/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12682008
I agree. Fuck California rolls. Give me the good shit or gtfo...why anyone would order this basic shit is beyond me.

>>12682008
Normal sushi isnt greasy and disgusting enough for Americans so they had to bastardise it.

>>12682008
they taste good

>>12682022
no

Whats inside?

>>12682022
>>12682022
do they though

>>12682019
what makes these more greasy? looks like avocado, cucumber and fish to me. pretty standard stuff.

when sushi first came to the west coast of America filthy gajin didn't trust raw fish meals so they made it with cooked crab and wala. Also they are safer to sell at supermarkets because there's no raw fish.

>>12682042
But why would you put the rice outside? That's like smearing your condiments on top of the hamburger bun. So fucking retarded ...

>>12682042
>>12682061
the story with the most verification is an LA chef started using avocado instead of tuna in the off-season and later started putting rice on the outside because retarded ameriburgers would try to peel the fucking seaweed off

>>12682076
>retarded ameriburgers would try to peel the fucking seaweed off
do americans really?

>>12682076
>retarded ameriburgers would try to peel the fucking seaweed off

>>12682008
because they taste good and people like them, the real question, is why do YOU exist, because the same can't be said about you.

>>12682091
Fuck you, I taste amazing!

>>12682061
Some people prefer biting into rice first as opposed to a weird sheet of hard to chew garbagepaper, rice is also excellent at absorbing the soy sauce

California rolls are unironically the best kind of sushi. Weebs can fuck off.

>>12682076
Kek

>>12682093
>tasting ur own cum
Nigga u gay

>>12682076
I remember something about nori (seaweed) on the outside made the makizushi look unapealing to amerimutt because it's charcoal-black.
Now they're putting activated carbon filter pellets in their food, go figure.

>>12682030
Cucumber, avocado and imitation crab.(surimi) The one pictured also has flying fish roe on the inside, but that's more commonly found on the outside of the roll.

>>12682076
Made my day anon.

>>12682076
Holy fuckk how stupid wrere those Americans of the early 1970s why didn't they just google sushi and watch anime on Netflix to learn all about glorious nippon certainly europeans of the same time period were intimitaely familiar with japanese cuisine i'm so glad those dumb americans are so stupid because that must mean i'm smart

>>12682154
how embarrassing

>>12682154
Kek

>>12682008
For me its the humble eel roll

>>12682154
The level of mutt cope in this post is off the charts

>>12682008
>why does california exist?
ftfy.

>>12682019
California rolls aren't greasy. You are trying way too hard.

>>12682008
for me, it's the dynamite roll

>>12682019
>>12682042
>>12682076
>>12682080
>>12682121
>>12682154
>american
invented in canada, retards.

>>12682008
More like Philadelphia rolls or ones with too much cream cheese, soft shell crab, tempura on the outside, gigantic maki rolls too big to eat in one bite so they fall apart, or drowned in crunch flake or sauce. Plenty of worse ones to pick on imo.

>cream cheese with sushi
Do americans really do this?

>>12682571
Indeed they do. The Japanese have many a chip flavor that is avocado and cream cheese which is often paired together for a roll with smoked or raw salmon and cucumber.

>>12682030
California. Can't you read?

>>12682008
For me it's the California roll. Simple, delicious, hard to mess up, and cheap! Always order 2 Cali rolls whenever I go out along with a few of their specialty rolls

>>12682008
>Why do californians exist? They are so fucking stupid.
Does that answer your question?

>>12682568
Canada is quite literally in America. So yes, it is American.

>>12682076

>>12682953
Who calls people from Canada American?

>>12682008
Americans are children

California rolls are usually a good place for sushi-noobs to start. The concept of eating sushi is still probably new or gross for them, so a cali roll is kind of the kiddie-pool equiv.

I've had to introduce my dad into sushi this way and he didn't like chopsticks, but the cooked crab and avocado and rice were still within his comfort zone and he enjoyed it. One of these days I'll get him to try some sea urchin.

>>12682982
Anyone who doesn't worship the US to such a degree they consider an entire continent of dozens of other nations synonymous with just one of them. Or anyone who wants to be accurate.

>>12682042
>made it with cooked crab and wala
Wtf is wala? I think you're making shit up.

