/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12575737
mcdonalds has the very best fast food burger.

>>12575742
do you work for mickey Ds?

I like their double quarter pounder it is tasty

>>12575760
no, what fastfood place has better burgers than mcdonalds?

>>12575762
I think they're using fresh beef for quarter pounder as of May 2018, in US at least. sadly, here where I live they don't seem to do that, the meat and buns are tasteless.

>>12575782
Shake Shack

mcdonalds has never been shitty
go get mcdonalds in a white area
all joking aside, this makes all the difference in the world

The McChicken is truly fantastic. Before that, they had the Crispy Chicken Classic, and well... it was a "classic"! And for children, I can't think of a more nutritious AND delicious burger than McDonald's's patented plain quarter pounder premium beef burgers. Any and all criticisms of McDonald's's food is usually made by online trolls paid by competitors to "astrosurf" the internet with fallacious claims meant to denigrate McDonald's (yes, they really do pay people to say this stuff on the internet. CREEPY!!) Honestly, there are just so many great options at your local McDonald's, with really friendly staff that will fulfill all your needs.

>>12575797
Pretty much this, go to the McDs in a rich white part of town, it will be clean, staff friendly, and food will be better

>>12575805
yup
it's night-and-day

>>12575742
>>12575762
>>12575797
>>12575803
living the life,
glad it's you and not me

Fries used to be fresh and made from tallow, and the shakes used to be good. Kids would go there just for those sometimes. McDonalds always sold itself as a quality establishment. As with everything in America, quality slowly declines due to fucktards and the rest of us being to apathetic to stand against them. Some jackass blamed animal fat for his stroke and had the massive amount of money to travel city to city blaming animal fats for heart problems, rallying for people to switch to hydrogenated oil. McDonalds eventually shrugged and switched to cheap shit as the general public listed to bad science and hysterical media, then started using beef salt to season their fries. Which didn't work because of retarded vegetarians and dot people. Now McDonalds just doesn't care because it's easiest to make shit as cheap as possible and cater to the dumbest people possible, most everyone else will put up with it or get used to it.

>>12575814
yeah ok
there is room for mcdonalds in any diet and lifestyle
don't assume everyone just sits on his ass stuffing his face with shit all day. says more about you than it does about us, my man

>>12575737
>have McDonalds burgers always been shitty?
Nah, it's okay. It just varies from location to location.
>or was it different back in the day?
It was somewhat different, but it's still alright.
>when did it all go wrong?
When they stopped serving super-sized meals. Fun fact, a lot of the Super-size-Me results were falsified and the guy who did it was an alcoholic since the age of 13, which lead to him having health problems.

>>12575737
My father used to go to NY monthly in his 20's and he would have McDicks because where we grew up there was no chance of having one.

When we moved there was a Mcdonalds but he was two kids heavier, and had to stop the fast food.
I remember one time when I was a bit older and my dad obviously had gotten a raise we all went out for some food and he took us to McDicks, this was probably in the late 90s by then, and we never went back.

years later he admitted it wasn't the same as in NY.

>>12575830
>the guy who did it was an alcoholic since the age of 13, which lead to him having health problems
whoa, first time hearing that. if true, he was a real faggot. how convenient, just blame McDs for everything, people will praise you man because America bad and capitalism bad.

Their burgers aren't too bad. They just aren't the best. What helps them is that they are everywhere and usually consistant. I have never had a big Mac taste different from Alaska to Florida. I can't say the same about other places.

>>12575855
A few universities paid college students to live on a similar diet as an all McDonald's diet that was shown in supersize me and found no significant change in health. The guy wanted to blame hurt McDonald's because it's big. It's easier to blame McDonald's for getting fat than blaming yourself for being a lazy fat sack of shit.

>>12575824
not criticising, just wish you guys had more options...

>>12575888
checked and understood
i have options like you wouldn't believe
but when cheat meal rolls around, i find myself going to mcdonalds. it's just the way it is. i really think they do a great thing, and it's because everything has been so-heavily tested and the prep is painstakingly laid out for the workers

>>12575887
What you are suggesting is that Supersize me is a beat up and that following a strictly McD diet has 'no significant change in health' and not completely unacceptable? Fuck off McD employee.

