/ck/ - Food & Cooking

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>>12617366
Calorie dense food made from poor people ingredients from the deep south, designed to make you fat because in black culture, which is deeply influenced by multi-generational poverty, obesity is still considered a desirable trait in a mate since it shows you can afford to eat more than your body requires.

southern

>>12617366
Slave food made from the leftovers from whiteys table.
In order to make something good (?) the cook had to put their soul into it.
A black American woman told me this.

So, cheap, tasty, unhealthy... very American.

Cheap tough greens require lot of prep instead of real vegetables which are expensive. You always have a fire going so just simmer until edible.
etc etc

>>12617435
>and black
Very American indeed.

bad food that is fried and spiced to high heaven.

>>12617522
>Mrs. Dash and salt
>OMG too spicy!
Both bl*cks and wh*tes need to be eradicated, you people had your time but you are now dead weight dragging this nation down

>>12617603
This.

America belongs to the DRAVIDIAN BVLL

>>12617603
>>12617606
lol

>this is magic soil that white ppl just lucked out on, my ppl turn now

I hate low IQ ppl the most

>>12617403
Socio-economic theories about the mating habits of the american negro aside, this is accurate. Calorie dense poverty food, often slow cooked or fried, made with less popular ingredients.

Food that's good for the soul, because it's certainly not good for anything else.

>>12617366
Lower and middle class traditional Southern foods that are marketed as "black" despite pretty much everyone cooking and eating it. Commonly seen as unhealthy even though that's more on the individual cook than anything.

As an American who grew up in the northern part, I never actually knew what this was and I was afraid to ask.

>>12617616
Asian average IQ is measurably higher than all other races
We also built the rail system so there’s that...

>>12617997
Higher than Jewish?

>>12617997
>average
You are clearly not average ya’ dumb gook

>>12617441
>greens aren't real vegetables

I'm a white girl who grew up in the deep southern states of America. Soul food is and was pure joy for me.
I had an old fat black grandma next door who would baby sit me after school until my mom got home and she's the one who got me interested in cooking. She'd have me help her prep things and shell peas and wash greens and taught me how to filet fish and separate chicken into parts. She was wonderful. She gave the best big warm squishy hugs and everything she made, she'd share with me so that one day I could make it for my own family. I miss her very much. She was one of those people in your life you never forget and love forever. Every person should be so lucky to have such a person in their life.

>>12618690
You sound like a niggerlover

>>12617997
Yeah, the chinese would never cheat on an IQ test.

>>12618690

how fat are you fatty

nigger food

>>12618703
Get out, faggot.

>>12618690
You'll never be a girl.

>>12618703
>>12618733
>>12618790
D'awww, look at all this same-fagging. You try so hard and get so far, but in the end, does it even matter?

>>12618690
Thanks for sharing a nice warm story, we need more comfy shit like this and less aggressiveness on /ck/.

It's a WASP word for black southern food, they think blacks have more spiritual than them or something.

>>12618690
Be my wife. Never met a white woman that could cook besides my mother.

>>12618850
It isn't WASP, it's millenial/zoomer. Soul food=Souther food, but millenials and zoomers call it soul food because it is more palatable if brown people do it.

>>12618690
I'm looking for a gf if you're looking for a bf ;)

>>12617997
You were brought in to do manual labor in order to undercut white workers’ wages. Literally the Mexicans of that time

>>12617366
cheap fried meats & canned goods with lawry's seasoning salt, tony chachere's, and walker & sons poured over them.

>>12618875
>it's millenial/zoomer.
soul food has been used for decades, it's not a new term.

>>12618875
>it's millenial/zoomer
That's fucking stupid, did you only just hear about it? Soul food's been around for ages.

>>12619013
Literally for longer than jazz has been a thing at that

>>12618871
>>12618967
Would if I were single, baby.

>>12618690
Girl or boy, it doesn't really matter, your story high lights a unique aspect of southern culture and that was a symbiotic, loving, relationship between blacks and whites. One example of it was Faulkner's character Dilsey in "The Sound and the Fury," who much to Jason's chagrine, ruled the roost. She was based on Faulkner's own cook.

>>12617366
fried carbs and sometimes meat.

>>12617603
It's so spicy, Anon!

>>12619268
thank you

>>12617681
This is the answer OP.

>>12619309
Ayy, fuck you, man. Don't repost my mother's cooking like that.

