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How is it that the entire US agricultural system is based around illegal labor? Is this the case in European countries, too? It's just so bizarre to me that the entire industry is literally based around paying non-citizens way less than minimum wage

>> No.12622922

Conservatives

>> No.12622923

>>12622913
I don't know about other countries but Greece is definitely all slave labor. The cops look the other way while wealthy landowners put tall fences around their hundred acre farms and employ armed guards to shoot slaves trying to escape. A lot of naive Libyans paid all their life savings to jackals for passage into Europe not realizing they'd be sold right to Greek slave owners.

>> No.12622925

>>12622913
Republicans

>> No.12622933

>>12622923
Sauce?

>> No.12622937

>>12622922
>>12622925
They want american children and retards doing those jobs. Not foreigners.

>> No.12622946

>>12622922
>>12622925
WRONG. They want to get rid of illegals.

>> No.12622957

>>12622937
>>12622946
Conservatives ≠ republicans

>> No.12622959

>>12622913
>How is it that the entire US agricultural system is based around illegal labor?
It was built on slave labor, underpaid immigrants is the next best thing.

Europe has the same system, but with Polacks instead of Mexicans.

>> No.12622962

>>12622937
The point is never to actually decrease illegal immigrants in meaningful numbers. The real goal is to take away what little rights they have now so that they have zero recourse when business owners stiff their pay, turning them into modern day slaves. They want more illegal immigration. They also want the option to not pay them when they don't feel like it and threaten to call ICE on them if they try to quit job because of wage theft and/or dangerous working condition.

Neither party has any intention of actually securing the border (see how quick the Republicans passed corporate tax cuts but can't seem to move the border wall project along), and the American people are basically fucked.

>> No.12622964

>>12622959
So Polacks are the Mexicans of Europe?

>> No.12622981
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>>12622962
Unfortunately this

>> No.12623000

>>12622962
>can’t move forward on the wall
That’s because liberals keep throwing tantrums and shutting down the government. The wall is currently under construction, but at a slower pace than planned. This is one reason we NEED to keep Trump in office in 2020, so the hundreds of miles of wall already built doesn’t go to waste.

>> No.12623017

>>12623000
>corporate tax cut rapidly moved to vote despite Democrat REEEEEEE
>McConnell can't be bothered to fast forward any wall-related spending, and Ryan immediately quits because his job is done, and he will now be rewarded by his masters

cope

>> No.12623018

>>12623000
Oh good lord, you are so fucking brainwashed. Holy shit, stop drinking the koolaid.

>> No.12623060

>>12622937
*legals not illegals
they dont pay taxes so this makes sense to everyone who isn't virtue signalling

>> No.12623063

>>12623000
You people have control of the white house and Senate and these are the best excuses you can make. Lmao

>> No.12623064

>>12622933
his ass

>> No.12623066

>>12623063
What do you mean by you people?

>> No.12623070

>>12622913
A lot of work is covertly done by illegals yes. I had an encounter with that kind of exploitation some 15 years ago when I visited a greenhouse complex to inspect a packaging line. We got permission to film the machines which were manned by Polish workers but we wandered off a bit into the greenhouses proper. The picking of the produce was done by arab looking men who didn't speak a lick of English and who shied away from from us when they noticed the photo and video equipment. This also spooked the owners who took our personal info and implied serious violence if we dared to report them.

Later I had another random encounter when I was visiting a bungalow park during off season. The bungalows next to us housed a large number of Eastern Europeans who claimed their passports were being witheld by their handlers and they were made to work in a bread baking plant for next to nothing.

>> No.12623126

>>12622964
Exactly. Lots of people in UK hate Poles.

>> No.12623132

>>12623070
>this is what liberals want to keep doing to people

>> No.12623144

>>12623060
Many illegals file taxes using an ITIN. It helps when applying for legal status to show a history of having paid taxes. Stop believing stormer propaganda.

>> No.12623145

>>12622913
That's simply not true

>> No.12623152

>>12622913
>Is this the case in European countries, too
No, they use socialist approach: 40% of EU budget goes to agriculture subsidies.

