/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13041540
They’re too smart that’s like eating a dolphin.

Is there an octopus farm somewhere that I'm not aware of?

Because the following animals are too smart to eat:
Apes, porpoises, octopi, pigs, dogs.

>>13041540
The US is mostly engulfed by land, so the seafood culture they have is limited.

Personally, I think octopus is delicious. Too bad it's very difficult to come by fresh or even frozen outside sushi bars.

>>13041540
I do.

I guess if you mean regularly then yeah it's not exactly common, but I still see it sold in non-Asian food stores where I am.

>>13041540
needs more HFCS

It is rubbery, has a bad bitter taste, and the suckers are gross and off-putting.

Lmao at the anon with the "because the USA is landlocked" theory. What a maroon.

>>13041553
>octopi
octopodes*

>>13041587
Octopussies*

>>13041584
The Portuguese have a very traditional recipe called Arroz de Polvo (Octopus' Rice), and it's amazing. Pretty simple, but good. It's made with red wine and spices.

>>13041540
I'm not american, but I don't eat octopus often because it's hella expensive to buy one around here. It's above 40$ for not that big of an octopus.

>>13041540
Calamari is the go-to "upscale appetizer" at millions of american restaurants

i ate canned vigo octopus until they stopped selling it
honestly delicious
calamari is fucking shit though

>>13041854
>Calamari
Calamari is squid you dingus.

>>13041540
We eat fried octopus

>>13041871
i just looked up why they stopped selling it
the company started falsely labelling squid as octopus at some point
lol

>>13041877
They’re both slimy, horrifying, have tentacles, taste like shit if badly prepared and are apparently smarter than cats.

I was put off squid for life after eating rubbery squid sashimi in Japan on three occasions (one was at a 3 Michelin star place, they obviously just like it chewy). I still have time for octopus though.

>>13042026
They have almost no taste at all. Just a fishy rubber.

Octopi are smarter than abbos

>>13041540
I've had octopus in many restuarant in America. It's not something I'd try cooking though.

Don't americans really?

>>13041547
not a good argument as pigs are smarter than dogs yet you have no issue eating them

>>13042126
Yours isn't an argument as well. Being more intelligent than someone else doesn't mean you're smart.

I'm an American and I eat octopus

>>13041558
>lol @flyovers: the post

>>13041584
The coastie/island nigger didn't even say landlocked, he said "engulfed by land". I smell a gook from that anon.

>>13041584
>maroon
Oh fugg, I fell for a bait.

>>13041584
>gross and off-putting
Only in Japanese porn. On a dish, they look delish.

>>13042169
>only in japanese porn
Great, now I have to masturbate to tentacle porn again. Thanks for the reminder, ass.

I love it when they actually have them at the Chinese buffets here. Usually served fried with salt & pepper.

>>13041540
Because we're a first world country and can afford real food, like McDonalds and Outback

>>13041584
>Bitter
Try it first retard.

>>13041540
But we do?
I think you might be obsessed, bruh.

>>13041540
They like food that is very gross but looks nondescript,
but not food that kinda looks gross but is very good.

>>13042026
You've never been to Japan. You've never ;eft your home town in rural US. You have never eaten octopus.

>>13041584
>>13042030
>rubbery

dont overcook it, retard
love how you burgers squirm at octopus but have no problem waffing down mystery meat patties filled with god knows what

>>13042460
Americans are brain damaged from being forced to eat cold war industrial byproducts from birth

>>13042455
Projecting sooo hard lol

>>13041540
Because it's not meant for human consumption. Too many bad things are in the meat, same as with shrimp and catfish and insects and such. They have their place in the food chain, and a few centuries ago maybe they wouldn't be filled with so much trash and poison, but nowadays they are. "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" does not apply to the buildup of unnatural chemicals and plastics and crap in our bodies, and I'd rather not die of cancer like my father and grandfathers did. I don't like jews (welcome to 4chan) but kosher laws make a lot of sense to me.

>>13042455
If I hadn’t been to Japan would I really have this photo of Thomas the Tank Engine in Japanese?

>>13042142
>all seafood in coastal cities is fresh

>>13042568
>I'm excuse me sweetie, but I've been to JAPAN ok?
Shut up you little weeaboo faggot.

>>13041540
Because octopus is expensive. More so than fish.

>>13042727
It's not that expensive though. Many fish are more expensive than octopus.
Also
>being poor

>>13041540
Because it can’t be deep fried

>>13042769

>Because it can't be deep fried
>Yet Fried Calamari exists

>Why don't Americans eat octopus?

We don't?

>>13041540
we do?

