/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12843880
None. Humans are not supposed to eat grain.

>giving up either bread or rice

>>12843890
Hiving up literal poisons. Sounds pretty smart to me.

>>12843900
>hiving up
I don't know what that means, but bread and rice aren't poisonous when taken orally.

>>12843905
>not knowing to shove rice or bread up ur ass

>>12843905
Goving*
Yes they are. Theu contain anti nutrients. Grains do not want to be eaten, that's their only line of defende.

>>12843911
I have some pretty solid evidence that not eating grains will increase the likelihood of having a stroke.

>>12843880
I love both a ton, but I'd have to go with bread

>>12843900
>poison
>my grandpa is 87 years old and eats a donut every day

lol, okay

>>12843917
No you don't.
>>12843921
If he eats animals then there's nothing to brag about. He probably won't live up to 100 while raw carnivores can live far longer than that.

If giving up bread means giving up pizza, then fuck that.

>Carbs bad
Fuck off Ketocel

>>12843880
both are shit but white rice has less antinutrients

>bread
well which one, wonderbread or whole-grain?

>>12843880
>Which carb is better for you, rice or bread?
For a normal person, wheat is far superior to rice in every way. more protein, more nutrition, more fiber, better tasting, more versatile, gluten is awesome.

>>12843953
>pizza
bread covered in fatty cheese is extremely unhealthy.
Bread is very rich by itself. It is pure calories, do not put cheese on bread! Enjoy bread without fat for best results.

>>12843880
Rice for me.

>>12844251
I remember being brainwashed in the Atkins diet community into believing all of that shit to an extreme degree. It is like a religion.

>>12843921
He will die if he keeps that up

>>12843911
>Theu contain anti nutrients. Grains do not want to be eaten, that's their only line of defende.
This is true but you're also oversimplifying it. They don't want to be eaten by things that will completely destroy them without helping them propogate. It's why capsaicin is also used as a form of defense against pests, but it doesn't affect birds who spread the seeds around. We've figured out ways to reduce phytic acid, but some studies also show it being an antioxidant and having some benefits too. It's also not really much of an issue unless your diet is nothing but grain.

>>12844344
You can't reduce phytic acid and you cannot get any antioxidants from plants.

>>12843911
When do you retards find out tho that modern bread has nothing in common witht he sourdough(which elminates anti nutrients and a lot of gluten as well) which was used a hundred years back before industrial bread.
Man i know i was once as dumb as you but it was at a different time a good 3-4 years back and didnt really frequent sites about this. How come you are that much more retarded than me?

>>12844344
>It's also not really much of an issue unless your diet is nothing but grain.
It is because anti nutrients found in plants will prevent the absorption of nutrients from animal foods. There's absolutely no reason to eat them. Grains are not human food.

>>12844346
>>>12844344
>You can't reduce phytic acid and you cannot get any antioxidants from plants.
Wrong. What is sourdough? Retarded motherfucker
I mean even sprouting works. Why do dumb low iq uninformed pieces of shit like you talk about subjects they dont know shot about and make me get=£,% a goddamn strole fucking nigger

>>12843880
The answer is whole grains are best. So that's it really you can have a variety of whole grains

>>12844355
Calm down brownie. Show me any proof that sourdough reduces anti nutrients?

>>12844362
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11368651

Just to mention you could sprout on top of that but yeah "you cant remove snti nutrients" for sure

This is why religions are so popular and prominent. All you need is a convincing preacher and swathes of people will believe the teachings without question. Repeat 'grains are poison' enough times and it becomes irrefutable truth to these people.

>>12844362
You know why im so offended? Because probably you are a cultureless american bitch and i come feom germany a country with actual culture which includes baking(carbs) fuck you you subhuman mongrel

>>12844376
I am Latvian. How are the immigrants treating you by the way? Why did you get so offended you disgusting Turk? You have nothing to do with Germany's culture. Also ancient Germans ate shit ton of meat. That's why they were so tall while you are a little brown manlet shit.
Disgusting vegan cuck.

>>12844384
Oh haha yes latvian are famous for... uhmmm whatever dumb bitch atleast this is evolution in action fucking monkey

>>12844307
You sound like a woman.

