/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12663107
pancakes and crepes aren't the same thing

>>12663107
Here you go anon, just add water and they are perfect every time.
https://alamarra.com/shop/commercial/crepe-mix-all/original-crepe-mix-wheat-flour-based/

>>12663107
pancakes and crepes aren't the same thing

>>12663109
A crepe is a type of pancake.

>>12663178
idk, sure

>>12663178
They are made differently, so they aren't just the same thing made with different amounts or made in a different pan
you could say that about cupcakes and cakes, but not crepes and pancakes
the only thing they have in common is the thing they have in common with basically every baked good made from batter

Next you'll tell me cornbread is a type of pancake

>>12663209
They are made the same - cooking batter in a frying pan or on a griddle.

>>12663185
a griddlecake is the only thing made with "cornflower." did you make this?

>>12663230
No, whoever made this doesn't know how to spell "difference". I'm assuming a European person made it to have so much emphasis on "Slovak pancakes" which are non-existent in the USA.

>>12663214
but that's a shitty definition because you could coat something in a beer batter and fry it in a frying pan

now you're going to have to walk back your definition of pancake because tempura isn't a pancake covered shrimp

meaning youre just full of bullshit because crepes and pancakes aren't the same

Also I think we call frixuelos "hot cakes" here.

>>12663252
That's not cooking batter, though. That's cooking something that happens to have batter on it.

>>12663252
HOW HARD IS IT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND, INBRED YURO??? IF IT'S A CAKE AND IF IT'S MADE WITH A PAN, IT'S A PANCAKE.

>>12663252
"A crêpe or crepe (/kreJp/ (About this soundlisten)[1] or /krɛp/, French: [kʁɛp] (About this soundlisten), Quebec French: [kʁaJ̯p] (About this soundlisten)) is a type of very thin pancake."

"Dictionary
Search for a word
crepe
/krāp,krep/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
a light, thin fabric with a wrinkled surface.
"a silk crepe blouse"
2.
a thin pancake."

"crepe noun
\ ˈkrāp \
variants: or crêpe
Definition of crepe
1 : a light crinkled fabric woven of any of various fibers
2 : CRAPE sense 2
3 : crude rubber in the form of nearly white to brown crinkled sheets used especially for shoe soles
crepe-soled shoes
4 : a small very thin pancake"

""crepe" in English
crepe
noun
crepe noun (FOOD)
ipicture of crepe

[ C ] mainly us (also crêpe) UK /krep/ US /krep/ a thin, light pancake"

>>12663185
I guess to add onto this, here's the hungarian style crepe I make, it's similar but with soda water to make it more fluffy
>200g/0.4lbs flour
>2 eggs
>30mL/1 oz. Milk
>pinch of salt
>20mL/0.6 oz. Soda
>mix batter ingredients up smooth, then add the soda, whip to combine
>get 3/4 tbsp of vegetable oil smoking on a nonstick pan. Take a ladle of the batter, and pour it into the pan, in sort of a circulqr motion so that it spreads evenly around, instead of spreading from the centre
>cook until edges solid, then go around with a fork to separate, shake to dislodge, and flip. Cook until very slightly brown, then put onto a plate. Do this for as many as you want
>spread jam, nutella, peanut butter, or whatever you want, roll up and eat. I like apricot jam quite a bit
I believe a lot of central yurop does this style, I know the Austrians and the Slovenes make pancakes like this too

>>12663107
Dunno, I always just adjust the proportions until it feels right.

>>12663107
Ask your mom what your grandma used.

250g flour, 500 ml milk, 2 large eggs, teaspoon of salt should be close enough.

>>12663256
not my definition anon, if you have to nitpick it's . a bad definition

>>12663258
so now we are just ignoring the griddle aspect?

>>12663261
The French term, crêpe, derives from the Latin crispa, meaning with "creases". The name "galette" came from the French word galet ("pebble") since the first gallettes were made on a large pebble heated in a fire.
throwing definitions like these at each other doesn't actually explain what a crepe is
making a pancake very thin doesn't make it a crepe

Is Jalebi a pancake or a crepe?
It's batter that's been fried in a pan, you even cover it with syrup after frying it
The answer is NO

>>12663317
At least my grandma would almost certainly just go by feel for making pancakes.

>>12663324
So every single dictionary and resource referring to a crepe as a type of thin pancake is wrong, and you, Anonymous, are right? Get over yourself, fag.

>>12663107
>>12663150
This. Add a little water. I never fucked it up in my life and the recipe I got from mom was flour milk eggs and water so there.

>>12663324
>so now we are just ignoring the griddle aspect?
YES BECAUSE I'M A LUDDITE THOSE ARE NONEXISTENT.

