/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Only if it becomes affordable.

>>13103031
It will become the food of the lower class the rich will still eat real meat.

Yes

>>13103038
The rich will be eating the lower class

probably for making processed shit like burgers/sausages/nuggets etc
can't see people opting for lab grown steak or chicken breasts though

>>13103077
Makes sense since the all vegetable diet will make the flesh more palatable.

>>13103077
Not of we eat them first

>>13103124
Kys commie

>>13103038
This, pretty much
>HOW DARE YOU
>YOU WILL EAT THE BUGS GOYEM
>*enjoys a porterhouse on solar-powered yacht*

>>13103124
Why not instead become the upper class?

>>13103031
Probably. I think at first it'll only be used in processed/fast food and maybe bought by vegans, but as it improves it should be able to produce higher quality meat for cheaper than what we can do now.

My main concern is nutrition over flavor/texture though, it doesn't seem as nutritious as real meat because it lacks fat, iron, and some other stuff. If they can fix that then I'd start eating it.

>>13103235
Because he’s a commie loser who doesn’t want to work
Why work when you can take?

People used to take the piss out of electronic cigarettes, now vaping is a billion dollar industry.

All it takes is a good celebrity endorsement and time

>>13103235
The upper class is always smaller than the lower, so me moving up means that others must be kept down, and this is bigger than me and my individual wants. It's about creating a better future for everyone, to fundamentally change this inherently corrupt and unjust system that benefits the rich minority at the expense of the common worker.

>>13103253
Did you just assume my fucking gender!!?

>>13103292
>better future for everyone!!
>it’ll work this time I swear!
Your better future for everyone has a higher kill count than a 13 year olds exaggerated COD score

>>13103088
Why not? If it's from the cells of the animal itll be fine. They could even potentially mass produce high quality breeds of chicken, pig, cow, etc.

>>13103319
It has kind of a weird moral point to it. How do we determine if these cells have life or not? How do we justify using it to replace meat from living animals if we’re inadvertently creating and extinguishing life to do it?
Not to mention that the very cornerstone of life is gaining sustenance via taking life
(In some way) so if you’re not taking life, what’s the consequences of eating fake meat if you just took away part of the equation?

>>13103031
No. Idiots will always be paranoid about it just like GMOs, and it's probably cheaper just to convince people to eat bugs.

>>13103333
>How do we justify using it to replace meat from living animals if we’re inadvertently creating and extinguishing life to do it?
Because it's just more like harvesting a plant or fermentation. Yeah it's still technically life but less "aware" than a cow or pig and less able to perceive something unpleasant. And unless we can figure out a way to become 100% efficient by recycling our own energy or something it's just going to be the better of two choices.

>>13103333
>(In some way) so if you’re not taking life, what’s the consequences of eating fake meat if you just took away part of the equation?
Also this is like asking what are the consequences of drinking milk instead of having to kill the cow for food. Seems like dairy cultures gained a bit more respect for animals because it was in their best interest to take care of the cow. I would assume lab-grown meat would take it a step further and not having to look at some animals as something to just be killed and eaten might elevate them.

>>13103394
Farm animals will suffer in the post-carnivore society. Why bother breeding them? they'll go the way of wild chickens

>>13103398
the only reason wild chickens don't survive easily is because we've fucked just about ecosystem up and introducing them to other ecosystems would mean fucking that ecosystem up more or fucking the chickens over

farm animals will be fine--we breed animals all of the time and if they are in danger of extinction, we'll enact reform to save them in the same way we save other animals

you really don't have to worry about the survival of a species if your argument is "the only reason they exist is because we eat them"

>>13103426
>we breed animals all of the time and if they are in danger of extinction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charismatic_megafauna

If we're not making burgers out of them nobody will give a shit about cows

>>13103426
Main issue is most can only survive in captivity or will burn down nature without being culled.

>>13103398
>Why bother breeding them?
Companionship, to keep a supply of cells in case some get lost, education, entertainment for kids like petting zoos, etc. Maybe they'd be bred differently to survive new conditions though I guess you could debate whether that would be evolution or extinction.

Most people who have horses/cats/dogs don't NEED them like they used to, but they're still around too.