>>12682008
They're great with hot wings

>>12682008
>Why do california rolls exist? They are so fucking stupid, I just don't get it.
There's pretty much TWO rolls that are comtemporary (fusion inspired) japanese food that work so well together that they are adopted by every American sushi chef.

Avocados, an american and mexican sourced, agricultural project is highly delicious. It needed a stupid name, and it got one! Try to get an "authentic" roll in Japan with avocado! You can't! It's also a delicious foil for the fabricated low cost krab with the k. A fish that is less perishable is a cost savings. When the very FIRST california roll place made this popular, customers would ask about at the other place, until it entered their menu too, and that's how trends start. Copycats.

'There is another one just as commonly found. Popular american Hebrew food associations of delicious bagels with delicious cream cheese with delicious lox pairing inspired a lox+cream cheese combination in a roll. Lox is also a preserved, and therefore lower cost item too, making it not just delicious but affordable at all price levels too. Taken a step further, it can be "crispy" bagel roll and even smoky lox or everything (bagel) seasoning can be applied.

There's a few more fusion rolls out there, too, that are smart pairings that really do work with the foil of vinegary sweet rice, and kelp. Expect poke inspired sushi to happen fast. Sushi Maki a literal giant in S. Florida sushi scene, has great fusion influence that mirrors the international latin audience, from ceviche flavored mayo or aji amarillo (not kewpie) and sugarcane soy to mangoes, plantains, guava and cream cheese sneaking in there. If you don't think foods can improve given some fusion, you'd just be wrong. The Japanese do it too. Their 7 spice blend is really popular and really a fusion food. Shichimi Togarashi is orange peel, sichuan pepper, chilies, sesame(s), nori, ginger, and may contain cinnamon, cloves, fennel, star anise or caraway.

>>12682997
Any countries in particular where that's typical?

>>12683021
I would assume for a nation to have informed citizenry it would need to have a solid education system capable of impressing information upon the youth in a memorable way. Statistically I am unsure but as a citizen of the US myself I find it very disconcerting to see foreigners argue the continent I live on is only comprised of my nation. Or to imply the other nations that make up the Americas are irrelevant to a degree they need not be mentioned.
It would be like calling England Europe and saying anything French is simply French, not also European.

>>12682953
>>12682997
>>12683035
>damage controlling this hard

>>12683137
What damage? I am being sincere.

>>12683035
Your European examples aren't very analogous.

>>12683285
In a different world they would be, is my point. Implying Mexico is not an american country would be exactly like my analogy.

>>12683159
You're not wrong. You're just a cringe-inducing autist. I'll explain: I bet you could name all countries of North America and know that there is one more "United States" in America just south of the USA. But the topic ITT is california rolls, ese.

>>12683015
>Expect poke inspired sushi to happen fast.
Isn't poke basically just sushi in a bowl anyway?

>>12683315
>the topic of the thread
Rule 25.

>>12683295
There's no nation in Europe that uses the word Europe as a part of their national name.

From cursory searches the only people that seem to have any ambiguity or issue about the term's use are Latin Americans, but certainly not Canadians.

>>12683339
The fact a person living in north america doesn't want to be considered an american means they aren't one?

>>12682008
is the rest of the wasabi out of view?

>>12683345
Why create ambiguity with names when the majority of Canadians and non-Canadians don't?

>>12682076
>https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/food-trends/meet-the-man-behind-the-california-roll/article4631256/
>British Columbia Restaurant Hall of Fame
>Vancouver, Canada
>Another thing Western people did not eat was seaweed, so I tried to hide it. I made the roll inside out. People loved it.
Fucking Canadians lol.

>>12683393
Why would someone living in Canada not consider themselves american when they live in america?

>>12683396
It's culture and semantics. Ask a Canadian for the specifics.

>>12682019
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

>>12683405
>culture
You mean a lack of education?
>semantics
Is the handle of a mug the same thing as the entire mug? Is a nation on a continent the same thing as the entire continent?

>>12683396
why do you care, you retarded autist, aren't you supposed to be really good at... something? smelling numbers or tasting colors? yeah? then go on and do that, but do it elsewhere

>>12683419
>why do you care
Talking to people online is fun, the topic is secondary. But you seem to be getting your mental irregularities mixed up. Synesthesia and Autism are two different things.

>>12682019
Rent free.

>>12683415
I believe most Canadians are acutely aware they live in the North American continent, but why are they stupid for not conceptualizing themselves as Americans?

