/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Sage

>>12999364
>Meat has no flavor
Amerimut detected
Actual animals raised on farms taste great. Factory fraken animals fed a cocktail of soilent antibiotics and growth hormones are pretty bland.

>posting cats on a dog board

>>12999364
A lot of flavor has actually been bred out of meat as a side effect of breeding the animals to be leaner. It's also partially due to their shitty diets instead of what they naturally eat. High quality meat has a lot of flavor, even when raw it can smell appetizing.

>cause humans can't even properly digest meat on top of it giving you loads of health problems for doing so.
We can't digest cellulose in vegetables and too much fiber will make you constipated. Do you think we shouldn't eat vegetables now? There aren't really any health problems associated with meat as long as you aren't eating processed meat and aren't overweight anyway.

The best tasting meat foods are loaded with non-meat flavoring. Salami, pepperoni, sausage are stuffed with veggies and spices. The flavor comes primarily from non-meat fillers.

Meat is the cardboard of the culinary world.

>>12999411
Just eating a single vegetable or single spice usually isn't too great either. Most of the best foods are a mix. The only things that are really good to eat on their own are fruits.

Most modern vegetables have been bred to make them taste better too. A lot of the wild versions are pretty bitter.

>>12999420
90+% of the flavor in a meat dish is not the meat, but the way it was prepared.
Meat itself is filler.

>>12999364
Shut the fuck up, you retarded communist faggot.

>>12999432
Same thing with literally every starch or greens retard.

>>12999433
>projecting this hard

>>12999438
Shut the fuck up, you retarded communist faggot.

>>12999364
you must be eating some shit fucking meat. or all you eat is chicken. grill a good steak or hamburger and there will be plenty of flavor without even adding salt & pepper.

>>12999436
False.
Meat doesn't stand on its own as tasty. Boil potatoes, they taste like potatoes. Boil carrots they taste like carrots. Boil broccoli it tastes like broccoli. Boil meat it tastes like nothing.
Steaks need sauce. Burgers need spices and dressings. Chicken needs sauce or a deepfried oil coating of salt and flour and egg. Fish basically has no flavor at all objectively if its not offensively salty. Lobster without the butter and garlic tastes like shitty fish, which is why they use shitty fish to make imitation lobster.

Every goddamn animal tastes like shit and this is such a widely known subversive fact that no restaurant just serves "meat". its meat cooked in sauces, butters, oils, veggies, spices, wines, vinegars, with flour, with fruits, with cream, grilled over charcoal, smoked, cured with salt, pickled with vinegar - literally everything that isn't meat is what gives any meat dish the majority of it's flavor. Everything but meat has a flavor.

>>12999459
>Boil meat it tastes like nothing.
"Meat" is a pretty general term for something that can vary greatly depending on a bunch of different factors. Chicken breast from a factory farmed chicken is not going to taste like the legs of a free range chicken eating its natural diet. Wild boar won't taste like a farmed pig.

Try serving a plate of boiled potatoes and broccoli with nothing else and see how many people enjoy that though.

>>12999463
Far more than a plate of boiled meat.

>>12999468
you're gay

>>12999477
You're still projecting

>>12999480
no u

>>12999439
>>12999433
>everything I don't like is communism
cope harder and prepare for a democratic 2020 election

Meat is for closet soyboys.

>>12999364
Start eating goat and lamb. Then you will realize that only mass produced beef is the lower quality meat.

>>12999364
>meat is literally flavorless
Meat tastes of umami.
Literally all meat does.

>>12999544
Gamey meat simply tastes bitter, which is probably worse than not having a flavor at all. Nevermind the texture.

>>12999549
Umami is the flavor of MSG.

>>12999459
>Fish basically has no flavor at all objectively
>Lobster without the butter and garlic tastes like shitty fish

>>12999553
>meat is flavorless
>meat is bitter
which one

>>12999556
Which meat contains.

>>12999562
Everything has glutamate. Its derived from gluten so even meat is not a high source of it.
How much of a fucking retard do you need to be to insist to eat meat.

>>12999568
>Its derived from gluten so even meat is not a high source of it.

>>12999372
Stop being an obsessed faggot. This is bait you literal Europoor newfag. Also having traveled all over the world meat tastes the same everywhere.

>>12999570
Umami and MSG byproxy were synthesized from seaweed, my man.
You really need to stop eating meat and realize al your favorite meat dishes taste the same even without the meat.