>>13103031
Unlikely. The synthesis of the nutrients will likely be fucking expensive, the dialysis machine to remove metabolites will likely require a ton of expensive consumables.

>>13103454
>companionship
Absolutely retarded
We did not domesticate these animals to keep as pets. They are kept around because they PRODUCE something of value to us. Take away their use, and they will be worthless

>>13103426
Chickens are a jungle bird they are all over the place living wild in the tropics

>>13103426
>we will legislate against x in the future because we caused x by doing y
Absolutely genius
I bet you think more laws will stop criminals right?

>>13103482
>We did not domesticate these animals to keep as pets.
There are still plenty of people with pet cows/pigs/chickens at this moment. People even keep insects as pets. They might not be useful to you specifically but they won't completely lose their value to us altogether. Just what we value them for would shift a bit.

>>13103497
>There are still plenty of people with pet cows/pigs/chickens at this moment
For every one of those "pets" there are a million others existing for our meat/wool/milk, what do you propose we do with them?

>>13103512
It's not like the shift is going to happen completely overnight. Demand for them will probably go down but slowly so the "supply" for those purposes will just get used up as the number of them being bred drops too. Then the numbers will most likely stabilize just enough to fill those other demands.

>>13103139
Curious, what flavor of boot tastes the best? Leather, rubber? Do you like when your master's have shit on their boots? Imagine being a capitalist cuck wew

>>13103555
>what flavor of boot tastes best
You tell me, capitalism can actually feed its people. Tell me, how many people died of starvation in China, Venezuela, the USSR again?

>>13103555
competition can be productive

>>13103547
>people are going to slowly stop eating real meat, because somebody in a lab made fake meat

>>13103564
>>13103565
>replying to poors

>>13103575
If you don’t pushback on commies, they’ll just continue to spew shit and think they’re right

>>13103031
you know if they make lab grown meat...
do u think they can make...
like... you know...
lab grown vaginas?

not that i would buy one or anything haha, just asking for a friend

>>13103595
3d printed organs are already a thing

>>13103588
We should open gulags and put the Commies in them. That would satisfy everybody, right?

>>13103031
Not in a long time.
And possibly never is society continues to destroy itself over retarded petty issues.

>>13103235
Why not instead hate the upper class while paving the way for them to take advantage of people via open borders and immigration

>>13103598
Yeah, but I can get a pigsheart for stew for a dollar. I bet they can't grow one in a lab at that price.

>>13103606
Why not do something productive instead of always looking for things to hate and seize?
Go join a commune and grow your own vegetables if you're serious about your ideology.

>>13103434
https://www.pegasusfoundation.org/will-manning-river-turtle-breeding-program-save-endangered-species-extinction/

>>13103444
That's only if we plan on introducing them to the wild
There are plenty of people who would raise chickens just to make sure they exist
And you might be referring to breed rather than species--the species as a whole will do just fine

>>13103485
Not the domesticated kind

>>13103486
What are you even arguing?
The only reason specific animals still exist in the wild is because the government prevents citizens from doing things
Sure, making poaching illegal doesn't stop poachers from existing--but it does prevent more death
So if the goal is preventing death, legislation is absolutely the answer

>>13103031
Yes but I would rather make my own lab grown meat from scratch instead of getting it from some weird laboratory. My plan is to make /diy/ kits for people to grow their own meat much like growing your own vegetables. You fucks better not steal my idea or I'll have you assassinated.

>>13103598
so uh, for a friend, where can i buy a vagina

>>13103606
>dislike open borders and immigration
>believes in communism and “for the greater good” ideologies
This week on bizarro world /ck/

>>13103608

>>13103235
Becoming the upper class doesn't stop them from dunking on poor people
The idea that capitalism is good because anyone can become rich only work in a world with limitless resources
Someone has to make less money unless everyone is equally rich, and that's just communism

>>13103620
>There are plenty of people who would raise chickens just to make sure they exist
Why aren't those people raising all the other species that go extinct literally every day?
Are chickens just that special?

>>13103651
Capitalism only says that everybody CAN get rich. It doesn't promise that they will, because only a Commie would be retarded enough to believe in equity.

