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Nothing until next week, I'm going to wine country.

Once I get back however....

What are some good whiskeys for a complete whiskey noob, trying to transition from mostly beers to some more hard alcohol.

I've been sober for over a month

>>12715955
buffalo trace, knob creek, eagle rare and wild turkey.

>>12715955
>What are some good whiskeys for a complete whiskey noob, trying to transition from mostly beers to some more hard alcohol.

I'd recommend Four Roses or Maker's Mark. They're both bourbons (which is still a whiskey, just like Scotch, Irish whiskey, Tennessee whiskey, etc.), so they're made, primarily, from corn, making them a little sweeter. Four Roses has a slightly lower ABV than most whiskeys and, while it's still strong, that's enough to take away some of the initial bite. Maker's Mark uses a fair amount of wheat in their recipe and that results in a slightly smoother product, as well. Both are readily available and affordable.

>>12715955
>>12716136
Can't tell if bait or retarded.

>>12715955
famous grouse

It's moveout day at my apartment and I found a half-full jug of tequila in the dumpster
So probably that once I get off work

>>12715955
Anything but Bourbon which tastes like corn juice and ethanol

Picked these up yesterday.

>>12715925
its probably pretty good stuff but that label is atrocious. I like to keep it local for the most part, pic related. GLD makes some of the best spirits I've ever had.

Picked up a bottle of Knob Creek 100 last night, never had it prior

>>12716571
Kek. TWE wanted to do an elements of the periodic table theme, but for the Islay whisky region.
>mfw 50cl bottles
Reeee.
>>12716585
Opened it yet?

>>12716969
Cracked it open last night, want to enjoy it slowly. The flavor is pretty good, very smooth for a 100 proof imo

>>12716561
Based bedposter. You always buy the good stuff

>>12716136

>He thinks Tennessee whisky is an actual classification and not just a legal stipulation JD paid the gubberment to enforce so they could indirectly run other Tennessee distilleries out of business

WHISKEY

>>12715955
Go to a bar and try everything.
You'll want to try a cheap Bourbon, a rye whiskey, a Speyside Scotch, an Islay scotch (with you will either love or hate) and something finished in a sherry barrel.
If you buy a bottle and finish it every month or two you'll quit before finding anything you like.

>>12715925
I finally managed to try some Balvenie 14 and haven't enjoyed a scotch this much in a while. I hate that this costs so much for a bottle where I am but I may consider it one day

>>12717519
>bedposter
>always buy the good stuff
Welp. I do spend way too much time in bed, and half the time what I buy is pretty random. I actually had a couple single barrel bourbons in mind which they didn't have, but the Four Roses was on sale as a staff pic and I knew it was a smart buy, and the George Dickel I honestly bought because the last guy who made a whiskey thread posted it. I looked it up and read reviews and tasting notes in the store, and am actually really happy with the purchase; it's a really decent budget whiskey and I'd honestly buy it again over Jack any day of the week. I haven't tried the vodka yet, and I usually just buy Seagram's for everyday drinking, but it was also a staff pic and was on sale for cheaper so I thought I'd give it a try, however nauseating the USA! USA! crap on the label is.

I know this isn't a beer thread, but I saw this Stone and had to give it a try. Pic related is the last time I tried a POG beer, and I just had to buy it when I saw it in the store. I literally went to Hanalei School, played on the Hanalei pier as a child (and pretty much learned how to swim in Hanalei Bay), loved POG, played POGs, and love IPAs... Well it was shit. Stone is kind of hit or miss on their experimental stuff, but a POG Berliner Weisse already sounds better than a fruit IPA. Maybe I'll report back later with my impressions, if anyone cares.

>>12717714
the single-barrel sherry cask is no joke twice as good and only modestly more expensive

>>12716561
>he spent more than $10 per 1.75 L on vodka

>>12715925
dizzamn that's a strong whiskey. Can you even taste it?

