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Ketchup is a bit strange when you think about it

>> No.12711538

it's not

>> No.12711547

>>12711534
It goes great on carbonara

>> No.12711559

>>12711538
its only able to be used on a burger but its at every table at every restaurant. are they assuming everyone will order a burger?

>> No.12711565

>>12711559
I put it on a lot of potato dishes, good with fried fish, eggs too.

>> No.12711577

>>12711559
Restaurants usually have ketchup out if they serve fries.

>> No.12711606

>>12711559
>its only able to be used on a burger
What the fuck are you talking about?
More like burgers, hot dogs, fries, hash browns, scrambled eggs, sausage, chicken fingers, onion rings, tater tots, meatloaf, macaroni and cheese, pork chops, mashed potatoes, ham sandwiches, etc.
>>12711534
>Ketchup is a bit strange when you think about it
I don't know about strange, but it has a neat history. You can trace its evolution back to a fermented fish sauce. Ancient Rome's major condiment obsession was also a fermented fish sauce (garum), so in a way this proves the US is the rightful successful to the Roman Empire.

>> No.12711627

>>12711606
>ketchup on hotdog
You’re either six years old, or a legitimate autist.

>> No.12711665

>>12711534
Yes, its amazing that liking this one foodstuff is such a huge marker for shit taste or manchildism

>> No.12711675

Anybody here ever tried beet ketchup? A local restaurant/shop here makes it and it's something else

>> No.12711696

>>12711675
nope. beets r good tho

>>12711606
fair enough you have some good suggestions. dont think id ever put ketchup on a pork chop though

>> No.12711698

>>12711627
>You’re either six years old, or a legitimate autist.
Almost every single hot dog selling establishment in the entire US will give you a ketchup packet and a mustard packet with your hotdog.
Stop pretending it isn't one of the two standard condiment options for hotdogs. That forced Chicago "no ketchup" meme is retarded nonsense nobody outside of that city was even aware of until maybe the past decade or so when Chicago-fags like Obama started mouthing off about it.

>> No.12711727

>>12711698
Irrelevant. The only sauce condiments that belong on any type of sausage are mustard(s) and relish.

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>>12711627
Hot dogs without ketchup AND mustard are disappointing. Not bad, just disappointing. Missing one or the other just makes it feel like you're only eating half of a hot dog. Also as someone who gets both I'd like to point out how much of a lie 'ketchup overpowers the flavor' is. The mustard is way more noticeable than the ketchup.

>> No.12711737

>>12711727
No one cares

>> No.12711741

>>12711727
That's not an argument. It's you repeating your arbitrary preference.

>> No.12712291
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>>12711547

>> No.12712301

>>12711534
its a salty admixture of pasty tomato.

>> No.12712306

>>12711606
Based ketchup bro btfo of tastelets.

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12712308

>mfw jalapeno ketchup from whataburger

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12712317

Yeah, I never understood why I can never find it in the drink aisle

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>>12712317
>unironically using twitter

>> No.12712327

>>12712317
I love killian

>> No.12712330

>>12711534
It's pretty gross yeah.

>> No.12712677

>>12712317
>I never understood why I can never find it in the drink aisle
Because ketchup is a non-Newtonian / shear thinning colloidal dispersion, not a drink.
Part of why the faggots always parroting "ketchup is filled with sugar" have no idea what they're talking about. You don't consume ketchup like you do some sugary drink, and the amount a normal person actually uses in ketchup, like a restaurant packet, contains a grand total of 2g in sugar.
Meaning you're not going to match in ketchup the amount of sugar from even just a single can of Coke unless you're planning on eating 20 burgers.

>> No.12712705

>>12711606
>Ancient Rome's major condiment obsession was also a fermented fish sauce (garum), so in a way this proves the US is the rightful successful to the Roman Empire.
literally the entire fucking world is obsessed with fermented fish, bro

>> No.12712714

>>12712705
Garum isn't around anymore.
Are you talking about Worcestershire sauce?

>> No.12712721

>>12712705
>>12712714
Also the point was Rome's condiment of choice was garum, not that they merely liked fermented fish. Lots of cultures might like fermented fish, but few have it as their primary condiment the way ketchup is the US's primary condiment today.

>> No.12712794

>>12711534
I am not sure how it is in other places, but every ketchup brand where I live, except Heinz is just a sugar tomato mix. What is the point if you do not have that small vinegar taste coming through?