>>12999590
you had a good run but your trolling is obvious now

>>12999364
Gee, I guess I'm just imagining the flavor of pork, you stupid faggot vegan.
Day of the steak soon.

I was vegetarian for 2 years and this is just not true, you're just going to rationalize the fact that you might not be able to eat meat ever again. Be honest with yourself or you won't be able to mantain this diet

>>12999364
Cope, enjoy looking like the green goblin in less than half a decade.

>>12999364
Your taste buds suck. But also
>>12999372
This.

>>12999573
>amerifat has never eaten chicken outside a McDonald's
Sure, McDonald's always tastes pretty much same.

>>12999621
Describe the flavor of pork without mentioning any pork products which you no doubt will not be abled to do.
>HONEY glazed ham
>BARBECUE ribs
>CURED bacon
>SWEET & SOUR pork
nigga do you even know what pork is.
Its meat.
And as this thread as proven, meat is flavorless. Meat is flavored by everything else, and everything else which is actually flavorful.

Bruhg if you dont eat cows how are you gonna get your gains

>>12999388
No, just no.
Grain-fed beef has no real taste.
Grass-fed beef has a significant amount of taste to it.

>Grain-fed fags will try and defend this.
>Try as you might, you can't.

Suffer with your poor-mans beef.
Ha Ha Ha Ha

I agree with what you've said except for lamb. Lamb has a distinctive flavour and has a lot of delicious fats by itself.

>/ck/ - Bulls & Cucking

>>12999502
Shut the fuck up, you retarded communist faggot.

>>12999364
This nigga eatin beans

>>12999364
>posts a cat image on a dog board
>don't bother to even read the accompanying text
Happy Birthday /ck/!

>>12999411
Keep telling yourself this,as you cry yourself to sleep, soyboy.

>>12999459
Objectively, you are a tastelet....
Deal with it.

>>12999553
>Owwwww, I don't like meat that tastes like it should!!

Kill yourself faggot, I've been a hunter here in New Zealand for the last 25+ years.
Game meat is where it's at, venison, goat and the odd wild pig, you can't replicate taste like that when they are roasted in the oven and you make gravy from the drippings.
I bet you live on ramen......

>>12999659
It fucking tastes like pork? Did you finally go mad from nutritional deficiency?
Go eat a pork steak and a beef steak and tell me they have the same flavor.

>>12999502
The only good socialist is a dead socialist.

>>12999432
This simply isn't true.

Thus entire thread is terrible bait. Low quality filler.

>>12999432
That would more than anything describe things like tofu.

>>12999380
sorry retard this is a cat board and out oc posters support it go sniff an asshole

>>12999364
I've been vegetarian for 10 days (because I have a weakness called empathy) and I've noticed an increase in weight and a decrease in upper arm muscle mass (I wasn't a buff dude, but it's kind of noticeable regardless). What the fuck. I'm eating beans and lentils like crazy. Does animal flesh have magical powers????

>>12999899
>Does animal flesh have magical powers????
Animal proteins are very efficient and the human body is evolved to derive nutrients from them.

Contrary to vegan propaganda, meat, animal fat, eggs, and dairy, are actually good for you.

>>12999909
Just to clarify, I'm a vegetarian that doesn't proselytize that my way is the natural way. I'm just all about minimizing suffering. To each their own.

>>12999411
KEEP SAYING THE LINE

>>12999468
>>12999477
Lol he's right, boiled veggies actually taste like something, boiled meat is an affront to God Almighty.

>>12999659
You're being retarded my friend, time to stop posting

The only meat that tastes like nothing is hormone injected chicken breast, everything else is varying flavors of savory.

>>12999364
Never noticed it til I was a smoker but everything is flavorless

>tfw don't even know if i've had grass fed beef ever
HELP

>>12999954
That means you destroyed your tastebuds you tard.

>>12999364
Based op

>>12999364
That's just plain untrue and you know it

>>13000215
Samefag

>>12999364
>t. Boils meat in its own juices by crowding the pan and never sears it

>>12999774
Do you even know how to make gravy.

With flour.

Its a non-meat seasoning you stupid kike.

>>12999859
Tofu has a very strong flavor that is actually quite hard to mask. It's barely edible. It actually does tend to taste like cardboard.
Ironically the best ways to serve tofu are similar enough to the ways of serving meat; fried in butter/oils and slathered in sauce.