>>12575855
He confessed to the alcoholism back in 2017 alongside some sexual misconduct he participated in, It ended up crippling the "Super Size Me 2" documentary he was going to make. You can find the archived twitter post online.
>>12575910
A university was known for this test and the students didn't have anywhere near the results of the guy. They were somewhat tired, but they didn't have any horrendous results.

>>12575797
This

>>12575737
My parents told me they were pretty mediocre burgers. Worse than I'd you made them yourself. So just like today, but imagine that they used semi-fresh ingredients instead of lab-engineered flavor compounds.

>>12575910
McDonald's isn't inherently unhealthy. In fact most entree menu items (except desserts) have decent nutrition ratios. The major problem with McDonald's and fast food in general is that it's not filling and everything is a calorie bomb so multiple menu items in a single meal adds up quickly.

The problem with Supersize Me (as outlined in multiple research studies and the documentary Fat Head) is that Morgan Spurlock intentionally overate in order to push an agenda and didn't watch his caloric intake (the latter invalidates his thesis as his documentary hinges upon the hypothesis that fast food is inherently unhealthy in a controlled testing environment).

>>12575903
Hamburgers should not be associated with bad food.
Fast food, processed foods, food items that come in packages made in bulk processing lots to be quickly reheated and consumed are the worst "foods".
Make it at home from scratch is very easy and you are using fresh ingredients, freshly made, and better for you. No need to have a cheat day.
We do this at home and it beats all others, we have it regularly. Take me 10 mins max to prepare.

>>12575994
I think a bigger problem is that nobody defines what they're talking about by "unhealthy"
You could say that McDonalds food tends to be calorie dense and lacking in essential things like fiber which could certainly be considered unhealthy to certain people, such as fat fucks. But for a body builder or athlete McDonalds might be fine.

>>12575919
Alcoholism fucks with your appetite. I never want to eat after a bender for days. It takes half a week of weaning off before it's normal again. I had a double cheese burger and small fries today, tossed over half in the garbage. But then you get a craving and want to binge so you wind up over eating, say eating an entire Hungry Man meal or three slices of pizza and you wind up puking it up.

I have probably revealed more of my lifestyle than I would be comfortable with.

>>12575910
You aren't going to go to near death if you eat MickyD's every day for a month like the supersize me guy did. He did everything he could and more to make McDonald's look bad. Hell, they interviewed the Big Mac guy who eats literally nothing but big macs and he's fine. We'd have bigger problems than fat people if McDonald's was doing something significantly bad to health.

>>12576061
No one is supporting the guy and his commercial film.
However, he pointed out the dangers of a diet solely made up of processed foods of which a vast many people adhere to either by habit or circumstance.
We cannot ignore the fact that obesity is a modern epidemic and we are all affected by this disease and/or know of many who are afflicted.

>>12575737
i haven’t eaten a McDonalds burger since mid 1980s
quarter pounder w cheese
it was pretty good
now i sometimes get nuggets w my kids
1/2 the time they are cold and dry
fries are cold 1/2 hours the time
shake machine is broken 1/2 the time
wtf

>>12576089
What's it like to live in a poor ghetto with 5 kids? Do you yearn for a fast food joint staffed with white people? Do you miss your babies' daddys?

>>12575737
I cant speak for the US, but here in Canada you're nuts getting a McDicks burger over A&W. A&W crushes McDicks here in every way. It's a tad more expensive, but worth it. Granted, I dont eat fast food often, but A&W actually tastes like burger.

>>12576083
>However, he pointed out the dangers of a diet solely made up of processed foods of which a vast many people adhere to either by habit or circumstance.
first, this isn't McDonalds alone. the movie fixates entirely on 1 particular fast food joint and demonizes it. he doesn't talk about other junk food like candy bars, or other restaurants like BK, he just takes McDs alone.
second, eating SOLELY processed foods can indeed be dangerous, but who's that ignorant to do this anyway? pretty much everyone will tell you that you need balanced diet. McDs does not exactly claim to provide balanced meal plan, they're just here to make fast satiating food. you could as well eat only vegetable carbs and wonder why you "suddenly" get problems, then blame fruit companies.
third, his whole process is highly suspicious, like many pointed out already. there's already enough BS in nutrition science, one more questionable and biased """study""" doesn't help much.

