/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12911316
It isn't. Get yourself a lidded 10"-12" non-stick, a lidded 12-14" stainless steel, a quality saucepan, and an 8-12qt pot. CBA to look up brands and prices but that's a great start.

If you take the time to watch a ten-minute Youtube video on how to season and maintain it it's completely amateur friendly.
It used to be what everybody used for all their cooking and if some illiterate peasant can figure it out you surely can as well, right?
Don't rush out and buy a shitload of kitchen gear right away, though. Use some hammydowns or get some cheap shit from the secondhand store. Do a little cooking and get a feel for what you actually need. Some people will tell you that a stockpot is essential, for example, but if you never make soup or stock you don't really need one, do you?
Also, you might get lucky and find some decent CI for cheap at those shops. No harm in looking.

Fuck cast iron, stainless steel does everything it does better and more

>>12911316
So, here's the deal OP imma give it to you straight: two types of cringey retards are gonna flood this board one side will say that a cast iron pan needs to be treated like fine porcelain or you're doing it wrong and the other side will say that because you need to treat it like fine China to go with nonstick. Truth is they're both retarded.

A cast iron pan is cheap and comes factory pre seasoned and that pre seasoning will do you just fine so long as you add a small drizzle of oil to the pan. It is very versatile and works well stove to oven and vice versa and can bake well too. Also, and this is key here, it requires almost no maintenance. When you're done using it simply wipe it out with a paper towel while it's still warm but not too hot to handle. If anything is stuck it scrapes out quickly and easily with a metal spatula. Occasionally something might happen where you get something sugary like balsamic stuck to the bottom. Just boil water in the pan and it lifts right off.

I would say that CI is one of the best for beginners because it is very forgiving for when you fuck up and it is very cheap and will never break. Anyways this thread is about to turn into a shit storm hope you read this and hope it helps. I'm out.

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>>12911404
I've watched some videos on seasoning and it doesn't seem too bad. Is the only downside to fucking up seasoning it that shit just sticks to it?

Get a non stick pan and cook with it for a while. Then if you still care enough get cast iron.

Pros of cast iron:
>You can say you use cast iron and humble brag about how 'easy' it is to use and how friggin superior you are to people who don't use it. You can also say the stupid 'PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE AGES USED IT SO ITS EASY , IT SO EASY SEE' argument
>get better 'crust' on soi boy meme foods like steak

Cons:
>food might stick if you don't season it 'properly'
>you need to figure out what 'properly seasoned' means, you will get bullshit vague answers everywhere: from keeping it in the oven for 6 hours to just put oil on it and cook, even following exact instructions might not do it, you will get vague stupid answers like 'just do it again, works on my machine!' type of shit.
>even when properly seasoned food might stick (you don't say it does, just claim it's PERFECTLY NON STICK BETTER THAN TEFLON and say that anyone who disagrees just doesn't do it properly)
>you have to baby it all the time, can't use soap because it will fuck up, need to use a chainmail to clean it or some other retarded shit, basically a ritual every time you cook (yet cast iron fans will claim otherwise, it's part of the 'meme' to say it's easy to take care of)

It's called a 'meme pan' for a reason. The meme is (and people wont tell you this) is that the main attraction of the pan is the humble brag aspect, the 'achievement' you get for seasoning it 'properly' and the rights to say 'its so easy even peasants did it!'

For actual cooking get non stick and stainless steel. A carbon steel wok for asian shit. That's it.

Fuck that, stainless steel and nonstick take care of your needs 100%. Cast iron is only promoted by nostalgic "grandma used it" types and faggots who want to appear unique and interesting. Completely obsolete.

>>12911414
Yeah pretty much. And little spots where the seasoning got fucked up tend to work themselves out after a few rounds of frying bacon. The real trick is to not obsess over cleaning it with soap and water every time and to just wipe it clean with a paper towel most times. Occasional washing is fine but daily washing is unnecessary and prevents the pan from self seasoning as you cook. And the more you use the pan the better. I use mine everyday so I'm seasoning on a daily basis basically and since I'm always wiping it clean and adding fresh oil it never goes rancid or anything like that.

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>>12911443
Why are (((they))) pushing the non stick coating (((commercial))) stuff?

>>12911516
If anything it's cast iron being pushed everywhere where from YouTube to 4chan and leddit

>>12911523
Non stick bullshit has chemicals in them that (((they))) want you ingesting.

>>12911532
Sure it does budy, now go back to /pol/ please this is embarrassing

>>12911523
>a bunch of social media sites where people volunteer info based on their opinions and tastes vs. Hours and hours of infomercials for 4 decades pushing memelon
Really activated my almonds with that post anon.

