/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12927292
>chili water
yeh nah

Had this for the first time this year, and as someone who doesn't fucknwith seafood that much couldn't stop eating it.

It's Fantastic! Unseal that /pol/ conditioned mind and try a new dish.

>>12927349
>that /pol/ conditioned mind
Funny you mention that. Dumbass.

>>12927322
Pussy

>>12927292
seafood stews are the best stews

>>12927796
Moron

>>12927803
>>12927803
This isn't a stew, more like a ceviche. I'd say a better version of ceviche.

>>12927292
Why does all Mexican food taste the same?

>>12928374
Every food taste the same

>>12927349
yikes

>>12927292
why is it being served in a mortar bowl

>>12927349
>pol conditions people not to eat food
Dude you're kind of a fucking faggot

>>12929533
Fuck you that's why

>>12928336
it's pretty much a stew

>>12927349
I've been permab& from both /pol/s for being too extreme and you're a fucking retarded. Also, the true patrician mexican soup is pozole.
>was the aztec equivalent of the christmas ham
>served during the maiz harvest festival
>originally cooked with human flesh
>can only get it with pork now ;_;

>>12929949
>Red over Green
kys

>>12928374
What food tastes the same anon?

>>12928374
Cumin.

>>12927292
>Aguachile is the best Mexican dish
lol no even close

>>12929949
>>can only get it with pork now ;_;
my family dont eat cerdo, we doit with res

>>12930006
Nothing comes close to the perfect raw dish you uncultured swine

>>12929533
It's called a molcajete you shitty little basterd

>>12929889
It is never heated, tho

>>12929997
I only know of one Mexican dish that uses it. Tex-Mex on the other hand...

>>12929997
That's American food. Mexicans don't use spices.

>>12930298
I’ve seen a lot of people using allspice in the South. But yes, mexicans use 80% herbs and chilies, 20% spices that are not black pepper

>>12930308
Cinnamon
Cumin
Cloves
Allspice
Ginger
Anise
???

>>12930676

>>12930676
>cumin is barely used except on heavy dishes and red rice
>mexicans never use allspice or ginger
>the rest are used for desserts unless making cochinita pibil or another mayan concoction
>mixing up mexican and cajun cusine

>>12930822
>mexicans never use allspice or ginger
>What is Mole negro
>What is Birria de Tijuana
>What is Tatemado de Puerco

>the rest are used for desserts unless making cochinita pibil or another mayan concoction
>What is estofado de bodas
>What is Mole rosa
>What is Mole de xico

>cumin is barely used except on heavy dishes and red rice
This is literally one of the worst posts on /ck/. Almost every dish that calls for an adobo will have cumin.
Birria? Has cumin
Al pastor? Has cumin
Tinga tostadas? has cumin
Asado de bodas? has cumin
Caldillo Durangueño? has cumin
Chilpachole? has cumin
Go pick up a Diana Kennedy cookbook. You sound like you're American, or even worse, an irrelevant shithole like Jalisco. Next you're going to tell me soy sauce is nonexistent in Mexican cuisine

>>12927292
I’ll have a glass of leche de tigre to go, OP

>>12930285
Yeah it is.

>>12931131
No.

>>12930014
filthy jew
fuck off

>>12931004
>Diana Kennedy
thats right she likes sharing her mexican family recipes.

>>12927292
BAAAHAADAAA BIIING BAADAA BOOOM

KNOW WHAT I'M A SAYIN SON? HA HAAAA

>>12929997
Cooooomin

>>12931150
Yup. Look up seafood stew and you'll see the same shit.

>>12932728
Nope.

>>12929949
Not true man the best pizoli I get has human meat in it. It's a gamble though as you never know what kind of human you're getting it from. You can ask but I prefer to live dangerously

>>12932794
Yes. Thanks.

>>12932849
No man

>>12932854
Literally the same thing.

>>12932952
Not at all

>>12927796
chili is fucking disgusting

>>12927349
Nigger you can be extremely racist and still enjoy latin american food, and date non-white people and become friends and have kids with them
It's 2019

>>12929949
>permab& from both /pol/s
What did you say there?

>>12929949
>people made recipes specifically for human flesh
>probably tasted like wild boar
>now we get domestic cuck-swine
>probably not even faithful to the flavour

>>12927292
That would cost a small fortune to make around here. I guarantee you no spics are actually eating this on a regular basis. They have lawns to mow and leaves to blow, they definitely don't eat that.

>>12933489
It's more coastal... Aside from seriously metropolitan North America, there's a good chance that if you can take a five minute walk and get fresh, cheap seafood, then you've got some good, cheap seafood recipes.