>>13042781
I’ve lived in Wisconsin for 27 years since birth and I’ve never heard of anyone eating octopus you fucking hipster. Why would you make up lies? If you are actually claiming octopus is a food you are either trolling or insane and have obviously never set foot in America

>>13042789
le coastie pretending to be le flyover joke :D

>>13042789
Well that's because you live in the bumfuck of the nowhere. Nobody from fucking WISCONSIN will ever see anything else on their plate other than steak and potatoes their whole life. MAYBE if they're lucky, your farmer parents will take them into town once a month for fried fish on Friday nights, but that's kind of it.

Don't feel bad, wisconsin anon. You're doomed to live a mediocre life in a mediocre part of america that nobody actually thinks or cares about.

>>13042779
You know that calamari (squids) are not the same animal as the octopus right?

Proper octopus meat is so delicate and tasteful that it would be a shame to fry it, if you really want to do it you can use lesser octopus such as the smaller moscardini which are also ideal to be soaked in tomato sauce after being boiled.

>>13041553
Don't forget elephants, ravens, crows, and parrots

>>13041540
I go for takos

>>13042795
Seething coasties pretending Wisconsin cheese isn’t world famous for being the best

>>13041540
America is a big motherfuckin country and a good, very good chunk of it is totally landlocked.
I live in Colorado and I typically don't trust """""""fresh"""""" octopus.
Maybe if I lived on the coast?

>>13041540
I fucking love octopus but every time I order it at a non-sushi restaurant I get the most pathetic portions. Best time I had it was at a hole in the wall Greek restaurant. Served a hole fucking roasted tentacle. Delicious.

>>13042825
What about monkeys and whales?

>>13041540
I respect them too much. I've also never had a delicious octopus out of the couple times I've tried it so also that. But mostly the respect.

>>13041540
I do, I order it every time I get sushi, and get takoyaki whenever the place has it.

It's just rare outside of Japanese restaurants.

>>13042126
You can't make bacon out of dogs. And pigs like to roll around in their own shit. Worst my dog ever did with his shit was eat it.

>>13042400
>Havent even baited the hooks.jpg

>>13042552
Kosher/Halal dietary laws were made for ancient desert dwellers and the realities of their sanitation and food preservation capabilities.

It's a lot easier to say "God bans this" than "you get sick from that, idiot."

>>13042789
>Sconnie
No wonder, you can't get anything but beef and cheese there, neighbor. Not because you can't get it shipped in, but because you refuse to try anything else.

>>13044410
As a Minnesotan, I will say they have fantastic cheese, but are still 30 years behind the rest of the country.

>>13041889
Fuuug I just bought a case of vigo brand muscles in escabeche. How fucked am I?

I've had octopus in a couple of restaurants, mostly in Manhattan. I want to say I had some in New Orleans too, but I could be wrong. It's definitely not as common as squid, and really only seems to be served in higher end restaurants. I don't know why though.

>>13041540
Most Americans are genuinely disgusted by the idea of eating sausage with an intestine casing, why do you think most of us don't eat octopus?

>>13041584
>It is rubbery
prepare it right then dumbass

>>13042789
I'm in Madison, I had it last week
you big dork

>>13041540
I love octopus and calamari. I hope it never catches on here, because every time I have bought it, it turned out relatively cheap.

>>13041547
The intelligence of the family as a whole has been greatly exaggerated. We don't frequently eat the super-intelligent ones. A gold fish can recognize its feeders by face, but that doesn't mean it's smarter than an animal that can't.

>>13045310
Why would I bother? It is gross. There are plenty of other fish in the sea, and many lack disgusting tentacles with unsettling suckers everywhere.

Just because Portagees have an underdeveloped disgust response (which explains Brazil btw) does not mean the rest of us lack natural defenses to nature's horrors. I am sorry your ancestors did this to you but it simply ain't my problem.

>>13045359
Hawaii?

>>13045359
you are a sad little man

>>13041540
Calamari is served in every halfway decent pizza joint on the east coast.

>>13041592
Octopenises.

>>13046865
If being disgusted by slimy Cthulhu tentacles on my dinner plate is sad, I don't want to be glad.

>>13046888
>this post
>those digits

>>13046882
ok whats that have to do with octopus
retard

>>13042460
>>13045310
No. Regardless of how much you cook it octopus is still going to be tough and rubbery short of liquifying it or something. That's just how it is.

>>13047327
>if it's tough it just means i haven't cooked it long enough

>>13047327
No. Octopus needs to be cooked either a very short amount of time or a very long ass time. Anything in between will be rubbery.