>>12715955
Bourbon: Evan Williams Black Label for a "standard" bourbon, Maker's Mark for a wheated bourbon, Old Grand-Dad, Old Grand-Dad Bottled in Bond or Old Grand-Dad 114 (preferably the latter) for a high-rye bourbon.
Scotch: Glenlivet 12, Glenfiddich 12 or Glenmorangie The Original for something light and delicate. Laphroaig 10 or Ardbeg 10 for something peaty. Macallan 12 for something sherried.
These are all super-representative of their respective styles as well as inexpensive; Macallan 12 is the most expensive bottle here at ~$55.

>>12717860
I've moved around quite a bit, and try all the vodkas. It's pretty rare to find a drinkable handle at $10. The only thing near me now at that price point is TJ's Vodka of the Gods, which I just don't like. I usually buy Seagram's for ~$13, and those extra three bucks are nothing for the difference in quality.

>>12717778
Actually not bad. If you're a fan of POG I'd recommend giving it a try.

>>12717824
Noted, thanks fren

>>12717824
I haven't had the sherry cask one but I don't doubt this. The rum barrel finishing doesn't really add much flavor to the Carribbean Cask release.

>>12717900
Your worldview would be completely flipped on its head by a proper double blind vodka test involving expensive vodkas and $10 plastic handles.

>>12718312
I can't tell you how many times I've heard this. I get more than half of my daily caloric intake from vodka, and spend all my time not drinking in a kitchen where I taste things for a living. Believe me, I can tell the difference between vodkas (which doesn't mean that more expensive necessarily means better tasting).

>>12715925
What's going on crew?

>>12718319
>still dark out
>nothin else to do

what are some other alcohol kinos on youtube or elsewhere
this shit touches some weird spot in my subconscious, sipping on some bourbon as we speak

>>12718317
We can all tell the difference. The question is why would I spend more money chasing the goal of water flavoured when I already have water?

>>12718341
You seem confused.

>>12718317
I can't tell you how many times I've heard this from vodka snobs as well as audiophiles.
I can't tell you how many times I've made vodka snobs and audiophiles change their minds with proper double blind testing.

>>12718370
>vodka snobs as well as audiophiles
That's a retarded comparison. "Vodka snobs" are alcoholics looking for the cheapest way to get drunk that's palatable enough to drink all day and wont give them a hangover whereas audiophiles buy 4 figure headphones/preamp so they can hear what the producer heard at the mixing board.

>>12715925
I have some balvenie carribean cask but I can't bring myself to drink it

i'm on keto and i just found out I can drink scotch though, so I might have some in spite of myself.

>>12718389
why even buy nice booze if you're just gonna look at it

>>12718392
that's a good perspective anon thank you I'll have some after I walk my doggie

can I ask you guys something, I bought the highest rated tulip glasses on amazon, they're supposed to be "the" brand, I can't remember which brand. But they feel so thin it's like you could easily break them while washing them. Can you guys recommend a good tulip glass that's not made of uberthin chink level glass

>>12718351
Not even slightly

>>12718405
Glencairn is the big name.
But don't do it. There are three things that make a glass easy to break; a stem, an opening narrower than the base, and a thin lip. All three are present in tasting glasses. Buy Chinese and buy thrice, because your crystal glass isn't lasting much longer.

>>12718328
did u say alcohol kinos

https://www.youtube.com/user/ralfystuff

>>12718443
glencairn is the ones i have. fucking shite thinness. honestly afraid to use them because i've been cut by glass before and it is noooot pleasant

>>12718451
just get a nice thick regular-ass glass

the tulips are nice for nosing but there's not a huge difference in profiles and you definitely don't need them unless you're a professional whiskey reviewer

>>12718455
meh. will probably just start drinking out of these.

ralph lauren "glenplaid" double old fashioned glasses i bought at homegoods. have a set of highballs too. fucking love them and theyre built like tanks.

i just wanted to be faggy while drinking my expensive scotch is all.

>>12718460
I literally drink out of shot glasses. I've thrown one at a brick wall once and it didn't break. Shot glasses OP. Tumblers like those end up with 3mm of liquid in them for a single drink.

>>12718469
>Tumblers like those end up with 3mm of liquid in them for a single drink.

cool, ez ethanol burnoff

>>12717862
i haven't opened it yet lad.

