/ck/ - Food & Cooking

No.
Your liver exists to filter poisons, your lungs don't exist to inhale smoke.

>>12892916
Different

>>12892927
This. Also, with alcohol you don't have to worry about washing smells out of your clothes afterwards or making paranoid looks over your shoulder or out the window for cops.

>>12892916
weed after having some alcohol is patrician

>>12892916
They're both very different. I typically have a few drinks before getting high to get myself relaxed and blue pilled. Otherwise I just go out of my mind with thoughts and anxiety.

>people who drink
runs the full spectrum from classy fine spirits and wine among cultured elite to blue collar beer swillers who just want to have a good time
>people who smoke weed
"dude the universe is a hologram lmao"

>>12892940
Just makes you feel like a retard.

>>12892956
>people who drink
Alcoholics who shoplift fifths of Popov for their daily binge
>people who smoke weed
Some hackneyed stereotype that I saw in a movie

Only the abstinent and sober are truly enlightened.

>>12892978

>>12892916
Depends. Folk and I never drank in school but we were blazed all the time smoking weed and we knew where to get it. Now we're all either PhDs, medical doctors, engineers, you name it.

>>12892930
>Lives somewhere weed is illegal
Get a load of this guy

>>12892976
weed smokers are all garbage people

>>12892916
very likely healthier unless it acts as catalyst to a yet-undiscovered super aids liver failure mega stroke disease. I guess we'll see in the decades following legalisation. I like both but I have less of a problem with hitting that dank purple haze more often than sipping hine - no hangover, not carcinogenic (although some byproducts of combustion are, which is why I vape btw) and I find it tends to be more interesting in effects than alcohol.

>>12892927
edibles or vape it. as far as I'm aware there isn't a significant association between cannabis smoke inhalation and respiratory ailments but I wouldn't be surprised at all if excessive, chronic use results in undesirable side effects, excluding the standard psychological dependency and getting fat and inattentive from being stoned all day.

>>12892930
whatever you're smoking is too strong for you. the cops have better things to do than to abandon their patrol to arrest and process someone for smoking $3 worth of the softest illegal drug on the planet.

>>12892916
Alcohol makes me sick, weed just makes me tired and stupid
Neither are superior to the other, both are fun when I use, and then awful when I realize I'm wasting my life after I use

>>12892916
The stupid part of weed is morons and soccer mom types that think that once someone smokes a joint they become some kind of psycho killer.

>>12892976
,>people who take mind altering substances for recreation
Always trying to cope with the fact they wasted their best years in a drug and alcohol fueled haze instead of doing something fulfilling

>>12892989
How are you wasting your life?
Shit man you don't understand how much money friends and I made when smoking weed. We weren't selling it, just smoking it. I suspect that you wouldn't believe me if I told you.

>>12892993
That's an excuse that you people shove because you're morons and can't handle weed. Are you a soccer mom?

>>12892975
it's nice taking a break from being intelligent

>>12892997
I think that it's pretty funny when dorks such as you can't control yourselves so you blame weed, niggers, and jews for your problems. You can't blame your parents anymore so you deflect.

>>12892997
>how much money I made
Dumped into more weed and stoner snacks as tolerance gets higher and more and more weed needs to be smoked
>friends made
All of my friends are stoners and it's become tiring because I can tell that when we hang out all we're going to do is smoke, play video games/watch tv, and order a pizza

I've smoked weed for almost 10 years now and the last few years have just felt like a constant waste of time as weed has locked me out of jobs and relationships. It's not weed's fault I've wasted my life, but it makes me feel retarded and I can't quit smoking at the same time

>>12892985
My point is you're an idiot for cherry picking alcohol while stereotyping stoners. Let me tell you, alcoholics are the shittiest people on earth, 1000x times worse than whatever faggy little tiff you have with reddit stoners.

>>12893009
That's a lack of discipline, not weed.
Perhaps you lack self-control, you're blaming some plant on yourself.

