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Is it true Americans don't salt pasta water?

>> No.12901495
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>>12901490

>> No.12901496

>>12901490
rent free

>> No.12901497

>>12901490
The best pasta water is the urine of a young female virgin

>> No.12901499

You can add salt at any point in the cooking process. This is why I stopped adding salt to my steak after I stopped adding pepper because it burned. If you aren't "brining" a food, salting doesn't matter when.

>> No.12901503

>>12901490
I like to use a lot of salty cheese on pasta so I usually don't. I guess I should do it for pasta salad and stuff like that though.

>> No.12901508

I’m American and I always do

>> No.12901519

>>12901490
I always do. t.american

>> No.12901521

>>12901503

Add too much parm reg or pecorino and the entire thing turns to a salt lick.

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>100g noodle, 10g salt and 1L water
You need salt to counter the osmosis pressure .
Without salt the salt inside the noodles, minerals and taste tend to wash out inside the unsalten water. Adding the right amount of salt/volume counter this effect and the noodle contains it original content
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmosis

Same reason we drink isotonic drinks and not destilled water or we loose minerals

>> No.12901532

>>12901521
Yeah, I kind of treat adding the cheese like seasoning anything else with salt, where I'll keep adding a bit and tasting it until I get the right amount.

>> No.12901563

>>12901490
No.

American is a big damn place, so Americans are not in any way uniform (just look at the Trump supporters versus the sane ones).

So, for sure some won't salt their pasta water same as some will add some oil to the cooking water or melt butter in before adding sauce. But by no means universal.

>> No.12901566

>>12901497
You're thinking of cheese making.

>>real thing, Weimar Germany
>>sales didn't flop when this was exposed

>> No.12901569

>>12901499
Salting steak is/can be quite different, since if you salt far enough ahead of time you get a sort of brining effec

>>Not assuming you don't know this, for the benefit of other anons

>> No.12901576

>>12901499
>>12901569
false. Salt before cooking helps draw out protein laden fluids from the meat, also affects the pH of the steaks surface, both of these improve the maillard reaction aka browning. Salting a steak absolutely can have an effect, though depending how you cook it you may not notice

>> No.12901595

>>12901576
How does saying that salting steak can be quite different from salting the water for cooking pasta make what I said 'false'?

>> No.12901602

>>12901576

I've cooked thousands of steaks and over time I gave up treating it beforehand. The fat with the proteins comes out in the fry or grill already. Salt doesn't matter at all. The oils you use or don't use matter more. You taste the butter/canola/peanut or its own fat more than anything else. Salt is meaningless until the end. Then add a rich salt like Celtic sea salt.

>> No.12901604

>>12901563
Is it possible for you fucking cock smoking faggots to discuss anything without bringing up fucking politics? Jesus fucking christ. Fucking obsessed fucking freaks.

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>>12901576

Oh, and also a pepper blend is key.

>> No.12901641

>>12901604
Just felt like using that reference, cos reason. Didn't mean to start a thing ;-)

>> No.12901650

>>12901524
This nigga know what he’s talking about

>> No.12901651

>>12901602
I don't agree.

I can't claim to have cooked nearly as many steaks so my opinion has little weight, but some top chefs don't either.... including some who aren't just parroting old practice (e.g. Ramsay) but actually pay attention to science and experiments (e.g. Blumenthal).

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>>12901604
Seethe

>> No.12901659

>>12901655
Of course he would, you morons are somehow lowering the quality of the site even further, a truly amazing feat.

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>>12901650
Sure, cooking is chemistry for normies

>> No.12901677

>>12901602
If you salt the steak and let it sit for like an hour or longer, it's almost like brining it. It does slightly tenderize the meat and help keep some of the juices in during cooking.

>> No.12902123

americans dont """pasta"""" anything

in american english its called NOODLES

>> No.12902258

>>12901524
>>12901674
can you be interesting and knowledgable without being a namefag kthxbai

>> No.12902266

>>12902123
>Spaghetti, fettuccine and other pasta aren't noodles
Brainlet.