>>12844389
Your existence is embarrassing ancient Germans. (Again you're most likely Turk living in Germany, but let's pretend you're not)
Your ancestors ate raw meat and you cannot even kill an animal to feed yourself. Instead you have to rely for your government to feed you a slave diet.

>>12844384
Also im not vegan obviously since im german but im not a retard sorry. Poles or lithuanians should take you maybe then you will cvilize

>>12844407
Sorry, you are a retard. No human with properly working brain would put grains in his mouth know how toxic they are.

>>12844403
Man dont talk about germans like you know anything swamp nigger. We have a rich culture meats beer(plants) and bakery(plants) what the fuck are you trying to deny me fucking 66% of my own fucking culture and act like you fucking need to exlpain it to me? Fuck you meat heads are as retarded as vegans

>>12843911
Cattle do not want to be eaten either

>>12843930

frequents a cooking board and tells people not to cook. take your religion back to /fit/

>>12844420
Cattle can run away.
>>12844415
The things you mentioned came after the great degeneration. You think Ancient Europeans had time to think about alcohol and other degeneracy while they had to survive cold winters. Only raw animal fat will warm you up in winter.

>>12844424
Pagans drank alcohol as well so did the romans. How far you wanna go back? Good chance they did even shrooms before that you dumb curd.

>>12843880
rice for me

i think its entirely cultural based
as an asian i think i will die if i didnt have rice in some form for a whole week or longer, bread doesnt scratch the same itch

a westerner would probably feel very at home with bread/potato and cold meats all the time

>>12843900
>>12843911
>>12843930

this dude is in this retard's cult. pic related. he also believes in flat earth. he's just a contrarian. if you've ever talked to a flat earther, that's what you're dealing with. it's honestly best just to ignore him. he doesn't want to learn, he wants to "teach". he will never change his mind. it's pointless.

>>12844429
Pagans were eating grains except for kings of course. They knew what's going on. No proof they did shrooms. Many mushrooms are toxic and all of them are undigestable.

Potatoes.

>>12844424
>Cattle can run away.
what's your point
beef contains antinutrients as well, did you know that?
also modern crops have less antinutrients because of domestication and GMO's could potentially entirely eliminate them

>>12844447
What anti nutrients are in animals?

>>12844444
Potato confirmed for top carb.

>>12844442
Yeah no proof. I guess shamans were just legit seeing things haha. You wont make it ever. You are as bluepilled as a lot of other eastern europeans. Its for different a reason (your national pride against germany) but its the same outcome (blue pill). Wake me up when you easterners get over your inferiority complex and we can talk
t. Half polish

>>12844424
>You think Ancient Europeans had time to think about alcohol and other degeneracy while they had to survive cold winters.
winter isn't all year long and they'd probably laugh at you for being afraid of beer

>>12844464
If you're half Polish why are you bragging about German culture?
Shamans were mentally ill just like you are and I'm not denying that they used drugs because all depressed grain eating losers do.

>>12844468
They would certainly laugh at you for not being able to kill a deer and drink it's blood.

>>12844452
lectin, uric acid, avidin, are in meat, dairy, and eggs

not like antinutrients matter at all for anything anyways unless you are seriously deficient in something

>>12844471
I have a lot of german genes. I dont need to feel insecure like the rest of you. What is even the big difference between german and polish food? They are very similiar cultures even polish sticks out as beeing grammar heavy in slavic languages just as german is. A lot of the border people are mixed or sorb.

>>12844324
pretty sure he'll die if he doesn't.

>>12844266
On top of that
How long has it fermented before cooking?
Rye or wheat?
Sugar for taste, or preservation?
What are you even going to eat alongside it? If its fucking Craft shingles you might as well kill yourself.

Ironically... neither. If you had to choose one and only one carb source, you'd be best with either beans or sweet potatoes. That being said, don't cave to carnivore/ketofags. The healthiest diets in the world get 45-55% of their calories from carbohydrates. Just keep it minimally processed (as in, nobody is gonna do well on nothing but shitty white bread).