>> No.12623153

>>12623144
>many
Wish wag language that doesn't mean anything. Most live at the expense of the American tax payer. Most of their children do as well. Demoshits only like illegals because they are voting chattel won believe any corrupt official who promises "free" shit in return for elected office.

>> No.12623218

>>12623153
Everything in your post is false, stormer.

>> No.12623238

>>12623144
Still dodging taxes throughout that entire time and breaking the law to become a citizen. Rewarding them with citizenship after that sets a bad precedent.

>> No.12623249

>>12623218
Wrong. Mexicans are highly conservative by nature and would gladly vote Republican. They don’t, because free shit is just too tempting. You yourself would vote against your best interests if you got enoug free shit.

>> No.12623262

>>12623144
The taxes they do pay is nothing compared to their welfare expenses, though. It’s like if someone kept eating your McNuggets but gave you back a half eaten one.

>> No.12623346

>>12623262
Illegals cannot and do not receive federal financial assistance. Hiwever, if they have a child born are US soil that child is a citizen acording to the Constitution and the child, and only the child, becomes eligible for federal financial assistance. Glad to have busted that myth for you. Thank me later.

>> No.12623384

>>12623238
>>12623262
>The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released a report in February 2016, stating that 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States are paying annually an estimated amount of $11.64 billion in state and local taxes, "on average an estimated 8 percent of their incomes.[51]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States#Institute_on_Taxation_and_Economic_Policy_Study

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>>12623144
>illegals paying taxes

>> No.12623395

>>12623384
And yet illegal immigrants cost the American tax payer over 1 trillion dollars per year.

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>>12623395

>> No.12623406

>>12623249
How could an illegal immigrant register to vote

>> No.12623410

>>12623395

The American economy would collapse without those wetback fuckers. You're too stupid to understand that, but its the truth. They chased them out of Georgia and all of their fruit rotted on the vine.

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>>12622913
>How is it that the entire US agricultural system is based around illegal labor?

1) Start a thread with a erroneous & wrong assumption.

2) Get retarded commentary & ingnorant responses to reinforce said faulty assumption.

lol

This is why 'Mericans are so fucking dumb that they fail basic Algebra and can't even use their own language properly. lol

How did 'mericans get this fucking stupid?

>> No.12623419

>>12622937
>>12622946
That’s what they want you to think. The illegal that killed Mollie Tibbets literally worked on a GOP operative’s farm

>> No.12623421

>>12623395

Normal propagandized Americans are just too mentally feeble to understand the economy and market forces. You're too stupid to exist at the wealth level you have, so it's going to evapourate out from under you. America is fixed to make 90% of you poor as shit because the rest of the world doesn't need the US any more. If you're 20 something and living in the US. MOVE.

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>>12623000

>> No.12623425

>>12623410
>The American economy would collapse without those wetback fuckers

lol these ignorant comments crack me up.

Why are americans so uneducated & anti sicence nowadays?


> There are 34 sexes and you can choose whatever you want!!!
> Vaccines are a government conspiracy & give you AIDS!

lol

>> No.12623428

>>12623413
>How did 'mericans get this fucking stupid?

The american main stream media caters to ignorant liberals & don't believe in statistics or facts.

>> No.12623432

>>12623391
this, there's no point for them to file taxes.

>> No.12623434

>>12623413
OP really has zero clue of how big agriculture works. And is apparently proud of her ignorance.

>> No.12623435

>>12623428
>Implying conservatives aren’t just as dumb

>> No.12623436

>>12623425

You didn't see what happened in Georgia with their immigrant laws?

Here you go, shithead

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/georgias-harsh-immigration-law-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/

>> No.12623440

>>12623434
>OP really has zero clue of how big agriculture works. And is apparently proud of her ignorance.

You realize that 1/2 the fishing threads on 4chan are based off of false premises/assumptions right?

>> No.12623453

>>12623000
Remember when Obama was being stonewalled by Republicans in the same manner on his issues and you said that didn't matter and it should be held up as Obama's personal failing as a leader?

>> No.12623463

>>12623000

All illegals come over legally. You utter fucking moron. A dribble of humans come across the rio grande. I know you're too inbred and uneducated and generally a failure in life to know that, but your brother daddy should probably tell you the truth.

>> No.12623485

>>12623262
Hey! Where are you going with that goalpost?