>>12576150
I haven't seen an A&W in the states in years. And it was always mall food court booths. What, did they pack up and move to a country of less intense competition? Cause there are a ton of mid-tier burger joints that beat McD's for about a few bucks more. I need more information.

Now I kinda want a root beer float though.

>>12576050
Damn, hope I never get to that point. I eat like garbage the night after drinking, eat real light for a day or two (rarely vomit it up, just nothing appetizers me), then it’s back to normal.

>>12575742
proving all fast food burgers are garbage

>>12576195
Hmm, sounds like you're farther along than you think. Slow process anon, but let me tell you it suddenly hits like a brick. I'd give encouragement or tips but we're in this hell ride together.

>>12576165
Come clean, what's your relationship with McD?
remember, it's anonymous.

>>12576182
Who knows? But A&W is marketing hard in Canada and they have seriously good burgers for a good price. They're big on the vegan burger marketing now, which I'm not about, but I'll tell you right now that here in Canada a Teen or Mozza Burger crushes anything at McDonalds

>>12576279
I dislike it, but I hate when people demonize it. no one's forcing you to go there. no one's fooling you that it's healthy or balanced nutrition. it's just cheap mediocre food made for quick consumption. you know what you get.
if you choose to eat your whole life at a fucking drive-in restaurant, maybe you need to re-think your nutrition and don't blame the restaurant first.

>>12576105
lol no idea bro
i’m a white man and i live a n New England

>>12576288
I only had McD's in Canadia the one time. It was absolute shit and overpriced. I haven't been back since because they keep turning me away for a criminal record or bringing in drugs or some bullshit excuse like that. I assume beating McD's is not a high bar to jump. But sad to see A&W sold out to the snowbacks, we still have dairy queen.

>>12576327
>bro
>no punctuation
>lol

Suspicions are raised... bro.

>>12575737
>when did it all go wrong?
1960s.

there are so many superior burger chains to mcdonalds.

>shake shack
>five guys
>wendy's
>BK
>sonic
>krystal
>culver's

the only reason to go to mcdonalds is for dollar ice cream cones (the machines are always broken tho) or for their breakfast sandwiches and slightly funky but still serviceable coffee. and it's gotta be hot and black, none of that iced shit they are trying to pull off now.

>>12576349
you seem to be obsessed with negros

>>12575737
Come as you are, In your car
McChicken and a frosty
Three for free, three for free
Sweet and sour with my tendies

My tendiiiiieeeesuh
My tendieeeeeesuh

>>12575855
Truth. I ate Mc Chickys for lunch everyday for years and I was in awesome shape. When I started drinking every night to make the pain go away after a break up my mental and physical health plummeted. Beer bad. McChicken good.

>painting my house with my dad earlier today
>uncle calls and says he has genetic disease that's going to shorten his life and we might have it too
>tfw in front of my dad and say "Thank God!"

>>12576385
You seem obsessed with my obsession.

Checkmate libtard.

>>12575793
That's the opposite of fast

>>12575797
Yeah this is true for almost everything in life

>>12576395
Feel ya.

>>12576395
I love how alcohol is advertised and sold in society as the cool edgy fun thing to do, with no mention of how it's basically guaranteed to make you gain 30 pounds immediately

>>12575737
according to my old man back in the 70's big mac used to have patties as big as quarter pounders. and regular burgers were comparable to quarter pounders (they didn't have or advertise quarter pounders as a regular menu item back then)

>>12576428
no

>>12576418
Speaking as a former heavy drinker. They dont put that part in movies or TV or whatever. I gained 30 lbs rapidly. The good news is, I quit altogether for awhile and just NOT drinking makes it easier to lose it. Even moreso if you're lifting.

>>12575803
>>12575803
Based and McShilled.