>>12718405
Disregard highest rated, just look for Glencairn glasses that are thicker and more durable than the usual ones. I like my current set but I want to find the large and wider ones that they have at some bars.

>>12717680
>just put a soi face next to cruise-control text of thing I don't like! That'll show em!

>>12715955
Johnnie walker or crown, jack Daniels if you like to mix with coke, Kirkland whiskey if you like a large quantity of decent quality for cheap.

>>12720390
>Kirkland whiskey if you like a large quantity of decent quality for cheap.
Costco sometimes has $17 handles of Dewar's, an excellent scotch for mixing.

Islay is the the only whisky.

>>12720690

Sorry I meant to post. I'm a highland whoore too.

>>12720390
>Johnnie walker, Jack Daniels, crown
I can't imagine a worse selection of whiskies short of that meme black booster picture.

>>12720390
I've never actually tried Johnnie Walker, but I do find it hilarious how terrible its slogan is. "Keep walking"? What, as in don't settle for this stuff? C'mon, man.

>>12715925
>Whisky/Whiskey
which one is it?

>>12720390
This list is fucky

>>12718389
The hangovers on keto can get pretty bad bro. I only drank a couple times while on keto but the one time I got a solid buzz I was hungover for ~48 hours

Anybody wanna give me a quick rundown on some worthy Irish whiskey?
From the ones Ive had (nothing expensive or noteworthy, except maybe Connemara peated) felt fairly...bland? Not the traditional in-your-face of a scotch, but a pleasant experience anyway. Are the higher tiers like Green Spot, Red Spot, RedBreast worth the money?

>>12721450
Green Spot is probably my favorite and I hear a lot of good things about Redbreast 12 cask strength.

for me, it's the curious sarsaparilla whisky. this shit is $15 and i can drink it like water. it also tastes really good with coke zero :)

>>12715925
>drinking Peeeee

>>12717900
would smash second from left

>>12721450
So far I have enjoyed most Redbreast 12 Cask Strength, Powers John's Lane, and the Tyrconnell 10 year Madeira Finish. Redbreast 21 is pretty crazy too, very intense tropical fruit aroma and palate. Bushmills 21 had that tropical fruit and fruity black tea kinda thing going on, too. Irish whiskey doesn't get proper respect

>>12718405
>tulip glasses
Glencairn Copita?
just buy a few and wash them carefully

>>12721810
Good honestly. As soon as it gets put in the light like what happened with Japanese whisky, the prices will explode.

>>12715955
honestly just buy the cheapest proper single malt you can find and see if you like the flavor of it.

>>12722012
Probably Glen Moray. That's a trap. Glen Moray is perhaps the worst spey side and they know it. Which is why you should buy their cheap 15 year old over everyone else's 10-12 y/o offerings.

>>12715955
Canadian Club

>>12718455
>>12718460
Shot glasses are acceptable. The legit glencairn glasses are supposed to be real durable though. Some sort of German engineering

>>12718460
Also tumblrs are shite and make non-Islay whiskies smell and taste literally the same
>>12718455 dont know how this guy manages

>>12723125
I picked up some glancairn glasses on a whim last month and honestly with I'd gotten something with a legit stem.

Get some GlenNippleCunt. Or save yourself all this bullshit and get Lagavulin Distillers Edition and you'll never buy the hot garbage you buy ever.

>>12715925
LTD, it's pretty cheap and pretty terrible. I just drink it straight

>>12723180
This stuff really is amazing, I got the 1L in airport duty free and definitely in my top 5 ever

latest purchase.

This bottle, the first whiskey that really made whiskey "click" for me

>>12725071
Glen Scotia is pretty based and also not a complete ripoff either. The 15 year was one of the best whiskies for the price I've had in a while

>>12725401
on my to-buy list t b h lad.

What's the general consensus on Bookers? I could have bought this in the airport but passed and got Lagavulin Distillers edition instead

>>12715955
You're probably not listening anymore but
>>12716136 is retarded
Standard 4 Rose's and makers mark are not great especially for the price.

I might get crucified for this but makers 46 and 4 roses small batch are actually fairly decent but overpriced.

You really cant go wrong with a good buffalo trace though. I would recommend that or the 46 if money is no object to you and ya just want a smooth simple burbon.