Believe it or not you do not need to eat protein to produce protein.

>>13000724
Except OP is a liar and meat objectively has flavor.
Beef has flavor, pork has flavor, fish has flavor, venison has flavor. All distinct ones, different from each other.

>>13000754
Its a stretch to say they're absolutely flavorless; the point is their flavors are so light that they might as well not have flavor. Meat is constantly served seasoned or dressed with any variety of other things, and you find a cheeseburger produced the same way without the burger patty tastes much the same. The BBQ sauces that go on steak are the strongest flavor of the steak. The marinades and vinegars are the strongest flavor. The added salt is the strongest flavor. The dried herbs are the strongest flavor. The sidedish veggies are the strongest flavor. It is incredibly easy to mask the flavor of meat, and eating meat without seasonings or special cooking techniques (coal/wood smoking/etc.) leaves it virtually flavorless, and far less flavorful than similarly prepared fruits, veggies, mushrooms, grains, dairy, or eggs prepared in the same fashion. Far less nutritious than those other foods too.
Meat is absolutely an immoral harvest in every conceivable way. Animals don't even taste good enough to justify slaughtering them. It's a longstanding fucked up meme to eat flesh.

>>13000820
>the point is their flavors are so light that they might as well not have flavor
Not in my experience. Maybe you've destroyed your tastebuds with kale.

>Animals don't even taste good enough to justify slaughtering them.
Yes they do. Kill yourself, so you can fertilize some grazing for my eventual dinner.

>>13000927
Enjoy your heart disease

It very much depends on what the animal fed. Basically, a very indirect form of gut loading.
There's a reason why aged game tastes amazing.

>>13000988
Go read a biology textbook.

>>13000706
It's a thickener, not a seasoning you stupid fuck. You aren't using the flour for flavor, you're using it to adjust the consistency of the liquid, but you wouldn't know that because your taste buds are evidently malfunctioning on a cosmic scale.

>>12999364
>"hmm, tastes like chicken"
I know your trolling but it's damn clear that chicken, beef and pork taste entirely different, but here's you're (you) I guess, I'm retarded for replying.

>>13001225
everything tastes like chicken. why do you even think that phrase exists you gorilla nigger? its to describe the taste of something else that isn't chicken, usually an equally flavorless meat product.

>>13001218
you only need gravy if the meat is dry, and if the meat is dry then you've fucked up @cooking.

this thread is gay and also i am gay

>>13001258
*Nobody* has ever described pork or beef as tasting like chicken.

>>13001267
The point isn't whether or not the gravy is necessary, it's that flour isn't the main flavor component in gravy and meat drippings are, you idiot.

>>13001354
meat drippings?
you mean the fat?
the "juices"?
the fat?
you can get that shit from dairy or non-meat oils. add in salt.

I think you're just a stupid gorilla who doesn't know how to cook or how various things taste. Even despite being told multiple times in the thread that the majority of a meat dish's flavor comes from non-meat additives, you insist to not believe any meat dish prepared the same way with another different kind of meat will taste virtually identical. Meat has a flavor alright, and it tastes like chicken, and yet tasting like chicken is a completely different flavor from actual deep fried chicken where the majority of that taste is from the flour breading, herbs, salts, and non-meat fry oil. Every meat is shit. Meat is shit. Meat without fats is especially shit, yet fats can be ingested any other variety of ways that aren't rendered from meat. Most non-meat frying oils have a stronger flavor than meat 'juices'.
>hurrr durrrrrrrr HEAT MEAT THEN EAT
onions taste better than meat.
garlic tastes better than meat.
herbs and spices taste better than meat.
eggs taste better than meat.
dairy and eggs activate the same savory taste receptors as 'meat', which are based mostly on fats rather than the actual protein.
hell, mushrooms have a stronger flavor and virtually the same consistency as meat.
ironically, all these things are used to flavor meat dishes. Everything else has a unique flavor. Meat doesn't.

no one is asking you to eat bugs you stupid cuck. no one is asking you to drink soy.
exclude meat from your diet. literally everything else is still edible and nutritious. You want a hamburger? you still have the toasted buttered buns, the lettuce, the tomato, the mayo, the ketchup. If you're not eating like a poor, put some of the french fries you evidently prepared for the full meal into the buns where the meat patty would have been. You'll get 90% the same goddamn taste and wont know what you're missing.