>>12575737
>tfw live near the oldest mcdonald's that looks like that in Downey
>tfw went once and it was just a normal shitty mcdonald's that just looked different

>>12575737
Filet O' Fish didn't get a double version because they needed to explain what it is.

Do normies really order a burger, fries, AND a milkshake?

I'm asking because if I consumed all 3 items at once, I'm 100% guaranteed to have stomach pain and diarrhea. Probably because it's a huge amount of fat.

Like, I can eat 2 of those 3 items just fine. I normally get a burger and fries. Or a burger and milkshake. But all 3 is absolutely impossible without having intestinal problems.

Is this abnormal? Or is burger + fries + shake the "recommended" combo? How do people do it?

>>12577665
Soda is normal, upgrade to shake is a special sometimes treat. But there's something wrong your digestive system if it struggles like that. People will also have a sundae.

>>12575797
>Go to a McDonalds in the ghetto
>When I'm waiting for my food after ordering, a crackhead goes to the cashier and demands free food
>Another crackhead asks me to buy him a burger. I ignore him, he gets aggressive, I say no, he gets more aggressive.
>Another burnout customer pays for a combo meal with a collection of loose change that takes like 4 minutes for him to count... which he dumps all over the counter while doing so
>There's no ketchup dispenser, presumably because the crackheads will steal the ketchup
>I have to ask for ketchup at the front desk, and they only hand out a few at a time like real cheapos
>There's a dirty, torn-up sign by the cash register that looks like it was printed on a shitty inkjet printer on location saying that extra dipping sauces are $0.25 each

Never again. McD's? More like McDon't.

>>12577671
Cool, that makes me feel better knowing that a soda is really the default. I can easily handle that.

I eat a low fat diet most of the time. I'm sure that explains it. Same thing happens when I get a 3-piece combo at Popeyes. I can handle a 2 piece combo just fine.

Every time.

>>12577683
I would go see a doctor anon. That's not normal.

>>12575797
What's it like to eat white burgers bros

>>12576418
The fuck? I guess there's something seriously wrong with me.
>>12576471
I can drink around a handle a day (like 4000 fucking calories), and my weight doesn't fluctuate at all.
As soon as I taper down and quit, though- I gain like thirty fucking pounds.
I eat pretty alright, just a fucking lot when I'm sober. It's likely I'm trying to get that dopamine/serotonin rush elsewhere, but even after I've been quit for six months to a year I still eat like a fucking pregnant woman.

>>12576418
>cool edgy fun thing to do
...Because it kind of is?
You don't fucking do it all the time like once a week or biweekly. That's why its the edgy thing to do because it's fucking poison and people like getting high off of poison. The fuck you on about?

>>12577628
Fuck that's depressing.
You would think they'd do something special for that place, at least.

>>12577742
As someone who's a recovered drug addict... You're an alcoholic, dude. I'm glad you're staying sober now, but people who aren't addicts don't drink a handle a day. Also, just because you can go through periods of sobriety doesn't mean you're not an addict.

If you haven't come to terms with this yet, you will at some point. Good luck.

>>12577767
I'm at terms with it.
22 and I just don't want to be here anymore.
Thanks though, chief.

>>12575737
>cheeseburger 20 cents
>double cheeseburger 38 cents
Why the fuck wouldn't you just buy 2 cheeseburgers?

>>12575737
People actually enjoyed pickles, ketchup, and mustard back in the 50s.
Seriously it's true.

>>12576389
cringe

>>12575737
My dad used to work for McDonald's back in the 1980-90s, both as a regional manager later for the corporate level around the world. He said they changed for the worst in the 90s and 2000s. He thinks they are terrible today.

>>12577830
True, they all weren't spoiled little children like you.

>>12575737
>french fries cost as much as a burger

>>12575830
Super size me was so fucking dumb anyway
Of course if someone eats fucking 12k calories a day theyre going to gain weight even if they ate 12k calories worth of lettuce and tofu.