>>12619309
That is a LOT of black pepper.

>>12617403
Mississippi reporting in. Yep. Pretty much this.

>>12617366
Heart disease and diabetes.

>>12617366
Mexican food black people turned into something not shit mixed with some american white people food

>>12620275
You know damn well the only wh*tes you see in MS are either morbidly obese or meth/fetanyl addled skellies. Stop pretending to be stupid.

>>12617366
>Can somebody explain non-American what soul food is?
Outside of a few items, soul food is diner food. It's homecooking pan fried meats, think items cooked in a cast iron skillet, from fried chicken, chicken fried steak, pork chops in cornmeal, etc. Vegetables will be right from the fields, deliciously fresh varieties of beans or greens, slow simmered with a bit of salt pork or ham hock, and flavorful. Calling it soul food is where you also include pieces and parts other don't always want to cook with, due to be fussy or being offal meat. So, gizzards, chicken necks, smoked turkey wings, and other scrap meat lovingly prepared. It's rare, that. Most soul food is just someone's mother who made fat kids happy using butter in everything and serving giant quantities. The Caribbean didn't have cows running around for the most part, just canned milk and mixes, so anything cheesy is a luxury. In the 70s, there was still government cheese at a reduced cost, think mealy Velvetta, so mac n cheese is the poor man's way to bring in nutrition from dairy from those from that era or those places. Therefore, mac n cheese is the special casserole added to all party time family celebrations. These two things, the offal and the mac is what distinguishes delicious home cooking farm to table style from just being Southern, or midwest or any other regionality. Desserts vary a bit. Nothing to do with cost, sweet potatoes were simply Southern, and pumpkin Northeastern, and when Southerners moved, they took their preferences with them and so the family legacy and culture began.
What is soul food today? Sadly, it's laughter in the face of health, most of all. Poverty and lean times eschews good sense about nutrition and care for one's long life. Reward yourself in the now and present. So, things simply haven't disappeared off of family tables as readily as it has in other communities that went low carb/low fat.

>>12617366
Southern food coopted by blacks.

>>12618690
How much black dick do you let invade your orifices every day?

>>12618690
>I had an old fat black grandma next door who would baby sit me after school
In Miami, I had the old Cuban couple behind my house growing up where I got shown the right way to pick a mango (laying on a quilt under the tree and catching them as they fell, how to pressure cook a pot of dried black beans with bay leaf and dark sugar, how to rub a pork roast with bijol, sour orange, garlic and slow cook it before there was ever a caja china on the market. I remember silk covered antique chairs and pillows, real linen sheets, and silver that could have been in Versailles. I remember visiting the Cuban bakeries where loaves were still cooked on a single blade of palmetto frond to stabilize the dough and also cut into it midway during baking rather than a razor blade. I remember birthday cakes with layers of flan custard, pineapple and guava between rum soaked sponge, with fluffy boiled sugar icing as crusty as a meringue cookie with flavor of marshmallows.
These influences made my actual memphis-born paternal grandma's southern cooking seem like health food. A side of sliced ripe field picked tomatoes, parboiled to peel them first, of course. Vidalia sandwich with durkees sandwich spread. Speckled butter beans served alongside steak from the grill. Spoonbread (northern?). Slaw made with cider vinegar. BBQ pork loin cooked on a rotisserie with hickory chips. Whole hog BBQ with carolina vinegar baste. Fried okra, quickly sliced then dusted in just simple fine cornmeal sticking to the okra before frying, drained on brown paper bags. Queen corn on the cob. Mustard greens were preferred over collards or turnip, had to go to a ghetto market to find them fresh. There was an occasional frog leg in the freezer, but mostly stone crabs in there. Was not soul cooking, just a lot of fresh vegetables and higher quality meat from a butcher who aged steaks. I had to go to a restaurant to get fried liver.

>>12618663
>Higher than Jewish?
Nope, he's just wrong. It's not higher.

>>12617997
>>>12617616
>Asian average IQ is measurably higher than all other races
>We also built the rail system so there’s that...
What rail system? Chinese workers helped in a lot of manual labor around the world, but were they the engineers that "built" it? Or the ditch diggers?

>>12617366
It's southern home cooking or diner food. Black people will tell you it's entirely black and made from the scraps off the table of whites but that's pretty much bullshit. Generally, they were made for whites by black """servants""" and the less desireable cuts were done to.as given to slaves. But a lot of white trash and more middle class whites are all of that stuff like ox tails, chicken livers, gizzards, chitlins, pigs feet etc simply to avoid waste. A lot of boomer and before whites ate the stuff to because their housemate cooked what she liked for them.