>>12683435
Because they are Americans.

>>12683423
Huh. So you're a sociopath and/or a narcissist then. High IQ but no use for it, hence why I asked if you were good at anything and... you answered that question very eloquently.

>>12683468
I didn't answer that question, you're just assuming things.

>>12683475
It's not your fault.

>>12683484
It partially is, I could be more forward with you to prevent any possibility of assumption making but that would be a bit long winded, don't you think?

>>12683459
Yeah, but we're talking about Canadians and Americans in the scope of nations, and not as broad and ambiguous as all of the Americas.

>>12683495
Anymore than you've already been? Fuck off, fattie....nobody cares what you think. Don't you have a Taco Bell coupon you need to use?

>>12682978
putting the wasabi in the soy sauce is actually the correct way though

>>12683518
>we're
My original post was stating that Canada is a part of america, and so saying California rolls where invented by Americans is accurate. I do not know what you are discussing, but that has been my point.
>>12683525
I have been as succinct as possible. You on the other hand, continue to add useless words to the conversation, only lengthening our discourse. Not that I mind.

>>12683495
It's not your fault, anon. Why don't we wrap it here, I'd like to see you again this Friday at 10am. Anon, I feel you're making progress. Try to be a little more forward, okay? Okay. Now get out, because I'm fucking hungry and craving for some raw fish!

>>12683548
I've been in therapy all my life, and that was pretty poor form. I would recommend at least finding some reference material of what you are parodying before doing so. As for raw fish what is your favorite kind? I prefer Salmon raw but very much like cooked eel.

>>12683554
For me, it's liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti. See you on Friday, anon.

>>12682008
I'm getting california rolls tonight and there's nothing you can do about it

I eat sushi and tempura with my hands. I pick up the miso bowl to drink the last part even though they give a spoon. How much am I dishonoring my family with my table manners? I'm supposed to do all this right asians?

>>12682994
sea urchin tastes like Poseidon jizz.

>>12683317
Poke is just rebranded ceviche

>>12684780
eating sushi with your hands is culturally acceptable in Japan, a lot of people don’t know this. It’s literally the only cuisine you’re allowed to eat by hand there. Tempura is a no go though.

>>12684844
>It’s literally the only cuisine you’re allowed to eat by hand there
anything sold in the street is meant to be eaten with the hands. This includes sushi, nori rolls, yakitori, etc

post only top tier sushi

>>12684850
CUISINE, as in at a sit down restaurant.

>>12682061
>But why would you put the rice outside?
Visual presentation. Black isn't a color traditionally associated with edible things in American cuisine.

>>12684861
Is that sea urchin meat? I'm sure it's tasty, but it looks so awful.

>>12682997
Its probable brazil poster. Look back at the og documents, people still called the nascent country, and even the colonies "America" and used the word "American" to refer to it.

>>12682061
It's not weird, the rice is sticky enough. It's basically just a mini onigiri

>>12684861
Scat roll?

>>12684962
its the gonads, commonly called roe even though thats wrong. its an acquired taste and visual but its so fucking good if high quality

>>12684861
I tried my first Uni about a month ago. It tasted buttery to me.

>>12683534
You say accurate, but I say purposefully misleading.

>>12685055
Mislead means to lie or misinform. Saying you are american when you are is doing neither.

>>12682982
There is South America, Central America, and South American, then there is the United States of America. You are welcome for explaining the obvious.

All my Japanese friends love em
One said "the only thing I'll miss about Canada is California roll"

>>12682997
this is the most fucking retarded argument that never fucking goes anywhere because it's so fucking pointless and offers no value to anyone

>>12683326
found the newfag

>>12685159
It was a statement.
>>12685164
How is he?

>>12683408
Based

>>12682154

>>12685087
Hillary lost.

>>12685280
We're talking about America, not just the US.

>>12682008
They are for Flyover-Americans who think raw fish is icky!

>>12682997
Any non-american zone exists because we allow it to.

>>12685304
Meaning what? Canada exists whether my government wants it or not?

>>12685314
America could literaly pulverize the atoms that constitute Canada into a slurry of soy with focused energy beams.

>>12685326
What is left of Canada would still be on the american continent, making it american soil.

>>12685335
Nothing will be left, exept maybe Neil.

