/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13010578
Mostly because flavor and texture.

I do not like the texture of raw or undercooked meat.
It's like eating pre-chewed bubblegum.

>>13010594
Same. Even with high quality meat it still has an unpleasant texture to me. It's like it just doesn't break down properly when chewed compared to fully cooked meat.

>>13010601
>It's like it just doesn't break down properly when chewed compared to fully cooked meat.
Also this is probably why no carnivore actually chews meat, they just swallow large chunks of it.

Because cooking it provides better flavor?

If i'm cutting from a primal, I might use it for a tartar

>>13010594
>>13010601
Then it's not prepared right for you.

A good tartar or carpaccio is and unreal way to eat a beef, as long as it's not too fatty.

>>13010662
Yeah. I've never actually tried them but I'd imagine those are better because they've been tenderized in some way. Eating a chunk of medium-rare steak sucks though.

Render the fat and no further heating

>>13010662
>meat that's been pounded paper thin or finely chopped has a different texture than a 2 inch thick ribeye

>>13010687
Medium rare is not the bubble-gum texture to which I referred.
It's only in rare and below. Med-rare is the perfect, ideal middle-point between overly chewy bubblegum and unchewable shoe leather.

>>13010700
Anything less than well done always seems chewier to me. Obviously cooking a steak past 160F will make it chewier too, but that's an issue of overcooking. Nobody complains about fully cooked chicken as long as it wasn't cooked past the point of just being fully cooked, so I'm not sure why people assume well done steak has to inherently be unchewable shoe leather.

>>13010578
Because cooking it just enough to render the fat makes it better

>>13010723
Well done is overcooked, no exceptions.
Even medium-well is pushing it.

>>13010687
Yes, you can make it at home easy. Just make sure it's from a good butcher.

>>13010697
Yes of course I never thought that you can't do ANYTHING else with a striploin when it's in it's raw state...

>>13010700
This is something I've wondered about, medium rare is when I find the fat is perfectly flowing through the meat. Which is 145, pork ribs for example 204 - 206 the fat does the same thing.

I wonder what the exact temp for beef is for this it happen like pork ribs.

>>13010578
I want a sear. Sear is the only thing good in my life.

>>13010578
Sometimes I do, bro. I think raw vs cooked arguments are silly, they're both okay options, just do whichever you like and make sure it's all cleanly prepared in either case.

>>13010734
>Well done is overcooked, no exceptions.
Yeah people always say this but it's retarded because it's down to preference. That's not what overcooked means. Overcooked means 160F internal temp is well done but you cooked it to 180F and still just call it well done.

>>13010734
Well done is not overcooked for a flat iron, though that cut is better slow cooked or braised

>>13010796
Preferring your food to be overcooked doesn't mean it's not overcooked.

>>13010824
Thinking that overcooked means "not my preference" doesn't mean you're not retarded.

>>13010626
>useful and knowledgeable
>ignored
This board is fucked unless you’re interested in fast food or veganism and all the hot sluts seem to have left.

>>13010837
>man who likes his food with all of the flavor cooked right out of it is also overly sensitive and resorts to name-calling

Color me surprised.

>>13010723
>well done steak has to inherently be unchewable shoe leather
It’s not an assumption. Does your father (if you know him) blame himself for you?

>>13010912
>cooking out the flavor

>>13010892
>hot sluts
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>>13010892
>all the hot sluts seem to have left.
I'm still here bb ;)

>>13010619
This. I'm not some kind of troglodyte who eats things I don't like just to piss off someone.

I was at an Easter dinner once at a restaurant with family. Among the family was this one old woman related by marriage.

My steak was nearly raw. The old woman got so upset when she saw it, I ate it anyway. I can't say that it was the best steak I ever ate, but her reaction to having to watch me eat the steak made up for most of that.

>>13010578
Because I'm not retarded. Also raw meat tastes like shit.

>>13010578
Nah I heat them up to 115 degrees internal temp in the oven and sear them in my ol trusty cast iron

>>13010578
I ate a rare dry aged ribeye once and I vomited 4 times that night. it looked like i was vomiting blood.

Am I the only one that remembers when pewdiepie said nigger? Im still literally shaking

>>13010578
Because its not cooked

>>13011505
LONDON?

>>13013799
LONDON
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>>13010578
I have no issues with raw meat but like >>13010619 said that's just the case. Maybe steak tartare and those types are good but I've never had them. I've eaten raw bacon and other cuts of pork and tried raw beef cut into chunks for stew and imo the only good one was cured raw pork.

>>13010947
Havent seen that dude in years

>>13010578
Fuck me I have been trying to eat raw for quite some time now, but I think I'll compromise on that and cook it very lightly. I am basically doing this now ... Cook the meat just some on each side on butter, and cook some eggs with it on the same pan, remove the yolks raw and cook the whites.

I tried the raw beef... but it just didn't satisfy me and I found myself forcing it down instead of enjoying it.
(Just ended up not finishing and being hungry soon after)

So now I'm eating beef and lamb, cooked but very very rare.

Don't like the taste and texture of pure uncooked raw meat. But if prepared into a steak tartare or something it is okay. Searing the outside of steaks and leaving the inside raw is good.

>>13011846
That is a very based individual.