>>12893014
I recognize that, but weed isn't helping me at all. I have to quit cold turkey or continue to smoke on and off until I'm dead in the ground

Weed's not the problem, weed culture and the people that use it are.

The biggest so called "stoner" by you twats maxed his SAT scores. Now stop whining like niggers that think they "deserve" to have their scores adjusted up.

>>12893000
No person "handles" weed, weed handles them. A lot of you potheads claim that weed is harmless, yet I've seen dozens of people myself who literally wasted their teenage and young adult years smoking weed and being depressed. And whenever they have to take their little "t-breaks" they always magically feel great for a time but they're constantly complaining about how they want to start smoking again soon even though all of the symptoms of smoking for so long are starting to disappear and they're actually feeling good again. Mind altering substances used for recreation are the greatest poison to mankind

>>12893018
Same with the faggots

>>12892930
>looking out your window for cops and worrying that your mom will smell weed on your favorite hoodie

I always underestimate the number of minors on this board

>>12893023
Keep thinking that, and reefer madness is your mother and father.

>>12893031
>still living with it's mom
What's next a transgener op for that fag?

Weed just makes me paranoid. Alcohol is pure comfy happiness, I can drink whenever, in any state of mind and I always feel better.
Hangovers are shit though.

>>12893041
If weed makes you paranoid you probably have a lot of underlying issues you arent dealing with. Booze masks problems

>>12892985
Thanks soccer mom. How about work a job once in your life? Or is that too compliated for you so you like an opera watching bitch casts dispursions on things that you know nothing about.
Maybe you're kids are dumb niggers, that's on you, not weed.

Blacks really are, dumber than a box of rocks.

>>12893045
Based pot smoker typing barely coherent retorts because someone insults his poor lifestyle choices

>>12893052
You still fail. How much money do you make and from how long? I'll be honest, I like smoking weed, it's fun, I also make about 200k USD per year?
So what's your problem or do like singing up to niggers so much that you have no concentration left?

>>12893052
Making money is fun
Smoking weed is fun
I don't a conflict there.

>>12893043
That's not exactly true. Some people are just prone to anxiety, and if they're on a drug that interferes with their lifelong intuitive coping skills it can snowball into a big problem.

>>12893063
>snowball

I think you mean snowflake.

It's soccer mom idiots that make shit up and blame their own faults on the evil weed from the devil's garden.
Those stupid bitches should mind their own business and piss off back to thieir minimum wage shit jobs.

>>12893066
Oh fuck off back to your fucking containment board

>>12893066
No. I meant snowball, snowflake would for some asshole that's mom is too scared to let loose in the world so needs weed laws because she can't control her own kids.

>>12892916
Weed is unironically superior, and I drink more than I smoke
>no hangover
>doesn't harm sleep
>doesn't harm digestion
>doesn't harm body (unless smoked with tabacco but you can vape it)
>can wake up and be refreshed like nothing happened
Only thing I would say it's inferior is that it can cause anxiety if you're unfamiliar with its effects or if you take too much. Then again too much alcohol makes you puke and feel like shit the whole day after so...

>>12892916
Cannabis butter can be rather difficult to cook with. The taste of cannabis so often varies in an unpredictable manner and the high is equally difficult to gauge. Im unsure about the other cannabis food products that I hear are available in the USA since im in the UK where its still very much illegal.

Alcohol on the other hand is tried and true. Wines in a pasta dish or ale in a pie and brandy in a dessert as natural as any ingredient.

For that reason alone I think alcohol is infact superior to weed. At least as far as /ck/ can be concerned.

>>12893074
Why do you need to cook with it?
That's faggy hipster west coast crap.

>>12892916
No, weed tastes like ass while alcohol has lots of different flavors.

>>12893057
Material wealth and drugs don't make anyone happy.
How does it feel being so attached to money and drugs that your identity and value is solely determined by how many credits you earn and how many leaves you smoke?

>>12892916
They're completely different things with individual pros and cons.

>ALCOHOL:

Pros: Good for social gatherings, to 'break the ice', to loosen moods etc. Tendency to work uplifting, relaxing.