I'm going to be buying some whiskey when I get off work.

My go to is Buffalo Trace what else should I try in the $20-30 that isn't entry level.

>>12725617
Eagle Rare

>>12725617
Rittenhouse has no reason to be as good as it is for the price. I'd say it's even better than Whistlepig which is like 4x the price

>>12725596
I don't know but cask strength bourbon is great, I assume it would just be super knob creek

>>12715925
quick rundown on PE whisky for those not in the know
>pretty noice distillery with some seriously able heads back in the day
>closes down
prices skyrocket for the good/rare stuff - what was 50 quid back in the day is ten times that now
most of what is sold as PE these days is their third rate gear / fake, although I have been lucky enough to try a few drams from old bottles in the hebrides - sexy stuff
>>12715955
I'd say try one of each of the three big whisky styles - scotch (glenfiddich), irish (jamesons), and bourbon (Maker's) (none of these are outstanding, but at least you learn what you like ey)
>>12720690
>>12720696
ehe
seems like a lot of the entry tiers from mainstream distillers

I'm drinking some arran 18 and finishing off the umpteenth Nikka ftb

>>12726130
>Nikka ftb
>finally find a bottle of this available for mail order where I live
>it's $199

>>12726130
I paid £185 for that Port Ellen bottle. Worth it t b h, considering the distillery will re-open next year or 2021.

a 200ml bottle of this i bought 5 years ago in Japan for like 2000 yen.

>>12715955
I'd say try more lighter bourbon cask forward single malts like Glenfiddich 12 or if you're okay with more ABV Aultmore 12 or Craigellachie 13.
If you want something sweeter I'd look at an approachable bourbon whiskey like Buffalo Trace or Knob Creek.

>>12726130
>most of what is sold as PE these days is their third rate gear / fake
You just need to know which bottlers to buy from but most stuff at retail from Diageo and independents like Signatory, Douglas Laing, Cadenhead's, etc. are mostly legit. The older stock PE is really fucking good, especially the 35 year special release. I fucking love Port Ellen but for the dollar Brora is a lot better by the dram.

>>12725976
>>12725711
Sounds good gonna go in and buy both. I typically like the sweeter bourbons so not sure if I'll like the rye but I'll try it.

Thanks bros

>>12723141
Just get a copita to feel like a fancy lad

>>12727918
Those tend to be a little on the small side for my taste.

>>12727929
this prick likes them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spvpK1S2J7c

This kills the whiskeyboo

>>12725596
it's good, but a bit on the expensive side.
i think all of the Beam bourbons have a similar taste - some are better than others, but to me they all have a similar taste.
buy a bottle and see what you think if you can afford it without it being a hardship.
i don't think you're really missing out, but you might find that you love it.
and this is the advice i'd give about any whiskey that you're attracted to. buy it and try it. most of the opinions here are not my kind of opinions and a large portion of them are just trolls anyway

cheers anon

I'm drinking Canadian Club and Coke poured over a mountain of ice. Got most of a case of Modelo left too. Gonna be a good Saturday, boys

>>12728881
And the patterson swirl and throw is mandatory

>>12728896
nothing wrong with drinking to get drunk

>>12729648
That's why bottom shelf swill exists

>>12715925
>Peeeee
Did it come from a gamer girl?

>>12729767
no. were there gamer girls in 2011?

Jameson right now. Nothing fancy

>>12730404
same, i don't even drink and this is p.good.

>>12730404
>>12730426
Jameson is definelty my favorite cheaper Irish whiskey. Good on its own or mixed

>>12715955
Suntory Toki is a good start

Picked some of this up while I was in Vermont. Pretty good stuff.

>>12715925
im drinking my first rye moonshine that I made several months ago. its shockingly smooth given its age and being only my second attempt at distilling. I way, way overdid it on the toasted woodchips though.

>>12730742
Jap whiskies are so fucking overpriced right now it's silly.

At what prices and which labels are JP whiskies worth buying?

>>12729648
https://youtu.be/4QN1FbG9b

Mfw

>>12715925
almost through a bottle of monkey shoulder
reminds me of better times

>>12732592
JP? As in J.P. Wiser? The 18.

