/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13086810
There's one coke. There are thousands of beers.
Beer is liquid bread. What does your body do with bread?

6 cans of Coke. Coke is the most toxic thing you can drink.

>>13086810
beer. you will fuck your brain over and probably have withdrawal when you try to stop. it's also carcinogenic. and it's also just a shit ton of carbs. daily drinking of alcohol in any form will always be worse than an equivalent food that isn't alcohol.

>>13086835
>and it's also just a shit ton of carbs.
soda has more carbs than beer. an average beer has about 15g of carbs, a soda has closer to 40g.

you might actually be better off having 6 beers per day if you space them out even though that much alcohol long-term isn't good either. 240g of sugar is a lot, almost ten times the amount of what's recommended for a daily limit. they're still both bad though, just in different ways.

>>13086810
>Does alcohol turn into fat in the body?
excess calories of any kind will turn into fat

Yes beer has sugar in it, it's called maltose

Ie sugar derived from malt

>>13086810
beer does contan sugar and beer has slightly more calories than coke however coke will rot your teeth away while beer doesn't. I suppose there is nothing wrong with having 3 cans of coke and 3 cans of beer a day. I always promote a varied diet.

Do whiskey instead of beer. Zero cal/zero carb alternative.

>>13086810
Beer is all sugar my friend. Yeast + Sugar water = Alcohol

>>13086844
>trying to rationalize daily binge drinking this hard
i understand soda has more carbs than beer, the point is that beer has not only alcohol which is bad for you, addictive and carcinogenic but it's also horrible for you in terms of carbs. so the badness of the soda really isn't that bad.

ultimately obviously you shouldn't feel the need to drink liquid sugar in any form but in a comparison between beer and soda go with the soda. this is literally the only time in comparing food where i'd say the soda is the healthier option.

>>13086857
>so the badness of the soda really isn't that bad.
more than like 30g of sugar every day increases your risk of heart disease and diabetes by quite a bit, and six sodas would be about 240g. i'm not rationalizing daily binge drinking, i said they're both bad, just in different ways because OP is asking if too much alcohol or too much sugar is better.

i think six light beers would actually be better than six sodas.

>>13086852
>40° alcohol
>0 cal
Lel

>>13086874
op will likely have a seizure and possibly die if he drank 6 beers a day and then missed a day. these are not equivalencies, soda is obviously bad for you, but the beer is much much worse for your health. the daily beer would be worse for his immediate health and he would not survive to see the benefits that not drinking 6 sodas a day would provide him. for someone so aware of the serious consequences of too much sugar you're massively undervaluing the risk of drinking the equivalent of 6 shots of vodka a day.

>>13086835
You won't have much of a withdrawal off 6 beers a day, if they're american light beers. Maybe if you're drinking strong IPAs or stouts.

>>13086925
Simply not true, seizures don't happen unless you're a hardcore alcoholic, think like a fifth a day.

>>13086844
>you might actually be better off having 6 beers per day if you space them out even
Depends what size beer you mean but drinking all day is a recipe for withdrawal. It might be healthier on the body in a direct sense but you're better off binge drinking if you don't want to build up a dependence.

>>13086942
>seizures don't happen unless you're a hardcore alcoholic
that is what i am saying this is. whether or not you have a seizure is based on whether or not you're dependent on alcohol not how much you drink. drinking an entire six pack a night will likely make you dependent.

>>13086934
yes it will. imagine having 6 coffees a day.

>>13086857
>6 beers
>binge drinking

Back to Instagram or plebit or whatever the fuck you children use these days

>>13086835
>will always be worse than an equivalent food that isn't alcohol
Except for HFCS, like Coke

>>13086962
>imagine having 6 coffees a day

yes

imagine

>>13086989
i mean i have 3 a day and i definitely get headaches and fog if i don't.

>>13086835
>muh withdrawal
Maybe stop being such a weak willed bitch and get some control back in your life, pansy.

>>13086962
A 6 pack might make you a bit dependent, but you certainly won't have a seizure from stopping. I've cold turkey quit a 10 beer a day drinking habit, and I had sweats, shakes, and chills, but I was nowhere close to seizing out. Now when I quit drinking a fifth a day, I had to take ativan to prevent having a seizure, and the withdrawals were much worse

>>13086974
This, fucking 6 beers? That's nothing more than a good buzz if you're a fucking adult.