>>13103031
you have to eat bugs you fucking white

>>13103652
There is a considerable effort to species conservation

>>13103651
>>13103661
>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
>and the pursuit of Happiness
It's right there in our founding document, I still don't understand why everybody thinks the government has to give you anything

>>13103652
Its illegal to breed endangered species

>>13103031
Never, they still don't know how to grow blood vessels to excrete the urea.

>>13103697
>it's illegal!!
Laws only stop those who care for such laws in the first place

>>13103700
Endangered species are mostly genetic dead ends, or else they wouldn't be endangered.

>>13103651
You’re retarded, we have unlimited access to the earths resources even if the situation can’t last forever we virtually do have infinite resources or at the very least live like we do.

>>13103661
Equity is meritocratic and functional equality is egalitarian but dooms us.

>>13103707
I agree. I just find "it's illegal" to be a poor argument for all sides

>>13103695
You don't have to be rich to be happy. What a strange thing for a Commie to believe.

>>13103689
>>13103697
These both suggest that the chickens might die out after all, just like I said.

>>13103707
>Endangered species are mostly genetic dead ends, or else they wouldn't be endangered.
>animals going extinct over the last century more than 50 times the expected natural rate

>>13103651
If everybody is equally rich then no one is rich. Arguably everyone will be poor. So yeah, sounds like communism to me.

>>13103719
>You don't have to be rich to be happy
Commies only think this way because they're convinced their unhappiness stems from economic hardship and only economic hardship. It can't be that they lead unfulfilling lives, or have substance abuse problems, or mental illnesses, or even relationship issues. No the sole cause is lack of money for them, because they're consumerist cucks just like the capitalists they despise so intently. They're just perma-jealous idiots, seething at the idea that you have to work for what you want

>>13103568
Yep. Even some people who currently eat meat say they'd switch because they like the idea of not having to kill an animal for food. Of course quality is going to be a barrier, but if it advances enough to the point where it's pretty much the same thing, why would you continue killing animals for it?

>>13103721
>the expected natural rate
Based on whose projections? Ours?

>>13103721
>expected
Who calculates these rates? Weird, Jewish lefties who want to raise a moral panic and control the goy.

>>13103737
>they like the idea of not having to kill an animal for food
Most meat eaters arent killing their food anyway, and the only people who genuinely care about the well being of these animals, are just virtue signaling softies that would never put the effort or time into raising the livestock in the first place.
>why would you continue killing animals for it
Because you're going to have an incredibly hard time trying to replicate the same kind of meat you cut off a cow, in a lab, in a even remotely cost effective manner that will yield as much produce that one cow gives off.

>>13103753
A fuckton of species went extinct from the vietnam war and agent orange alone

>>13103768
So if one war killed a fuckton of species in a relatively small part of the war, that puts how valuable this quantity of "species" really are in the grand scheme of things. Why don't you just admit you're an alarmist who doesn't actually care about the things you pretend to care about?

>>13103765
No one is saying it's going to happen over night luddite. I bet your great grandpa had a vested interest in the horse and buggy but tough shit faggot the times are changing.

>>13103077
We'll probably just kill you first lmao

>>13103768
You can blame the Democrats for that one, just like every war of the 20th Century except the minor skirmish with Iraq.

>>13103765
>Most meat eaters arent killing their food anyway, and the only people who genuinely care about the well being of these animals, are just virtue signaling softies that would never put the effort or time into raising the livestock in the first place.
They still aren't happy with the idea and a lot of them aren't just virtue signalling, they'll cut down on consumption to only eat what they really need instead of just eating for pleasure, minimize waste, buy from better sources if they can afford it, etc. even if they aren't giving it up completely.

>>why would you continue killing animals for it
>Because you're going to have an incredibly hard time trying to replicate the same kind of meat you cut off a cow, in a lab, in a even remotely cost effective manner that will yield as much produce that one cow gives off.
That's why I said "Of course quality is going to be a barrier, but if it advances enough to the point where it's pretty much the same thing, why would you continue killing animals for it?"

>>13103783
How are you able to quantify how much someone actually cares about any giving through a few posts on a Peruvian floot band forum you turbonigger?

