/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Ceramic nonstick is great but at 20 bucks it was probably made by insects in a suicide-proof factory city. Shell out a little more and buy something that will last.

I like that asterisk on "toxin-free".

>>13130686
"Toxin-free*"

>>13130718
Yeah I saw that too..

>red copper pan
>isnt actually made of copper

>blue diamond pan
>isnt actually blue diamonds

hmmmm

>>13130712
ceramic non-stick is great when the pan is still new.
But it gradually loses its non-stick properties every time the pan is used, and after a few months everything starts to stick like crazy.

>>13130775

I find even my shitty old ceramic pan, as sticky as it is, is still astronomically less sticky than any steel pan I've ever used.

>>13130775
I’ve used mine at least weekly for several years, food still slides off with a little warm water. Maybe you just bought a shitty pan?

>>13130814
>Maybe you just bought a shitty pan?
Yeah, he bought a ceramic one.

>>13130686
I bought a Stoneline pan on Amazon for cheap (non-used item from the Warehouse Deals section) and it's pretty good.
they are the same german stone coated pans sold on the QVC shopping channel

>>13130805
>>13130814
I bought a mid-range (not super expensive, but not cheap either) ceramic pan and it was like that. My aunt bought another brand and she said the same things about it.
What is a good model?

>>13130830
Mine is a Browne Thermalloy, $30. I’ve never put it in a dishwasher.

>>13130686
aren't these all just "idiot proof" pans?

Like are you a retard who cooks grill cheese sandwiches with the cheese side down? Then this pan is for you! Burnt cheese doesn't stick! Just set the heat to medium and don't take your eyes off the stove for ten minutes and you won't need one of these Helen Keller frypans.

>>13130686
(((Toxin-Free*)))

>>13130917

Ceramic means I don't have to bother with teflon garbage, or greasing a steel pan, or deal with a 10lb cast iron abomination

>>13131217
>Cast iron is too heavy!
Terribly sorry about your muscle dystrophy.

>>13131217
>10lb cast iron abomination
retard

>>13131217
Ceramic cookware still uses some type of coating. Maybe it's not considered dangerous now but neither was PFOA based non-stick for years. No cookware uses PFOA any more.

When will these cowards man up and sell me a toxin filled pan already.

>>13130686
"granite rock pan" is supposedly pretty good. All of these pans work well as long as you baby them and follow the care instructions.

Ceramic pans don't last for shit

>>13131697
or until a fork comes within 10 feet of it ruining the coating forever

>>13131248

It's called weight distribution/center of balance brainlet, of which cast iron pans are absurdly terrible; you're more likely to hurt yourself than someone else just trying to swing the thing like an idiot. Shits fine when the pan is cold but the last thing i want is to wrestle phyics while trying to drain fat from a searing hot pan.

>>13131723
They have 2 handles and pour spouts for that reason

>>13131723
lol scared of getting hurt by picking up a pan

>>13131709
It's well-documented to NOT use metal utensils in nonstick pans. If you do it anyway that's not really the pan's fault.

>>13131758
but these pans often market themselves as """"ceramic"""" and durable

>>13130686
None of these pans are non-toxic, despite their claims they all have Teflon-like materials.

>>13131730
Shh, he's a dumb.

>>13131767
Yes, and all of them come with care instructions that specifically tell you not to use metal utensils with them.

>>13131839
That’s gay, why wouldn’t you just use cast iron like an intelligent person?

I will never understand why people keep trying to replace cast iron. Every substitute invented thus far has been awful.

>>13131885
Noodle arms and potato people hate having to think about a pan.

>>13131885
>cast iron
its not worth the trouble of having to season it, maintain it, worrying about what foods you can or cant cook on it

non stick is so convenient when all you want is to fry eggs and shit

>>13131895
They hate having to think about anything it seems.

>>13131897
It’s extremely easy to season and maintain a cast iron pan, and worrying’s for women.

>>13131885
We've devolved from the humans who had the independence, strength and intelligence to use a virtually indestructible and versatile utensil because big daddy (((megacorporations))) convinced us their petro-chemical, constructions which last 2 years and require you to throwaway and buy, buy, buy more are the ideal.