>> No.12902424

>>12901563
Rent free lol

>> No.12902654

I wouldn't usually salt the water in a pasta dish because you usually end up using some kind of salty cheese or salty ham or something in there so it's much funner to introduce the saltiness and address any additional saltiness at the end of you dish.

It's not necessarily wrong to add salt your pasta water but it's bad practice.

>> No.12902773

Americans who don't know how to fucking cook don't salt their pasta water. Ones that aren't retarded do.

>> No.12902830

>>12901490
American here. We don't usually have to salt our pasta water, because we buy presalted water at the super market specifically for making pasta.

>> No.12902872

>>12902830

i don't want to bite but i can't tell if this is serious or not

>> No.12902885

>>12902872
>doesn't buy presalted water for boiling pasta
This is why your pasta is shit anon.

>> No.12902934

>>12902258
i dont get people like you, like i dont even aknowledge or even look at names anymore, i didnt notice he had a name. Why are you so obsessed?

>> No.12902941

>>12901524
First time I've heard a rational explanation for why to do this besides "because italians"

>> No.12902974

>>12901524
Fuck off you retarded faggot.

>> No.12903064

>>12902872>>12902830
>>12902885

Kekd

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>>12901490
I'm 'murican and I never salt pasta water. fight me.

>> No.12903881

>>12901566
I actually believe this. Lactobacillus cultures (the culture necessary for curing cheese) is found in Caucasian vaginas at the highest concentration of all humans. A healthy white girls vagina tastes like sour cream. I love sour cream.

>> No.12905619

>>12902941
The science behind why it's advisable is separate from why you *should* (because, standard Italian practice).

The thing about traditional pasta cooking is that the water isn't just salted, it's SALTY (so the pasta itself ends up salted). There's a saying in Italian that pasta water should be "as salty as the Mediterranean". If you've ever swum in the Med, that's pretty damned salty! Now that said, every aspect of cooking pasta (like most things) is going to vary somewhat across the country but in general Italian pasta should be al dente and salted.

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>>12902974
Once im gay im asking you for fun

>> No.12905693

>>12901490
Amerifat here. Who the fuck doesn't salt their pasta?

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>>12901524
saved for posterity

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Dumbasses throw oil in the water instead of salt. Your pasta will taste like your water so salt your water to taste, should taste like a light clear broth. If you aren't tasting your food you're also a dumbass.
>>12901499 this guy is also wrong salting earlier is always better. Avoid over salting things by salting every thing individually to a good level and tasting your food as you cook.
Also chemistryDude is wrong osmosis is the property for water to move across a membrane to an area with more solutes (aka "minerals") it has nothing to do with washing out "minerals" across a semipermeable membrane. Raw pasta has very little salt and no semipermeable membranes. It's a gluten structure. You add salt to make it taste good. You drink isotonic drinks because your sweat and urine wastes your body's salt. Salt is essential for life and if you want proof that chemdude is a dumbass count the purple particles, they're the same before and after, they didn't move across a membrane.
>>12901650
>>12902258
>>12902941
You are all stupid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt

>> No.12905737

>>12901499
>t. retard that flunked out of chemistry classes in high school

>> No.12905762

I do salt my pasta water but only because I'm a STEM major who only recently learned to cook. It made sense to add salt to lower the boiling point because I'm impatient and hate waiting for water to boil. I have never really considered it for taste specifically but I guess it does change the flavor of the noodles.

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>>12905728
>Also chemistryDude is wrong osmosis is the property for water
Sure, like the image shows. Its still the bast way to give the infos to a non /sci/ board. Call it Entropy, its the same shit. I get a new magnetic stirrer soon and than its time to make the ultimative test with a fine scale salt VS non-salt
>count the purple particles
Are you mad? This image shows a semi-permeable membrane and a noodle is a fucking noodle. If your autism is triggered im calling it noodle extraction :3

>> No.12905767

>>12905728
>chemistryDude is wrong
chemistryDude is always wrong, and
>>12902974
is the only appropriate response.

>> No.12905776

>>12901490
>americans don't use salt meme
This has always perplexed me. Growing up my mother would douse our food with it, probably to an unhealthy degree. Maybe I'm the anomaly that discovered things taste better when not over seasoned later in life instead of the other way around.