>>12732660
Jp as in 日本

>>12732592
I don't know if there are any if you're in the U.S. Even shit-tier Jap whisky is terribly overpriced right now at fucking Costco, which is typically the cheapest liquor store in America.

Scored a bottle of this

>>12733270
Nikka From The Barrel. That's it.
>>12733542
Based.

J&B, straight -- and a corona

>>12733542
RIDIN THAT TRAIN, HIGH ON COCAINE

CASEY JONES YA BETTA WATCH YO SPEED

>>12733641
Nice

Where my Jackson Hole anons at

>>12729647
it's not a bad idea, but i'd just use some water

I bought some old forester 100 and its pretty nice for the price I got it for, but it doesn't taste similar to woodford reserve at all

>>12734461
you gotta get the bottled-in-bond, fuckin tasty and not too expensive

>>12734506
I think they have it for the same price as the cask strength bourbons at my liqour store but I don't doubt that its tasty

Thoughts? Used as mixer mostly

>>12715925
2 40's of old e. Going to work with a hangover

Laphroaig Triple Wood

Is true that i can use whiskey for a diet?

>>12734628
You can use anything on a diet if you consume below your normal caloric requirement

Lately i tried a Kilbeggan Whiskey. It was ok for its price, but i got 100$ left. What high class whiskey should i get?

>>12734655
Ok, i bought a Bowmore and a Talisker. 40$ bucks are left...

Unlikely combination that's fucking great: 2/3 Remy Martin VSOP, 1/3 Laphroaig 10.
Tastes pretty similar to mixing a peaty whisky with a sherried whisky; lovely balance of sweet and peat.

I bought my first scotch and its amazing.
Grangestone Highland single mat bourbon cask finish. What should I look for next if I liked this but would like to go to to something a little more complex and enjoyable.

>>12735914
I've had that, Grangestone is fine for the price. But you should know that it's not a proper distillery but a blender/bottler. The real juice is sourced elsewhere. You might not care so much about this distinction right now but you'll probably get to a point where these things matter more as you go down the scotch rabbit hole.

>>12735914
Oh, and to answer your question, since you probably picked that bottle up at Total Wine, try Tomatin 12. It has a similar price point but has more interesting flavors.

>>12736061
>>12736054
TY Senpai

I knew it was. I read that as a place to start blends are not a bad idea, in fact a lot of people really like things like this and Monkey shoulders.
I'll pick up the Tomatin 12 after I finish this.

My grandpa drinks a lot of Crown Royal.
Is there something a little higher quality I could get that we could have together? I've always thought it was kind of harsh and boring.

Bourbon is a meme

>>12735914
Laphroaig 10. It's smoky and intense and probably the best whisky in the world you can get for under $50.

>>12736248
It's gotten a bit expensive over the past five years as its profile has risen.

>>12736250
It's still around $45 in my local store thankfully.

OK so I want to introduce my friend to single malt.
He's never had scotch before, so what is a good easy beginner one to drink with him?

>>12736282
glenmorangie 10.

>>12736321
Kinda figured that would be the stock response and probably what I'll end up getting. But any backups in case he decides to be a tad more adventurous?

>>12736343
highland park 12

>>12717680
lmao bugmen-types can't afford a decent bottle of single malt because they piss away their salary on original NESs trying to recreate their hellish suburban childhood

>>12736282
sounds like you should introduce yourself to some single malts

>>12736862
haha gross why would I want that? I'm not the one interested haha it's just that my friend really wants to know.

>>12734667
Go for eagle rare

>>12736343
How about the glenfiddich 15 for something sherried

>>12736204
Lot 40

>>12736204
Are you a leaf? If yes then keep an eye out for Shelter Point, Lot 40 cask strength or Forty Creek Copper pot for something less pricey

>>12717900
>>12721794
For me it's the far right.

>>12720696
>macallan
Man. It's been forever since I picked up a bottle of that. I may need to swing by the liquor store later. That stuff is fantastic.

>>12726460
I had a bottle of that back in ... 2013 or 2014? Sometime between 2012 and 2015. Anyway, it was a nice smokey bottle of whiskey.