>>12577677
n*ggers ruin everything

>>12576083
>We cannot ignore the fact that obesity is a modern epidemic and we are all affected by this disease and/or know of many who are afflicted.
It's not the food it's the person. No one is forcing people to eat 3000 cals of big Macs every day. Fat people are fat because they have weak willpower or eat as a coping mechanism. There is no reason that fast food, and other calorie dense food, can't be a part of your daily diet. The agency of healthy or calorie appropriate eating is the onus of the consumer and not the restaurant.

>>12577742
do that for 5 or 6 years and you'll be the size of a house with a rotted out liver.

>>12578650
You are talking as if people are born naturally health conscious and/or adequately educated in nutrition and general wellbeing.
Unfortunately "...weak willpower or eat as a coping mechanism." is too fanciful an explanation for such a complex problem like the current obesity epidemic.
The US like many countries has plenty of problems which are unabled to be solved by quick and easy solutions.

>>12578650
sedentary lifestyle + work obligations that involve sitting for 8+ hours + using a car to get everywhere is really more the culprit than "weak will"

most people age 30+ in the USA simply don't get the exercise that humans in other countries/the past got, which makes you gain weight over your lifetime

I agree that mental/emotional problems can really be an issue, especially in younger people that are fat. Also a lot of kids get really discouraged at a young age by sports because they aren't good at them. Society treats exercise for kids as a prep/weeding out mechanism for athletes, not getting average schmucks to be healthy.

>>12579357
>Society treats exercise for kids as a prep/weeding out mechanism for athletes, not getting average schmucks to be healthy.
never thought of this but you're absolutely right, at least in the usa

ingredient creep, actual recognizable ingredients slowly being replaced by cheaper artificial alternatives, it happens at a barely perceptible rate but the difference over time is undeniable. not that original mcdonalds was amazing, I doubt it was, but you could probably tell what your food was made of.

>>12578966
>>12576083
>You are talking as if people are born naturally health conscious and/or adequately educated in nutrition and general wellbeing.
I don't know what you're saying, it's pretty much common knowledge and even children know that. I don't know what rock you have to live under to not know why "junk food" is called so, that veggies are good for you and that you should probably work out.
the common ways this happens is poor parenting, or just people letting themselves go and overindulging. both really are not McDs fault.
anyone with half a brain also knows that you have to burn as many calories as you take in. again, if you take some fatty who orders 7 big macs, wtf do you want McDs to do? refuse order? in US of A, in the year 2019 of our lord?
btw, the statistics on obesity in US aren't even that bad. they're skewed a bit by black population, where obesity is more prevalent. you know who isn't far behind US on current obesity rankings? Mexico and New Zealand. for some reason, no one calls these countries fat.

>>12576089
Based boomer. Even types like one.

>>12579607
is that really how it in US? t. non-American
here where I live exercise is considered a necessity, partly because of the old ways to prepare people for military

>>12579707
yes. In the US you're being evaluated for sports from the age of 4 or 5. if you don't fit into any kind of athletic program, they basically abandon you. It's really shitty. Even the so-called "recreational" leagues that children and college kids can play in are hyper competitive. If you suck at sports, you are pretty much treated as 2nd class and can go fuck yourself. Competing at youth sports is basically the centerpiece of most American education rather than actually learning anything practical or useful.

I think a ton of people get burned by this and never really learn how to take care of themselves, or learn to resent sports and assume that they can't be fit because of the bullshit that they went through as kids. I was like this until I started lifting and got into riding mountain bikes.

>>12579943
wow, never thought it'd be like this. I kinda took decent PE classes for granted in my country and assumed that's how it was in all countries. thanks, very educational and eye-opening. this explains a lot but it's sad at the same time. to think they cut corners on this… pretty absurd.

>>12575797
This applies to every fast food joint, I go to a Taco bell in an area a little whiter than mine and the food is always served hot and fresh!

>>12575835
I went to a Wendy's in South Carolina and it was fucking gross compared to what im used to in NY

>>12575797
If I go eat somewhere and any of the staff is non-white I turn 360 degrees and walk away.

>>12581132
I went to South Carolina and it was gross.