>>12617606
>comes from a culture that’s had five thousand years to achieve what America has achieved in 300 years
>unable to do it
>move to America and LARP as someone who’s achieved something
You’re going back whether you like it or not.

>>12620543
Should've proof read that
*were sometimes given*
*ate all of that stuff*
*housemaids*

>>12620482
Oh lord, stahp. I'm so hungry right now and I can only drool so much before I dehydrate. Cuba is on my bucket list - especially now that it's open to the US again for tourisim. It'll be like visiting a whole new world, I'm sure. Can't wait.

Also, htf do you make birthday cake with flan in it?? I would have dove in face first to that shit.

>>12617403
you're a retard who needs to stay off of racist propaganda boards like /pol/ and actually leave your house and go into the real world for once.

>>12620733
Go away schlomo

>>12620733
Oh look it's another hillbilly who thinks "I'm not racist nuh uh YOU'RE the racist" is an actual argument

>>12620733
This is the samefag from before. Don't feed the troll.

>>12617366
Greasy fried nigger food from the south

>>12620729
I went there before it was legal

If your idea of cuban food is based on florida, you will definitely not like the food

If you just generally like food, you will not like the food

Honestly I can't think of any reason why anyone would visit cuba and be like "the food was good" unless they were absolutely lacking in judgment and taste

The cigars are legit but there are a lot of poor people trying to sell substandard homemade cigars passed off as the fancy ones for export, those are perfectly smokeable for the most part and in some cases not too terrible, but you should go to an official shop if you want the real thing because literally every single "I have a friend at the factory" situation is a scam

The whole island is a decrepit shit hole, it has museum value but otherwise it's pretty depressing what the embargo (read: butthurt florida second generation cubans) did to them

>>12617366
https://youtu.be/JPFF7rhmBGM?t=471

>>12617366
That chicken looks aight...rest looks like various stages of dogfood though.

>>12620733
>he isn't informed about the spic-nig cycle

>>12618690
Based. You literally had a mammy!

>>12620733
>facts about my culture offend me
retard

>>12620493
>manual labor is bad
t. MAGAtard who wants to ban 21st century jobs because the coal mines will reopen any day now

>>12618690
Dilate

>>12617997
Ahem

>Small
>Penis

>>12618690
based and comfy

>>12620962
That's disappointing to hear. I was serious about wanting to go and I knew that they had been left behind in the world when the embargo took place, but I had hoped that with it lifted that they would have taken the opportunity to rebuild and capitalize on the tourist money to improve life.

>>12622948
Not the anon you were talking to but I also grew up in Miami. There are a lot of Cubans who either have long standing grievances with the government or simply never want to go back so it creates a very tense situation for people with family in both countries. Also, depending on your family’s feelings financial/political standing in Cuba, you can viewed with suspicion if you spend too much time in the states or frequently travel back and forth, which may result in compulsory labor to prove your allowance. While Cuba is technically “open” now, much of the old ways of doing things are still very strong.

>>12618690
My fat old black baby sitter we called Miss L'Olah. I'm sure I'm spelling it wrong but it was pronounced as, "Lee-oh-lah"

>>12617997
You also come from a retarded culture that still believes ground up animal parts make your dick bigger. Be it the tiananmen square massacre in china or the nukes in Japan you fuckers haven't suffered enough.

>>12622265
redpill me on the spic-nig cycle

t. Spic

>>12617366
Depends on where you are but generally there are two stratas of southern food a high brow French influenced tradition and stems from the dining courses served in the manors of the wealthy southern planter class and then another strain that was a much more provincial patois of the common person which was similarly influenced by French cuisine as a consequence of the service nature of slaves and poor whites in the highly stratified antebellum society.

This secondary working class cuisine is what came to be known as "soul food" it pulls heavily from a diverse group of European and African traditions and the further north one goes the more prominent and dominant the English influence becomes.