Just got a bottle of Glenfiddich 12 for the first time. Did I make a good choice?

>>12737652
Yes, I unironically enjoy it more than its 15 and 18 year counterparts.

>>12737652
Dad was a fan of that. It's not my favorite, but it's not a bad bottle.

>>12737652
For the popular single malts its great and has more character than what people usually give it credit for

Managed to get a free pour of this recently since the bottle was nearly empty. It was pretty good but definitely would never get a bottle, even on discount. Nice bottle though, anyone else had some?

>>12737652
good scotch
enjoy

>>12737652
Open it and try some

>>12739219
probably my favorite glenmorangie, although for whatever reason they go through good and bad batches of their non-year-designated

>>12739665
>although for whatever reason they go through good and bad batches of their non-year-designated
Yeah, I bought a completely undrinkable bottle of Nectar D'Or.

>>12739771
their most recent one is much better, but still not as good as the original release
hoping this next one is up to snuff

>>12739665
>>12739788
>bad batches of Signet
>bad batches of Nectar D'Or
Is this just a Glenmorangie thing? Not familiar with big name places that have bad batches for flagship releases

>>12739839
it's specifically things aged in non-traditional casks, like sauternes
I haven't had a bad batch of signet, but I think the variability of wine barrels specifically can cause the finished scotch to taste like brimstone

>>12739839
In my case, with the Nectar D'Or, it was due to sauternes casks which had been sterilized with sulphur candles, so my bottle of scotch tastes like rotten eggs.
Also, there's two kinds of sulphur in scotch:
- Naturally occurring sulphur. This can be desirable. This tends to taste "meaty." Examples: Glendronach, Mortlach
- Sulphur from sulphur candles. This is typically found in some whiskies that are aged in sherry casks, but it can happen with other cask types too, like sauternes. This is not desirable. This tastes like rotten eggs.

>>12715925
im not a drinker, but i was told japanese whiskey was good, my local liquor store has suntory and hibiki. which one should i try, OR does anyone have a better recommendation?

>>12739990
nikka coffey grain

>>12740015
i'll try it, thanks.

>>12739990
>japanese whiskey was good
It is, if you like delicate/lightly flavored whisky. It's not if you're looking for a flavor bomb.
It's also terribly overpriced right now. You're better off with a Speyside if you want something delicate/lightly flavored right now, until the hype dies down on the Jap whiskies and the prices come down.

>>12740060

only whisky ive ever tried was fireball, and that stuff was horrible, i was told there was much better stuff and then i was told japanese whiskey was leagues better.

>>12740178
Most things are leagues better than Fireball.
Jap whiskies are great and a terrific bargain in Japan, but at least over here in the States they're overpriced and overrated at their price points.

>>12740178
Fireball is a flavored whiskey liqueur, tastes nothing like whiskey

So theres a new Whistlepig coming out. I've only had the 10 and while it was pretty good, I cant justify paying so damn much for it. Anyone tried something other than the 10?

i got these two coming in, never had them before but i like to try new stuff to build a sense of whats good and bad.

>>12739990
Hibiki is my absolute jam.

>>12742157
bad need but good mixers t b h

>>12742157
I get Famous Grouse is easy to crap on but honestly for as cheap as it is, it's not bad. Perfectly drinkable but not very interesting.

>>12718312
This is such bullshit. Quality vodka is so much more palatable than rotgut.

>>12736879
thanks i will check it out

>>12735217
>mixing whiskey
Is this a meme?

>>12741853
their rye is money if you can handle the spice, but goddamn it's so fucking expensive

>>12741853
>400 bucks for an 18-year rye

nigga what the fuck
even Pappy van winkle 23 is only 250

>>12742712
Is it still sourced from Alberta premium or did they finally get their own fucking product?

>>12715955
Maker's mark or woodford reserve to increase your gunt

>>12742603
t.Machina Dynamica customer
It's not bullshit; it's objectively correct, by law, in the United States:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/5.22
>“Vodka” is neutral spirits so distilled, or so treated after distillation with charcoal or other materials, as to be without distinctive character, aroma, taste, or color.