>>13086852
>Zero cal/zero carb alternative.
kek

>>13086852
Based retardposter.

>>13086962
I'm not sure if you're underage or naive. Six 12-ounce beers of 4.2 - 5% alcohol is a good amount, but definitely not enough to cause dependency to the point of seizures. It's also greatly dependent on your sex, height, and weight, and even race.

A six-pack of standard beers is just enough to get a good buzz going, but I wouldn't be drunk by any means at that point, whereas my girlfriend is toasted after 3-4 beers.

>>13086925
>op will likely have a seizure and possibly die if he drank 6 beers a day and then missed a day.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>13086835
You sound like one of those awkward spergs who sits there and refuses to drink whilst everybody else does. Am I right?

>>13086924
You have to warm your alcohol to burn off the calories. 40 degrees is almost freezing and has shitloads of calories in it.

>>13086844
i actually used to only drink coca cola when i was a kid. no water. just drank coke whenever my mouth wanted it. probably like 8 cups a day.
looking back at it i was a dumb and irresponsible kid but it was a custom i got from my coke-drinking parents. oh well, at least i drink tap water now, so at least i will die looking a bit less chubby.

>>13086924
>>13087151
>>13087176

I posted this: >>13086852, and yes I am retarded. I meant LOW cal/zero carb alternative. There is typically around 100-110 calories per shot/serving of whiskey.

>>13086845
really?
what about kerosene?
you think human body converts ethanol into fat?

>>13086810
>Does beer have sugar in it
some
>Does alcohol turn into fat in the body
yes
>What is worse? 6 cans of beer a day or 6 cans of Coke a day.
how long is a piece of string

>>13087982
Of course kerosene won’t turn into fat in your body. Kerosene isn’t even food dumbfuck.

>>13087982
>what about kerosene?
making retarded comparisons doesn't give your argument more merit.

>>13088081
>Kerosene isn’t even food dumbfuck
>Alcohol somehow is
Neither is typically digested in the intestines like normal food. The body attempts to filter it through the liver and kidneys, and any consumption in excess of the filtration rate is excreted if possible.
The process for measuring calories is what's know as a calorimeter. The food is ignited, and the total energy produced by burning it is recorded. As you can imagine, this is just an estimation process, as the human body doesn't literally "burn calories" like the testing device.

>>13088138
>Alcohol somehow is
forms naturally in food through fermentation. does kerosene?

>>13088153
Cyanide is found naturally in food, as is selenium, arsenic, etc.
Just because it's natural, does not somehow turn it from being a toxin into food..

>>13086810
Coke, easily.

>>13087147
>>13087151
>>13087560
>>13087618
>>13087663
I feel like you’re all either really unaware of your drinking habits or this is evidence of /ck/ being a bunch of fatass anons. For a 200 lb man (read: fat unless you’re 6 ft+) you’d be getting drunk every night, yeah you’re not gonna be hammered or anything but you’re a bit more than buzzed. Getting drunk every night is going to do more damage to your body much faster than drinking a ton of sugar every night, and it will very likely lead to dependency. It’s literally binge drinking every night.

>>13088827
That's a lot of fancy words for saying "I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about", fag.

>>13088254
[citation needed]

>>13086810
definitely coke

>>13086835
This guy is correct OP, listen to him. That said, you can enjoy both in moderation.
>>13086852
You will have less calories than some beers, but it still has calories. Whiskey actually isn't even shaving that many calories. If you want to cut calories and still drink, vodka and gin are your friends.
>>13088856
He's generally right though. Nobody is saying you can't drink, just don't binge every day. He might be a bit overboard on the seizure stuff, but that's beside the point.
>>13086989
>>13086962
I know joke used to drink over a pot of coffee a day, even while getting 8 hours of sleep. I was unemployed and for some reason my dumb ass didn't consider cutting back on coffee but instead drank more. I am down to 2 (still strong) cups a day and feel agony. We really need to get people to sleep more and not give them coffee at a young age.