>>13001482
Shut your faggot mouth, vegans need to fucking die.

>>13001503
Nigger you're going straight to hell for cruelty.
Animals are more present and aware than humans by a large margin. You're a goddamned, godforsaken demonic monster to eat animals. Would you eat your little brother? Would you eat your mother?

>>13001514
>Animals are more present and aware than humans by a large margin
No they fucking aren't, where's their empathy? Where's their abstract thinking?

They murder and rape each other all fucking day, that's the natural order, they should be thankful I'm quick about it and make the most out of them, they sure as fuck wouldn't consider my thoughts or feelings no matter what opportunity I gave them.
I am a predator, they are my prey, that is the natural order of the universe.

>insecure vegetarians SEETHING this hard

>>13001514
Animals eat animals all the time, yet I can't eat them? It's ok when they do it?

>>13001581
great post, totally didn't make yourself sound like a retard.

You're the one lacking empathy. That's why you can't recognize it.

>>13001514
I get it, you're a self-loathing cuck that believes animals are anything other than genetically programmed robots.
Doesn't remove humans from the top of the foodchain.

>>13001602
So when the wolf kills and eats the hare, where was his empathy?

Reminder that speciesism is normal and healthy, and deviating from it is grotesque and unnatural.

>>13001602
Animals don't have empathy.
They do not care for their sick, their injured, and their weak. They abandon them at best, consume them at worst.
If you think a wolf has one iota of empathy for anything outside its pack you're a schizo.
Animals are not magic. Animals are not little people. They don't give one flying fuck about you and cannot even process what you even are past food or a threat to them.

can we stop feeding the troll already?

The only substantial thing I’ve seen is that boiled meat is worse than boiled vegetables, and this has been use as proof of meat being flavorless by OP, but let’s get down to the nitty gritty real quick.

When you boil a potato, you are boiling a contained object yes? It has a skin and an interior. When you boiled a chunk of chuck roast, you are not boiling a contained object. You are boiling a piece of a contained object that now has no skin, no protection from the boiling water whatsoever. On top of that, heat renders all of the fat out of the meat and the water sucks out any electrolytes/water soluble nutrients/blood/juices that flavor the meat.

So basically, you’re comparing apples and oranges by mentioning the fact that both of them can be picked the exact same way. The cool part is, not everyone picks fruit the same way, and not every apple and orange is the same as every other apple and orange.

Try boiling and eating a rabbit whole, see if it’s less flavorful than whole potato, I fucking dare you faggot

>>12999364
Naw this is just what happens to american vegetarians when they over consume sugar and salt it makes it harder to pick up on subtler scents and flavors and then dull their tastebuds with such excessive spice it’d scare someone who cooks Indian food.

>>13001618
Animals may have empathy if they're intelligent enough for it, like canines or corvids, the former of which we made.
That is not to say that intelligence guarantees empathy, felines may be quite intelligent, yet also rather cruel with their prey, purely for enjoyment.

>>13001258
Again, here's another (you)
You're not even trying to seem like a believable autist at this point.

>>13001614
Where was yours for not capturing the wolf and feeding it so it wouldn't eat the hare.

God made Adam and Eve to tend to the garden of Eden and care for the animals.
God didn't make Adam and Eve to eat the animals.

>>13001671
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=everything+tastes+like+chicken

>>13001640
nigga who the fuck boils whole potatoes.
that shit is either getting peeled and/or cubed. you peel onions too. you peel garlic too. most sane people peel their veggies. the pulp of the veggie is exposed just the same as the grain of a meat. And yes, the fats of a meat will probably dissolve into the water and leave the meat, but those juices are not an explicit product of solely meat. It might come attached to the meat, but any non-meat dish could be given the same kick with non-meat oils or dairy to provide fats just the same. If much of the flavor of a meat comes from it's fat content, that's fucking sad and says something about how relatively flavorless the actual grain meat itself is. Bout the only lifestyle that can't accommodate alternative fats are mong eskimos living in the arctic where nothing grows and there are no dairy producing animals and they get fats from blubber.

>>13001672
I don't really give a fuck about any of that, I'm agnostic.
What I'm saying is that animals eat animals as part of the food chain, some animals (such as felines), are evolved exclusively for a meat diet and will not live a healthy life on anything but meat, meaning irrefutable evidence of animals being food.