High West American prairie bourbon on sale 30bux.

Worth it?

>>12743072
there are volatile compounds in spirits that evaporate with age and with proper distillation, AKA the heads and tails
bad vodka, typically distilled from lower-quality ingredients in a column to very high proofs, have lots of both because you have more volume to sell

but you can distill vodka in a pot still just like any other spirit to 40% or so alcohol and get a much more nuanced expression, even if the overall profile is inert

also those laws are parsimony, not distilling standards
>No statement of composition is required if the designation through general and established usage adequately indicates to the consumer the composition of the product.

>>12743102
>writes a fucking essay
>doesn't even address the primary point of the post it's referring to, "as to be without distinctive character, aroma, taste, or color," let alone disprove it
You're wrong.

>>12743472
Here's a vodka that has distinct vanilla and toffee notes
>n-no it doesnt
eat my whole ass

>>12743649
I bet you think expensive cables make audio sound better, too.

>>12743971
>all alcohol tastes the same, everyone is just lying to themselves

this is you right now

>>12742753
It's mostly MGP now

>>12743998
No, not all alcohol tastes the same, but if I heard someone unironically say to my face that vodka has "distinct vanilla and toffee notes," everyone in the room would laugh at you for being a pretentious faggot.

>>12744114
Why would you hearing something dictate the actions of other people?

>>12715925
pee

>>12743649
Woah, so does this vodka, bro.

Get fucking real. Unless its flavored bullshit like this, vodka literally has no taste, hence being called a neutral spirit. You actually manage to be more retardedly snobby than expensive wine drinkers.

>>12744065
Christ, where do they get off charging these insane prices!?

>>12744215
Because somehow they have a fanbase that is happy to pay hundreds for those boss hog editions that apparently are pretty good...but not for the price

Is Suntory Hibiki common or hard to find? I don't remember seeing any Japanese whiskies in the store near me.

>>12744205
>has never enjoyed a rich tasting vodka, neat.

>>12744205
you are genuinely talking out of your ass, but it's okay, you proved yourself wrong with your own post.
>vodka is flavorless by law
>unless it's flavored, but that doesn't count

Bought a signed bottle of this from one of the Total Wine concierge offers on a whim when I won 500 bucks. It was around 180 I think

it's fucking magical, as good of a spirit as I've ever had if you like orange marmalade and the like, fruity preserves and sweet spice. If you have money to burn and find this in stock somewhere, highly recommend

>>12743472
>"as to be without distinctive character, aroma, taste, or color"
>distinctive

There you go. Vodka that does inherit some of the flavor of its original mash can still be called vodka, as long as that flavor not too pronounced. Spirits have to be submitted to the TTB for testing before they'll approve your recipe or approve your labeling to identify your spirit as a Vodka or Gin, etc. If the tester thinks your vodka is neutral enough they'll give you a pass because they honestly don't give a fuck about vodka submissions.

Large brands will of course be indistinguishable from each other. Removing any trace of flavor is important for their consistency.

>>12744542
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/distinctive
>Characteristic of one person or thing, and so serving to distinguish it from others.
Thus, without distinctive character, aroma, taste or color means its character, aroma, taste and color cannot be distinguished from others.
Thus, you're buttfucking retarded if you pay more than $10 for a handle of vodka.

>>12744480
>paying $180 for non-single cask NAS cognac
You dun goofed.

>>12743971
>>12744205
if you actually think all vodkas taste the same then you clearly haven't tried any good ones. If you have tried good ones and can't tell the difference then you literally have objectively bad taste

>>12745628
Not him, but single casks are overrated. When they're good, they're good. When they're not, well, you get the idea. They can be quite singular, for obvious reasons. Blending different casks allows for more variety of flavour, and for any flaws to be ironed out. As an aside, cognacs don't use single casks s such. Generally, they use vintages or age statements. Both work well. Vintages often include older liquid than the year stated, age statements allow for a mix of old and young liquid, which can help freshen up any woodyness.

For me, it's Stagg Jr.

>>12717871
>>12718319

>>12742701
No that's how you get blended malts

>>12742469
The defunct 12 yo is great