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Atherosclerosis is inevitable and initial onset roughly corresponds with puberty in all humans. Eating lots of cholesterol can make it worse, so can smoking, testosterone, or just being genetically inclined.
So shut up and eat your butter.

>>12602076
my retard co-chef told me theres a procedure where they essentially scrape your internal veins with a micro umbrella that clears up plaque
>he bullshits essentially everything but some things have a grain of truth like his story when he got shot a bunch.
Is there a procedure to clear plaque or is it only a matter of maintaining?

>>12602187
There are stents and catheters but it you should just change your lifestyle before any of that's needed.

>>12602187
Atherectomy

>>12602187
There's a bunch of experimental ideas about how it might be reversed, like using an ultrasound to break up plaque (same principle as breaking up kidney stones) but none of it has become widely used yet.

>>12602076
Don't tell me what to do cunt.

>>12602199
ive heard arguments on both sides for heart health
>cardio is good but running is bad, carbs kill but whole wheat is healthy? dont eat fats but extra virgin olive oil is great for the heart
Im so lost
the only bread i eat is corn tortillas for when i make fish tacos, i pam fry more or less everything with olive oil, I eat once a day and i occasionally only have a protien shake for the day
>am i gonna die?

It's funny how these retard threads bunch up as if they're all paid for by the same people pushing an agenda.
Here's the others...
>>12602076
>>12601809
>>12599640

>>12602160
dietary cholesterol isn't nearly as bad since it merely contributes 20% or less of total cholesterol, it's trans-fats and saturated fatty acids that makes things much worse. So no, fuck butter.

>>12602076
Do you tards call that "synchronic commercials?"

>>12602232
polyunsaturated fats on the LDL membrane are what actually oxidize in the blood, not saturated fat

>>12602232
You don't have to take an all-or-nothing approach to it, though. It's fine in small amounts.

>>12602240
And your point is?

You can live over 100 years if you eat kale smoothies. The only catch is, you gotta eat kale smoothies for 100 years. As for me, I will eat bacon cheeseburgers and milkshakes until the day I die. End my life with a smile, peace the fuck out; I enjoyed it.

>>12602187
There have been some images suggesting at least partial clearance of clogged arteries after a strict very low fat diet (less than 10g/day)

It's like a bot is posting.
How does 4channel allow this?

>>12602242
It’s silly to blame saturated fat for atherosclerosis when it’s actually polyunsaturated fat that’s oxidizing and causing the formation of plaque

>>12602246
kale is delicous you faggot.
Add some lemon wedges for a zing and shit is cash.
Bacons good too but im not gonna revolve my life around some swine strips

>>12602187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYpyj97Jmxg

>>12602256
>kale is cash
>swine strips

>>12602230
no this is my other thread
>>12601963

>>12602248
IM NOT A FUCKING BOT

>>12602261
post body pig boy

>>12602254
Stress will be the one that get's you.
I have some holy water that might help alleviate that stress.

>>12602262
You can be sure I'll get right on those.
Are you a homosexual? Perhaps that's why you have so much stress.

>>12602254
>>12602240
“what causes LDL to become oxidised in the first place? It was later discovered that the oxidation of LDL was initiated by the oxidation of linoleic acid contained within the LDL particles. Indeed, linoleic acid is the most common oxidised fatty acid in LDL. Once linoleic acid becomes oxidised in LDL, aldehydes and ketones covalently bind apoB, creating LDL that is no longer recognised by the LDL receptors in the liver but is now recognised by scavenger receptors on macrophages leading to the classic foam cell formation and atherosclerosis. Hence, the amount of linoleic acid contained in LDL can be seen as the true ‘culprit’ that initiates the process of oxLDL formation as it is the linoleic acid that is highly susceptible to oxidation. Additionally, an increase in the intake of linoleic acid intake increases the linoleic acid content of very-low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) and high-density lipoprotein (HDL) increasing their susceptibility to oxidise, which further increases the risk of cardiovascular disease.”

>>12602287
Why not just give a proper link instead of being a parrot?