Cons: Extremely hard toll on your body (often underestimated) to a point where it isn't really worth consuming. Destroys your brain over time. Hangover can be devastating. Disrupts your balance greatly. Numbs your mind, making you care less. Due to status of being 'legal' increased chance of affecting society negatively due to abuse/overuse.


>WEED:

Pros: Can greatly enhance group or single activities. Enhances taste of food immensely. Alters perception in interesting ways. Can evoke deep thought and facilitate new thinking patterns/creativity. Can affect your emotions both positively & negatively, but both scenarios usually lead to learning experiences about yourself and the world you live in if you process them right. And (let's be real...) video games are fucking awesome, like 20x as good!!

Cons: Can have negative health effects if smoked (vaping & eating eliminates this). Tendency to make people lethargic and lazy if overused. Due to 'illegal' status, paranoia can ensue (everyone hates me/is against me) which creates feelings of isolation. Can be expensive and/or dangerous to acquire due to status of being 'illegal' which forces you to consult black market. Can facilitate a need to maintain regular consumption to 'stay woke' when in reality it perpetuates the cycle of your mind being caught in an isolationist scheme.

>ERGO:
Both have their time and place. Both can be great. Neither should become a 'standard' in your life. Keep them for special occasions and enjoy them responsibly.

>>12893078
We are discussing which is superior in regards to cooking as this is /ck/ and not /b/. The high is dependant on the person and thus subjective and as far as im concerned therefore irrelevant to the debate. Due to that i've disregarded every comment in the thread that concerns posters personal preference and tried to approach the subject objectively. My conclusion as stated above is that alcohol is a better ingredient and therefore superior.

>>12893086
So don't smoke it, no soccer mom type is forcing it on you. It's also not an issue for you. Why do I do personally is some issue for you? I bet that you defend faggot homosexuals but weed, oh that's bad to you. How are you personally hurt by whether or not I smoke weed?

I love hearing these twats try to justify their hypocrasy.

Weed and psychs turned me slightly schizo and now I can't do them anymore. I stick to a moderate amount of beer and wine now.

>>12893091
ergo, you're a faggot and weed shouldn't be illegal in the first place. You've lost the plot but then you never saw it in the first place did you?
Give me an underlying reason except for taxes that smoking a plant that's available all over the planet should be illegal?

>>12893102
So make it illegal for everyone else?
That's sensible.

>>12893099
Not him but i'll point out that the anon never said you cant smoke it or that he is hurt by you smoking it. You are making wild assumptions. The anon only stated that he doesn't appreciate the taste whereas alcohol has many varieties. Personally i've experienced many strains of cannabis and know that it does have a wide variety in tastes. However you are behaving like a stereotypical stoner that many of us despise. You take any criticism of weed as a personal insult. And your spelling is atrocious. Unless you intend to apologise to that anon then don't (you) me back because I dont care what you have to say.

>>12893117
Bullshit, read the thread.

>>12893117
I wont repeat myself for the sake of you so look here >>12893128

>>12893105
I merely took the legal status of both substances into the equation bro. IMHO all drugs should be legalized (I don't believe in any political entity having the power to forbid something anyway) and the money spent for prosecution should be invested in education and safe practices. The main faction profiting from illegality of EVERYTHING is the state and the prison system. All those pigs, judges and prisons. I'm one of the good guys bro. Been weedin' since 1996.

>>12893110
He never said that. What's wrong with you?

>>12893133
Based on what jurisdiction?
I don't agree that "SALL" should be legalized, don't expand this further than weed, a simple plant that doen't need to be processed. This isn't layer cake.
Duran Duran - Ordinary World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIACCH20JU

12893128
12893130
This is why I hate stoners. As something of a cannabis connoisseur its people like this that give it a bad name and I wont dignify them with the (you)s they so pathetically seek.

>>12893099
Of course it affects other people because it makes you worse than useless and a burden on society just like the homos you hate

>>12893070
U get offended snowflake?