>>12663333
Dictionaries exist to help people understand the meaning of things, but not always to specifically categorize things

The definition of drone in the dictionary is "a remote-controlled pilotless aircraft or missile."
So does that make all toy planes/helicopters drones?
No
If there are inconsistencies in the dictionary, it's because idiots like you insist that words can only have one denotation without any sort of connotation

>>12663364
Those are some impressive mental gymnastics, but since every single dictionary says a crepe is a pancake, I'm going to take their words over yours.

>>12663374
>I choose to be wrong
yeah, I kinda figured you weren't smart enough to care

>>12663364
>So does that make all toy planes/helicopters drones?
They literally are but also drones are male bees.

>>12663380
I have multiple trustworthy, verifiable resources backing up my claim, and there's a clear consensus among people that disagrees with your statement. By all metrics, you're the one who is wrong. If you can find three sources that agree with you and have the same level of credibility as the ones I used, then I'll concede.

>>12663337
The milk and egg powders are already in it, perfect ratios, and though not fresh they taste better than a lot of home made/restaurant ones I've had. For the price it costs less than all of the ingredients from scratch, I used it at a crepe bistro, I'd suggest adding a tad less water than it calls for though. The gluten free is super chewy and doesn't brown well, so I wouldn't recommend that, the buckwheat though traditional to some was shit too, original wheat all the way..

>>12663396
So now all male bees are toy planes
ridiculous

>>12663401
Like I said, all denotation, no connotation
It's not a matter of you having evidence, it's about you using your evidence wrong, like what I just mentioned about bees and planes

pic related
a small, thin pancake
obviously these are not crepes, but because you stick to the definition of a word without considering anything such as a physical context, you should agree that these are in fact crepes

>>12663415
It's a type of thin pancake, not the only type.

>>12663415
THOSE ARE NOT PANCAKES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CAKES.

>"omg le fruity americans"
>can't even make crepes
3rd world cringe

>>12663423
but by all definitions I've found, they are indeed called pancakes
and because they are thin, that makes them crepes

>>12663420
But the definition of crepe is a thin pancake
unless you can find 3 credible sources that say otherwise, then I'm going to ignore you


You see my point?
Just because the dictionary has one definition doesn't mean that there's no other way to interpret the definition

Pancakes, flapjacks, hotcakes, etc etc aren't the same as crepes

>>12663441
The rest of the world agrees that crepes are a type of thin pancake. If you want to go around being wrong and insisting the sky is white and not blue, then go ahead, but you're still the idiot.

>>12663333
Crepes aren't really the same as pfannenkuchen though.

Crepes are too thin to incorporate other ingredients into which is quite common for pannenkoeken/pfannenkuchen.

>>12663453
And a crow really isn't the same as a parrot, but they're still both birds.

>>12663109
Crepes are like really thin pancakes.

>>12663446
You're confused, I get it

The sky isn't actually blue, the scattering of light as it passes through our atmosphere makes it appear blue during the day
I get this isn't your argument, but if you asked a 5 year old what color was the sky at night or what color was the sky during a thunderstorm, the answer would NOT be blue

So AGAIN, just because you think you're right based on evidence you have doesn't mean you're interpreting your "evidence" correctly

>>12663467
pancakes are like really thick crepes

I would do this all day, but

>>12663475
>literally arguing about whether or not the sky is blue
kek, 10/10, you fucking got me dude

>everyone makes them thin and calls them pancakes
>goes on for centuries
>brits invent america
>americans start making them thick
>this is pancakes now
>frenchfags smell the opportunity
>don't worry we can call thin ones crepes hehe

>>12663483
Thanks for finally understanding how dumb you are

>>12663479
No, crepes are really thin pancakes.

>>12663479
What you're referring to "pancakes" can more accurately be called "flapjacks." Flapjacks and crepes are both pancakes, and generally whichever is more common in your area is going to be referred to as a "pancake"

>>12663489
Alright dude, keep doing you. We need more aggressively wrong autists on 4chan to balance out all the correct posts. Genuinely, keep doing this. It's fucking hilarious.

>>12663178
and a meatball sub is a gind of hamburger

>>12663185
>crêpes
>ever not sweet
galette != crêpe

>>12663509
No, they're both sandwiches, just like flapjacks and crepes are both pancakes.

>>12663518
take your deformed letters out of here

>>12663185
american pancakes aren't "the original pancake" just because you were too lazy to change the name of the recipe.

A pancake (or hotcake, griddlecake, or flapjack) is a flat cake, often thin and round, prepared from a starch-based batter that may contain eggs, milk and butter and cooked on a hot surface such as a griddle or frying pan, often frying with oil or butter. Archaeological evidence suggests that pancakes were probably the earliest and most widespread cereal food eaten in prehistoric societies.[1]

The pancake's shape and structure varies worldwide. In Britain, pancakes are often unleavened and resemble a crêpe.[2] In North America, a leavening agent is used (typically baking powder) creating a thick fluffy pancake. A crêpe is a thin Breton pancake of French origin cooked on one or both sides in a special pan or crepe maker to achieve a lacelike network of fine bubbles. A well-known variation originating from southeast Europe is a palačinke, a thin moist pancake fried on both sides and filled with jam, cheese cream, chocolate, or ground walnuts, but many other fillings—sweet or savoury—can also be used.