>>13103788
Difference between horse and buggy, and cars, is that there was a clear upgrade and benefit to switching to cars. This benefit to eating not-meat is not apparent or even well argued apparently if your argument is literally just "SHUT UP AND LET US INNOVATE"

>>13103797
Who you trying to fool Vlad?

>>13103817
Russians didn't start WWI, WWII, Korea, or Nam. Those were all Democrat wars.

>>13103811
If the end product is indistinguishable from meat from animals and cheaper then the market will swing towards that so pearl clutch and piss and moan all you like but your alarmism over nothing falls on deaf ears.

>>13103820
Answer the question soy boy.

>>13103803
>they'll cut down on consumption to only eat what they really need
IMAGINATION
>but if it advances enough to the point where it's pretty much the same thing
MORE IMAGINATION

I know "science" has become the modern religion nowadays but anon you really need to think for a second. "Quality" isn't even the problem here. Do you know how much meat you can get off of a single cow? Or how expensive one can be? I mentioned cost effective for a reason. They're talking about replicating muscle tissue and fat out of stem cells. That's a LOT of muscle tissue and fat to replicate just to make up for the difference in just one cow. Technological advancement for the sake of technological advancement is retarded, when we lack the resources to do so.

>>13103077
>will be
They already are. And not just eating us and drinking our adrenochrome, but also harvesting and sacrificing us in Molochian rites

>>13103828
>IF
If that happens, which it wont, there will already be more alarmists like you ranting about how unethical eating flesh of any kind is, regardless of whether or not it's "living".
Also nice job trying to make me into the alarmist, after you spend half the thread pretending to care about livestock enough to replace them with lab-grown meat

>>13103292
>me moving up means that others must be kept down
free markets are not a zero-sum game

>>13103847
Livestock farming has a profound ecological effect on the environment and for some is a moral failure on our part. It is also expensive, uses lots of land and water, and is subject to many variables. It's also going to climb in price as the developed world starts to consume more and more meat. There are economic reasons to explore here and improve this process whether that is lab grown meat or not. Just because your luddite brain can't see the value in it doesn't mean there isn't potential value to be explored. By your logic why try to improve anything? You're literally an angry old man yelling about change here. No one at least in your life time is going to stop up from picking up your tubed Walmart ground beef grandpa chill the fuck out. You should be more worried about whether or not your social security will be enough to afford it kek.

>>13103877
You may find this hard to believe Grandpa but I'm not the person you're qouting and there could be more than one person here talking with you. I think you're missing reruns of the The Price is Right so go take your meds and chill before you stroke out.

>>13103847
>IMAGINATION
>MORE IMAGINATION
NUH UH

You're not even making arguments anymore. You either dodge or alter my statement so your own seem better. Stop being such a dumbass.

Myself and others I know stopped eating so much meat and now only eat it when we feel like our body needs it. Most people wouldn't really be able to afford meat anymore, or only in much smaller quantities, without the subsidies that are currently in place. Those subsidies could be switched to lab-grown meat when it becomes more viable. Lab-grown meat already costs like 1% what it did 10 years ago.

>Technological advancement for the sake of technological advancement is retarded
There are a ton of issues with the way animals are farmed today and this is meant to help address that. It's not being done for no reason. You might as well advocate for going back to being a hunter-gatherer with this mindset.

>>13103833
Word up AECOM proshill?

>>13103894
>>13103912

There we go
I was waiting for the "muh climate change" to come out, because of course the only person that could disagree with your "scientists" has to be a boomer and not a 24 year old, right? Tell me again how raising livestock and providing food for the world has negative consequences and that we should cut production and raise taxes to "fix" the environment while our competing powers poison the air and water and outbreed us.
>please western world, commit suicide because our morals want us to!!


How dare you etc etc etc

>>13103932
>you're not even making arguments
Pot calling the kettle a nigger here
You've still failed to address how you plan on replicating the quantity of meat from one cow, in a lab, in a cost effective manner

>>13103877
>If that happens, which it wont
Why won't it? Seems like you're letting your feelings influence this statement more than anything logical.