>>12911581
This, youtubers and e celebs are completely honest and never have an agenda. Youtubers=good

>>12911316
first cookware I bought when moving out of my parents' house was cast iron
that was 12 years ago, and I still use it as my primary pan
you really only have to season it once (though I do it a couple times a year because I like it to be shiny)
either get a lodge and re-season it or pick up some rusted to hell thing from an """"antique shop"""" (thrift store)
I like it better than other non-stick pans because if I do happen to get something stuck to it or abuse it in the sink it's really no big deal
I just re-season it and be on my way
I had one teflon pan that lasted MAYBE 3 months before one tiny scratch from someone using a metal spoon to scoop contents ruined it
I also tried a ceramic pan which lasted a bit longer - maybe a year - before it lost its nonstick properties entirely
probably from scrubbing too harshly in the sink
99% of my cooking takes place between two 10 inch cast irons and one 7 inch cast iron
I have a 7 inch all clad that I use for sauces sometimes (especially pan sauces), and then I have some aluminum sauce pans for the majority of my sauces

>>12911571
The (((they))) in question is not Jews but the DuPont family who are one of the richest and oldest money power houses in the US and their corporation is a top 5 polluter thanks to products like Teflon. Pull your head out of your ass and breathe some fresh air (oh wait we can't anymore DuPont poisoned it all)

>>12911404
>fucking up your seasoning by scraping with a metal spatula
something tells me you don't know what the seasoning does

>>12911589
The paid shills on YouTube are pro Teflon. There's a thread up right now about it. Go check the catalog new friend.

>>12911601
How do you even type this without cringing

>>12911603
Lol nigger it's fine a seasoning is a polymerized bond between the iron and the oil. You would have to exert enough strength to gouge deeply into the iron with your spatula. A light scraping with the flat of the spat won't do this. I don't care what you've read online from a memeblogger. A good seasoning is EXTREMELY durable.

>>12911421
how's this for specificity?
>lightly coat pan in vegetable oil
>bring it to the smoke point
>smoke it until it stops smoking
>wipe it down
there ya go - your pan is now seasoned
the entire point is to break down the fat into the glassy smooth nonstick substance
generally it's not fun to do this inside due to all the smoke, so I personally do it on my grill

>>12911610
How do you not know who DuPont is or what they do? Ignorance is bliss I guess I hope you're at least living fairly happily day to day being this ignorant.

>>12911625
I bet you clean yours with a steel scrubber too

>>12911640
Nope. Don't even bother just wipe it out with a paper towel or boil water for sticky stuff. If you've seasoned properly everything lifts off with minimal effort no scrubbing necessary.

>>12911669
stop spinning tales for OP

>>12911316
>cast iron
Cast iron is a meme. Get carbon steel.

>>12911636
Stop posting it's embarrassing.

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>>12911678
Cool story shill
>20 polluters of 2010, legally discharging over 5,000,000 pounds (2,300,000 kg) of toxic chemicals into New Jersey and Delaware waterways.[60] In 2016, Carneys Point Township, New Jersey, where the facility is located, initiated a $1.1 billion lawsuit against the corporation, accusing it of divesting an unprofitable company without first remediating the property as required by law.[61]

>>12911316
Get a cast iron pan, a cast iron Dutch oven, a saucepan, and a wok. The Dutch oven is the best piece of cookware you can own. You can deep dry with it and make a ton of classic French and American one pot meals like stews and braised. The wok is for stir fry and curries and fried rice. The saucepan is for sauce while you can cook the pasta or rice in the Dutch oven. The cast iron pan is for anything a normal pan does. You do not need a nonstick pan. Just oil the pan after use and wipe it clean with a paper towel. I hear my dutchie and cast iron pan in the oven at 400F while prepping other things. I made bacon, fried hash browns in the grease, and fried two eggs in that for breakfast this morning.

>>12911690
>posts random factoid
Ok I guess? You need professional help man

>>12911681
I see a crusted on bit of your overcooked egg there ya homo

>>12911699
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>>12911677
Carbon steel is dope too.

>>12911733
>picture for ants
I can't tell what you're trying to do here but it looks like either a cope or a seeth

>>12911733
Seek mental help please

>>12911746
Please bump the /an/ thread
I really wasn't kidding about collecting pics like that and I was hoping I could get a few fresh ones there.

>>12911746
Prolly just blind from the DuPont by products in your water
>>12911751
This is your best retort? Why do you hate the environment? Why do you love military-industrial cock shoved deep down your throat? Do you get off being throat punished by old money whores?

>>12911772

Thought that was an ass.

>>12911772
lmao I actually got that from your /an/ thread just now
literally all the images I have like that are from your thread

>>12911795
Yeah, I figured.
I love misleading thumbnails.

