/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12947216
If it's been previously frozen it's good to go. Freezing kills any potential parasites. You'll want to look for fish that says it was packaged the day you're buying it or the day before to be safe. You'll probably be fine a little later than that, but it's a little riskier. Either way you won't die or get seriously injured, you might just get an upset stomach.

How does packaged salmon even taste raw? I'd imagine it wouldn't taste nearly as good as fresh salmon.

its prob fine

>>12947227
7 days is the proper time right? Would something like this be labeled on the package?
>>12947234
No clue but I'm willing to try

>>12947242
Japan doesn't freeze their food when preparing high-quality fish.

>>12947227
>>12947245
>Alternatively, freeze the fish to an internal temperature of -4°F for at least 7 days to kill any parasites that may be present.
Just freezing it won't kill them, or freezing for 7 days. It has to also be frozen at a certain temperature, -4F.

I don't think I'd risk it if it doesn't say sushi grade. Wild fish apparently has a pretty high rate of containing parasites.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168160518309383
>All examined wild-caught fish species were parasitized, except for 5 species for each of which only a few subjects belonging to the same batch were sampled
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2761015
>All wild-caught salmon were found to be infected with larval A. simplex
This doesn't mean 100% of wild caught fish has parasites but much more likely than not to contain them.

I'm a third worlder and I'm pretty sure most sushi places here don't use sushi grade salmon as I have never seen sushi grade salmon anywhere here , I've looked for suppliers online and there are none in my country, there are companies that sell fresh salmon, same with the supermarket but not sushi (frozen) salmon. I'm pretty sure I'm parasite ridden

>>12947283
And that's a good thing, hehe.

>>12947293
Blessed st4bige

>>12947283
how would one even check if they were parasite ridden? I actually just came back from visiting family in Asia and I ate street food sashimi multiple nights....

>>12947251
No, they freeze larger fish because its tougher. Tuna MUST be frozen because a) it tastes like shit fresh and b) its very tough. Every single instance of tuna sashimi or sushi in Japan is frozen at least for a couple of days up to a few weeks.

>>12947396
Literally use your eyes dumbass.
Also op lemme learn you. Sashimi grade means nothing at all. Its a marketing term. It just means the fish has been inspected and appears free of parasites, also typically 9 times out of ten its been flash frozen. Sticking your fish into a normal consumer grade freezer WILL NOT be cold enough to kill off the parasites. Your absolute best bet is to know where the fish was caught to know the quality of water it came from, only eat extremely fresh fish, and inspect it with your eyes before eating. Do some research on parasites that live in fish and how to identify and dispose of them.

>>12947711
>Sticking your fish into a normal consumer grade freezer WILL NOT be cold enough to kill off the parasites.

why not?

what kind of parasite can survive being frozen into ice?

>>12947714
See >>12947263
Needs to be frozen at -4F, which is probably colder than most home freezers. A lot of simpler organisms actually survive freezing.

>>12947396
Wondering the same thing. Visited Zijuataneo, Mexico and chartered a boat with just me and my wife and caught sailfish and mahi-mahi. The skipper took us to an island where there was a restaurant and they prepared some of the meat sashimi style. It was delicious, but I probably got parasites, who knows?
>inb4 go to a for profit medfag
Nope.

>>12947714
the ones inside fish that live in deep cold waters most of their lives
in order for the parasites to be successful they need to survive in both the food the salmon eat, and the salmon themselves, so they build up an endurance to the cold, and being that they're very simple organisms they're quite prone to not dying of complications, like being cut in half

theres much more complex animals that can handle being frozen like some types of frogs

>>12947216
perfectly fine

dont worry

>>12947768
But to be fair, the parasites that live in deep cold waters can't necessarily survive being frozen
for the most part, they are inside of the animals which aren't the same ice cold temperatures that you might find in some places
being cold resistant doesn't mean coldproof

>>12947216
Raw? Sure. Fresh? Absolutely not. It must be deep-frozen for considerable time to be safe for consumption. "Fresh" is bullshit and sushi enthusiasts generally recognize frozen fish yields superior flavor.

>>12949076
well for one, fish are cold blooded, this thread isn't about parasite filled dolphins and whales.

these parasitic nematodes have a better chance of surviving being frozen than the fish do, and their host fish don't typically get frozen in ice and end up on your table. If they did, they'd never swim into the net because they'd be not only mostly parasite free, but dead.

and it's not the parasites themselves that need to necessarily survive, just their offspring, which sits inside the nematode until they hatch from their parent like the movie alien, but with a lot more worms.

nematodes once again, are not complex organisms, and are adapted to survive generationally almost like a dandelion on a lawn, it doesn't matter if the mother dies as long as the seeds grow the species continues

I've got a 4 star freezer, which in Europe means it freezes stuff under -18 degrees celsius. Is that enough to kill off parasites?

>>12950407
Almost but not quite.

Are you going to make sushi or are you going to eat it raw because like the rest of /ck/ you can't actually cook?

>>12947216
get norwegian farm raised salmon and learn how to check freshness in fish
all that shit is flash frozen and kept clean in a farming environment

>>12950407
you need a medical grade freezer my dude

>>12947234
unless you catch the salmon yourself every piece of salmon you've had in your life has been flash frozen

Good thread. Learned a lot. Thanks guys

>>12949064
Wtf

>>12950830
just because /ck/ cant cook doesnt mean they dont try tho

>>12951079
Not really, but you living in a flyover state I get your understanding

Do NOT eat any freshwater fish or semi-freshwater fish (like salmon) raw. The same parasites that can live in them can also live in you. Ocean parasites though generally cannot, so as long as the fish doesn’t smell or taste rotten, you can eat it raw to your heart’s content.

>>12949064
this was from years and years of eating raw pork

>>12947251
Yes they do. It's the law.

>>12947216
>sashimi grade
This and sushi grade are made up marketing labels that dont have anything legal surrounding them.

yeah eat raw, fuck it
fuck it yeah, eat raw

The label says "Premium Norwegian Salmon". Center cut but no info on the box regarding frozen/packed date. Product of Denmark. Would this be safe to eat raw?