>>12602287
“oxidised cholesterol was also considered a culprit as it was contained in atherosclerotic plaque, which led to the demonisation of dietary cholesterol as a cause of coronary heart disease (CHD). However, cholesterol bound to saturated fat does not readily oxidise; this is not the case with linoleic acid. Moreover, lipids from human atherosclerotic plaques have been found to contain oxidised cholesteryl linoleate (cholesterol esters containing linoleic acid). Moreover, the severity of atherosclerosis is noted to increase with increasing oxidised cholesteryl linoleate. In other words, cholesterol was protected from oxidation if bound to saturated fat but susceptible to oxidation when bound to linoleic acid. Again, this suggests is that eating more linoleic acid increases the oxidation of cholesterol within LDL particles further increasing atherosclerosis formation and the risk of coronary heart disease. Indeed, healthier regions of aortas have been found to have less oxidised cholesteryl linoleate (5.8%–9.5%) compared with atherosclerotic regions (12.4%–21%).”

A bot, that's it.

>>12602289
It’s easy to copy and paste to find the paper yourself. I posted the most relevant portions

>>12602295
If you gave a link then anyone could find it, are you afraid of peer review or did your bullshit fail and you didn't get your little phd?

>>12602297
It’s not my paper and like I said, all you have to do is copy and paste a portion of it into google and the paper will pop right up for you

>>12602300
ok, so why are posting it instead of giving that link in the first place, do you honestly think that anyone is going to read that at 03:26 on a Monday morning?
If you give a link then people can read it later, duh. It helps to look through the eyes of others, it'll help you in later life you arrogant faggit.

>>12602306
> EST

>>12602306
The paper is too long for most 4chan readers’ attention spans so I posted the most relevant and accessible portions for laymen. Here is the link because you keep bitching and apparently don’t know how to use Google: https://openheart.bmj.com/content/5/2/e000898

>>12602312
So what I said was right, you're an arrogant faggit.

>>12602314
Have sex

>>12602317
>>12602312
dilate

>>12602319
Cope

>>12602319
cringe

>>12602274
You have Justin Bieber's lower face.

>>12602317
Not with a faggit like you.

>>12602323
what's a justin beeber?

>>12602324
cringe

>>12602329
I had to crack up on that one, a fag cringes at a normal human. You must be from Cali.

>>12602333
cringe

>>12602334
Back to frisco you go!

>>12602338
cringe

>>12602323
Onterrible boys all look the same

>>12602340
Do you do those fag marches?

>>12602343
cringe

I suspect the fag is testing his bot out.

>>12602346
based

>>12602274
bro if you're gonna post don't look like a skelly leprechaun

>>12602437
>t.skelly leprechaun

>>12602446
He is insulting to my people

>>12602187
i have participated in autopsies before, some on dead bodies that had severe artherosclerosis.
these blood vessels are very hard to cut open with a scalpel because the plaque inside is hard as rock.

it's not just soft yellow gunk like the pictures make it out to be. it's solid mineral, hard and brittle.

breaking up and removing the plaque requires heavy force, i dont think it can be done in a living patient without completely destroying the blood vessel in the process.

>>12602160
High blood pressure is the single most critical factor in atherosclerosis. Without high blood pressure, you don't get the widespread micro-scarring in your blood vessels for lipids to latch onto and create plaque.

>>12602474
how do i avoid high blood pressure?

>>12602437
why are you standing so far away

>>12602543
dont stress, exercise, eat high fiber foods, decrease salt intake

>>12602580
>decrease salt intake

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/salt.shtml

>>12602076
I think perhaps you misspelled "don't be vegan"

>>12602580
(Different anon) my blood pressure is so low, it's right on the border of "needs medical attention" am I gonna die? (It's on the border of "too low")

I hope it just indicates I'm so relaxed I'm never going to die.

>>12602553
cuz he;s a manlet.

>>12602076
Easy low caloric so you can eat whatever you want
The only people interested in the quality agenda is the industry creating fads
Ie: avocados are healthy, and bread is bad hurr durr

>>12602076
Veganism stops said problems

>>12602224
>>am i gonna die?
Yes, actually.

>>12602076
Just die at 40. Lives not worth living beyond that point anyways

>>12602937
thats what its starting to look like.
>on the contrary every male role model for me growing up were dried out coke heads and/or alcoholics
so working out and eating clean might help a nigger out

>>12602306
>>12602314
shut up retard

>>12602224
you should eat more than once a day but as long as you get at least moderate exercise and eat a balanced diet with vegetables and get enough sleep you will live forever

>no one has mentioned vitamin k2
enjoy your calcified arteries lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu8ffw5LtzQ

>>12602076
Don't tell me how to end my life.