>>12893137
It's not as if there's not precident. Look at laws that prevent political types from receiving certain laws. I suspect the reasoning for that is so that they're not prevented from getting to Congress for instance to cast votes. No matter the reasoning I find that to be hyporcitical.
All laws should apply to everyone or when exceptions are made then it's retarded and pointless.

>>12893151
So it's OK though when it's taxed our of people's butts? I bet you don't mind when some nigger is spending that tax money.
Sin taxes and social engineering are retarded and stupid.

>>12893153
Fags don't seem to mind taking tax dollars for their social engineering.

>>12893147
>I don't agree that "SALL" should be legalized, don't expand this further than weed
Perhaps try to think a bit about what I said. The status of being 'illegal' hasn't really stopped anyone from doing so anyway. The only effect it has is that they get an unsafe/unclean product, have to fear prosecution/punishment and have nobody to educate/help them in need + it perpetuates a retarded drug war that will never end, causes endless victims, destroys countless lives along the way. Legalization of drugs would end all of this over night. Producers would have quality control. Consumers would have an infrastructure. People could talk openly about their experiences and problems. No more false hate & fear. Weed has been legal for ages in the Netherlands and they have vending machines for syringes and other crap. Yet they have very few drug related problems. We need to evolve, not retreat.

>>12893137
There's always something wrong with everyone, not identifying it is a sin.
The sad and lame part is cali shillary supporters, they think that they're perfect and their shit doesn't stink.
That's standard california bullshit.
We in NY love making fun of those twats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5OYtAauQRk
It's a Sin (2001 Remaster)

12893167
I never referred to tax policy or niggers in any of the posts i've made to this thread. Frankly there could scarcely be any two things I disapprove of more than niggers and taxes. It seems to me you want to be offended for the sake of being offended and harvesting (you)s and I will not play your ridiculous game.

>>12893021
What are you talking about and who are you talking to? Did you smoke too much

>>12893147
...oh, and great song btw. I didn't understand it as a kid, but when I grew up I realized it's depth and bittersweet beauty.

>>12893195
Good one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgdBhTl44Yc
Alphaville - Big In Japan

>>12893195

>>12893012
I'm not that guy, drinkers run the spectrum of good to terrible. weed smokers are all garbage people.

>>12893187
>>12893189
Please take this shit back to /pol/. This is off topic.

>>12893057
> from how long?
what?
fucking weed retard, learn to type.

>>12893203
Oh but constant shilling ads are OK.
How about this, PISS OFF, you're not a mod.

>>12893168
Same as the weedheads pushing their degeneracy on kids just like the homos you hate

>>12893209
That means so much from a crappy tard that can't cap properly.

>>12892916
Drinking
>go to bar
>talk shite with your buds
>maybe chat to strangers or acquaintances
>lots of variety in types and tastes
>easy to not go over the limit if you're not retarded
>even if you do go over the limit nobody really gives a shit since everyones done it once and alcohol is so ingrained in our culture

Smoking
>Sit in a friends house or some shit
>play video games or watch tv like some shut in faggots
>don't meet anyone new
>have completely stupid conversations that you think are enlightening but it's only because you're high
>smells like shit, hurts your throat to inhale
>can easily go from giddy to slothlike state with just a few pulls of a joint
>most people here think stoners are stupid so you look like a complete fool if anyone sees you baked

Alcohol is a much more social experience, weed is fucking stupid and for shut in dorks.

>>12893203
It's not me who brought it up. My initial contribution to the thread was purely rating cannabis and alcohol as cooking ingredients >>12893074 which is on topic for the thread and board. It's the other anon who got offended about criticism of cannabis use and brought up niggers, homosexuals and taxes and i'd prefer such discussions did remain on /pol/.