>>13089463
>He might be a bit overboard on the seizure stuff, but that's beside the point.
It's very much related to the point. He's so overboard with the seizure stuff that we're reaching the ocean floor and heading down into the Marianas Trench. It's evident he's a retard who doesn't know what he's talking about and learned everything he thinks he knows about alcoholism from a DARE afterschool special.

>>13086810
Warren Buffett drinks cherry coke all day, and has done so for 70 years, and he's worth $80 billion.

>>13089718
It's generally not good for you to drink that much though. Having a drink with dinner a few times a week is fine, but most people don't really do that. I don't do that. I get shitfaced on weekends like a lot of people. I think it's better to be too cautious rather than too risky (as you can see by me getting shitfaced of course).
>>13089726
Trump also drinks a bunch of (Diet) coke and he is the POTUS and worth hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. It might not be that bad to drink coke.
>cherry
Has he specifically said he likes cherry coke? Odd. I think Vanilla coke is where it's at.

>>13088827
You keep changing your argument every time you post. Just shut the fuck up, you don’t know what you’re on about.

>>13086810
>What is worse? 6 cans of beer a day or 6 cans of Coke a day.
Essentially the same, unless you drink super light beer like Kirin Zero.
>Does beer have sugar in it?
Yes, all alcohol does. Beer usually have 1kg of sugar per 20L.
>Does alcohol turn into fat in the body?
not the way you're thinking of, but drinking a 6pack of beer a day makes you fat because of the extra 1500kcal a day you're consuming.
The average human only needs 2000-2500kcal a day.

>>13086852
not zero cal/carb but honestly this. Whisky, vodka, gin, tequila, rum.... all are good.
Hardest part is only consuming a sensible amount each night, because it's pretty easy to go full-retard with hard liquor.

>>13089726
He's also invested in the company and might just want you to think he drinks a lot of it so you'll buy it

>>13089786
>It might not be that bad to drink coke.
A bad habit doesn't magically become better because a rich person does it too. Trump is pretty overweight which causes a lot of problems.

>>13089903
Ik you shouldn't overdo it and obviously being fat is a bad thing. It's just a bit funny that some really rich fucks like to drink that which is basically sugar and brown dye.

>>13089896
Not until the 1980's. Had he bought Coke in the 1960's, he'd be far richer than he is today. Anyway, before the 1980's, he would make his own cherry Coke by adding cherry extract/flavoring to Coke. Or so I hear.

>>13089786
"No, Buffett explained, “If I eat 2700 calories a day, a quarter of that is Coca-Cola. I drink at least five 12-ounce servings. I do it everyday.”

When he’s at his desk at Berkshire Hathaway headquarters in Omaha, he drinks regular Coke; at home, he treats himself to Cherry Coke."

https://fortune.com/2015/02/25/warren-buffett-diet-coke/

>>13090052
Wouldn't you know. Vanilla coke is still superior.

>>13086925
No way dude. Think two wine bottles a day for like a decade and something like that might happen

>>13089846
the vast majority of beers are not 250 cals / 12oz, dipshit

>>13088827
>200 lb man (read: fat unless you’re 6 ft+) you’d be getting drunk every night
No. Not on 6 beers.
Are you Asian or something?
Tolerance exists. If its not your literal first time drinking you can do 6 a night no worries. No buzz either if you take your time.

ITT: alcoholics in denial

Ausfag here.
Any man who said they get hammered off six beers a day or became dependant would be considered a soft cunt.

I have 1-2 beers most nights, then spend 500 on booze for the weekend. Its called tolerence and not being a little bitch cunt

>>13086810
If we're talking about donkey pisswater beer like in op's pic then yeah it's better than soda, in retrospect everything is better than soda.

>>13089463
>We really need to get people to sleep more and not give them coffee at a young age.
Why? Because you can't control yourself?

If you just slam six beers back to back you are going to be inebriated

>>13091259
Someone can have drug tolerance too but people could still call them an addict (and justifiably so) for snorting 6 lines of ketamine a day you stupid kangaroo bitch. Aussieshites are the nationality equivalent of, "girl here ;))"

>>13091471
trans here, your comment is very biggoted.