To see the origin of many famous themes of soul food and the continental influence on it really study the food culture of New Orleans. It was the wealthiest and most cosmopolitan city in North America until after the Civil War and it shows in the food culture. Being a French speaking colony at times controlled by the Spanish so this is where you get your sausage styles, braised greens (always in 3 for good luck), etouffe, gumbo, jambalaya, fried chicken etc. from while European tradition contributed the technique for most of the dishes while Africans informed the flavors (subbing bell pepper for celery in soffrito for instance). The more Anglo tradition of the colony like the ones along the mason Dixon line the more Anglo the dishes like macaroni and cheese and country hams but even here French cuisine made its mark like in the super flaky pastry style biscuits. Then you have rice which is a staple in the Carolinas and delta regions whereas elsewhere plain corn "grits" are common basically a runnier textured polenta but grits probably came first.

>>12623240
Soul food might be considered to be the economically poorest faction of southern cooking heavily influenced by the African American caste of the south. Hallmarks include offal dishes like hocks, pigs feet, and chitlins but also a vegetable component that's often overlooked in popular imagination by outsiders which has always included an assortment of winter greens and the cornucopia of summer harvest with fried green tomatoes succotash medleys, watermelon, pickled watermelon rinds etc if it grows it'll find its way onto the plate.

>>12623246
> fried green tomatoes

OP, if you've never tried these, I insist that you do at least once before you die. These are my absolute favorite and I could eat a whole plate of them!

>>12617403
It's calorie dense because they needed to work as slaves all day every day you absolute fucking asswipe go back to your containment board special mommas nazi boy

>>12617997
>Asian average IQ is measurably higher than all other races
Not an argument, retard.

>We also built the rail system so there’s that...
You provided manual labor and that's it.

>>12619268
I live in Mississippi and I agree, forcing Niggers to leave white homes was the worst thing that ever happened to America. In the next Civil War some whack jobs are going to say that Humans can’t own dogs and then they’ll call Humans racists when they get angry about wild packs of dogs biting and stealing from people.

>>12620729
>Also, htf do you make birthday cake with flan in it?? I would have dove in face first to that shit.
Old school bakeries, a real labor of love. It's chilled, sliced and placed in between the sliced layers in the pan. The whole cake would be soaked in syrup, which might taste of nothing at all, or a bit like rum or vanilla. Pic is from a yelper who got a messy picture of a sliced cake at Ricky Bakery, a small chain keeping the party catering going. You can see the whipped marshmallow-y merigue icing there, and this cake has two flan layers, where some cakes will have 1 layer of fruit in there, pineapple or guava.

>>12620962
>>>12620729
>I went there before it was legal
>If your idea of cuban food is based on florida, you will definitely not like the food
>If you just generally like food, you will not like the food
This. You go to S. Florida for good Cuban food, and expect not to have a single authentic or well made dish the entire time you're in Cuba (sad but true). The aristocracy, the cooks, the intelligensia, all of the old cuban everything left at the time of Castro or was persecuted. It's only been in the last 10 years people were officially allowed to garden or grow a business in their home. It's been starvation mode for 5 decades of Hell down there.
I actually wouldn't feel safe to go there at all without proper government relations with my home country and a working embassy, unless I was dual passport or extremely monied and powerful, which I'm not. It carries the same risk for Americans as Russia or NKoren dreams for travel. It's not good.

Maybe in 20 years? There will be some eco-tourism infrastructure outside of the city, where you can enjoy some unspoiled reef diving, or rain forest trips to see birds and lizards, but it's not at all there yet. Internet and freedoms can fix it quickly, but for now, it's not happening.

>>12623969
They weren't forced to leave, it just became impractical financially for all but the very rich to have servants. Also I know you're larping as a Mississippian because Mississippi is primarily rural (other than Jackson) with very small towns. Rural and small town blacks and whites get along fine. We don't have the problems of big cities like Memphis where roving wild bands of wild nogs rampage through the streets.

>>12624026
>The aristocracy, the cooks, the intelligensia, all of the old cuban everything left at the time of Castro or was persecuted.
Castro, Guevera and the entire leadership were educated doctors and phd's, idiot
>It's only been in the last 10 years people were officially allowed to garden or grow a business in their home.
Source? Oh your butthurt, expatriate Bautista top 10% descendent who raped and pillaged his own people.
>It's been starvation mode for 5 decades of Hell down there
Illiteracy rate prior to Castro @ 90%, after literacy rate close to 100%. Medical system unavailable to 90% of Cubans prior to Castro, now ranks at 39th worldwide, only 2 positions lower than the US, lol! Tbf, their medical system would surpass the US if it weren't for the stupid embargo.

>>12618690
>>12620482