13173733
It's the other way around, bud.
Start here: https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en
Everything you said is the complete opposite of reality.

>>13173475
Again completely the opposite if you could read a single study or any data on the matter. You haven't thus you assume everyone is more retarded than you. Dunning-Krueger at its finest.

Carnism = accepting your boomer parents diet that has made them fat and unhealthy
Carnism = cancer treatment, heart medication, poverty from healthcare, animal abuse, ethical gymnastics, environmental destruction
Carnism = dying 7.8 years younger, looking 50 when you're 30, taking a pill concoction three times daily just like ur mum

Veganism is healthier, more ethical, and better for our planet. Keep trying to satiate your cognitive dissonance kiddo.

>>13173754
>NOO! U JUST CANT COME INTO A SAFE SPACE THREAD AND POST WHATEVER U WANT!
>Found the facebook-mom.
Sry i dont speak normie language wtf is a facebook mom? The fact that u even have cuckbook means u are an even bigger faggot than i imagined.

>>13167557
>"vegan for the animals"
>said animals don't exist because vegans don't eat them
>they could be eating grass-fed, organically raised animals, which had a good life but choose not to
Why don't vegans realize that their supposed moral superiority is based on a fallacy and that veganism is anti-life?

>>13173756
Veganism hurts our planet: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/going-vegan-isnt-actually-th/
Needs to fortify your weakened body: medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325283.php#omega-3-fatty-acids
Vegan food is highly processed: http://www.eatingwell.com/article/290804/what-exactly-is-vegan-cheese/
Horrible for your health: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/vegetarians-are-less-healthy-and-have-a-lower-quality-of-life-than-meateaters-scientists-say-9236340.html

>One source
>Source looks like a bad HTML website form the 90's
Not one thing on that website addressed any of my claims. You have no argument.
Nice bingo card btw, if you spent time researching instead of crying over a farm animal you'd be less retarded.

>>13173766
Lmaooo you're a fucking joke. Stay indoctrinated by Hollywood elites who want to use you to save le animals and take down the Orange Man

>>13173766
Where are these sources? Where are your facts? Just because you see a post on Reddit or Facebook that says this shit doesn't make it true.

Your a fucking Karen, have fun with your poor diet Boomer.

>>13173922
>>13173925
Sometimes I think it's better to feed their delusions and promote their corporate-sponsored cult ideology because it allows us to easily identify the gullible retards in society. Their malnourished bodies will serve as red flags, just like tattoos, piercings, and colored hair.

In a generation, these infertile soy-riddled bastards will be gone. Any offspring they have will be malnourished, brain-damaged weaklings, a cautionary tale, this generation's fetal alcohol syndrome.

>>13173756
Do us a favor and take a look at yourself in the mirror. Look at your acne riddled face that you cover up with "humane" makeup. Look at your Starbucks receipts that pile up from your overconsumption of caffeine because you lack energy. The cabinet where you stock the bottles of "supplements" you bought with a YouTuber's discount code. The prescription meds you use to control your mental illness. Your life energy is literally being sucked away from you by grifters. They prey on your insecurities by giving you a momentary high when they tell you you're smarter than the rest of us. The crazy thing is that your body is fucking dying and you think you're healthier than ever.

>>13173957
Its honestly just dumb how people follow these fads so blindly, then when pressed on the facts will either give no evidence on their claims or a so biased version that its laughable.

Notice his one website made by vegans for vegans. No sources to their claims as well. Its just humans lying to each other.

>>13174077
>humans
Why do you people talk like that?

>>13173985
Different anon but my skin is clearer than it ever has been and I drink mostly water

>>13167891
Hey man you lied to me, I made those fried pickles today and they were perfect and delicious but that ranch was nasty. Ended up dipping my pickles in a ketchup/tobasco mix

>>13173985
>Be me
>Acne went away after I stopped eating dairy
>I dont use supplements
>I dont use caffeine, but every meat eater I know does
>I don't wear makeup
>This dude jacks off to the thought of vegans doing those things
>He thinks the Illuminati wants people to go vegan, when veganism is the one and final redpill

>>13175135
>can’t eat dairy without getting acne
Imagine being a genelet and proud

>>13170632
>minimalistbaker

That stupid carnist bitch is a traitor.