>>13131839
nobody reads the tiny booklet unless they are poofahs

>>13130686
I had a pretty good experience with an actual copper pan until it got scratched up

>>13130775
My brother got me one for Christmas and it's still working really well

>>13131885
I only like cast iron for some things. Otherwise it takes too long to heat evenly compared to nonstick or stainless (my preferred cooking vessel).

>>13131897
Huh? cast iron cleaning is a breeze and can use any utensils or high temps, unlike nonstick pans. it is used so often it sits on the burner

>>13131987
They’re called goyim for a reason.

>>13130686
>Buy the pan boomer!
>We both know your too old and stupid to use teflon, stainless, or cast iron
>Thinking is hard, all your problems will be fixed if you hand over your social security

>>13130712
Also, ceramic is basically glass, potentially sharding.

>>13130805
Sodium bicarbonate and warm water.

>>13130686
Glass has been my favorite cookware.

>>13130712
Also, ceramic is made with vitrification ("glassing") and "comes off", potentially sharding.

>>13130805
Sodium bicarbonate and warm water.

>>13131885
Cast iron is just worse than stainless in almost every way.
Beyond being able to cook eggs in it slightly easier, and making different breads in it, cast iron is just a worse product.

>>13132410
OK you’re confirmed for retarded, enjoy failing at cookery and life in general.

>>13132439
Not as retarded as someone who's never made a pan sauce and can't cook with tomatoes.
Cast Iron is nothing more than a novelty people are trying to make 'cool' again for little reason beyond nostalgia. Like I said beyond being able to make a nice pan pizza without getting a different pan there isn't much to cast iron that something else doesn't do better.

Even the non-stick is better done with carbon steel. But stainless is the best cooking surface for almost every dish.

I wouldnt use ceramic for stuff that isn't acidic soup or watery in general.
Just buy couple <20€ teflons that are ligth to move around and replace them as they start sucking.

>>13132463
Hahaha just, you retarded marketing droids will never learn.

Imagine think there is any substitute for cast iron and trying to come up with excuses to cope about it.

It's all shite.

>>13132518
You can do better than that.

>>13130686
Fake. There are two typ s of nonstick, PTFE and anodized aluminum. These are probably anodized aluminum, which are a worse nonstick surface than PTFE.

Going down to even worse nonstick, there's seasoned steel or cast iron. Below that is plain stainless steel, ceramic, and other non-nonstick surfaces.

>>13132463
you can cook tomatoes and make pan sauces with cast iron you can even cook eggs

>>13133039
Any kind of harsh acid will damage the seasoning in a Cast Iron. Tomatoes, most vinegar and wine, and any other acidic ingredient can cause a large amount of damage to the seasoning and give the food an off taste when doing so. You can get away with a quick sauce or deglaze, but any extended simmer or boil will strip it down to the base layer.
Thats why those enameled dutch ovens and the like exist, for people that want a cast iron pot - which is a sensible choice unlike the pan - and plan to make something acidic in it.

>>13133032
>These are probably anodized aluminum
It literally fucking says in the ad that it's a ceramic coated pan. I can tell you right now that's not an anodized coating.

>>13130725
(((“Toxin-free*”)))

>>13130686
>TOXIN-FREE*

>>13134050
It says "enhanced ceramic" and anodized aluminum is frequently advertised as "sapphire" since they are chemically similar, hence "blue diamond". I believe the coating would technically be a ceramic either way, and these pan advertisements can be incredibly deceptive.

>>13130775
>>13130805
>>13130814
I use my 3qt ceramic pot at least once a day, at least 28 days a month. I even sautee in the bottom sometimes. $15 on sale it was a $29.99 deelie in supermarket. Still works great.

>>13134414
The "diamonds" are quartz crystals. You can't dye a hard-coat anodization so they'd never be able to get that appearance. Well, you can try but it'll just be some kind of muddy grey/black.
>>13134414
>I believe the coating would technically be a ceramic either way
Anodization is not a ceramic coating.

>>13131730
>turn wrong burner on when making tea
>cast iron pan gets hi burner under it
>starts smoking
>now little black pieces of seasoning chip off into food and everything sticks on it
>eat the little black pieces anyway

am i gonna die of cancer

>>13134546
Yes

>>13131730
That side handle looks like it gets super hot. Even the handles on my cast iron pans get too hot for my sensitive bitch skin sometimes.

>>13134790
thats why you use a wet dish cloth