Aguachile is fucking shit

For me, it's caldo de mariscos

>>12932977
It is.

>>12934307
nope

>>12934356
literally a seafood stew

How are seafood stews so based?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxezIlQz1KY

>>12929533
It's able to hold the heat better.

Mocajete estilo Mexicano reporting in. Y'all niggas missing out.

>>12934372
no

>>12930676
>Cinnamon
That one a lot for sweets
>Cummin
Never seen people use it
>Cloves
Alongside cinnamon and in a few salty dishes
>Allspice
Only one I know is used more than in a few dishes
>Ginger
Never seen anyone use it
>Anise
Alongside cinnamon

>>12934742
We have already determined that yes, yes it is.

>>12934946
lol no

>>12931004
Almost all of those are moles or adobos. Hardly something that people prepare every day

>>12934966
>Hardly something that people prepare every day
Adobo is everywhere. In your tacos, in your stews, in your seafood, in your vegetables. Cumin is in a lot of Mexican dishes

>>12934972
In street food; yes. But adobo is not an everyday food. I speak from living in Oaxaca, Guadalajara, Tijuana, Culiacán and Colima, As much as people love those dishes they are not common to eat, more like a treat

>>12929949
I would never choose pozole over menudo. Pozole is just menudo for faggots.

>>12927292
The best food of any kind is always subjective.

With that said, aguachile is great. I can buy it by the pound at my local market. I like the green one, but they're all good. They also have some spicy ceviches. I love the one with chiltepin.

>>12935167
Then you zhould chooze it

>>12931004
Adobo is literally a mutt invention that only became popular in the past two decades.

Mods, please kill this shit thread or I'm killing another geezer at the hospice I work in

>>12935180
adobo has been since the prehispanic times, negro

>>12935243
Amerimutts btfo

>>12935234
White boy no like chile? jajajaja mira como se llore. El va a matar un anciano porque el no le gusta aguachile. jajajaja no mames, güey. No necesitas llorar aqui. Chinga tu madre, cabron.

>>12935153
Even if it's true, it is pretty much irrelevant if it's an everyday food or not. The fact that there's at least 100 mexican dishes that calls for cumin shows that it's a common spice. Even the national dish has cumin for an ingredient

>>12935246
>moving the goalpost

>>12934962
Survey says YES.

>>12935270
nope

>>12935258
Post recipes from actual books that are 30+ years old

>>12935273
You are very mistaken.

>>12935279
nope

>>12935248
suck my verga you bajo indio

>>12935180
Adobo (its formal description) is just mole with garlic and vinegar,

>>12935248
Your kind are the worse
>inb4: Mamón
Quite frankly with your Spanish it would not surprise me that you are not mexican

>>12935258
>there's at least 100 Mexican dishes that calls for cumin
which would make less than 1% or Mexican dishes. And not that it even matters, if you understood Mexican cooking you would see that there is not a single fixed recipe, everyone and their grandmas has their own version that claims to be the original. That is just one of the characteristics of Mexican cuisine, alongside it being classless, communitarian, and involving the process from the field to the table. If theory holds more weight than practice for you then you are missing the point.
And not even once have I seen anyone make Chiles in Nogada with cumin

>>12935278
https://www.eatyourbooks.com/library/recipes/472633/pork-in-adobo-puerco-en

>make Chiles in Nogada with cumin
But that's not Mole

>>12935296
>>12935309

>>12935303
Look at all those spices! wtf I thought Mexicans never used cloves and cinnamon in savory dishes

>>12935309
>>12935312
The official national dish is Chiles in Nogada, not mole
And mole is such a loose therm that saying that it uses cumin is like saying that all moles use, lets say, burned chili seeds because oaxacan black mole uses it. There are some that even use bananas, moles in general use a lot of things but a single mole is not going to use everything

>>12935333
It's actually Mole and even Larousse de la comida Mexicana states this.

>And mole is such a loose therm that saying that it uses cumin is like saying that all moles use, lets say, burned chili seeds because oaxacan black mole uses it. There are some that even use bananas, moles in general use a lot of things but a single mole is not going to use everything
You guys keep bringing this up but disregard the fact that other regions can use ingredients that are unheard in similar dishes(ginger, anise, allspice).

>>12935303
Cherry picking

>>12935379
Different sources list either or both

disregard the fact that other regions can use ingredients that are unheard in similar dishes
So? It's a regional thing, just because someone uses ginger it does not mean that it is common enough to be considered essential. Just because I saw some zoomers making kimchi tacos in Tijuana does it mean that now kimchi is a mexican ingredient?