>>13175135
>>13174144
Says the guy who's done vegan for a single fucking minute. You can't process animal products because your gut is weak, prob from antibiotics, plastic use, etc. You aren't getting acne because your stomach literally can't digest all that plant garbage, it's just flying out of your ass and you're getting fuck all for nutrients.

Come back in a few years when your teeth are falling out of your head, faggot. Can't wait to hear you tell me it's just the natural aging process :)

>>13172109
Honey isn't vegan because its taken without consent

>>13172109
>As a vegan
>I eat honey
oh brother

What are you guys doing for Thanksgiving? I've made a stuffed pumpkin before

>>13167557

>>13176864
I'm gonna stuff a pig with amphetamine and rape it with my intestinal bacteria, and my pig I mean seitan roll and by amphetamine I mean a sauce consisted of cashew cheese and onions and by intestinal bacteria I mean my desperate, bloodflow-lacking omnivore penis because I'm a beta meatcuck

>>13175232
I can't imagine being this retarded. An argument based on opinion and emotion. You can smell through your screen the tears coming from this triggered tranny.
>>13175232 = faggot

>>13175135
Veganism is definitely blue pilled, not red. It’s being pushed hard by the media, and corporate interest lobby groups. How the fuck is it possibly red pilled??? It’s not even remotely close to red pilled.

>>13177243
Sure it does. I kill all the deer that try to eat my plants. Then I turn around and sell said plants at farmers markets to vegans like you. Guess what, you’be got blood on your hands like everyone else.

>>13177699
What? Are you fucking stupid? Less than 1% of the population is vegan. Less than 10% of that population is vegan in MOST countries. The money doesn't want you to be vegan because Big Pharm and Big Ag make a shitload off of you for eating meats and unhealthy foods. If you're intelligent and can base your diet around health you're essentially giving a gigantic middle finger to them. Media has been antivegan since veganism has been a word.

Prove me wrong.

>>13176687
I just fucking love watching your little cult fights. Nobody judges a vegan harder than another vegan. It’s so beautiful.

>>13177738
Then why are all the (((dietary guidelines))) pushing for reduced meat consumption and plant based alternatives??? And why is every single study a vegan ever cites backed by (((them)))??? Go ahead, link me one of your favourite studies about meat causing heart disease or cancers, I’ll show you the authors ties.

>>13177738
>prove me wrong
*pays attention to the world*
Done

>>13177753
>Then why are all the (((dietary guidelines))) pushing for reduced meat consumption and plant based alternatives
because scientists and fucking intelligent people
>And why is every single study a vegan ever cites backed by (((them)))???
You've spent too much time on /pol/ if you think everything that gives you cognitive dissonance is _)))))__sdf_)f(g()(the JHEWS)))(DFPOL/DF/

https://www.cancer.org/latest-news/world-health-organization-says-processed-meat-causes-cancer.html

>>13176864
I was going to make a veggie pot pie. Already made one in the recent past and it came out very good.

>>13177767
You do know what a scientific study looks like right? Do you think the link you just pasted is a study? You’re not honestly that retarded are you?

>>13177767
Oh, the same scientists who hardcore screwed up in the 80s by saying there was a link between dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol? And told everyone that eating eggs would raise your serum cholesterol? Those scientists? The ones that had to retract that and remove it from the food guidelines because of how wrong it was? Those scientists? The ones that are never wrong about anything?

Fuck, you are so fucking brainwashed it hurts.

Decided just tonight to give it another go friends. I think my issue last time was that I didn’t eat nearly as much as I should have been. Any recommendations for things to buy?

>>13173465
how much of an autist do you have to be to go into a vegan containtment thread and spaz out about what people chew and swallow
defending meat in the way you are is kinda creepy anon

>>13177776
Sorry anon, I thought you had a bit of research ability. If you don't I'd be happy to link the 7 studies in the article listed on this website. All of them easily clickable in the footnotes. Easily found at the bottom of the website. The website that you had a hard time navigating somehow because it's about 1/4th of the whitespace on it. I'm surprised you missed it.
You know though, the website from the organization that is renown for being scientifically, publicly, and reference correct. I'm sorry that you don't follow thirty seven countries in their attempt to agree on healthscience.