Now here's the kicker, humans are animals too, and as part of the food chain, we will eat other animals to sustain ourselves.
The order of the universe is that for something to continue to live, something else has to die.

>>13001863
humans are definitely not animals.

>>13001956
>humans are fungi!
Anon, a very shortbus with guys in white coats just pulled up.

>>13001956
We're animate, aren't we?

>>13001956
Humans objectively are animals. That's not debatable. Look up the definition of animal, faggot

>>13002665
>>13002067
>>13002107
thats not how that works.

Animals have souls.
Humans do not.

>>13002688
ergo if humans were animals, humans would have souls.
but humans do not have souls.
so humans aren't animals.

It's really quite simple.

>>13002688
Well the definition of animal has nothing to do with souls. You're confusing your opinion with facts.

Blindfolded you would easily be able to tell the difference between beef and lamb. Or chicken and duck or salmon and cod.
I was a vegetarian for 8 years and it sucked. I'd have health kicks in the summer and then just eat processed shit the rest of the year. Was so happy going back to a balanced diet

>>12999372
Shut the fuck up nigger

>>13002741
if all were cooked and prepared the same exact way and served in small chunks that any of the meat could have been reasonably cut into, probably not no.

It's also less of the point that even a simple slice of cooked white mushroom has more flavor in a similar sized serving than any of those meats. Meat is relatively flavorless compared to everything that isn't meat.

Invest in fresh premium meat, even if it means not consuming it every day. Fresh anything is always better, even if it requires a little extra work.

>>13002777
based racism poster with trips

>>12999459
>Steaks need sauce
You sound like a fucking anglo.

>>13002839
Marinades and sauces make a steak.
The 2nd runner up is grilling, but that is an alternative non-meat flavor additive from coals.

Yeah brug just run down to the market and grab a steak and bring it home and throw it directly on a frying pan for maximum potential of proving your point. No crying about a lack of seasonin, salt, pepper, herbs, marinades, or sauces though. Enjoy your 15 dollar hunk of moist cardboard.

>>13000820
>a cheeseburger produced the same way without the burger patty tastes much the same
Objectively false.

>The BBQ sauces that go on steak are the strongest flavor of the steak
Steak isn't served with sauces you tard.

Pic related it's me.

op is right but still a faggot
meat has very good texture so meat + herbs is god like combo
seitan is shit soi is shit vegetable protein is shit

enjoy every meal being a porridge

>>13002879
It's true you stupid fag. Your cravings for meat dishes will disappear entirely when you eat the same dish meat-removed. It tastes the goddamned fucking same. Meat is just a sponge filled with grease.

op is right. i ust went to wendys and ordered a jr. Cheeseburger Deluxe, no patty, with fries. brought it home, tossed some fries in the sandwich, nuked it for 15 seconds to melt the cheese, and it tastes as much like any wendy's burger I remember eating. the flavor is in the condiments and toppings and bread 100%.

>>13002688
So you're some sort of cultist?

>>13002809
Imagine that, drowning your meat in spices makes the meat just taste like spices.

>>12999380
based
>>12999364
>>12999898
retard

>>12999931
couldnt be related to the fact that the vegetables boiled have a skin to contain their juices and fiber while the meat doesnt and all the flavour goes to the fucking water and thats called a goddamn broth? get the fuck out of the Cooking board you retarded shit

>>13001730
>peeling vegetables
You might as well just toss out the whole fucking thing in that case

>>13004005
there were no mention of spices.

>>13002907
I would pity you for never enjoying good meat, but you're such a faggot that I'm glad you're not going to consume a limited resource that decent people will actually appreciate.

>>12999502
Why do you insist on giving away all of your modern luxuries because billion dollar corporations polluted the earth, the rich will still have access to the finest meats while us plebs gave it all away, Sad.

>>12999650
Kekd audibly

>>12999899
Oh nonononono

>>13002872
>shifting the goalposts

Steak needs salt, but so does literally every other food. Even bread has salt added. Stop ruining your steak with marinades now.

>>13006415
impressive. you went straight to crying about a lack of seasoning.

>>13002741
Salmon certainly has a flavor. It’s unmistakable. It’s one of the most uniquely flavored fish.

>>13007328
Meat eaters are the brainlets of /ck/. So many people who have shit palettes and barely eat any variety.

>>13007441
Day of the steak, soon.

>>12999364
Oh look, a larper. Keep working hard to justify an unjustifiable diet.