>>12935403
>It's a regional thing, just because someone uses ginger it does not mean that it is common enough to be considered essential.
It's considered to essential enough to be in Mexican cookbooks and authorized by the most autistic traditionalist so yes

>>12935421
Who? Diana Kennedy?

>See enchiladas
>Turn it into a casserole
>See Stuffed peppers
>Turn it into a casserole
What will be next?

>>12935421
No one in my household has used ginger in their lifes. My traditional grandma apart from cookies never used ginger or allspice while cooking on her shitty ranch for 9+ people in her 80+ years.

My entire mexican family awes at me for saying i use ginger for food. Citing a handful of popular dishes of a given cusine doesnt make the entire cusine said dishes. Oaxaca is not the rest of Mexico, and no one bastes their daily meals in adobo madness or cinnamon no matter the region. Those are usually reserved for desserts or taco shops. And that one fringe cookbook is not the entirety of all.

Daily mexican dishes:
sopa de tortilla
"baked" beans (boiled for a period of time)
bean burritos
carne deshebrada (no, people dont use allspice for this, retard)
pork chops (sometimes in chipotle sauce)
ceviches (if coastal and it isnt daily just typical)
normal sandwiches like a normal person
caldo de pollo/res
flautas (hardly common but typical)
the ocasional beef taco with salsa
tinga (beef onion and tomato sauce)
enchiladas
sopes
quesadillas
None are actual spice heavy or use much more than regular pepper and 6 cumin seeds at most. Bay leafs are more prevalent.

Stop pretending all mexican cusine uses the same ingredients for everything. Using that one spice for mole/adobo is not a common thing for every other dish. Also in case youre >>12931004 english sauce (maggi) is more widely used than fucking soy sauce you cherrypicking pendejo.

actually chilaquiles are the best

>>12935283
Si.

i love you

>>12935683
no

>>12935738
Facts are facts.

>>12935572
>my family
>my
>me
That's why you're wrong, faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHoJJiOhqTc

>and no one bastes their daily meals in adobo madness or cinnamon no matter the region
90% of asado de boda recipes uses cinnamon, so wrong again.

>>12935756
that's wrong, so no

>>12929949
>I've been permab& from both /pol/s for being too extreme
Damn bro when you died did God say that you were too evil for Heaven but Satan was too scared to allow you into Hell so now you walk the line between the dual abyss of reality work no place to call home???

>>12935793
Remain ignorant if you must, but the truth is out there.

>>12935948
no

>>12935981
So you admit defeat? I should have guessed!

>>12935773
>That's why you're wrong, faggot
Telling someone that their family recipe is wrong is a very dickish thing to do

And Asado de boda is not eaten daily, so he is right when he said "[...]no one bastes their daily meals in adobo madness or cinnamon[...]"
Daily, he said daily

>>12936100
>Telling someone that their family recipe is wrong is a very dickish thing to do
It's no different than disregarding a dish that has ginger in the original recipe because he has never eaten it in his life
>And Asado de boda is not eaten daily, so he is right when he said "[...]no one bastes their daily meals in adobo madness or cinnamon[...]"
And like I said, it's irrelevant. Not every Mexican will eat Mexican food everyday. It doesn't matter. I know Mexicans who have will eat 2 mexican dishes at best a week and eat nothing but pastas and other types of italian foods. Americans are a good example of this.

>>12927292
I order this every time I go to the movie theater.

>>12936132
>It's no different than disregarding a dish that has ginger in the original recipe because he has never eaten it in his life
Again, read a book about the philosophy of Mexican cooking
>And like I said, it's irrelevant. Not every Mexican will eat Mexican food everyday[...]
So? He pointed out how Asado de Boda is such a speciality dish that using it as an example of how Mexicans use cinnamon all the time proves very little, and your counter-argument was basically [B-But it has cinnamon!]. You missed the point while replying him and me

>>12935990
>>12935990
No.

>>12929949
>originally cooked with human flesh
>can only get it with pork now ;_;
What's the difference?

>>12936901
Incorrect.

>>12936947
n

>>12936972
mmhm

>>12937103
n

>>12937200
mmmmyup

>>12931004
>t.rick bayless

>>12935248
>t.hijo de Tizoc

>>12937206
no

>>12937260
yes yes yes yes yes

>>12937265
no

>>12933477
Humans are domestic cuckswine

>>12937272
はい

>>12937294
いいえ

>>12927292

There’s something unsettling about all those crab hands.

>>12929949
Best Mexican soup is birria, faggot.