> there will already be more alarmists like you ranting about how unethical eating flesh of any kind is, regardless of whether or not it's "living".
Some vegans are already doing that but the majority of them seem to be saying there's no moral issue with it and they'd eat it.

>Also nice job trying to make me into the alarmist, after you spend half the thread pretending to care about livestock enough to replace them with lab-grown meat
You can't seriously believe all the animals on factory farms have lives worth living. Some of them literally go insane from the conditions and they've had to come up with ways for them to not injure themselves or others because of it.

>>13103948
>tell me how this ridiculously inefficient food product which pollutes the atmosphere and oceans while destroying carbon sinks and habitats causing species extinction is bad for the planet

>>13103031
If it can be grown cheaper than real meat then absolutely.
Soon meat from a cow will be a delicacy that you can only get from fancy restaurants that buy directly from hipster farmers.

>>13103956
>Pot calling the kettle a nigger here
Eat a lab-grown dick. You literally misquote me and just say NOPE CAN'T HAPPEN without anything else to back it up. I understand the apprehension with something like a major change to the food supply but you're being irrational and not making productive arguments.

>You've still failed to address how you plan on replicating the quantity of meat from one cow, in a lab, in a cost effective manner
You want me to give a detailed technical explanation on the process? I don't know that much about it. But like I said, it already costs only 1% of what it did ten years ago to produce a pound of it. The cost coming down is not some unrealistic bizarre fantasy.

Okay the real question is can they only grow that pink mush or are they able to grow something similar to whole steaks or roasts?

>>13103948
Who are you quoting schizoid?

>>13103982
Yeah that's simply not going to happen. And cows are extremely cheap to raise, you just turn them loose on some grass.

>>13103967
>majority seem to be saying there's no moral issue
Morals are changing everyday
10 years ago gays weren't as common a thing and trannies DEFINITELY weren't a thing, and now look at where we are. What's stopping lab grown meat from being some huge issue later on?
>animals on factory farms
I'm going to let you in on a secret. I don't care about the well being of livestock. Food is food. Life has to be taken to provide life. Just because your kind wants to constantly fuck with the natural order of the world, doesn't mean it's going to pan out. And that's not even me trying to be an edgelord. You want to eat fruits and veggies? Sure go ahead, that's still life being taken. Need a home built so you're not sleeping in the cold? We cut down trees to provide the wood and guess what, that's life too. So now we have to pay for the labor for someone to build this house. OK we have to give him money to compensate him for his time and labor. Guess what, he just sold part of his life for your money. You now have a home in which to live life and possibly procreate with someone, and create life.
Congrats, you now understand how the circle of life works.

Now bear with me, what consequence, do you think there is for removing the loss of life from this equation?

>>13104000
Only the pink mush, and they can't even excrete the urea from it.

>>13104005
>it was always done this way it can NEVER GET CHEAPER IT WILL NEVER CHANGE NOPE NOPE NOPE

>>13104005
>Yeah that's simply not going to happen.
Why?

>And cows are extremely cheap to raise, you just turn them loose on some grass.
That's fine if you're just providing meat for a fairly small number of people. I don't think demand can totally be met with free-range cows.

>>13103975
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2019/2019-ozone-hole-is-the-smallest-on-record-since-its-discovery/

>muh greenhouse gases oh no, it's ruining the planet!!!
Thanks for outing yourself as an alarmist.

https://youtu.be/tGlM6jGUSoA

>>13103991
>it's gotten cheaper!!
>but not cheap enough to make it into circulation
IE, not cheap, and still a piece of shit that you can't get even the most wealthiest of people to eat.
By all means, explain how this FOOLPROOF way of replacing an entire food industry is going to happen, when you dont know much about it at all

>>13104026
Pretty sure the hole in the ozone was mostly caused by chlorofluorocarbons which the use of has vastly been curbed but fuck dude your not here to have an honest argument anyway so lie away.

>>13104014
>10 years ago gays weren't as common a thing and trannies DEFINITELY weren't a thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus#Sexuality_and_gender_controversy

>Born c. 204
>offered vast sums to any physician who could provide them with a vagina;[58][57] for this reason, the emperor is seen by some writers as an early transgender figure and one of the first on record as seeking sex reassignment surgery.
It's fucking retarded that you brought up trannies in this discussion. And you were wrong about it anyway.