>>12892987
>edibles or vape it
>as far as I'm aware there isn't a significant association between cannabis smoke inhalation and respiratory ailments

Fedora tipping vape lords are finally getting their comeuppance

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/death-from-vaping-in-indiana-california-and-minnesota-more-people-died-at-least-450-illnesses-now-nationwide/

>>12892987
either you live in a radically blue state or you clearly know nothing about cops. there is no easier way for them to search and arrest someone than to smell reefer.

weed is like oxygen for niggers

>>12893216
Where do you live where people dont smoke pot at the bar? You depiction of weed sounds like something a religious parent told you

>>12892975
Exactly. I like knowing how the rest of the world thinks all day

>>12893216
Sounds like some sweet dreams.
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg
From Dame Annie Lennox

>>12893228
That's crack rocks
Niggers can't resist.

>>12893200
Man... Bowie was just the impersonation of IDGAF. Notice how he wears a suit with high arm holes and slim sleeves in the early 90s when the fashion world was carpet-bombed with boxy cuts. He was always ahead of the game. Style icon.

>>12893237
What's IDGAF?
Maybe I'm daft but I've never heard of IDGAF before.

>>12893072
>>no hangover
wrong
>>doesn't harm sleep
you dumb fucking idiot. Weed literally fucks up your REM cycle and long term stoners have trouble falling to sleep without it

>>12892916
I don't do either because I'm not a degenerate.

Annie Lennox was knighted so the female version is Dame instead of Sir.
Just remember that she's someones mum.

>>12892927

This.

Humans did not survive by living in caves with fire to keep them warm or by sleeping next to fires or maybe they did I don't know but drinking poison is fine.

>>12893231
Ireland
Of course you get people who smoke a joint when at a bar but I was comparing the difference between a drinking session and smoke session.

>>12893242
IDGAF = I don't give a fuck

>>12893233
Annie's solo stuff was nice too. Definitely an awesome woman. Great spirit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y25stK5ymlA

>>12893252
We survived by getting rid of niggers.

>>12893256
Ahh I don't give a fuck
I can deal with that, thanks.

>>12893233
>>12893248
>>12893256
>Annie Lennox
To me she is proof that beauty of the soul can be far greater than any worldly shell. She was never my type at all visually, but I admire her so much for the wonderful person she is + the courage to project that beauty outward.

>>12893256
Check out Gunsmoke
It's the theatre of the mind so to speak.

>>12893269
Yeah, she's a pretty cool lady.
Wonder Woman even?

>>12893218
smoking shitty black market mystery oil syringed into in a $1 dank vapes package from aliexpress isn't the same thing as vaping flowers using a specialised device. how many people are getting ill from smoking normal weed? none. don't smoke completely untested vape juice from a rando drug dealer and you're good. pic related.

>>12893221
it's completely illegal here, no medical unless you have a rare form of epilepsy and a $500/m private prescription. CBD shops get raided occasionally and businesses have been charged for distribution of class B drugs for selling legal CBD buds. the police has much better things to do than to actively and futilely enforce cannabis prohibition. have you tried not living in alabama or saudi arabia?

>>12893154
I'm allergic to stupid assholes

>>12893269
Eurythmics - Love is a stranger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5xk1-KEgds

You can tell stoners are in this thread when the topic derails into 100 directions like fashion and 80s music...

>>12893242
Hes saying Bowie didnt give a fuck (i dont give a fuck IDGAF)....even though literally everything Bowie did was a not-even-slightly veiled fashion statement and the definition of giving a fuck

https://youtu.be/HasaQvHCv4w

A true artist

>>12893221
>>12893277
>the police has much better things to do than to actively and futilely enforce cannabis prohibition
on a consumer level, anyway. my drug dealer got a suspended sentence for selling weed when he was caught and the police usually ignore cannabis use unless there are aggravating factors e.g. you're being a dick or blowing the smoke in their face.

>>12893285
Oh but you're the expert?

>>12893294
Depends on jurisdiction, really.
For example there's no reason for a NYC copper to enforce some federal law, he's not being paid by the feds for enforce silly shit.

Jurisdictions is something the fags in the UK and suck up EU and other places just will never understand.