ALCOHOL FUCKS WITH YOUR METABOLISM AND MAKES YOU STORE FAT. IT BECOMES THE METABOLISMS PRIORITY. YOU WILL ACCELERATE GETTING FAT. google it

>>13091433
I can confirm.

>>13091471
As an Australia, I must observe that you are a cunt.

>>13086810
>>13086810
I do both on weekends but it's whiteclaw and diet coke because i'm self conscious about my weight despite having an eating disorder, and being very skinny.

Just enjoy as many beer as you like. Everyone of us will die anyway, might as well enjoy the ride. Consuming beer is an ancient hobby of humanity and only recently people started to give a fuck about the negatives.

>>13092912
Nobody enjoys beer most of us just hide in it.

>>13086810
For your overall wellbeing, beer would be worse. 6 beers would get most people at least a little bit drunk, and generally you aren't as good at most tasks drunk. Ignoring even the health effects of either, drinking 6 beers a day, every day, will have negative outcomes not measurable by how it affects your weight or anything.

>>13086810
To all the anons saying 6 beers is "binge drinking", it really depends on how fast they're consumed. Binge drinking literally just means you have put your BAC to above 0.08%. For a grown man who's like 180lb, if you even spaced it out to 4 hours, you would not be "binge drinking". You are certainly a heavy drinker at that point, possibly even dependent on it, but fact remains you can have more than 4 beers in a 24 hour period and not follow a "binge drinking" pattern.

You will definitely be a problem drinker, and nobody would say you drink moderately, but again a binge drinker pushes their BAC to much higher amounts in a session (like .18 or so, I would guess), for longer amounts of time.

>>13088179
Those don't have caloric content, dumb fucking retard

>>13091355
>shit ton of college students paying like 5 bucks for coffees multiple times a day
>teens getting hooked on coffee at like 14
>offices across the country have people that constantly run back to the coffee machine
I'm not going to pretend I did a good job not overdoing it on caffeine, but it's not just me overdoing it.

>>13093203
I didn't start drinking coffee until I was 21. 120mg a day is enough to cause withdraw symptoms if I stop. 160mg reduces sleep to 6 hours max per night.
Alcohol on the other hand requires 6 beers to feel the effect (assuredly less if I were doing shots, I am not a particularly fast drinker). And it's trivial to quit.

>>13086810
yer a fuckin dog cunt, just drink a fuckin VB longneck at 20 to 8 in the fuckin mornin, she'll be right.

>>13093737
Carlton is the superior breakfast beer.

>>13086835

>Muh addiction

If you're addicted to alcohol you got bigger problems

be thankful you're having 12 shots of whiskey for breakfast as opposed to shooting up on heroine you fucking no self control having little retard

>>13086810
What a gross misunderstanding of how the body works. Alcohol that you drink is composed of carbohydrates.
Carbohydrates are the primary energy source for the body. Complex carbs are broken down in to simple carbs (sugars) to be used for energy in your cells. Excess nutrition means calorie storage. So in other words, if you eat less than what you burn off in a day, you lose weight. Get it?

>>13093868
>heroine
Who's your heroine, anon?

>>13087982
You can metabolize ethanol as it is broken down by enzymes into useful molecules which can be used to build fat. You can turn alcohol into useful energy and store it as fat, you can even get part way with methanol or formaldehyde although they are both far more toxic. I dont believe any metabolic pathway exists for kerosene. Yes things like wood contain calories but they are not accessible to you as you have not evolved to digest them however alcohol is.

>>13094974
>when you bump into a guy whose liver can processes everything

>>13090356
on average they're 45kcal/100mL. Usually between 30~60kcal/100mL.
The lightest/healthiest beer known is Kirin Zero, which is 19kcal/100mL, but it has that same shitty taste that non-alcoholic beers has.

>>13086810
Alcohol will fuck up your digestive system including your throat, stomach, liver, and bowels. Coke will fuck up your teeth and kidneys. I would take the coke, because you can at least shotgun one and do minimal damage to your teeth.

>>13086816
>Beer is liquid bread.
Retarded meme

>>13086817
Mountain dew is way worse

>>13087057
I have 4-5 and dont miss a beat if i dont. I also used to weeks drinking 10 500ml old speckled hens or a 70cl bottle a night and when I got poor not drinking anything didn't affect me in the slightest.