>I don't care about the well being of livestock.
Plenty of other people seem to.

>Now bear with me, what consequence, do you think there is for removing the loss of life from this equation?
People will focus more on their own deaths and become transhumanists.

>>13104040
>It's not perfect now so it will never improve
Retarded.

>>13104058
That’s very possible, the power of hipsters is tremendous in lowering quality of life

>>13104026
That has literally nothing to do with global warming you enormous fucking retard. That’s literally even an example of “alarmism” that worked since we drastically reduced aerosols after the public was warned about its effects on the ozone in the late 20th century

Did you actually just look up something you thought had to do with global warming and just posted it? Jesus fucking christ youre a pea brained abortion

>>13104040
Most new things start out expensive and then once economies of scale kick in they become affordable. That's generally how most new inventions and developments have worked anon. Could lab grown meat flop? Sure but we are a ways away from knowing. I don't know why this gets you so assblasted by the way you alarmist. Chill the fuck out.

>>13103333
The only thing I worry about is putting lots of farmers out of business

>>13104047
He is honest. He just happens to be honestly sub 30 IQ and has no fucking clue what he’s talking about

>>13104048
You see that's what we call an anecdote. You probably knew what I meant, but chose to be a pedantic retard anyway. They weren't out in the open like they are now, there happy?
>plenty of other people seem to
"Seem to" welcome to outrage culture, you alarmist
>People will focus more on their own deaths and become transhumanists.
Oof wrong. Remove the loss of life from the equation and we now have endless expansion increasing our rate of procreation. Congrats now there's 7 billion more people on the planet, that we're now struggling to find resources and land for. I'm sure we can just keep producing food and everything will be ok r-r-r-right?

>>13104073
Your about several decades too late to be pearl clutching about that. Between consolidation of farms and automation and terrible trade policy we are already seeing that and them being propped up by federal dollars.

>>13104058
It's not only not perfect. It's failed to produce a model capable of being used for the public, despite a decade of research and improvements
YAY SCIENCE

>>13104091
You don't get the irony of calling people alarmist and then full blown diving into an alarmist tirade yourself do you? You're a joke my man. Take the L you're outed as a liar and a fool nor were clever enough to make any of your bullshit at least entertaining. Don't quit your day job.

>>13104018
We're not giving government subsidies to your shitty company.

>>13104095
You're neglecting the worldwide effect on places like brazil. Itll get even more shitty if its beef production falls

>>13104073
Hate to break it to you but your image of the family farm is the same kind of /pol/tard mythological image of 1950's utopia. It's a big nope.

>>13104109
In 10 years the price has dropped from hundreds of thousands of dollars to around 11 dollars for a burger. It's also only been a fucking decade you dunce. That's a blink of an eye

>>13104071
>dude think of the animals and just stop eating them, despite billions of years of animals eating animals
>dude just destroy an entire food industry, JUST THINK OF THE ANIMALS
>dude just accept our invention that's neither affordable or edible despite a decade of work
Yeah I'm the alarmist here

>>13104116
What company? You mean the soy farmers that are soaking up tax dollars now due to terrible trade policies? Talk about some welfare queens sheesh. Is that what you're talking about?

>>13104123
There are quite a few in the midwest still desu

>>13104130
>dude let me just put words in someone else's mouth and call it a day instead of reflecting on the irony of me calling others an alarmists and yet being an alarmist myself
Change is hard anon but I'm sure you can do it.

>>13104111
>take the L ANON I'M RIGHT
Just because you can't debate logically or economically, doesn't mean others cant. Keep freaking out about a planet that will still have humans living on it thousands of years after our deaths

>>13104148
How are you capable of typing so much yet saying so little so consistently?

>>13104131
You know perfectly well what I mean, AECOM.

>>13104153
Sorry I don't have the mind of a paranoid schizoid so you'll have to enlighten me on what it is you're trying to communicate through your memes and buzzwords.