>>13045359
>disgusting tentacles with unsettling suckers
soy

>>13045148
You have no clue so you're just making shit up. And it's obvious.
It's actually not at all easier to make claims from God and have people believe you than it is to make sense. If you don't believe me, just try it.

>>13041540
American here, we do, but it's usually not prepared well unless you're at a Sushi bar.

>>13041540

"how" do you eat octopus? I'm told you just slide it down your throat but I can barely slide pills down

so I end up chewing for 10 minutes and get bored, and I don't "taste" anything anyway

>>13047452
You but it in your mouth, chew and swallow like a normal human being.

>>13047363
>>13047395
All you're doing is redefining slightly less tough and rubbery as not tough and rubbery. It still is though.

>>13047475

then all the octopus I'd had must been prepared wrong, I have never had octopus that I could actually chew

>>13047475
>chew
>octopus
And there's where your plan starts to break down.

>>13047452
>americans can't even swallow without a tard wrangler helping them
you can't make this shit up

>>13047480
They're dishonest retards. If you actually tried eating their idea of non-rubbery octopus it would be just as tough and unchewable as every other instance of it you've had in the past.

>>13045172
it's still food

>>13042460
are you not thinking of squid?
octopus needs lots of cooking to be tender

>>13041547
>>13045344
I'm of the belief that all animals are of similar awareness, even worms. Memories are correlative with genetic expression – and it's obviously really simple having neurons and genes producing fundamental experiences and subjects.

>Some birds are getting their predator's attention, signing that it's better for both of them moving on.
>Elephants are signalling to each other noises similar to bees, when relevant, etc.
>Dogs are learning a thousand names .. and are inferencing new options when being asked for what's unknown.
>Apparently, anything with neurons has the capability of categorizing situations and things according to any human-esque emotions and subjects.

>>13047524
He's a third worlder. "Tender" in his mind means "softer than rocks."

>>13047541
actually know a white britbong who crunches up kfc bones. hes neither poor or stupid. makes me feel physically sick. I had to watch him grinding up a bargain bucket once with a head full of microdots. I couldn't eat chicken for years after that. it looked like fried bats

>>13047480
>>13047483
Then it wasn't prepared right.

>>13047583
Your standards for tender are low.

>>13045359
>underdeveloped disgust response
>says the mutt that puts 5 slices of cheese on a piece of bread
kek'd

>>13045006
Suehiro's in Fort Collins (and Grand Junction) gets theirs delivered daily from Portland, ME, and it is as fresh as you can get aside from scooping em out of the sea yourself. Source: worked there for years

>>13041553
Can we eat retards?

>>13047479
You have definitely not had properly prepared octopus, it's quite easy to tell from this buffoonery

>>13047403
No, I don't think soybeans or soy sauce would change my mind about this oceanic nightmare fuel, but thanks for the suggestion!

>>13047625
Sorry you can't afford cheese, euro povertylet.

>>13041540
I like the taste but I can't bring myself to buy or eat it again after learning how smart they are. It's like eating a dog or chimpanzee, why would you ever do that when there's retarded cows to eat instead? I guess Asians can eat them anyway because they don't have souls or empathy.

>>13047853

>>13047860
I'd rather cook and eat a leftist than an Octopus honestly, they're more intelligent and less of an affront before god.

>>13041553
>pigs
Found the jew

>>13047886
Fair enough, what does octopi taste like anyway? Always wanted to give it a go, closest I've had is fried calamari

>>13047908
>what does octopi taste like anyway?
Nothing because you can't see through it.

>>13047908 #
>what does octopi taste like anyway?
Nothing because you can't chew through it.

They have a tiny octopus salad type of thing at a chinese buffet I go to. I've eaten maybe a hundred cooked mini octopuss in sweet vinegar sauce. It's one of thoses things that disgust my friends. One tells her kids the octopuss lady will come and make them dinner if they don't eat what's on their plate.

I also buy the canned stuff but it's just okay.

>>13041540
>Why don't Americans eat octopus?
They have a higher capacity for long term planning than most non-whites.

https://youtu.be/BFda1MZ54G4

Seems wrong to eat one group but not the other.

>>13047853
Bad news anon, cows are like giant puppies and will snuggle you.

>>13041540
We do sometimes, its just not abundant, and only available at great cost. Its also kind of shitty food, that is easily bested by something else at 10% of the price. Its an easy pass.
We give absolutely no fucks how "smart" it is. Not even a consideration.

If you go to South Korea, you can eat them alive.

I doubt that would be allowed here, but it would be fun to eat a live octopus in front of a PETA member just to make them sick.