>>13177803
Where the fuck did I ask you to link me to a blog post that links to 7 studies? I said link me one study. Learn to read.

>>13168167
>1700 calories a day
How much do you weigh are you a woman? I have almost no body fat and this would starve me

>>13177803
LOL so I actually bothered going to your stupid link and can’t actually find the 7 studies you’re talking about. It’s probably something about it’s mobile version or something. Just link to them directly and I’ll read them. Stop with the stupid reinterpretation articles though, their so full of pseudo science it hurts.

>>13177809
you asked for a study, I linked 7 with an assertment
are you retarded or just a sciencelet?

>>13177822
You still haven’t linked to any studies.

>>13177789
I’m sure there was absolutely no dairy lobbying

>>13167565
If the cow suffers the meat actually tastes bad. Adrenaline makes the meat tough and bitter. Relatively quick and painless deaths are best for the animal and for the meat. See? I eat meat and I'm humane about it. Besides.. most animals are opportunistic omnivores. If they're able to get meat, they'll eat it because they know it's the most energy efficient method of getting nutrition.

>>13177822
Well it’s gettig late and you still haven’t posted a link to an article so I’m going to bed. If you post one later I’ll reply to it tomorrow.

>>13177861
I read that animals put to sleep make better meat because otherwise they tense their muscles before death and squeeze out fats that would otherwise be marbled in. Idk sounds legit.

>>13169826
You can be vegan/vegetarian if you want to, but don't spread lies about it. You are missing a swathe of proteins, nutrients, and vitamins that are hard to get from plant material or that it's actually bio-unavailable in plant form. Vegans are probably healthier on a whole because they're typically the type to actually care about their health. If you someone with a vegan mindset and they included meat in their diet they would be much healthier than any vegan/vegetarian..

>>13177884
Not to mention the human body evolved thanks to eating meat, at some point we all became highly dependent on a source of fat, and for most it was shell fish not the mammoth

>>13177639
>tranny
Says the retard s o yed out of his fucking skull with xenoestrogens. Fucking kill yourself

>>13177814
I'm a man. 5'11 and 165lb. Guess I just have a low metabolism idk

>>13177792
Eat as many plants as you want, fuccboi. Only benefits me if you're a weak little faggot. Make sure you dilate while you're at it

>>13177762
This is what people who spend all their time on 4chan actually believe

>>13175232
I've been vegan for a year and a half...

>>13176687
Do you have any idea how little food we would be able to eat if we demanded that it wasn't at all produced using artificial bee hives?
Can you people stop making us vegans look like idealistic retards?

>>13177922
I said a few years you fucking idiot. And you may think you're fine now but veganism hits you like a truck when you hit your 30s, you'll be aging in double time.

>>13177939
If this is true then why do vegans live longer?

>>13177791
oats
peanut butter
jelly
dave's KILLER bread
bananas and other fruits
rice n beans
pasta (pesto with no parm, aglio e olio, silken tofu makes a great substitute for alfredo you can find a recipe online)
tofu
go to a local asian store and they have many options including steamed buns and veggie dumplings
if you get craving for THE MEATS gardein has never let me down and the beyond brat is the shit.

>>13177944
This posts shows the problem with vegans. You look to scientific studies as a point of authority and uncritically believe anything they say. Same goes for documentaries and the media. None of you can think for yourselves, you only look to "experts" without ever thinking they could have ulterior motives or simply be incompetent. Sorry that grifters took advantage of your trusting nature but you still have time to wise up before it's too late.

>>13177939
i’m thin and 6’1”, surfer/skater. i did a kick flip on some random kids board here and made 6 new friends instantly, visited a barista friend in osaka who i met on my last trip, went to a club in osaka and was the only person on the dance floor so i made friends with a dj who lives in kyoto who said he’ll show me around next time i come, among others. get bent nerd

>>13177950
Fucking disgusting, all that shit is full of phytates and other nasty shit you should never put in your body.