>>12682095
>t. burger with soda-rotted teeth

>>12685350
Doesn't mean much in either context then.

>>12682998
>>12682042

I think he means "voila"

>>12685358
You will succumb to the burden of existentialism.

>>12685087
>>12685111
To say a Canadian invention is an American invention when most people in the English speaking world never refer to Canadians as Americans is unnecessary conflation.

they taste good, people like them. what do you prefer, raw pig penis sushi? go for it.

>>12682119
What's up with liberals' obsession with race?

>>12685394
>unnecessary conflation
It would also be saying a fact.

>>12685425
Instant visual evidence of victimhood level

>>12685392
Getting over that wasn't very hard.

>>12685412
Why is a pig penis where your mind goes?

>>12682008
its in their nature to do the opposite of how things are originally intended

>>12683534
Your point is retarded and I cant believe you are getting so many yous

>>12682154
Yeah because there was NOT A SINGLE japanese national or american of immediate japanese decent living in the US at the time.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm

I hate Amer*cans so fucking much.

>>12682017
Are you stupid?

>>12685714
That someone living in america is american? You consider that retarded?

>>12682008
I don't get it either
>people try to claim it's vegetarian
>imitation crab has fish parts in it

I came onto this board since I just started cooking. Why has this thread about peoples' worthless opinions about other countries?

>>12685813
Because people want to.

>>12683408
LIBTARDS BTFO!

>>12682030
Inside is yellow

>>12683035
No you frothing retard, what you don't understand is that when people say 'America' they don't mean 'US'. America is the landmass, the USA is a country. When someone says 'Canada is America' it's just as correct as 'Spain is Europe'.

There's nothing wrong with it. The Japanese put weird shit in their sushi as well.

>>12685369
>>12682998
no he means Wa-La. it's a traditional french work you say before you eat, meaning "thank you for the food"

>>12686376
Perhaps you're distracted by something, but we agree on that point.

I like it bc it has a good mouth feel, i eat blander rolls like Philadelphia rolls to get the nice textures... also spicy mayo solves some of the blandness issue, and gives you a nice creamy texture... god i could eat this shit every day

God damn you all are idiots. Canada and Costa Rica both lie in the North American continent, but for fuck's sake, NOBODY except hair-splitting autists refer to either one as "Americans". When news reports of British and American forces stormed the beaches at Normandy, nobody back then was thinking they meant an assault force of Mexicans, Bolivians, and Canadians...they knew "Americans" generally was short for the military of the United States of America. When most people say "Americans", they are referring to people from the United States of America....not just ANYBODY from the entire continent of North America.

God damn I hate this fucking website.

>>12682568
You want to name yourself after an entire continent, you take shit for that entire continent

>>12686731
Context is king here anon, we where always talking about Canada ITT. The only way you would be confused is if you joined the conversation late and didn't bother to educate yourself, making you not only a defender of ignorance, but ignorant yourself.
Your exasperation at seeing someone state facts is worrying, in any case.

>>12683530
No, it isn't. There's no "correct" way.
You do what you want and nobody cares unless you do something really weird like take all your sushi, put it in a bowl, add the soy and wasabi and ginger, stir it into a homogeneous mix and eat it with a spoon.

>>12682008
1) theyre cooked, which assuages the fears of people who are scared of raw fish
2) theyre cheaper than raw fish, which helps the bottom line of the restaurant
3)you suck dick

>>12682042
The rice used has more potential to grow bacteria than you'd think. There's a lot of things that can be said about the raw fish being used, but the rice needs to be a certain at a certain pH balance or you will get sick from eating it.

>>12682571
>>12685326
America couldn't even beat 3rd world rice farmers. Twice.

>>12682154
Actually a based post

>>12682008
They are ok, the cream cheese and avocado is a nice touch

>>12682008
california

>>12682008
This. I went to one of those meme tier sushi bars that opened right next to my house just to try it out and there was fucking mayonaise on it

>>12682008
They taste good, just don't call them sushi.

>>12686376
>Haha when we say American we don't mean United States of americans. Just anyone in either American continent! haha what a dumb american! American education, everybody!
Get the fuck outta here with this weak yuro wristed cop out.

>>12682008
>I just don't get it.

Because you are an idiot.

>>12691595
>Mexico isn't american despite being in america because....it's a cop out
???