>>13047853
>Asians can eat them anyway
They're commonly eaten in portugal, spain, greece and italy too, Cletus.

I want to know this too.

The only places I can find octopus are at ~80% of sushi places, korean barbecue, and one buffet where they served them fried in a metro area of 4 million people

>>13048061
They’ve been fished out of the Mediterranean since ancient times, they used to trap them in huge stone traps, no fucking clue how they recovered them.

>>13045133
Not with that attitude.

>>13047853
>after learning how smart they are.

bro, plants are smarter than us, literally everything is intelligent. We just have opposable thumbs and intercontinental language.

I promise if octopus and dolphins could live on land and operate powerdrills we'd be in deep shit.


Want to save humanity? eat octopus

>>13047844
>
Actually it's called cheese product. Europe does have real cheese though.

>>13047908
Octopus tastes like octopus. There's nothing quite like it.

>>13048088
>literally everything is intelligent
Clearly not you.

>>13041540
The seafood, AND meat quality all around the states is subpar compared to the European nation that OP is currently living in.

>>13048102
Sure.

>>13048116

Got me good, oh man, my heart, that cut me deep dude, wow, nice rebuttal, I'm seething and coping all over the place

Americavemen know only two things: Beef and pork. If it don't moo, no can do. If it ain't squealin', it ain't appealin'.

>>13048159
Imagine being this butthurt about people in some other country across a huge ocean. The "rent free" and "O B S E S S E D" memes seem to be true.

>>13048170
Stay mad. Go eat something other than ham and whoppers.

>>13042126
Octopuses are Cooler than pigs,
so when we eat them we feel bad. :(

>>13042490
obsessed

>>13041540
There's an Italian place by me that makes grilled baby octopus that's very redpilled

As we can see from several responses, many Americans don't even know what an octopus is. What a country

>>13047485
no seriously, whats the proper way of deepthroating a tentacle?

>>13048454

Make sure it's dead. If eating a live octopus and you swallow it too fast, supposedly the octopus can get caught in the throat and you can die before you get to the emergency room.

Better question: why don't octopus eat Americans?

>>13048521
"wise men plant trees so that their grandchildren can bask in the shade" but over the course of a billion years with amphibians learning how to live on land

>>13048351
But I'm not the one who's mad, sweatie

Stay foreign, foreign weirdo

>>13045133
you can make bacon out of dogs, theres nothing wrong with eating them imo

>>13048729
DELET THIS

Octopus is delicious. I wish we had octopus more here in the States.

>>13050043
wrong webm

>>13047853
pigs are literally smarter than dogs and I bet you eat pork.

>>13050083
Explain how pigs are smarter than dogs?

>>13041540
You see any fuckin' octopus around here

>>13050178
Not him, but just last week, it was discovered that pigs utilise tools. I won't tell you which tools and for what purposes look it up. I'll still eat the tasty fuckers, tho.

>>13048159
>Americavemen know only two things: Beef and pork.
Chicken is more popular than either beef or pork by far you retard.

Im a vegetarian, not a fatass

>>13050217
I just looked it up and there’s more than a few cases of dogs using objects as tools and also they use leashes to communicate

>>13041540
I had some yesterday at a Chinese buffet. First time.
It's more about sustenance rather than flavor.

>>13041540
I like it fried or grilled. But if you cook it wrong it's like eating rubber.

Americans are afraid of octopussies. they literally thought the movie Jaws was real lmao

>>13041540
I do. I get it tako nigiri all the time.

>>13048729
Scavenger/carnivores usually have shitty tasting meat. If dog meat was delicious I wouldn't have a problem eating it. There are to many dogs in the US anyway

>>13041553
>dogs
>smart

>>13042552
>Too many bad things are in the meat, same as with shrimp and catfish and insects and such.
Exactly what are the bad things you're talking about?

>>13045133
>And pigs like to roll around in their own shit.
Only when they're mistreated.

>>13050379
Yeah, but pigs are total bros. Tasty, tasty bros.

i only eat octopussy

>>13048521
I can't eat an American. I'm watching my saturated fats.

>>13048729
Beggin' Strips is about to get a new flavour

>>13041584
>What a maroon
based and bugspilled

>>13042490
be nice to us

>>13041540
There's a very small time window between done and ruined making it a poor choice at most restaurants.

>>13041553
>octopi
IT'S FUCKING OCTOPUSES

burgerland here. i fuckin love em in poke bowls myself, everything’s raw. like my feelings.

>>13041540
>eating highly intelligent creatures
why

soon

>>13051797
piggybacking on this post to psa that octopus limbs aren't tentacles, they're arms.

they're only (known) cephalopod without tentacles, actually. squids and cuttlefish have two tentacles, and nautilus have entirely tentacles.

thank you for reading.