>>13013818
>Fuck me I have been trying to eat raw for quite some time now
Why? Because someone on the internet convinced you to?

>>13013831
Yes. And I have benefitted tremendously. (By accepting that meat and eggs and milk is our natural food that fortifies us) I'm like a reverse vegan I guess.

But as I said, I am not eating beef raw anymore, though I tried, I am eating it damn near raw, rare, and I hope I'm getting the same benefits. I am anti-vegan in case you couldn't tell. But I am not against eating vegetables and fruits per se.

>>13013864
Remember, not everything you read on the internet is true or can apply to people like you. Eg: diet of the inuit eskimos. And i highly doubt you are competent enough to check the scientific literature and cross reference evidence. Also understand that placebo is a thing. It could also be that you benefitted from something else that you excluded from the diet (sugar, gluten) and you did not benefit from raw meat.

>>13013864
>By accepting that meat and eggs and milk is our natural food that fortifies us
That's true. Plant foods do the same though. The best diet seems to have a mix of both because we're omnivores.

>>13013918
no the true diets are extreme diets i know this because i was brainwashed

>>13013919
>tfw breatharian

>>13013878
What do you eat, being a genius and all?

>>13010662
carpaccio is a waste of good meat

>>13013926
Any healthy food that is readily available according to season, plant or animal based. Fad diets like 'raw meat only' or 'raw plant only' are retarded.

When i have fresh red meat (beef, kangaroo, goat, deer) i like to sear the outside of the steak and leave the inside relatively raw. Rare to blue rare. Offal is important. A variety of well-cooked vegetables. Lots of garlic and ginger. Eggs.

Point is you don't need to eat 100% raw supermarket steaks with 0% cooking to be 'super healthy'.

>>13013987
Might want to he learn the difference between red meat and game, anon.
Retard.

>>13014036
Share with me your wisdom, smart stranger. From my understanding, game is meat from a wild game animal. Red meat is present in all sorts of animals, both domesticated and game.
Deer, Goat, Kangaroo, and Beef are primarily red meat. Beef is a domestic animal, the others are game animals.
If i am wrong please correct me, i like to know more about the world.

>>13014050
>deer is red meat

>>13010578
You can. Some people do. There's nothing stopping you.

>>13014053
Yes, that is my understanding. But if you think i am wrong, please explain why.

>>13014057
The pint he’s making is that deer is game not red meat.
Probably time for you to go to bed.

>>13014053
In nutritional science, red meat is defined as any meat that has more of the protein myoglobin than white meat. White meat is defined as non-dark meat from fish or chicken (excluding the leg or thigh).
According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), all meats obtained from mammals (regardless of cut or age) are red meats because they contain more myoglobin than fish or white meat (but not necessarily dark meat) from chicken.
Under the culinary definition, the meat from adult or "gamey" mammals (for example, beef, horse meat, mutton, venison, boar, hare) is red meat.
Game is SOMETIMES put in a separate category altogether by absolute retards.

>>13014053
>deer meat isn't red

>>13013987
>Fad diets like 'raw meat only' are retarded.

Interesting. Can you name one person on flat Earth eating a "raw meat only" diet??

>>13014089
>not understanding the term red meat in its scientific and culinary sense
This board isn’t for you.
Retard.

>>13014067
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/red-meat-and-the-risk-of-bowel-cancer/
Scroll down to the list of red meat. Also an apt link because you are cancer.

>>13014067

Nutritional and chemical composition of farmed venison. Aidoo et al.
>Table 3 shows the fatty acid profile of fat extracted from different cuts of venison, venison stew and other locally bought red meat cuts. Total saturated fatty acids in venison were 4749% of the total extractable fat, compared with 41% for beef, 50% for lamb and 37% for pork.


>Random amplified polymorphic DNA (RAPD) fingerprints for identification of red meat animal species. Koh et al.
>The random amplified polymorphic DNA (RAPD) method was used to generate fingerprint patterns for 10 meat species: wild boar, pig, horse, buffalo, beef, venison, dog, cat, rabbit and kangaroo. A total of 29 10-nucleotide primers, with GC contents ranging from 50–80%, were evaluated for their specificity and efficiency. The fingerprint patterns that were generated were found in some cases to be species-specific, i.e. one species could be differentiated from another. The advantages and disadvantages of using RAPD-PCR for the identification of red meat species are also discussed.


Reindeer in the “Great Land”: Alaska's Red Meat Industry. Christie et al.
>Alaska produces only 5% of its food supply, leaving residents very vulnerable to outside factors such as energy costs and product demand in other markets. Reindeer are ideally suited to the climate and vegetation of the Seward Peninsula, and reindeer herding represents an as yet unrealized opportunity for providing Alaska with a sustainable supply of red meat.

>>13014105
Look in the mirror retard.
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>>13014138
How stupid are you to believe that your niche definitions of red meat apply to all major science and culinary definitions?

>>13013926
frosties in goat milk

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>>13014105
Where's your comeback, you fucking moron? Now that you’ve been BTFO that hard, could you please have the common decency to apologise then leave for good. >>13014123
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>>13015903
To be fair, arguing over who says which meat is red or not seems rather pedantic for all parties. pls sthap.

>>13010578
They're not mine

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