>> No.12712833

>>12712794
>small vinegar taste
Vinegar is a main ingredient of ketchup, not a small taste. Most ketchups have nearly as much vinegar as they do tomato. Can you show me a specific example of a ketchup that's made of tomato and sugar with no vinegar?

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>>12712833
Its not about not having it in the ketchup, but having way to little, and probably upping the sugar contents

>> No.12712885

>>12712846
No, not sure where you're getting this idea from. Felix ketchup is almost identical to Heinz in tomato / vinegar / sugar proportions.
https://www.scandi-shop.ch/products/felix-ketchup-1-3-kg
17 grams of sugar per 80 calories.
Ingredients: Tomato puree (57%), vinegar, sugar, water, salt, spice extract (including cayenne pepper, cloves, cinnamon).
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Heinz-Tomato-Ketchup-20-oz-Bottle/15077427
16 grams of sugar per 80 calories.
Ingredients: Tomato Concentrate From Red Ripe Tomatoes, Distilled Vinegar, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Syrup, Salt, Spice, Onion Powder, Natural Flavoring.

>> No.12712888

>>12711727
you're almost as bad as the Italians

>> No.12712902

>>12712885
>No, not sure where you're getting this idea from. Felix ketchup is almost identical to Heinz in tomato / vinegar / sugar proportions.
It is easy, I get it from my tastebuds.
One taste like sugar tomatoes, and one taste like ketchup.

>> No.12713292

>>12712902
Well your taste buds are demonstrably wrong.

>> No.12713327

>>12713292
Have you eaten felix ketchup?

>> No.12713333

>>12713327
I don't need to eat it to show you it's the same fucking thing in terms of ingredients and vinegar / sugar content.
Whatever you imagine you're tasting it definitely isn't a radical difference in sugar.

>> No.12713345

>>12711534
Well yes, it's just sugar and tomato basically.
Heinz is one of the worst ketchup, here in England we have loads of farms that do their own special ketchups that are so fucking much better... much less sweet and much better flavour.

>> No.12713394

>>12713333
What fucking response is this?
All good hamburgers use beef from the same part of the cow, but it sure is a fucking difference aint it?
Or you telling me that mcdonalds taste the same as a pub burger?
All cola variants taste the same?

>> No.12713412

>>12713394
I didn't say they don't taste different.
I said whatever you imagine you're tasting it definitely isn't a radical difference in sugar

>> No.12713426

>>12713345
>Well yes, it's just sugar and tomato basically.
No, let this retarded meme die already.
It's tomato and vinegar way more than tomato and sugar. There's almost as much vinegar as there is tomato in ketchup. The amount of sugar in contrast is about 2g per ketchup packet. You would need to use 20 ketchup packets before you even got up to the sugar in a single can of Coke.

>> No.12713438

>>12713345
>>12713426
On a less critical note, the importance of vinegar to ketchup also tells you more about its history. It evolved from a fermented fish condiment, and vinegar is the last vestige of that origin story. Sugar in ketchup is only so much of a focus today because of how keto-tarded and terrified of sugar everyone's become.

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>>12711559
>its at every table at every restaurant
US culinary "culture"...

>> No.12713487

>>12713469
Because putting a jar of rotting cabbage on every table at every restaurant is so much better.
Stick to your threads about generic Korean spicy noodle pack #893538 and how dog eating really isn't that bad, Gyeong-wan.

>> No.12713504

Ketchup is for plebs, mayo goes better with chips, sausages, burgers, steak, mash, etc.

>> No.12714460

>>12712291
IF-A MY MOTHER HAD WHEELS, SHE WOULD HAVE-A BEEN A BIKE.

>> No.12714510

>>12711534
I only eat it in burgers and bacon sandwiches.

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>>12712677
but what if we combined the two?

>> No.12715003

>>12711559
yeah, you should visit some other restaurants, not just fast food joints.

>> No.12715076

>>12711534
Why? It's just tomato paste, vinegar and sugar.

>> No.12715081

>>12711534
do you know ketchup was originally based from a chinese fish sauce?

>> No.12715083

>>12711559
Why wouldn't you put it on everything? It's free calories.

>> No.12717068

>>12711559
>its only able to be used on a burger
nonsense, it's actually not able to be used on anything
ketchupfags should have got shot up instead of garlicbros.