>>13104144
>change good
>old bad
What a good little NPC.
>>13104152
The same way you manage to repeat the same argument every post
Raging autism
>dude save the planet

>>13104152
He’s sincerely brain damaged enough to not even understand the irrelevance of the ozone to GhGe and AGW, while simultaneously claiming the ozone patching up is an example of alarmism failing. I’d be surprised if he isnt in soiled clothing

>>13104183
He's not brain damaged anon. He's just arguing in bad faith. He can't even admit he went into alarmist ranting to attack what he perceives as alarmism. He's a liar and he knows it but he's gotta toe the line. Oh well that's his cross to bear.

>>13104183
>>13104205
If you're too cowardly to give me the (You) when you complain about me, maybe you should go protest the dying planet some more and pretend you're not the alarmists.

>>13104214
Whatever you say sweaty (^;

>>13104226
sneed

>>13103651
>Capitalism only says that everybody CAN get rich.
You say that as it the system isn't rigged against you. Capitalists always like to promote the idea that anyone can become rich through hard work, when in reality those at the top pretty much always got there through sketchy means. The whole "just work harder" mentality is like a carrot on a stick, a dream forever in the horizon that blinds the working man from the truth of his situation. It's because of this that I always found it weird how you guys make fun of commies who say "it wasn't real communism" as if the current capitalist system isn't also being corrupted from the inside. To me at least, it speaks volumes how the corruption of communism leads to collapse while the corruption of capitalism leads to a positive feedback loop that makes the rich richer and keeps the poor poor, all the while deceiving the victims into thinking everything is fine.

>>13104288
Oh shit this was for
>>13103661

>>13104288
Our capitalist systems are failing because we allowed the same people that caused communism in masses after the end of WW2. Fast forward to 2019, where marxist propaganda has subverted an entire media of influence into causing consumerist losers believing that commie policies will result in anything but death

>it’s another "temporarily embarrassed millionaires bitching about the capitalist elites" episode
Are these writers schizophrenic or something?

>>13104328
dude save the planet, we're all going to die in 12 years if you dont!

>>13104334
I’m sure that your boss is very grateful that you enabled him to enjoy steak in his heavily fortified private compound while you subsist on crickets. Thank you for your service.

>>13104358
I believe I have a right to own weapons and stockpile food and resources as do many others in my country
Enjoy being eaten by Tyrone when he shows up at your front door looking for fried chicken

>>13104014
Not him but what the fuck kind of reasoning is this? If plant life and human labor count as life being taken then lab-grown meat still entails loss of life; just not directly from an animal.

>>13103031
If they learn to grow fat it will. The rich will eat it too since they could customize their wagyu

>>13104429
>being this much of a braindead commie
Man with all the drones and tanks. you'd think the Middle East would be a giant fucking crater by now

>>13104315
Dude, your post indicates you know nothing about communism but just want to gnash your teeth about the scary people who live different from your world of mom's basement, cheetoh dusted hands and especially tendies on nights when mum wasn't on a date with Jamal, lol!

>>13104368
Proles don’t have rights, those are reserved for corporations (per unanimous ruling after Trump’s 9th SCOTUS pick). For hoarding company property you’ve been sentenced for vaporization, the Amazon.com Militia has dispatched hunter-killer drones to your residence.

>>13104436
>Man with all the drones and tanks. you'd think the Middle East would be a giant fucking crater by now
That’s big government, the free market (tm) will utilize them much more efficiently.

>>13104438
>projection the post
Explain to me how communism works, enlightened consumerist. Do you think your leaders will let you eat the lab grown meat before or after the work camps and starvation?

>>13104443
>the free market
Yeah I'm sure Cletus and Tyrone will be happy to use their new toys efficiently

>>13104444
Did you just refer to your job as “work camps and starvation”? That sounds like labor agitation, a capital offense in the Corporate State of Amazon.com. Double-vaporization it is.

>>13104454
Nice fairy tale anon. How long did it take you to imagine?

>>13104460
That’s just the logical conclusion of capitalism (and it’s beautiful)

>>13104471
Sure thing buddy
Better save the planet while you can then!

>>13104485
Why? Do you have a problem with the utopia I’ve described?

>>13104490
didn't Yang say the problem with our capitalist system is that, with new tech, we didn't expect it to work so good so it caused greater gaps in wealth