>>13041553
Octopi and apes are the only two of those I wouldn’t be willing to eat, and octopi are the only one I wouldn’t eat out of respect rather than disgust.

Why eat them when you can...

>>13045133

Pigs are actually quite clean creatures.

where do you get fresh octopus for consumption around Detroit?

>>13041540
I tricked myself into thinking I liked octopus for a bit. I had Nakji-bokkeum at a Korean place and I loved it, so I tried it several other ways anytime I saw it like the Spanish paprika kind and some octopus salad fresh from a seafood market and fried baby octopus. I hated it all. To me it’s only good if it’s smothered in gochujang

>>13052646
>com

We do

>>13045133
Dogs often roll in shit, their own and otherwise. Pigs keep themselves clean, and only roll in mud if it's a hot day. Dogs drool everywhere if it's a hot day. Pigs use tools to make nests. Dogs urinate on their bed.

>>13041547
Mmmmmmm
Sea pork

>>13042126
pigs roll in mud to cool off like lots of animals do, pigs rolling in shit meme comes from industrial meat practices

ironically dogs are probably dumber than pigs because of the domestication process

Because squid is superior

>>13041540

its pretty common in arizona

>>13041540
Most Americans are cowards when it comes to "exotic" foods. Simple as that.

Any dish that includes a seafood protein would be 500 times better with beef, chicken, or pork. Seafood is fucking worthless.

It tastes boring as fuck. The only kind that tastes good is the live kind Worst Koreans eat but I don't want to take the chance of choking too many times desu

We do in Hawaii. Hell I might grab some Takoyaki next time I'm at Don Quijote.

>>13056359
>Hawaii is the only place in the US that sells Takoyaki
island niggers are retarded

>>13056564
i had takoyaki in kansas city last week and it was delicious, you're retarded

>>13055072
But chicken chowder is shit while clam chowder is delicious.
Pork on the half shell would just be silly.
I'd rather have a steamed lobster than a steamed steak.

>>13056845
>he doesn't eat soft shelled steak

>>13051797
DUDE WHAT IF WE CALLED THEM OCTOPUSSY LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>13041540
Because it's impossible to chew trash.

>>13041547
>They’re too smart that’s like eating a dolphin.
>>13041553
>too smart to eat
>>13047853
>I like the taste but I can't bring myself to buy or eat it again after learning how smart they are.
>>13052168
>eating highly intelligent creatures
>why
You fell for a meme.
https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/against-the-octopus-the-overrated-cephalopod.html
>This endless spew of anecdotes and factoids has made the octopus the perfect object of our drive-by sense of wonder—the spirit animal for the age of I Fucking Love Science.
>I felt like maybe we’d been grading these creatures on a curve, such that even signs of their simplicity would be taken as amazing facts. Indeed, when Hochner and his colleagues first described the uncoordinated, wormlike movements of an octopus’s crawling, their finding was repackaged as a marvel. “There is a beautiful simplicity in the rhythmless dance of the octopus,” said the Journal of Experimental Biology, adding that the very automaticity of the process is “what makes the octopus truly unique.”
>There are other studies, too, that seem like they ought to count against the octopus’s brainy reputation. In one recent experiment, Hochner’s group put octopuses inside a plastic box and made them reach their arms into a hole to get a piece of shrimp. In spite of their purported brilliance, the study found that octopuses did not learn to do the task any better over time. (They’re slow learners in other contexts, too.) And what about the classic research from the early 1990s, which suggested an octopus could learn to choose a colored ball just by watching other octopuses? That behavior, which helped make the octopus an “honorary vertebrate” for the purposes of British law, isn’t so extraordinary, even for invertebrates. Bumblebees, for example, can learn to choose between green and orange flowers after watching other bumblebees. Yet no one ever calls the bee “the genius of the garden.”

>>13051797
I thought it was octopodes.

>>13057124
Imagine taking an article seriously that words itself in such a fashion
>Slate
lmao

The only octopus viable for eating is the Giant Pacific Octopus which pretty much only hangs out in the Puget Sound of Washington state. Supply vs. demand. Also fuck Seattle.

>Most Americans are genuinely disgusted
nah
i dont know any

grilled octopus is very delicious

Id always order this at a japanese place but they went out of business when the owner died. Bummer.

>>13042126
this isn't true and is a vegan myth

>>13042169
Cringe

>>13053389
>buying beds for your dog
Do Americans really?

>>13060929
They're basically just small cushioned pads you can get for less than 10 bucks.