>>12581368
>360 degrees

>>12575737
McD's was great back in the day when all of its workers and cooks were young, white high school/college kids because they were smart enough to take care in their work and were only using the work as a job to make some money in their teens.
Then in the 1980's McDonald's starting advertising their "McJobs" program (basically putting literal unironic retards to work there).
Now their restaurants are staffed by adult spics who successfully out-competed actual retards and highschoolers for a temporary job that the bean-niggers want to make into a lifetime career that will support a family of 10.

>>12581403
youre new
that' ok

I unironically fucking love their cheeseburgers, I think it's because of the sauce.

>>12575797
Maybe try it again considering this is the circumstance. The one in japan is the only one I didn’t get sick from and just feel like a brick in my stomach.

>>12576182
Aren't the Canadian A&Ws run by a different company? I had heard they are way better than the chain in the United States. For my area, the best fast food burger is from Culvers.

>>12576050
try too lower it and drink a few light piss beer. i gave up my fav, 211 steel reserve. two weeks ago, i drank 4 24oz cans (not much).. but i drank them faster than average. it would usually take about 6 hours to drink them, i did it under 1 1/2. dumb, but i did it. my hangover lasted more than 3 days and i just wanted to cry in my work's bathroom. i got this neurological shock, not a regular hangover. i did't eat for a lot for 3 days (some forced crackers and peanut butter). sucked ass. i'm trying to quit (or at least have large amounts of time not drinking).. so i'm getting tea crazed and only sipping 3 12oz cans of natty a week (6 12oz cans since the last two weeks). i'm also enjoy THC edibles (microdosing for subtle buzz, not going deep).

>>12576182
Basically the management of the Canadian A&W bought the entire thing, so the Canadian one is completely independent. Then they pivoted towards higher quality, higher cost products and nostalgia pandering for old people. You go to one in Canada and it's styled like a 50's diner with the decor. The menu has the Burger Family and Chubby Chicken from A&W's hey day in the states. Not uncommon to see a gaggle of old men pull up in their collector cars and get breakfast from the A&W closest to where I work.

>>12575793
One of these opened up in my town, didn't even last 6 months. It had people come by because it was new, but it was shit tier quality compared to price.

>>12584084
its pretty much a meme restaurant. The whole story behind Shake Shack is that it's a Wall St funded blitzscale stock play. They put them in high foot traffic trendy areas (or at least they used to) in an attempt to get big volume sales, and try and open new locations as fast as they possibly can and pump out PR and social media crap to drive up the stock price. The company operates on big leverage and their physical locations are all leased at huge expense. Somebody tries to do one of these kind of things every couple of years (Chipotle being a big example). The singular goal is for the owners to meme this shit for long enough for them to liquidate their holdings and make a bundle, regardless if the place fails in the long run.

Even a glance at their stock data without even digging into a 10K shows how silly it is. Beta at 1.57 is absurd, and their P/E ratio is astronomically high. EPS is also terrible.

blogpost out

>>12584116
this guy invests

>>12584116
oh fuck
any more examples?

>>12576182
A&W shares a store with KFC in the SF/Bay area think both are owned by YUM! brands

>>12584829
I don't have historical data but around a decade ago they did the same thing with Krispy Kreme. It blew up then crashed and burned and got taken private.

In general at any given point in time there are a handful of stocks on the broader market that do this kind of shit. The TV guys get paid to meme the shit out of them, they go way up, and their numbers are clearly too wack for anyone that isn't just plain gambling. The early money and the promoters sell off as it goes up, then the hype train stops and it goes back down.

>>12584915
ok thanks for explaining
thought krispy kreme was legit though

>>12575737
Shitty since always

>>12581371
fuck you

>>12575737
McDonalds is poor people food.

>>12581371
It's flat, swampy and full of diseased whitetrash inbreds and blacks if that's what you mean.

>>12576349
I'd you really think there are no dumbass white people out there it might be because you're one of them

>>12575737
no they were good like 20 years ago desu

>>12575737
Back then there was no concept of fast food so even though it was super simple it was cheap and could be had very quickly, pairing well with the new highway system being built across all of America and the changing lifestyle needs of the people commuting on them.