>>12663500
>We need more aggressively wrong autists on 4chan to balance out all the correct posts
Finally we can agree on something
I'll keep baiting autists like you out and just supplement correct posts all the time whenever I'm needed

You're so welcome, I can't help being this right all the time

>>12663490
No, pancakes are really thick crepes

>>12663491
What you're referring to "flapjacks" can be more accurately called "Pancakes". Pancakes, or flapjacks, are both crepes. Generally whichever is more common in your area is going to be referred to as a "crepe"

>>12663529
lmao, imagine having this level of delusion. I fucking love you.

fucking creeps

>>12663541
>you're deluded you're deluded
>the sky is blue all of the time
>latkes are crepes
alright anon, keep on dreaming, never stop being autistic
someone has to balance my correct posts

>>12663551
No, latkes are pancakes. So are crepes.

>>12663547
*crepes

>>12663556
>Reeeeeeee
>crepes are latkes but not really
>duuhhh derp
anon, that's TOO autistic, settle down

>>12663565
All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

>>12663557
get crepe cancer faggot

>>12663107
Just add flour if it's too think and milk if it's too thick.

>>12663568
That's a great analogy, but it doesn't actually fit in this case
pancakes isn't a crepe isn't a latke
Not all diamonds are rectangles
some diamonds are just rotated squares, but just because some diamonds are rectangles doesn't mean that you can say it's the case across the board

>>12663488
>everyone makes them thin and calls them pancakes

Actually we call them pancookies. Cake derives from a different word than kuchen.

>>12663602
You're right. If a flapjack is a kike, and a crepe is rectangle, and a latke is a trapezoid, then a pancake is a quadrilateral.

>>12663618
kite*
Gotta love muscle memory.

>>12663618
>kike
maybe settle down with the autism there

pancake isn't an overall encompassing term to refer to anything except what you're calling flapjacks
Just because you recognize various foods as a category under it, doesn't mean that is how that works
a pizza isn't an open face sandwich

I'm an american, nobody uses the word flapjack when referring to pancakes
the word flapjack isn't even totally American and has roots in a completely different food

The "quadrilateral" food name equivalent you're looking for doesn't exist
you're just too dumb to realize that flapjacks aren't actually a thing
You might as well just say
>You're right. If a pancake is a kite, and a crepe is rectangle, and a latke is a trapezoid, then a flapjack is a quadrilateral.
or some other form of that, but you insist on a specific categorical view
it's completely arbitrary, and I can't explain that to you any further

>>12663649
Pizza is a type of flatbread. That doesn't mean it's the same as all flatbreads, but they do all fall under the same category. "Pancake" is a category.

>>12663656
Again, pancake isn't a category anymore than flapjack, latke, or crepe is

>>12663663
Yes it is. There are many types of pancake, and whichever subtype is most common in your area is going to be called "pancake". Originally, pancakes looked a lot more like crepes than flapjacks.

i would shit on a thick american pancake and stick it on the front door of every one of you

>>12663667
>Yes it is. There are many types of flapjacks, and whichever subtype is most common in your area is going to be called "flapjack". Originally, flapjacks looked a lot more like crepes than pancakes.

>>12663677
checked

>>12663677

>>12663475
Careful with the tism anon

>>12663688
https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/anglais-francais/pancake/600158

>>12663695
sorry, meant to send to
>>12663446

>>12663688
checked

>>12663718

>>12663785
exactly
pancake isn't an overarching category any more than any other word, such as galette

>>12663802
I'm glad we can agree that a crepe is a pancake.

>>12663806
This is a french dictionary defining the word pancake that's been shoddily translated into english
So you aren't showing a definition of the word crepe
If anything you're showing that pancake is just a type of thick crepe

>>12663814
Either way, you can call a crepe a pancake and be correct.

>>12663828
Only if you can call a latke a crepe

>>12663833
A latke is a potato crepe.

>>12663840
the definition of crepe and pancake doesn't specifically mention ingredients
making that distinction would mean that the crepe is a category
when it's not

>>12663849
Doesn't change the fact that you can call a crepe a pancake, and plenty of people do so every single day. And you'll never be able to stop them.

>>12663317
>250g flour, 500 ml milk, 2 large eggs
That is way too thick. I use one cup of flour (ca.125g), two cups of milk (500ml) and three eggs (medium), plus three pinchs of salt. And a tbsp of sugar for nice browning.