>>12893269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG7I4oniOyA
Annie Lennox - Why

There's gotta be somthing better out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gi_IGuKx4U
Tina Turner - We Don't Need Another Hero (Thunderdome)

>>12893300
it depends on the jurisdiction, but what kind of cop outside a hardcore redneck state with too much money and too little actual crime cares about someone's hippie coffee enough to arrest them? the worst that can happen in western europe is that an overzealous police cadet will issue a warning and confiscate your drugs if you smoke in public but that's about it unless you're running a coffeeshop or dealing for a gang. either way, your chances of coming across a police officer while you smoke are very low if you're walking down the street with a blunt.

>>12893367
I wouldn't be so sure. Times have changed a lot.

I was once sitting with a friend at the edge of a forest in the middle of nowhere at 3 a.m. about to roll a joint when suddenly one of the parked cars across the road turned on. It drove towards us with full speed, turned headlights on us. 4 fat boomers got out with hand on their guns. They took me in handcuffs and on the station I had to strip naked. They took many photos of my face and body. Then they took me to a machine which read my finger prints and hand prints. Then they put a cotton stick in my mouth to take my DNA.

Similar things happened to friends over the years. A female friend of mine had the same thing happen to her and some female cop took gloves and looked into her vagina and shit like that. On my commute with public transport there isn't a week where I don't see people getting circled by a bunch of pigs and they search each of your pockets.

A few months ago I went to the gym when suddenly around the corner 2 pigs came out of nowhere. They shun a flashlight in my face, the other hand on their gun, and yelled at me. They took my gym bag and searched it.

Humans have been conditioned to accept and even love this 1984 society. It will get worse in the next 3 decades. You can't leave the house without a camera on you. We're heading in a horrible future.

>>12893432
>white people

lol
literally never had a problem with a piggu, maybe try not being a sissy faggot white kid.

>>12893432
>be american
>get sexually harassed by militarised police over a victimless crime
last time an officer saw me with a joint in public he smiled and went about his day. sure must be great in the land of the free.

>>12893432
>a cop jumped out of nowhere while me and my fag friends were doing drugs in the woods

Make better decisions

>>12893432
>break law and act like a submissive bitch even when you don't
>let cops strip you and search your shit without a warrant
>fuck the police fucking pigs

So pathetic lmao

>>12893432
are you black wtf

>>12893480
There is no such thing as a victimless crime only edgy kids who want to fuck others over due to selfishness

>>12893530
You going to fight the cops and get put down like a rabid dog?

>>12892916
yeah

>>12893245
>>>no hangover
>wrong
Who the hell even gets hangover from weed?

>>12892916
weed is like alcohol stick except they get hot too like me in bed

>>12893455
>>12893538
I'm brown-ish.

>>12893480
These things happened all in Western Europe, not US.

>>12893530
I'm not arguing, let alone fighting, with a bunch of psychopath thugs with firearms and a god-license.

no
alcohol is tasty, getting buzzed is just a happy side-effect
doing something just for the high is degenerate nigger behavior

>>12893548
you're right, fuck me for burning a plant that my man grows to pay rent. dae weed snorters are literally hitler gardening is organised crime don't let your children fall victim to the deadly reefer

>>12893582
>western europe
>guns
>cops lurking around in the woods at 3am
what hellhole of a country are you in?

>>12893586
>alcohol is tasty

You're either lying or drink sweet cocktails so mask the flavor. Anyone who tells you alcohol is tasty is trying to impress someone

no, weed is like alcohol for kids

>>12893592
Not an argument, but you are having a mental breakdown from being a drug addict and now a burden on society

>>12893618
you're underage
people's palates change over time, you'll eventually come to appreciate new foods and drinks when you're older
also how sugar-laiden your diet is will make the slight presence of sweetness in things like beer and spirits harder to detect, meaning all you're tasting is bitter.

>>12893630
>hilariously sheltered pearl clutcher or uninspired bait - you decide!
smoking jazz tobacco on the weekends = homeless psychotic crack addict xd

>>12893559
No. Just understand what the law is. Most cops are retards who know the law slightly better (at best) than the average citizen. Even if theyre in the right, dont be aggressive and just keep saying you dont give them permission to do anything. Theyll balk.