>>12911781
Nobody wants to talk or cares about whatever bullshit you are rambling about. How can you not get it? I guess people awkwardly ignoring you and plain mocking and clowning you isn't enough so I'm telling you outright just stop, its sad

>>12911836
that's a great one
I was trying to figure out where the rest of his body was as he leaned on the back of that chick's bike until I realized that chick was his knee
took me a bit

>>12911841
What's sad is how hard people go out of their way to remain ignorant. What's said is that you mother didn't have your same penchant for irrumatio.

>>12911868
>start rambling out of nowhere about random shit
>people ignore you
>REEE YOU ARE ALL SO IGNORANT!

>>12911885
Bro ancient aliens are real

>>12911885
>>12911889
MMMMMM *SLUUUURRRRP* MMMMMMMMM THATS RIGHT *GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK* FUCK MY THROAT DADDY DUPONT ILL CLEAN UP ALL YOUR MESSES

https://qz.com/1630348/dupont-and-3m-face-a-growing-list-of-water-contamination-lawsuits/amp/

>>12911919
Seek professional help

>>12911962
Seek literacy. Seek self respect. Seek actually giving a fuck you pathetic waste of resources mired in a pit of your own apathy and ignorance. They're losing court battles over this shit right now. But go ahead keep shilling products for a corporation that steals billions from taxpayers in government defense contracts, knowingly poisons our air and water, and then tries to steal billions from taxpayers again by making us foot the bill for clean up.
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/environment/2019/03/27/dupont-nj-chemours-over-pompton-lakes-nj-pollution-chambers-works-phil-murphy-nrd/3279022002/

>>12911984
>start rambling out of nowhere about random shit
>people ignore you
>REEE YOU ARE ALL SO IGNORANT!

>>12911990
>random
Whatever dude keep (you)ing me and I'll keep posting real facts so others can read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/magazine/the-lawyer-who-became-duponts-worst-nightmare.html

>>12911997
Seek help

Conclusion from this thread:
Cast iron makes you mentally ill

>>12911516
dunno, why are you such a paranoid faggot and why do you type like an idiot?

>>12912073
http://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/magazine/entry/teflons_toxic_legacy/

In light of the fact that despite overwhelming evidence presented to you that manufacture of this product is poisonous abd expensive you cling to the notion that there is nothing wrong with DuPont and their product Teflon I think it is you who should seek the help. Your obatinate denial is astonishing.

>>12912166
>pretending there are no other non-stick surfaces
It takes a really dumb fucking monkey to scaremonger this hard without a clue.

>>12912166
Dude nobody is clicking your links, reading your images or even care about whatever random shit you are sperging about. The fact that you don't realize this and keep posting links to 'own' people is fucking hilarious. I was previously joking but now I legit believe you might be heavily retarded. Please wear a helmet + diaper combo everywhere

>>12911316
>no cooking experience
start with non stick pans, if you're going to sear, use stainless steel with a full metal body.

Use oil when using the stainless steel pan and was pans immediately after you use them.

>>12911421
I use soap and a sponge, no problem.

>>12912237
>was pans
wash*

>>12912210
the crazy part is I THINK he's agreeing with me that "nonstick pans" aren't worth getting, but he's doing it in the most abrasive and retarded way possible

>>12912170
Dude, not even him, but you lost. Put away your sharpie, it just makes you look more stupid, ok?

>>12911316
Cast iron doesn't do well with acidic stuff but can be great for searing steak/meat and some other stuff. Some nice heavy stainless steel pots and pans are versatile, durable, clean easily, and don't require extra maintenance. Non-stick pans can be good for eggs especially since they will heat up a lot faster than cast iron and will be truly non-stick for eggs out of the box. I'd say to get mostly stainless steel pots and pans plus one non-stick pan and one cast-iron pan.

>>12911421
>frog poster too dumb to season a pan

Why am I not surprised

>>12911316
>takes forever to heat up
>handle gets hot so you have to use a towel/mitt
>can't cook many normal things in it (pasta sauce).
Probably great if you're going to live in a unabomber cabin away from civilization where you have to spear your own fish and cook over a campfire. Otherwise, if you have a modern kitchen with a modern stove and a kitchen sink, forgo the meme pan and just use normal cookware.

>>12912544
Nice projection

>>12912279
cringe dot jaypeg. if you wanna argue then make a fucking point, you manchild.

>>12911335
>hammydowns
hand-me-downs

>>12912735
I can't fucking believe someone took that bait.

>>12912696
>cooking tomato pasta sauce in a pan
It's not big enough. You need a pot or a slow cooker for that.

Can someone explain to me how department stores have generic-brand stainless steel cookware sets for like $60, but every other brand is $150+?

>>12913184
Taste the meat not the heat

Why the fuck is this a recurrent thread?
This is the only good board on this this fucked off shithole site... ffs

>>12913297
/ck/ hasn't been good since 2010

>>12911630
>eating smoked vegetable oil
yikes