I love how vegans always try to replicate the taste of meat. We should try finding a substitute for oxygen too because breathing oxygen is literally stealing air from plants and animals

>>13177974
Its not just because experts say so, its what research shows
>ulterior motives
what could these possibly be
>meat and dairy lobbyists never have ulterior motives

>>13177976
Why are you trying so hard to prove yourself to me, autist? Your insecure performativity (aka cringe) is why people make fun of vegans

>>13177974
I bet you think you're one of those geniuses who outsmarted scientists on global warming and other issues

>>13177984
>rice and beans
>all that shit is full of phytates
?

>>13177984
Okay momsciencer

>>13177990
Fuck you're retarded, research comes from these so-called experts and is paid for by groups with outside interests. Veganism is big business, it means more supplement sales, pharmacy bills and doctor's visits, incense candles, copies of Eat Love Pray and all the other doodads that you're compelled to purchase by your cult leaders

>>13177976
Is this a pasta wtf

>>13178012
Have you met a vegan irl

>>13177995
>he believes all the climate shit too
Ok Gretabro, let's impeach le Orange Man together xD

>>13178020
It's a good thing we will all die someday I guess

>>13177997
>>13177999
Says the retards farting all day long due to all the crap you put in your body

>>13178029
Farting is a thing that happens when initially going on a vegan diet because you likely have a fiber deficiency and you're likely loading your body with a lot more fiber than it's used to

>>13178019
Yes, i know several. It amuses me because for some gosh darned reason they are all leftists who can't stop spouting off on social media. Almost as if being vegan was just virtue signaling and mental illness. But that can't possibly be true.

>>13178035
>who can't stop spouting off on social media
and you're better than them somehow?

>>13178012
>research comes from these so-called experts and is paid for by groups with outside interests.
I know right? Center for Consumer Freedom is the worst

>>13178033
It's funny how you parrot the party lines without ever knowing where they come from or what a fiber deficiency even means. I don't necessarily think you're stupid, but i do think you have too much faith/trust in both man and science. If you trusted these things only 20 years ago, you would be extolling the virtues of the food pyramid.

>>13178045
Are you a Christcuck by chance? You just give me those retard Christcuck vibes

>>13178038
Great comeback buddy

>>13178045
Who do you place faith in? Anon?
Also the american food pyramid is literally the result of like dairy lobbyists fun fact

>>13178029
Imagine making a vegan recipe thread and ending up having to deal with someone trolling around who unironically thinks rice, beans, peanuts and oats are unhealthy

>>13178054
Probably the person that thinks you got to move into a valley and farm your own food, eat only meat that you've looked in the face, whatever the pasta is

>>13178051
>They spout bullshit on social media
>I spout bullshit on 4chan

>>13178048
So tell me, how did it feel to find out that the food pyramid was grossly inaccurate? Or are you still sticking by that lie? Because all of the BASED experts and research said it was correct, right?

>>13178066
The food pyramid was basically singlehandedly created by the dairy lobby. Also im not the same anon you were arguing with before fyi. Anyway, you ARE a christcuck, right?

So has there ever been a vegan thread that didn’t devolve into fighting? I just wanted to come here to see if there were some recipes. Not even trying to go fully vegan but I have nothing against eating that way sometimes

>>13178076
he's been arguing with multiple people thinking they're the same person

>>13178076
Who cares who created the food pyramid? Nice deflection but you just admitted that scientific consensus does not mean it's right, and can be manipulated by lobbyists. But that can't possibly apply to your epic plant-based diet, can it?

>>13178054
Rice and oats are literally converted to sugar in your stomach. Beans and nuts are barely digestible and contain astronomical levels of hormones.

>>13178096
>scientific consensus does not mean it's right, and can be manipulated by lobbyists
The self-awareness on this guy...

>>13178102
>Beans and nuts are barely digestible and contain astronomical levels of hormones.
If "hormones" are what you're worried about, I got some bad news about cow milk for you...

>>13178096
Yes, I'm sure scientific consensus is being swayed by the infamous Big Broccoli industry

>>13173925
Wow nice triggered journalism, and blogs! Wow!

>>13178118
True after looking at the data. I wasn't aware of the science.

>>13178109
Kek

Once you learn how to feed yourself, the sustained effort required to be vegan is quite a bit less than what you put into rationalizing carnism to yourself every time you get triggered, so you should just do it and enjoy having more money and a functional penis.