>>12937581
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF-uO5kS0CU

Good places to eat in Mexico:
Oaxaca
Baja California
Veracruz
DF

Pretty good places to eat in Mexico:
Puebla
Sinaloa
Yucatan
Michoacan
Guerrero
Sonora
Chiapas
Shit:
Jalisco

>>12929533
'cause it's going to come shooting out your ass like hot lava

>>12928374
You only eat Tex mex

>>12935246
>Texture
>Mexican food
lmao, I've been to mexico multiple times and half the food was literal slop. Peru at least had good food and the women post 20 weren't goblins like in Mexico.

>>12937798
they're both shit in terms of food.
>post 20 weren't goblins like in Mexico.
both are mainly indians and peruvians have mmore indians.

White people can't handle spices

>>12937323
Yaaaaas

>>12938941
no

>>12928336
>>12929889
>>12930285
>>12931131
>>12931150
>>12932728
>>12932794
>>12932849
>>12932854
>>12932952
>>12932977
>>12934307
>>12934356
>>12934372
>>12934742
>>12934946
>>12934962
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>>12935273
>>12935279
>>12935283
>>12935683
>>12935738
>>12935756
>>12935793
>>12935948
>>12935981
>>12935990
>>12936901
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>>12936972
>>12937103
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>>12937206
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>>12937294
>>12937323
>>12938941
>>12939448

>>12928336
GREAT sea urchin ceviche

>>12940180
BUYHH BUHHHHH DURRE I QUOTE EVERYONE LOOK HOW FUNNEH I AM!! INCLUDE ME IN DA SCREENCAP!!!

>>12939448
Survey says: YES!

>>12940365
no

>>12940486
I meant yes btw if that matters.

>>12940565
no i mean no

>>12940180
MIGA!

>"eating" literal chile water
Do mexcrement really?

Not everyone has to like the same food friends :)

>>12940190
Based seething retard.

>>12934408
Ate that years ago. I want to eat it again!

>>12935246
This bitch can fuck off. Mexican cuisine is diverse and there's no single way to do it.

>>12930092
Is molcajete also a kind of stew or soup? Had a dish at a mexican restaurant called that, but don't know if it was a thing.

It was a really good fucking meal.

>>12927292
That bowl looks unsanitary as fuck. There's a reason we started putting glaze on dishes and bowls.

>>12941396
Molcajete is not a dish, it's just a mortar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l97D8IM1YpY
Tell me this shit isn't the best

>>12937901
Peruvian Amerindians are cuter

>>12941690
Shit taste. No indians are cute

>>12940582
Sure you did.

>>12941837
nooo

>>12941854
no you meant yes? then we are in agreement!

>>12942017
no i mean no!

>>12942115
I think you truly mean yes.

>>12927292
>the best
get the fuck out of here
lousy choice of whatever is hot ten years ago

>>12942163
t. spic from a shithole

>>12927292
>Aguachile
so its essentially just ceviche with a chili or jalapeno puree

>>12942202
The original one yes, but there's various types of making aguachile

>>12942227
post your favorite so i know what to make next

>>12942241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iGXPMmvhE
Something similar to this without the bouillon

>>12935397
You got BTFO

>>12942274
awesome ty

>>12930298
Lol wut

>>12933489
Yeah, no. Seafood is common

>>12934966
Speak for yourself. Mole and pipian are prepared pretty regularly in a lot of households

>>12930822
>cumin is barely used except on heavy dishes and red rice
Pinche Pendejo

>>12927322
motherfaggot have you ever tasted it, it''s sweet, specially combien with clamato or ketchup

>>12927292
Unhealthy

This fucker does nothing but BBQ and he says he would trade all the meat in the world for this dish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV57FtlbO28
Is it that good?

>>12941396
>>12941466 is right but it can also mean a dish that served in one, it can be used as a bowl. Honestly it is quite showy and unpractical, I would not be surprised if it was created as a tourist attraction. On the other hand someone not having a bowl and eating things from their molcajete is not an outlandish idea

>>12945868
Capsaicin has addictive properties. Good aguachile is just spicy enough that the addiction just barely overpowers the burning sensation, it should make you think "My mouth is burning, but I can't stop eating". Quite different from those super spicy dishes where the burning sensation makes you want to stop immediately after a single bite.
Combine that with the fresh feelings lemon, raw onions, and cucumber which give you a break from the heat, plus the fact that it is served cold and you get a nice balance of temperatures. The texture is also of note, the shrimp's proteins are denaturalized by the acid, but it stays soft if not just a bit firm.
I should also add that this is a summer dish, it being served cold and going well with cold drinks helps a lot when enjoying the beach.
>t. Sinaloan Masterace