>>12663107
1 cup milk, 2 eggs, 3 tablespoons butter, 3/4 cups flour. Whisk the wet ingredients together first, then whisk in the flour little by little to make the batter as smooth and airy as possible.

german here, the words "pfannkuchen" and "crepe" mean pretty much the same here in southern Germany - a thin disc of dough, pan fried on both sides, from flour, milk and eggs. Thick American pancakes with baking soda that fluff it up are unknown here.

Fuck me eight captches one after another WTF is this shit?

>>12663908
batter will be way too thick

>>12663904
Pfannenkuchen recipes are mostly borrowed from pannenkoeken, not crepes.

It needs to be thick to incorporate pieces of bacon, cheese or apple and not fall apart when you take it out of the pan.

>>12663930
>Thick American pancakes with baking soda that fluff it up are unknown here.
maybe in allgäu or some other hillbilly shit, but everyone else just calls them "pancakes" to distignuish them from pfannkuchen.

>>12663851
>I can't stop people from being wrong
I know
this thread proves it

Is that what you were arguing? Because if so, we've already concluded that you were wrong

>>12664232
If the rest of the world considers a crepe to be a pancake, and one autist on 4chan disagrees, then a crepe is a pancake. Prescriptivism is retarded.

>>12663107
that's blini

>>12664236
>prescriptivism is dumb
>and that's why my way of thinking is better
anon, you gotta stop with the autism

>>12664282
It's not "my way of thinking." Basically everyone in the world except for you considers a crepe to be a pancake. Why would you happen to be the only person who is right about this and everyone else is wrong?

>>12664298
If you look through out this thread, you'd realize I'm not the only one arguing it

Your idea that you're correct because everyone else in the world thinks it is wrong not only because not everyone in the world thinks that's true but everyone thinking one thing doesn't necessarily mean something is true

If you ordered crepes and got "flapjacks" you'd be upset because you didn't actually get the crepes you ordered

We already saw that a dictionary in america calling crepes pancakes was juxtaposed against a french dictionary calling pancakes galletes

So really, what are you arguing? That I'm alone, despite everything ITT that you're ignoring

face it anon, you're done here.

>>12664316
I'm arguing that you can accurately refer to a crepe as a pancake.

>>12664323
Only if you can call a latke a crepe

>>12664331
Sure, whatever, that's fine. It's a potato crepe.

>>12664337
see: >>12663849

>>12664350
If enough people start referring to latkes as crepes, then they're crepes. That's how language works. Crepes are very commonly referred to as pancakes by a majority of people, so crepes are pancakes.

>>12663518
bigouden beurresalé anedebretane saintmichel spotted

4 eggs, 700 ml milk, and flour until good texture

>>12663209
Cornbread isn't but hoe cakes are

>>12663107
>pinch of salt
>1 mug of flour
>melt some butter in microwave
>60-100ml milk
>2 eggs
>sugar
whisk it til its flat

>>12663107
My recipe. I'm always making some for my friends when I'm at their house because I have a teeny tiny kitchen.
>Pick any number of eggs, 1 egg per person is good
>100g of flour per egg
>Put eggs in flour, mix
>Add a little milk, mix
>Add more milk, mix
>Continue adding milk and mixing gradually until texture is suitable and no lumps

Then a bit of rum or something if there's any on hand.

Why do all my baked goods have an eggy taste to them? Even when I don't actually add eggs. Is it the flour?

>>12666165
This is a long shot, but eggy like rotten eggs? That flavor/smell is caused by sulfur, and I find some people's tap water have higher levels of sulfur. If you're using tap water, try running it through a filter first.

>>12666229
Nah it's just a regular eggy smell that tends to go away as the stuff cools.

>>12663656
>>12663663

not enough booze in posted recipes
https://youtu.be/YbxWMDdVSPY

>>12663467
>t.

>>12663415
>It's not a matter of you having evidence
No, it's a matter of you NOT having evidence, because you're wrong.

>>12664903
>flour until good texture

what is good texture - the next 100 posts

>>12664367
>>12664350
In French, pancakes are a type of crêpes. Crêpes are (loose translation) "a dish composed of a thin layer of dough made with flour (usually wheat or buckwheat) and eggs, mixed with a liquid(milk or water)". So, in French at least, crêpe refers both to the vague notion of batter cooked on a flat thing that many countries have a version of, and more specifically the French version of that dish. By that logic it would make sense that, in English, crêpes are a type of pancake. Namely, the French version. It's only confusing because English likes to borrow words from other languages a lot. Like, you know how Prosciutto is a type of ham? It isn't; it's just the Italian word for ham. In English, though, it refers specifically to dry-cured ham made in Italy, usually in Parma or San Daniele.

>>12663247
Cornflower is basically never used in European recipes. This definitely wasn't made by a Yuro.

>>12663185
>Middle Ages
>cornflour

>>12668874
learn history, faggot

>>12668886
Get a load of this faggot