Unless youre actually breaking the law out in public, in which case fuck you for being dumb. Get your own place where you can do whatever you want

>>12893592
>what hellhole of a country are you in?
Naziland obviously. It had always been horror, but in the last 5 years or so, it has become unbearable. Pigs patrol the streets literally 24/7. They walk around big train stations with machine guns. It's very evident they actively 'hunting' for ethnic people. The cousin of a friend of mine was stopped at a major station on his way to work, dressed in suit & tie. They wanted to look into his briefcase, threatened him and forced him to unlock the laptop inside. In the end they claimed they were looking for some stolen laptop or some bullshit. Mind you he's a Paki. They gym story I told you >>12893432 probably wouldn't have happened if I were white either.

Press is full of crap too. They arrested some 15 year old kid at a street festival (for no reason at all) and rammed his head against the wall in front of his mother who came to pick him up. He was rushed to the hospital in hopes of saving what was left of his front teeth. The pig who did it was 'suspended'.

In another city, a 20 year old guy was caught with a joint and tried to run from the pigs. One of them literally shot him clean in the back of his head and he died instantly. The pig wasn't even suspended because he said 'he aimed for his leg' (as if that's any less horrible)

Krauts have and will always be nazis and the recent political current is scorching the remains of freedom fast. I'm just saving money and waiting for my parents to die, then I will leave this place. I heard you can apply for citizenship in certain countries when you buy real estate and lived there for a few years.

I think beer and weed compliment each other. I'm not much of a liquor drinker anymore so I don't get too wild.

>>12893671
>I heard you can apply for citizenship in certain countries when you buy real estate and lived there for a few years.
germany is part of the eu, you don't need citizenship or a visa to live and work across the union to my knowledge.

>>12893659
You are dealing and consuming illegal drugs and pretending to be a decent human being.

>>12893667
When cops arrest you they are allowed to search you you stupid government school retard

>>12893671
That's horrible that cops are arresting brown criminals they should only arrest white non criminals otherwise that's racist

>>12893683
definitely bait, nobody pasts the mental age of 13 equates legality with absolute morality. have fun being a horrible person for drinking under the age of 21.

>>12893680
Yes, but if I'm leaving anyway, why not go to some sunnier place with low living cost. I've been eyeing SEA. Somewhere by the sea to die a peaceful death.

>>12893691
Literally none of the people I've mentioned committed any crimes. They were kidnapped, humiliated, violated and killed for their lifestyle and/or for their genetic heritage.

>>12893686
The point is not to get arrested by
1. Not doing illegal shit in public and
2. Understanding the 4th Amendment along with your state laws

If your big complaint is "cops r mean after i get thrown in jail" you need different hobbies

>>12892993
I smoke weed occassionally since 3 years, am 24 now, about to finish my masters in physics and did things I wanted to do.

I bet you never met a real person who is the typical weed smoker like in your head. Kys

>>12893715
Youve smoked weed since you were 3 years old? No wonder youre here

>>12893683
The term 'illegal' is merely an opinion issued at gunpoint, same as most 'laws'. Opinions forced upon you by a political faction with a monopoly on violence. In a scenario where a person is prosecuted and punished for their life choices by an army of violent thugs, who is the real immoral agent?

Read 'the value of truth' & 'the death of god' by nietzsche to get a basic understanding of human societal cognition and then re-evaluate your views on this matter.

A 'government' is a merchant of death. The 'police' is its executive. People who sold their souls for comfort and power. All weapons have ever done is to enable cowards and weaklings, and the 'police' is the best example of this.

>>12893715
I am not anti weed, I have smoked like 10 times in my life, but all weed smokers that I know, except 1, are complete failures. Although maybe they already were failures before weed.

>>12893743
Feel free to expatriate. You can espouse any value or philosophy you want. As long as you choose to live in a nation with laws and standards youre engaging in a social contract.

Feel free to change things, or leave. I get the feeling you dont have the balls to do either

>>12893758
>Although maybe they already were failures before weed
This is in 90% of all addictions the case. People who become failures because of drugs probably were failures before and very weak minded. Especially if you become a failure from fucking weed. Heroin might be another thing though.

you dudes do understand that you can choose to do both, or neither?

>>12893758
This is an outlier, but Joe Rogan is probably the most successful person Ive ever seen. Smokes, does shrooms, DMT, reflects in a deprivation tank, has a beautiful wife and kids, chickens and a garden, tons of hobbies, a career he loves, no boss, tons of free time, lots of money, employees, friends.

>>12893759
>As long as you choose to live in a nation with laws and standards youre engaging in a social contract.
Fallacy. Nobody ever got to chose. We are born into political entities which inherit our lives regardless of our will. Theoretically you chose to die, yes. But that's a very grotesque prospect.

>>12892978
Straight edge is best, CM punk is my Lord

>>12893758
>maybe they already were failures before weed
Bingo. It's the same with alc. The people who turn into alcoholics and fuck up their lives had the tendency to do so anyway. Humans seek shelter in escapism of any sort because we've built such a horrible society.

>>12892916
lsd

>>12893759
>think a law is unjust and unnecessary? move. we have to do and think as the ruling party tells us.
bootlicker logic. the civil rights movement would have had a field day with you.

>>12893023
>implying mankind hasn't been using mind altering substances recreationally for millions of years
it only became a problem in the past couple centuries, wonder why that could be? surely couldn't have anything to do with the massively destructive economic system we've all adopted, nah it's those damn filthy stoners' fault

>>12893894
The civil Rights act has devastated freedom you commie asshole

>>12893853
Yeah you literally do choose. There are roughly 200 other countries you can move to if their rules are more in-line with your own. There are even islands and remote regions where you can literally do whatever you want.

Its not a fallacy of any sort, youre just too lazy to either change the system or leave. Your 9th grade "man...its just like the government is like evil you know?" doctrine is a lot easier to talk shit about vs actually leaving.

Admit you like roads and safety. Clean water and government inspected food. Infastructure with internet and tv. You can lie to me, but not to yourself. Youre too much of a bitch to leave the system you hate (i.e. secretly love) even though you have options.

>>12893958

>Admit you like roads and safety. Clean water and government inspected food. Infastructure with internet and tv.

Of course but I shouldn't have to sacrifice to get those things since they should've free under communism. Everything is free with no rules. Get it?

>>12893894
Interesting that you take
>feel free to change things or leave
and turn that into
>we have to do and think as the ruling party tells us.

Youre a mental gymnastics Olympian. What do you propose thats contrary to what I said? Stay and DONT change things?

>>12892927
Your liver isn't specifically there for alcohol and many people damage their liver by drinking too much. The best thing for your liver is to never drink.
However the human nervous system does have receptors that are only activated by cannabinoids. So Allah wanted us to blaze

>>12893958
You're obviously a small minded idiot. Have you even understood my post? I said:
>Theoretically you chose to die
And you're even mirroring this sentiment, proving you have very well understood, but chose to repeat your stupid bullshit. Nobody could survive without, respectively live a worthwhile life without some form of supportive infrastructure. Most animals can't even do that. Humans are communal creatures. Save your horrible fascist idiocy for the next round of donuts with your pig friends.

>>12893971
You honestly think infrastructure would exist if there weren't rules?

>>12893866
Alcoholism is not even close to weed addiction. Stoners can be lazy bums but alcoholics ruin lives. It's real addiction, not a psychological addiction. You can't just be like "meh i'm not drinking.

Countless people lose battles with alcohol addictions. They fucking die or are incarcerated forever because of some dumb shit they did while plastered. No one dies of being a stoner and most of them grow up eventually.

>>12894018
Youre just saying things without making a point.

My original point was, and is, if you dont like your current situation....change it or leave. You havent said anything contrary to that other than
>see my point?
and some other rambling 10th grade faux-philosophical non sequiturs.

And yeah I did understand your post - it was just a dumb post.

>>12892930
you have to be 18 to post here